Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[EihTooms]

Yes I am referring to Brazil! The answer to your question is it depends on where you go and what your standards are ( if you know what I mean), and also how adamant one is about BB.

For example, in Rio, at the low end, there are places like the Mosaic Night Club and Villa Mimosa where bareback anything is readily available. Going there is very interesting and anyone visiting RJ should check the place out at least once although it is raw and not for everybody. LOL. Most of the girls are black or mixed race and sometimes you can find a diamond in the rough, a young pretty girl just breaking into the biz. Going a little upscale from there are the prive's (RJ's version of BKK oilies) where BBBJCIM is pretty much the default and BBFS is negotiable for an added fee or tip. The girls here are black, white, and every shade in between. The next venue up the ladder are the Termas, my favorite venue in RJ, which kind of resemble Pattaya GQ's although not as naughty ie they are small bordellos with a bar, girls, and featuring in-house service. BB is negotiable for extra fee between you and the girl although there is no guarantee, but before going upstairs, most customers indulge in hands on auditions with a girl or girls and that is when you can ask for whatever you want.

Sao Paulo is more upscale than RJ and more expensive. At the less expensive end (not the bottom) they havE.

Yours and Jimmy Boy 99's responses might be the most positive BBFSCIP in Brazil posts I've read. Thanks. I'll bookmark this for any future trip there. Although I hope my "luck" in getting it with my chosen ladies in those Brazilian venues is quite a bit better than it is with the ladies whose attractiveness and pretend great chemistry with me convinces me to take them for it in Thai massage and happy ending shops as referenced. LOL.

[SubCmdr]

What is the purpose of ISG?

According to certain individuals subjects that are mostly irrelevant to the actual purpose of ISG are his main focus. It shows from his posting history.

It could be information about which hotels to book. It could be information about food and beverage options in a given destination. It could be information regarding visa issues. It could be information about the political situation in our country or in a given P4P destination.

Personally, I disagree. I am not interested in the personal politics of individuals posting about Brazil in the Thailand Threads. I don't care what hotels they stay at or where they fucking eat when they are there. I don't give a fuck about visa issues. There are professionals to assist with that or you can do the research by contacting the Embassy of Brazil directly.

He then goes on further to say that a trip report is about:

"reports about where our dicks have been lately. " Not even, "How to help some posters get laid or tell them where to stick their dick. " However, one could post that info if one wished.

Personally, I strongly disagree with the statement above. I come to ISG to find out: Where the prostitutes at? How much do they cost? What do they do for a International Trick?

Example

Yes I am referring to Brazil! The answer to your question is it depends on where you go and what your standards are ( if you know what I mean), and also how adamant one is about BB.

Although I find the OP's views on political issues and his personal views on me to be useless. The post he made about Brazil in the Thailand Threads is useful and directly related to the purpose of ISG.

Tell me your thoughts about the issue.

[Houston Player]

100 percent true! But one needs to remember that some people are very photogenic which helps. Some "stars" maybe not so much. Then there are all of the filters that can be used. I'll repost some photos here for example. Some are Thai; some Khmer. All civilians. None pro's; All are slender. I've known all in person for many years. I would rate #3 a solid "8". If she had see cups, would be a 9.5. Yes, subjective. That said, I'd be interested in knowing how others might rate each chick.

Sam.

I normally don't comment on another man's choices of women but since you asked. I would rate girl #2 as the best looking and a 6 or 6. 5. The others are all 5's to my taste.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

I have never been there to be certain it is the destination you are talking about but my guess is Brazil, yes?

If so, the problem there is I have read online and heard from fellow punters that Brazilian women are adamant about requiring their partner to wear a condom for fucking and are not all that keen to provide a BBBJCIM.

And if that is true then, for me, Brazil would be a total waste of time and money as a mongering destination.

Have you had a dramatically different experience than I have read and heard? If Brazil is the place you're talking about, that is.

Granted, I enjoy DATY. But I can't see flying all the way to another country just to engage in the one and only actual skin-on-skin sexual activity a No to BBFSCIP and No to BBBJCIM lady rarely says No to. And I'm not into paying money to get a HandJob even if it's right here in Thailand.

In my experience at the prives, 100 real extra has often been sufficient to get BBFS. Some would do it for only 50 real extra.

[HorseTrader]

....Under the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996, prostitution is technically illegal!...

62 year old Ralph, an expat from Canada, meets 47 year old Nuch, a Thai citizen, while riding on BTS. They decided to go to dinner and they have a great time. Ralph invites Nuch to his condo to show off his most recent etchings of Wat Arun. She is impressed and things become romantic. They go to bed together, but just before sex, Nuch wants 2000 baht to continue. Ralph gives her the 2000 and they have sex.

Has something "technically illegal" happened? If so, please quote the section of the code that was violated.

[Axel Heyst]

I have never been there to be certain it is the destination you are talking about but my guess is Brazil, yes?

If so, the problem there is I have read online and heard from fellow punters that Brazilian women are adamant about requiring their partner to wear a condom for fucking and are not all that keen to provide a BBBJCIM.

And if that is true then, for me, Brazil would be a total waste of time and money as a mongering destination.

Have you had a dramatically different experience than I have read and heard? If Brazil is the place you're talking about, that is.

Granted, I enjoy DATY. But I can't see flying all the way to another country just to engage in the one and only actual skin-on-skin sexual activity a No to BBFSCIP and No to BBBJCIM lady rarely says No to. And I'm not into paying money to get a HandJob even if it's right here in Thailand.

Yes I am referring to Brazil! The answer to your question is it depends on where you go and what your standards are ( if you know what I mean), and also how adamant one is about BB.

For example, in Rio, at the low end, there are places like the Mosaic Night Club and Villa Mimosa where bareback anything is readily available. Going there is very interesting and anyone visiting RJ should check the place out at least once although it is raw and not for everybody. LOL. Most of the girls are black or mixed race and sometimes you can find a diamond in the rough, a young pretty girl just breaking into the biz. Going a little upscale from there are the prive's (RJ's version of BKK oilies) where BBBJCIM is pretty much the default and BBFS is negotiable for an added fee or tip. The girls here are black, white, and every shade in between. The next venue up the ladder are the Termas, my favorite venue in RJ, which kind of resemble Pattaya GQ's although not as naughty ie they are small bordellos with a bar, girls, and featuring in-house service. BB is negotiable for extra fee between you and the girl although there is no guarantee, but before going upstairs, most customers indulge in hands on auditions with a girl or girls and that is when you can ask for whatever you want.

Sao Paulo is more upscale than RJ and more expensive. At the less expensive end (not the bottom) they have clinicas which are like casas in Singapore which are like oilies in BKK. What you get in the bedroom is between you and the girl with BBBJ's being the default, and most girls will swallow (not guaranteed) for a little bit extra. But I must add that the girls really know how to give great BJ's and great DFK and they aim to please. Moving to the top of the pyramid are the boates (night clubs) which are great especially Scandallo which is a world class bordello (read the forum for more info) and Casuara, a more everyman's kind of place. Boate girls are independent contractors so guys need to negotiate for extra stuff like BBFS, BBBJCIM, or Anal if you want to make sure it will be on the menu. Me, I don't care about the specifics because I like the spontaneity and I am happy to live with the consequences which means CFS most (75%) of the time. Sometimes however, like the last 4 times I was in Scandallo, I got lucky and I received BBFS without mentioning it beforehand. Like I said, other times I get CFS, but I can't recall ever having a "bad session" there in 5 years! In addition and this is important to the discussion, my BBFS percentages go way up to 90% with girls I hit it off with and choose to see again. Anyway, I am talking about Sao Paulo boates where a majority of the girls are white or light shade mixed race, but there are still plenty of very attractive black girls, mixed-race dark-skinned girls, indigenous girls, mixed indigenous girls, and a few Japanese Brazilian girls. It is a smorgasbord of pussy. The mix is amazing! And they come in all shapes and sizes!

So, it's up to the individual punter to decide if this sounds like something worth checking out or not. A round-trip flight from BKK to GRU is 24 hours and around $1000 US for coach, which is a pretty big commitment. I would recommend leaving LOS during high season which corresponds to summer in SP & RJ and plan to stay at least a month to get into things properly. Think of SP as a BKK big city and RJ as a Pattaya resort city.

And that sums it up for me. My attraction to Brazil is for the looks, enthusiasm and sexual drive of Brazilian girls and it keeps bringing me back there. I think it is the best playground in world although LOS has its virtues. So after long absence, I am finally going to return to BKK and Pat with a side trip to Jakarta and I am exciting about that. More than I thought I would be. I have scheduled my upcoming trip so I will be spending my 1st 43 nights in SP before I fly direct from GRU into BKK, so I will not be arriving all horny and stupid, but rather I will be in good mongering form physically and mentally when I arrive. And I will see what happens.

A. H.

[SubCmdr]

My only experiences with prostitutes from the African Continent has been here in Pattaya, Thailand. I sourced them from Thai Friendly. My experiences have been excellent!

In the entire history of ISG no one has ever produced a legal opinion from a member of the bar in Thailand that says prostitution is legal in Thailand.

[EihTooms]

African SW's in Bangkok are at best a big waste of time, at worst trouble in the room. If you seek great black girls combing looks, attitude, and sexual performance; there is only one place to go and you know where I am talking about and it ain't Africa.

I have never been there to be certain it is the destination you are talking about but my guess is Brazil, yes?

If so, the problem there is I have read online and heard from fellow punters that Brazilian women are adamant about requiring their partner to wear a condom for fucking and are not all that keen to provide a BBBJCIM.

And if that is true then, for me, Brazil would be a total waste of time and money as a mongering destination.

Have you had a dramatically different experience than I have read and heard? If Brazil is the place you're talking about, that is.

Granted, I enjoy DATY. But I can't see flying all the way to another country just to engage in the one and only actual skin-on-skin sexual activity a No to BBFSCIP and No to BBBJCIM lady rarely says No to. And I'm not into paying money to get a HandJob even if it's right here in Thailand.

[Sam Sanuk]

It might help if you post a pic of what you are looking for...After that post, I realized that "best of the best" means very different things to different people. AR.

100 percent true! But one needs to remember that some people are very photogenic which helps. Some "stars" maybe not so much. Then there are all of the filters that can be used. I'll repost some photos here for example. Some are Thai; some Khmer. All civilians. None pro's; All are slender. I've known all in person for many years. I would rate #3 a solid "8". If she had see cups, would be a 9.5. Yes, subjective. That said, I'd be interested in knowing how others might rate each chick.

Sam.

[Axel Heyst]

There is a whole new crew of them in Bangkok now and several are good lookers. However, the pattern with the new crew has been that when I vet the good looking ones who reach out for me, won't let go and promise me the best time, everything I want blah blah blah, their immediate response is No to BBFSCIP and No to BBBJCIM. So that's the end of it and I move on. But at least they can hear my questions, can't make the excuse that they didn't hear or understand them over loud bar or nightclub music and so on. That saves me from wasting time, money and enthusiasm for having Real Sex or get a Real Blowjob if its going to be No in the room for the things I want and would pay money for.

Wish I had something better to report about where my dick has been lately with regard to African freelancers in Bangkok but it just hasn't happened lately due to their disinterest in earning 2,000 - 3,000 baht for having Real Sex with me or giving me a Real Blowjob. Oh well.

African SW's in Bangkok are at best a big waste of time, at worst trouble in the room. If you seek great black girls combing looks, attitude, and sexual performance; there is only one place to go and you know where I am talking about and it ain't Africa.

[SubCmdr]

Congratulations on finally making a post (a most excellent one (almost and good as mine) if I may say so myself) that goes to the main purpose / core purpose of ISG regarding sharing information on having sex with girls in Thailand.

[EihTooms]

I have done the research on this subject to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women, as is the Admin's stated purpose of this Forum, in this case to point out that: Prostitution is not legal in Thailand.

But as we can see there are certain ISG members who, for whatever bizarre personal reason, are afraid that this knowledge about the illegality of prostitution will prevent 18 year old girls and older who might read this site (even through it is written in English and most girls enter the entertainment industry speaking very little English) from becoming prostitutes.

Whoever you were quoting obviously agrees with me, The Thai Penal Code and the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996 regarding the difference between what consenting adults do discreetly and privately vs prostitution as an "industry" and what they are calling "Facilitation".

But they still fell into that "technically illegal" nonsense. Since they are so clear about there being no crime and no law forbidding the mere exchange of money for sex or sex for money between consenting adults, which IS prostitution, where and why do they come up with this "technically illegal" nonsense?

No it isn't. Not technically, factually, spiritually, vaguely or any other way. "Sorry. Sir, we'll have to "technically" arrest you and the lady in your room for "technically" breaking a "technical" law" against something that is "technically illegal" even though no Thai law against it exists anywhere, there is no penalty for it and nobody else has ever been arrested for it until this moment. "Technically. " Lolol.

Nonsense.

That word "technically" must be a meaningless safety word the media must use so as not to offend anyone in Thai authority.

Otherwise, who cares what Benoit & Partners and Thailawonline has to say about it? They are private businesses looking to attract customers and clicks. Why not just quote from The Thai Penal Code and The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996 the sentences that make merely exchanging money for sex or sex for money illegal, "technically" or otherwise, in Thailand and what the penalty is for it? There is no more complex legalese in those Benoit / Thailaw blah blah blah than in the Code and Act.

BTW, aren't you disturbed that the only term they used and quoted by you was "consenting adults" rather than putting a specific age to it? Why, it is possible whoever reads those sites might not know what age constitutes an adult in this regard in Thailand. However, The Thai Penal Code and The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996 are both truly obsessed with the age of 18. They just can't get enough of it. Really. They are constantly citing that specific age as the starting point from which no law is written or penalty levied for a slew of prostitution-related crimes. Yet, the sources you quoted from seem to be fine and dandy with everyone reading it just making up any age they want "adult" to mean.

So disturbing. I'm glad I stick to the age and above cited dozens of times in the Code and the Act.

[SubCmdr]

It might help if you post a pic of what you are looking for. There was a guy on another forum going on and on about how his standards were so high. "9's and 10's only for me" and money doesn't matter type guy. So the members sent him to PinUp, a gogo that they just couldn't stop lauding as having the best of the best in Pattaya. In the end, the guy came back that he had a good time and found an exceptional girl. Spent 8 or 9 thousand bhat all-in to get her for short time. But as details emerged, it turned out she was a mid-20's single mom with a drinking problem (ie she couldn't do her thing well unless she had a half dozen drinks in her). Later he posted a pic of the girl and IMHO she was underwhelming. After that post, I realized that "best of the best" means very different things to different people. AR.

ManLaw 101: No real man ought to be telling another grown man how to spend his hard earned money or who to fuck!.

According to your own words in other posts (I will quote them for you if you are one of the posters who write and forget what they wrote) no one should be judging what someone pays. So how do you justify judging the appearance of a girl that another man actually fucked and you did not.

Check Ball!

[EihTooms]

It is very important to know the back ground of the individuals posting. There are BIG differences in age, cultural background, socioeconomic status (SES), personal preferences. Those factors may cause International Tricks to have very different perceptions of sights, sounds and venues on the ground than you do.

Example

Nyezhov and EihTooms are both senior members. Fans of Bangkok, old as fuck, white, self reported to be rich, from the Dis United States of America and both have accused me of being a racist without quoting a single post that I have made that backs up their assertions..

Regarding the "looks, aroma and dress" of the African freelancers generally to be found up and down Soi 4, I have posted that some of them are quite fine looking, often much better bodies than their Thai counterparts. I have also posted that I have personally taken and experienced 4-5 African freelancers in Bangkok over the years. The first one I met on Tinder and fully vetted for DFK, BBBJ and then BBFSCIP online before we met. She was great, everything went smoothly, exactly as I wanted. She had a great body, lovely face, early 20's, everything just fine. Spoke to her girlfriend on the phone with that "clicking" language that I'd never heard anyone speak before. Fascinating. 2,500 baht, as agreed upon. That was about 7 years ago, not sure. She was set to return to Africa the following week so I did not repeat.

Unfortunately, none of the subsequent 3-4 of them I met, negotiated with and took worked out as well or was worth the time, money and hassle. They enthusiastically grabbed me on the street, assured me they wanted to give me the best time, everything I want, and the 3-4 good looking ones that I did vet for the same hobby goals mentioned above turned out to be total scammers, all new rules in the room, No to either of the two finishes I wanted despite their say Yes on the street. I sent them out with nothing unless they had at least gotten naked and provided a little BBBJ foreplay before the no play. Then maybe 200 baht. The last one of those would have been a few years ago though.

There is a whole new crew of them in Bangkok now and several are good lookers. However, the pattern with the new crew has been that when I vet the good looking ones who reach out for me, won't let go and promise me the best time, everything I want blah blah blah, their immediate response is No to BBFSCIP and No to BBBJCIM. So that's the end of it and I move on. But at least they can hear my questions, can't make the excuse that they didn't hear or understand them over loud bar or nightclub music and so on. That saves me from wasting time, money and enthusiasm for having Real Sex or get a Real Blowjob if its going to be No in the room for the things I want and would pay money for.

Thanks for asking. Wish I had something better to report about where my dick has been lately with regard to African freelancers in Bangkok but it just hasn't happened lately due to their disinterest in earning 2,000 - 3,000 baht for having Real Sex with me or giving me a Real Blowjob. Oh well.

[SubCmdr]

I have done the research on this subject to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women, as is the Admin's stated purpose of this Forum, in this case to point out that: Prostitution is not legal in Thailand.

But as we can see there are certain ISG members who, for whatever bizarre personal reason, are afraid that this knowledge about the illegality of prostitution will prevent 18 year old girls and older who might read this site (even through it is written in English and most girls enter the entertainment industry speaking very little English) from becoming prostitutes.

Prostitution is not legal in Thailand, though the specific act of consensual sex work between adults exists in a complex legal gray area.

Under the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996, prostitution is technically illegal, and the government has not yet passed the 2023 draft law that proposed decriminalizing and regulating the industry for adults over 20.

However, enforcement distinguishes between public nuisance and private activity:

Private Consensual Acts: The mere exchange of sexual services for money between consenting adults is not a standalone criminal offense under the 1996 Act; the law primarily targets public solicitation, procuring, and operating brothels.

Public Solicitation: Since October 2023, openly soliciting in public is no longer a criminal offense but carries a civil penalty of up to 1,000 baht. (one short time on Beach Road).

Facilitation: Running a prostitution establishment, pimping, or involving minors remains a serious criminal offense with heavy prison sentences and fines.

Consequently, while sex workers and clients are rarely prosecuted for private transactions, the industry remains officially illegal and unregulated, with reform efforts currently stalled.

Under Thai law, the sale or purchase of sexual services remains unlawful, and criminal liability may arise for a broad range of associated conduct. These legal rules apply not only to Thai nationals, but also to foreign nationals residing in or visiting the Kingdom, and to any enterprise that may be directly or indirectly linked to prohibited activity.

https://benoit-partners.com/thailand-prostitution-law/

Prostitution is illegal in Thailand on paper, but widely tolerated in practice. Laws target public solicitation and trafficking, while private consensual sex work often goes unpunished.

https://www.thailawonline.com/prosti...s-in-thailand/

In the history of ISG no one has produced a single legal opinion from a member of the bar in Thailand that says: Prostitution is legal in Thailand!!