Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[EihTooms]

After all of these years, I learn that my evasive maneuvers and tactics have been nothing more than "stupid shit"; I guess it shows that you're never to old to learn something new. 555+++..

Isn't it a relief to finally notice that the reason no Thai police officer has ever arrested any consenting adult age 18 or older of either gender for merely discussing and agreeing to exchange sex for money or money for sex and then convening to private quarters to fulfill that agreement whether the person-to-person agreement was made in a gogo bar, beer bar, massage shop, hotel lobby, temple, bowling alley, nightclub, shopping mall, street corner, bts station, mrt station, train car or anywhere else in Thailand or even on ThaiFriendly is because there is absolutely no Thai Law in any legally enforceable document that cites it as illegal or a crime or punishable by any fine or imprisonment whatsoever?

Really! It has not been because you run Serpentine from place to place with your P4 P lady of choice, not because you are so street-smart about what to say and what not to say in conversation on ThaiFriendly, not because you brilliantly know all the ropes about how to maneuver the mean streets of crime and punishment in Bangkok, Pattaya, Jomtien Beach, Phuket and so on.

Nope.

It is simply because Thailand and Thai Law doesn't give a shit about the legal definition of "prostitution" or "solicitation for prostitution" in Kansas or any other Podunk country or town. They only care about their own legal definition for those behaviors. Thai police are not even looking at you or your P4 P lady with suspicion that you might have broken a Thai law on those issues unless you have done it within the strict and narrow definition of therms as anyone can see in plain language in the text of those documents.

Of course, every Thai police officer knows exactly what you and your P4 P lady probably discussed and agreed to do inside those gogo bars, beer bars, nightclubs, bowling alleys and son on before you emerged from those locations to stroll calmly and without incident to your hotel or apartment to have sex in exchange for money. And even if you retreated to private quarters to do that within that bowling alley or whatever. But they also know your doing that might have broken the law in your Podunk country but does not break a law in Thailand unless that venue, hotel lobby, shopping mall etc has a sign or some other means to overtly and shamelessly declare it to be a Prostitution in a promiscuous manner Establishment.

Well, I suppose you might be taking a risk of arrest, fine and imprisonment in Thailand or at least selectively enforced arrest and interrogation if there is something about your demeanor that strongly suggests you are a deadbeat living off the earned income of your P4 P lady. Thailand and Thai Law are adamant about enforcing the law and punishing anyone at least 16 years old for the crime of having their prostitutes spend so much as a baht of the money they legally earned by fucking and sucking in exchange for money on you, your food, drink, bowling and so on.

Try not to get caught admitting such a thing on, you know, ISG or or any other place.

[Sam Sanuk]

Anyone here getting laid?

Or are you too worried about the police?

Jai yen yen. High season is nearly upon us. Reports should be flowing in soon. Assuming that prostitution will be legalized.

Sam.

[SubCmdr]

So in other words, you have nothing dick worshiper. LOL. Thanks for studying my posts, you might learn something LOL.

You are welcome. Same Same you as you manage to reply to nearly every post I make. I see you have already responded to my post about inflation in the General Reports thread.

When are you going to actual visit Thailand and post something that is currently useful (as opposed to just talking about your glory days visiting Thailand)?

Check Ball!

[SubCmdr]

In the history of ISG no one has ever produced a legal opinion that says prostitution is legal in Thailand?

Anyone here getting laid?

Are you actually reading RANTS for fuck reports?

The Senior Member making the most noise about prostitution being legal in Thailand says he does not file fuck reports. What he does is walks around Bangkok making observations, watches YouTube and talks shit to other Senior Members who are actually filing boots on the ground reports about venues in Bangkok and Thailand. Click on my posting history and you can answer your own question at least about me.

BTW, reports that don't list where you are sourcing your prostitutes, the services your prostitute provided and the price you paid your prostitute are useless. You will find many of those useless reports in the Thailand Lounge and Chat that is just ego chest beating and grandstanding!

are you too worried about the police?

Are you actually asking this as a serious question?

There is no enforcement crackdown like is going on with the nominees. But those laws were on the books for 20 years. International Tricks only need to read the law and operate with their eyes wide open in Thailand.

[SubCmdr]

I've noticed a correlation between the biggest posters of male bovine excrement and lack of posts related to the purpose of ISG.

The question is: why aren't they fucking?

[SubCmdr]

After all of these years, I learn that my evasive maneuvers and tactics have been nothing more than "stupid shit"; I guess it shows that you're never to old to learn something new. 555+++..

After all these years you still don't even have 500 posts to your name.

ROTFLMAO!

[SubCmdr]

The laws in Thailand are selectively enforced. A plain language review of the law would find Soi 6 in violation of Section 6 and Section 5. The operations on that Soi fit the definition of a prostitution establishment. Anyone who has actually been to Soi 6 in the past or present would understand this using their own eyes, both to observe the activities in the street and venues and by reading the law with their own eyes without paying attention to those who are unqualified to provide a legal opinion trying to tell his International Tricks how to interpret the law.

Period. Full Stop!

[EihTooms]

As we all now know, Thailand and Thai Law doesn't give a shit about anybody else's legal definition of "Prostitution" for legal purposes except their own, which, according to the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996, is when it is done "in a promiscuous manner" and in no other manner.

And as we all now know, Thailand and Thai Law doesn't give a shit about anybody else's legal definition of "solicitation for prostitution" for legal purposes except their own, which, according to that same Act, is when it is done "on a street, in a public place, or any other place and such act is overtly and shamelessly committed or causes nuisance to the public" and no other way.

Anyone with minimal reading and comprehension skills can read and comprehend those literal and plain language definitions in the Act, without a hint of "legalese" or specialized grammar applied to them, on several of my previous posts, several of fellow ISG member SubCmdr's posts and certainly by reading the entire texts of each at links provided by him and me including right here in this post of mine. See links below.

Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996

https://mekongmigration.org/labourla...Act%201996.pdf

Thai Penal Code, in English.
See Title IX, Offences Relating to Sexuality

https://www.samuiforsale.com/law-tex...enal-code.html

An interesting observation is that only in the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996 is the term "Prostitution" even mentioned. And there it is immediately defined in plain language for Thai legal purposes in the way I mentioned above and as you can easily read in plain language in the link above or in several of my and SubCmdr's other posts and quotes of it.

And as I read Title IX of the Thai Penal Code, Offences Related to Sexuality, in its entirety, I see no mention of the word "prostitution" at all. Nor is there a mention of any manner of exchanging sex for money or money for sex with anyone being a crime.

The authors of the Thai Penal Code have apparently left that topic entirely to the above mentioned Act of 1996, which only cites an extremely narrow definition of one or two prostitution-related activities and only if done in a particularly extreme manner for it to be illegal. Otherwise, the authors of the Thai Penal Code have no legal or criminal opinion whatsoever about anyone being paid money for providing sex or providing sex for money, neither for soliciting for it, shouting it out from the rooftops openly and shamelessly, whispering it person-to-person in a bar, a massage shop, on the street or anywhere in any manner. Nothing.

Thailand and Thai Law is that disinterested in busting consenting adults on either side of the deal for discussing and agreeing to exchange sex for money or money for sex and retreating to private quarters to fulfill that agreement.

Yep, there is indeed no need for you to run Serpentine down the street with your P4 P lady of choice attempting to dodge bullets or threats of arrest by the Thai police going in or out of any bar, massage shop, Dunkin' Donuts bakery or whatever unless you are wearing that sandwich board sign with the neon lights stating your intentions to pay money for sex, difficult to run Serpentine wearing that anyway, or she looks particularly uncomfortable, as though she has been forced into being with you.

Unless I missed it. And I am always open to someone else reading it and pointing out where such a hidden treasure can be found in the Thai Penal Code.

There is, however, a Section 286 in the Thai Penal Code where the term "prostitute" appears! But that Section is all about busting deadbeats over age 16 who are living off the income of a prostitute when they are not the ones doing the fucking and sucking for money. See, unlike most of our Podunk countries, Thailand and Thai Law are very protective of prostitutes and the income they earn and deserve to keep from doing that job.

To be sure, there are many offences related to sexuality cited as crimes in the Code; forcing someone to have sex, procuring someone to have sex with another person, threatening them with bodily harm unless they have sex with you, inflicting bodily harm, etc.

But arranging and engaging in the exchange of money for sex or sex for money among consenting adults doing so of their own free will and in any manner isn't one of them.

[Explorer8939]

Anyone here getting laid?

Or are you too worried about the police?

[Nyezhov]

Readers who are interested simply need to click on the view original post link for the post below.

Posted as requested for the senior member so senior he forgets what he posts on ISG!

Check Ball!

So in other words, you have nothing dick worshiper. LOL.

Thanks for studying my posts, you might learn something LOL.

[Sam Sanuk]

Dude, when you leave a Soi 6 bar or any Thai massage shop with a favorite P4 P lady, the two of you really don't need to run to your room in an S pattern, zig-zaging down the Soi shouting "Serpentine! Serpentine!" in order to avoid shots fired by Thai police hot on the trail of any hookers and their customers who have not violated any Thai law to be found in any legally enforceable document.

After all of these years, I learn that my evasive maneuvers and tactics have been nothing more than "stupid shit"; I guess it shows that you're never to old to learn something new. 555+++.

Sam.

[EihTooms]

So a certain member of a certain forum who is not a Thai Citizen nor a member of the bar in Thailand has chosen to rewrite the laws of Thailand (translated into English) according to him in order to proffer his own interpretation for others, instead of allowing them to read in interpret the law for themselves. So, in order to correct the consistent mis-information provided by this particular member I am suggesting that those interested read the law as it is written.

International Tricks from around the world can read the law for themselves. No interpretation is needed from a certain member of this forum who his neither a Thai Citizen or member of the bar in Thailand.

Period. Full Stop!

In the case of the authors of the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution in a promiscuous manner Act of 1996 and their literal and plain language legal definition of the term "Prostitution" for Thailand's legal purposes as well as their literal and plain language legal definition of the term "solicitation for prostitution in a promiscuous manner, in an obvious manner, on a street, in a public place, committed overtly and shamelessly or causes a nuisance to the public" for Thailand's legal purposes, as they took great pains to define in plain language in their very early reference to both in the text of their Act and fully expected if not demanded those literal and plain language definitions of those legal terms to be carried forward to each and every subsequent reference to those legally defined terms in their Act, they at no point announced in the text of the Act that from this moment forward the reader can now stop applying the authors' literal and plain language legal definition of them and start applying the reader's own utterly irrelevant Podunk country's definition of those terms to them.

Nobody needs to be a Thai citizen or Thai bar attorney to read and comprehend the authors' literal and plain language legal definition of the terms they expect the reader to carry forward to each and every subsequent reference to those terms in their Act. That's why they included those literal and plain language definitions of them early in the Act.

Please see my previous Reader's Aid for Sections 4, 5, 6 and 7 of the Act post for further clarification and assistance in grasping the concept.

Thailand and Thai Law doesn't give a shit about your Podunk country's legal definition of Prositution and Solicitation for Prostitution, did not establish their laws regarding Prostitution and Solicitation for Prostitution according to your Podunk country's legal definition of them and instead did so according to their own legal definition of them, which is found literally and in plain language right there in the text of the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution in a promiscuous manner Act

[SubCmdr]

So a certain member of a certain forum who is not a Thai Citizen nor a member of the bar in Thailand has chosen to rewrite the laws of Thailand (translated into English) according to him in order to proffer his own interpretation for others, instead of allowing them to read in interpret the law for themselves. So, in order to correct the consistent mis-information provided by this particular member I am suggesting that those interested read the law as it is written.

What does the law actually say?

Section 4 In this Act:
Prostitution means the acceptance of sexual intercourse, the acceptance of any
other act, or the commission of any other act for sexual gratification of another person in a
promiscuous manner for remuneration or any other benefit, irrespective of whether the person
who accepts such act and the person who commits such act are of the same or opposite sex;

Prostitution Establishment means the place or premises arranged for prostitution or
allowed for prostitution, and shall include the place used for making contact or procuring
another person for prostitution;

Section 5
Whoever, for the purpose of prostitution, offers, solicits, introduces
oneself to, follows, or importunes another person on a street, in a public place, or any other
place and such act is overtly and shamelessly committed or causes nuisance to the public,
shall be punished with a fine not exceeding one thousand baht.

Section 6
Whoever congregates with another person in a prostitution
establishment for the benefit of prostitution of that person or of another person shall be
punished with imprisonment not exceeding one month, or a fine not exceeding one thousand
baht, or both.

If the offence under the first paragraph is committed because of being forced or under
an influence unable to avoid or resist, the offender is not guilty.

Section 7
Whoever advertises or agrees to advertise, induces, or introduces with
documents or printed material, or acts by any other means to distribute information to the
public in an obvious manner of solicitation or communication for prostitution of that person
or of any other person, shall be punished with imprisonment of six months to two years, or a
fine of ten thousand to forty thousand baht, or both.

https://mekongmigration.org/labourlaw/images/labourlaw/pdf/thailand/49%20Prostitution%20Prevention%20and%20Suppression%20Act%201996.pdf

International Tricks from around the world can read the law for themselves. No interpretation is needed from a certain member of this forum who his neither a Thai Citizen or member of the bar in Thailand.

Period. Full Stop!

[SubCmdr]

Post the long history of ladyboy rants then boy LOL.

Readers who are interested simply need to click on the view original post link for the post below.

ISG Brothers, I invite you to goto the ISG Search Function. Advanced Search; Thailand Threads; Keyword: Ladyboy; User Name: Nyezhov.

The search will take 0.66 sections and will pull up 35 posts where Nyezhov has mentioned (or responded to a post that mentioned) Ladyboys from 2019 until present.

I am not a Ladyboy. I have a Big Black Dick. He clearly does not like people of color (very easy to pick that up in his posts). So, I do not understand his nearly 1 year obsession with me that seems to be continuing and intensifying.

The Defense Rests!

Posted as requested for the senior member so senior he forgets what he posts on ISG!

Check Ball!

[EihTooms]

There seems to be some confusion and therefore much disinformation repeated about Thai Law regarding prostitution, prostitution establishments and solicitation for prostitution in Thailand.

Perhaps this will help to clear it up for those who apparently cannot read and comprehend the plain language legal definition of the terms as they apply to Thai Law and then carry those legal definitions forward to every subsequent reference to those terms.

First, let's review the actual, literal, plain language legal definition of "prostitution" that the authors of the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996 want its readers, the police, the Justice Department and everyone else in the World to think of each and every time that word appears in each and every subsequent Section of the Act. They do not want you to think of your Podunk country's accepted legal definition of it or Mirriam-Webster's definition of it for Thailand's legal purposes. They only want you to think of their plain language legal definition of it.

And here it is:

The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996

https://mekongmigration.org/labourla...Act%201996.pdf

Section 4
In this Act:

"Prostitution" means the acceptance of sexual intercourse, the acceptance of any other act, or the commission of any other act for sexual gratification of another person in a promiscuous manner for remuneration or any other benefit, irrespective of whether the person who accepts such act and the person who commits such act are of the same or opposite sex;

Ok. Now that we've got that firmly embedded in our brain, here is the way the authors of that Act would have written every subsequent reference to the word "prostitition" in their Act if they had thought in a million years that certain members of a Forum whose members are supposedly interested in having sex with women were going to totally disregard and disrespect the authors' plain language legal defintion of it for legal purposes and work so very hard to make everyone reading their posts to mistakenly think that the word "prostitution" in their Act had anything to do with those members' Pudunk country's concept of it and that those certain members would then mistakenly think that the mere act of consenting adults offering to and then exchanging sex for money and money for sex was illegal in Thailand and then continually spread that disinformation to others.

As though the authors of that Act were too dumb to figure out how to write "is illegal no matter what manner it is committed. ".

BTW, this also includes a bonus special education readers aid for the concept of "solicitation for prostitution" with regard to Thai law as it is also literally and in plain language defined in the Act.

Ok, here we go:

"Prostitution in a promiscuous manner Establishment" means the place or premises arranged for prostitution in a promiscuous manner or allowed for prostitution in a promiscuous manner, and shall include the place used for making contact or procuring another person for prostitution in a promiscuous manner.

Section 5

Whoever, for the purposes of prostitution in a promiscuous manner, offers, solicits, introduces oneself to, follows or importunes another person on a street, in a public place and such act is overtly and shamelessly committed or causes nuisance to the public shall be punished with a fine not exceeding one thousand baht.

Section 6

Whoever congregates with another person in a prostitution in a promiscuous manner establishment for the benefit of prostitution in a promiscuous manner of that person or of another person shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding one month, or a fine not exceeding one thousand baht, or both.

If the offence under the first paragraph is committed because of being forced or under an influence unable to avoid or resist, the offender is not guilty.

Section 7

Whoever advertises or agrees to advertise, induces or introduces with documents or printed material, or acts by any other means to distribute information to the public in an obvious manner of solicitation on a street, in a public place, committed overtly and shamelessly or causes a nuisance to the public or communication for prostitution in a promiscuous manner of that person or of any other person shall be punished with imprisonment of six months to two years, or a fine of ten thousand to forty thousand baht, or both.

There. Fixed it for the reading and comprehension-impaired out there who simply cannot carry forward a literal and plain language legal definition of terms for legal purposes into subsequent references to those terms so the authors don't have to repeat those legal definitions over and over again for those readers who simply can't master that particular reading and comprehension skill.

I hope that helps.

Oh, why not:

Prostitution according to some totally irrelevant Podunk country's legal definition of it might not be legal in Thailand if Thai Law gave a shit about that definition of it, which it doesn't, so it's not.

There. Fixed that often repeated bit of misinformation too.