Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[SubCmdr]

8 posts, all asking for contacts. Well, you are consistent. At least you're asking, not begging. Thanks for the offer of Delhi contacts, but I'll pass. But you might consider posting some AR's to establish some cred.

What do they say, you can take the Indian out of India, but you can't take the India out of the Indian.

You might try Pattaya. In Thailand, it's more self-serve. Good luck.

Why the double standard 11Brovo?

Hello friends, I will be in Phuket and Pattaya next week. Can some kind monger help and advise how to keep my member strong and hard everyday for my upcoming trip. I used to pop 250 MG earlier for a long lasting session but I don't want to do that everyday. So just want to know if there a way I can keep myself hard on a daily basis for a longer time. I am fit & healthy and plan to bang some really nice Thai beauties in this trip. Thanks in advance, SL.

He wrote this two months ago. I don't see 11 Bravo or anyone else getting SuperLove's case for asking questions.

[SubCmdr]

Good follow up info. Thanks again, AH.

I would say my success rate in enjoying BBFSCIP in the room in a first session with a gogo bargirl, applying the Go With The Flow approach, back when I applied it more often, was less than yours. More like 15-20%. Which is why I don't apply that approach very often anymore. It might be the same for me in Brazil I suppose. A really crappy success rate considering a No to that in the room means taking a huge gamble that the lady's willingness and skills in providing a BBBJCIM isn't horrible. Which would then means no sex or finish for me.

But, yes, my vetting the lady for BBFSCIP upfront before a barfine has been paid and therefore well before we get to the room improved my success rate in actually getting it to 80-85%. Yep, even a Yes in the bar does not guarantee a 100% success rate in the room if the lady then pulls a Jeykll & Hyde transformation, claims to have misunderstood, purposely blocks entry with the stiff legs move, too much wiggling and rapid position shifting and so on.

However, there are methods, locations and players in Thailand that do virtually guarantee to about a 99% certainty a lovely hassle-free BBBJCIM+Swallow, BBFSCIP with genuine affection, always the customer's choice which or both and with well above average lookers age 18 years or slightly above and for very little more baht than the going rate for standard Covered Everything. And I have been lucky enough to discover them through the years.

I would share that info on ISG but since SubCmdr has been on a rampage to bust punters, providers, players and shutdown venues for them being "not legal in Thailand" under his ridiculous premise that legal documents must list and state all of the millions and millions of acts and behaviors that are not a crime in a society rather than the few dozen of them that are sex-related crimes, I cannot do that. I value the pleasure they have provided me over the years too much to have the likes of SubCmdr and whatever army of anti non-criminal P4 P zealots he has gathered by now target them for arrest and shutdown.

Well look at this. EihTooms actually goes into a prostitution establishment, solicits for prostitution and fucks.

What happened to the idea you cannot actually share something related to the purpose of ISG because of The Cmdr?

ROTFLMAO!

Your impression is correct. The set-up at Thermae is really the worst imaginable for getting any important negotiations done effectively. It's fine, perhaps even great for punters who are looking for covered everything, no DFK and whose only points of negotiation are for How Long, How Many Shots and For How Much, which is apparently the only points that are brought up with those ladies by their usual punter clientele.

Recently I have had ok results getting an agreement for "kissing with our tongues touching, you give me a blowjob without a condom for a few minutes and then we have sex without a condom until I finish inside", otherwise known as DFK, BBBJ and BBFSCIP to us, with an above average looker in Thermae showing her the Google Translate app on my phone screen, as you suggested might be the way to go.

But that was after getting shutdown and refused by several other ladies around the room before getting to her and, frankly, the experience in bed was too mechanical to warrant more than one repeat even after she pestered me for a repeat for a couple of weeks before I agreed. 5,000 baht for each session.

My most frequent "success" with above average lookers in Thermae has been to only mention "blowjob no condom until I finish 100% inside your mouth", otherwise known as BBBJCIM to us, for 2,500 - 3000 baht with an above average looker and no mention of BBFSCIP at all on the assumption that at some point an above average looker in Thermae who initially agrees to just BBBJCIM with me might then more easily agree to BBFSCIP in the room during that session or the next session or the next session.

So far that has never happened for me with an above average looker in Thermae who initially agreed to BBBJCIM but not BBFSCIP. LOL. So it's a good thing I really like BBBJCIM with above average lookers.

Neither party is mine in your podunk country!

[EihTooms]

https://www.dailymail.com/news/artic...ai-police.html

A 52-year-old woman who claimed to be in charge of the business was arrested and taken in for questioning.

I don't know if this humble and truthful submission of mine will get posted before the usual suspect jumps in to proudly and loudly yet incorrectly proclaim, "See? See? More proof that my Podunk county's definition of Prostitution is not legal in Thailand"! Again.

LOL.

But someone who can read and comprehend the plain language in this and so many other reports of raids and what was seen ought to point out the usual missing words in this one as in the others is "And the man and his prostitutes were all arrested and charged with violating Section blah blah blah in the Thai blah blah blah Code forbidding the exchange of money for sex and sex for money among consenting adults."

Uh. Those magic words ain't there nor anything similar to them.

[EihTooms]

Brushing aside all the unsubstantiated nonsense opinions expressed by posters whose every linked news report or rumors of this or that raid, arrest, round up, etc ultimately and inevitably prove my position on the issues of Thai Law re sex and prostitution and refute theirs, I thought this would be a good time to explain why Thai Laws on the subject are written to address certain aspects of them and totally ignore others.

Bear in mind, this is only about those behaviors involving consenting adults age 18 or older.

Picture this scenario in Thailand: There is a non-descript building and venue located across the soi from a popular temple called Noi's Place. As you enter the door of Noi's Place you are asked for a 100 baht entrance fee. Then you are faced with a circular conveyor belt carrying twelve 18 year old ladies, laying naked and spread-eagle on that conveyor belt for your assessment of them. A manager approaches and answers any questions you might have about the sexual skills and specializes of each. No other entertainment, food or drinks are on sale in the place. You choose one young lady and, without exchanging a word, the two of you retreat to a room upstairs at Noi's Place, pay an additional 200 baht for the use of the room and after you have whatever style and amount of sex you and she agree to engage in you give your lady 2000 baht and leave Noi's Place a sexually satisfied and happy man.

Here's the reality; the Thai people in that neighborhood don't care what Noi and her ladies are doing or what her customers are doing on a moral point. From monks to the police, moms, dads, grandmothers, grandfathers, aunts, uncles, siblings, cousins, respected community leaders and other business owners, nobody gives a damn what is happening at Noi's Place or the consenting adults involved, their morals, the morals of anyone else in the neighborhood or Kingdom.

How do I know that? Aside from my decades of up close and personal contact with Thai people, being married to a Thai lady, years of engaging with her close family members who are well-educated, English-fluent, successful business owners with even uniformed police officers among them, I also have the Thai Penal Code to back me up on that position. Which, along with every other such legal document available for public consumption in virtually every country, is written with about as clear and plain language as a STOP sign on the road and not filled with "legalese" meant to be understood only by law school students, graduates and bar certified attorneys. There are laws books for that. These documents are not law books. They are written to be understood by lay people.

And Bulletin: There is not one detail in the scenario I pictured above for which the Thai Penal Code regarding Crimes Involving Sex has deemed to be illegal, a crime or punishable by any penalty whatsoever. There is not even so much as a single sentence reference to the subject of "prostitution" by any definition of it in that Code. There is only a crime cited for anyone 16 years old or older who cannot otherwise take care of themselves living off the earnings of a prostitute. That's it. Nothing else. And it wouldn't require being a rocket scientist to figure out that is very likely because familial or close relationship pressure on the prostitute to get out there and have more sex for more money inches closer to the possibility that the prostitute is being "forced" or unduly "coerced" into having sex with someone she isn't choosing to have sex with of her own free will. Which is forbidden by law for anyone in the Thai Penal Code, prostitute or not, money involved or not.

However, by stark contrast, there is one big issue on this subject that Thai people do care very much about and that is having the Kingdom be seen in a negative light by the overt and shameless on the street or another place causing a public nuisance solicitation for prostitution by their definition of prostitution and the fulfillment of that agreement being engaged in a promiscuous manner.

If Noi's Place changed its name to Noi's Place For Fucks and Sucks, there would be a Thai public outcry and demand it be shut down or at least the sign changed.

Enter the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996, which superseded the first one from 1960, which itself was only adapted by Thailand under pressure from the United Nations on typical Podunk country Western moral values grounds.

And as we all know by simply reading Title IX of that Act, there is not one word, phrase or sentence in it devoted to forbidding and citing as illegal or a crime punishable by any penalty whatsoever the mere person-to-person discussion and agreement between consenting adult to exchange sex for money or money for sex anywhere at anytime and them retreating to private quarters to fulfill that agreement. None.

Instead, there is an abundance of words, phrases and sentences devoted to defining the very narrow and specific version of an overt and shameless solicitation for prostitution according to Thai Law and the fulfillment of that agreement in a promiscuous manner according to Thai Law that could possibly make each a crime.

That Act is all about Preventing and Suppressing what Thai authorities know very well business-minded domestic and foreign entrepreneurs would do in a nanosecond if there were no laws specifically preventing and suppressing their urge to do it and would thereby allow the Kingdom to be seen in a negative light.

Bluntly put, they know within a week visitors and these days all the world would be seeing video clips of Brown Arches in the distance on busy Thai boulevards with "McD's Thailand Brothel, Over 60 Million Served" and when you get close enough to the building and windows, "Delicious Fucks and Sucks, 500 baht and up!

And that's why laws preventing and suppressing that outcome are the only ones to be found in the only legal document that addresses prostitution as it is narrowly and specifically defined in Thai Law. It is also why one of the heaviest penalties is reserved for Section 7 in that Act forbidding advertising sex for sale to the public in an obvious manner, 10,000 - 40,000 baht fine, 6 months to 2 years in prison or both. Yes, if they were ever to determine a gogo bar or beer bar a "prostitution establishment" and fined all 18 people in one and potentially 50 people in another 1,000 baht each just for congregating in the place that would be a heavier fine payday for the Kingdom. But even the most notorious Thai gogo bars and beer bars don't really qualify as a "prostitution establishment" according to Thai Law any more than the inside of a restaurant, lobby of a hotel or stretch of pavement in front of a temple.

Otherwise, Thailand and Thai Law has no opinion and has made no effort to declare illegal or cite as a crime the mere person-to-person solicitation for prostitution between consenting adults anywhere at any time, whether it is being done in a booth at Windmill Bar or in a booth at KFC, neither of which has been identified as a "prostitution establishment" if that were to occur according to any definition of them in Thai Law, or the fulfillment of that agreement in private quarters.

We know the way Thailand and Thai Law defines these things is not the way prostitution and solicitation for prostitution is defined in most Western societies and in their laws. But suggesting and then insisting that Thai Laws do or should or might without critical qualification is just ignorant and foolish nonsense.

[Explorer8939]

But I found a few others.

Danish Tourist and Thai Woman Caught in Obscene Act on Floating Buoy Off Pattaya Beach, Social Media Outraged

https://thepattayanews.com/2025/12/2...edia-outraged/

Thai Cops Arrested a Bunch of Tourists at a Hotel Orgy

https://www.vice.com/en/article/thai...-a-hotel-orgy/

https://www.dailymail.com/news/artic...ai-police.html

[SubCmdr]

I removed any thoughts of posting a review since it would just be buried in yet another taxi conversation that we have every couple/few months.

Brother, why do you think it is that I post my reviews in every thread except Pattaya Reports?

It is because so many don't understand what a Pattaya Report is. Most of the male bovine excrement posted in the Pattaya Reports thread should be in the Thailand Lounge and Chat Thread or the General Information thread

[SubCmdr]

In my opinion: the law (The Act) that we are discussing are written to allow for selective enforcement. It's all good. Until it isn't. Just like what happened with the Nominee Structures here in Thailand. Now, I have a theory as to why these laws are written as they are and why they are selectively enforced but that is another discussion.

The Cmdr has made this point before!

It's a bit strange hearing stories like this. A girl in a GC club told me that police officers regularly visit their club; they enjoy a drink, pick a girl, and go with her to the room like any other customer. She said that she had been with officers herself before

Finally, independent corroboration of what I have been saying all along.

Of course, they know exactly what's going on. This mean that these activities are "tolerated", in the sense that as long as it doesn't include drugs, under age or trafficking, police will turn a blind eye to it. Otherwise, why do people flock from all over the world to there, and why take an action that can risk them coming back?

My thoughts exactly!

[LondonBird]

About the same time that Windmill was raided, the police arrested one guy in a love hotel, reportedly for solicitation. He was arrested in a hot tub with a young lady, who apparently had been cooperating with the police.

It's a bit strange hearing stories like this. A girl in a GC club told me that police officers regularly visit their club; they enjoy a drink, pick a girl, and go with her to the room like any other customer. She said that she had been with officers herself before. Of course, they know exactly what's going on. This mean that these activities are "tolerated", in the sense that as long as it doesn't include drugs, under age or trafficking, police will turn a blind eye to it. Otherwise, why do people flock from all over the world to there, and why take an action that can risk them coming back?

[Banana Boi]

I'm new to the scene, which is why I'm asking for help and contacts. There's nothing wrong with asking questions when you're new to something.

It's more that whenever we see a post saying "can I have xxx's contact information" it's almost always from the same nationality and when we search their posts they're all the same thing, asking for information and not providing any reviews at all.

You may be a fantastic guy but sadly many before you have ruined it for you. Not unlike you may be a guy who will spend 10-20 k baht on lady drinks at a top Walking Street gogo bar but you will never gain entry because of those before you.

[11Bravo]

First of all, don't drag my country or nationality into this. If you have an issue with me, address me directly without resorting to cheap stereotypes.

I'm new to the scene, which is why I'm asking for help and contacts. There's nothing wrong with asking questions when you're new to something. If you don't want to help, that's absolutely fine just move on instead of keeping track of my posts and commenting on my activity. You seem to be paying more attention to my profile than necessary.

You don't have to help me, and I don't owe you an explanation. If you have nothing constructive to contribute, stay out of it. Simple as that.

1. At one point in time, EVERYONE here was a newbie, including me. Nothing wrong in asking questions. But I also understand reciprocity, and contributing. Like the masthead on the Indian thread says:

NO DESPERATE PLEAS FOR HELP!
DO NOT post messages begging other members to help you find a girl. If you do not have actual information to contribute, then DO NOT post.

Asking where's a good place to look for, that's general. Asking for a girl's contact, that's specific, and, where I come from, that's a name and number, especially if foreign and a FL.

Like I said, you weren't begging, but certainly a lot of asking. With no feedback provided.

And yes, I do vet. Force of habit. Before I pass along a CONTACT, I want to have an idea of who I'm dealing with. FR'S help with that, regardless of where posted.

2. I live in the real world, and (unfortunately), race and nationality DO play a part. If you think Thailand is colorblind, good luck with that. And since you brought up race, let's be honest. By your question, you're looking for a certain type. So is she.

Plenty of info here on where to find Thais. After all, this is Thailand. For a local businesswoman, they have the home court advantage. For a foreign businesswoman, they don't, and so are more careful. Fact of life, certain nationalities have a bad rap due to the actions of a FEW.

3. Finally, I was being helpful. Pattaya has a higher concentration of Russians than Bangkok, thus a higher probability of success. Yes, general, not specific. Still, functional.

Like HorseTrader says, here it's more places than individuals. You can always try this:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2762933
Look at "Searching, at your leisure" section, use search string "russian". Yes, homework.

Bottom line: You're free to post as you like; so am I.

Inside there were lots of girls, Thai as well as foreigners. But it was difficult to know about girl is freelancer or regular and in foreigner case tourist.

Your contributions appreciated.

That's true the world over. My solution is just to TRY and strike up a conversation with her. If you're invisible (ah yes, the ole cloak of invisibiltiy), she turns away, walks away, she's not interested. Moot point as to whether she's working or not.

If she participates in the conversation, if she's there for business, she'll soon let you know. Time IS money. Like an airport, a plane parked at her gate blocks any other circling planes. A civilian, a lookie-lou, is loosing time (and money). She wants to free up that gate for someone who is interested in business.

Where you from? : How fat is your wallet, how safe are you.

How long you stay Thailand? : Can I give you the tourist price, or must I give you the resident price.

Where you stay? : Another indication of wallet / safety, plus allows for calculation of transportation time / return cost.

If still indeterminate, ask what she's doing "later". Just like any bar, be careful of anyone wanting you to pick up the tab for a few. A businesswoman wants to make money, not drink.

Key off of the direction of the conversation. Like when you're walking down the street. The "My friend, where are you going?", you can quickly determine civilian question or someone wanting to take you somewhere.

If you're looking for a freebie pickup, that's one thing. But IMPE, if business CONFIRMED, best to confirm price, menu, time of departure BEFORE leaving the establishment, along with pay AFTER. If the last is not possible, then that is a variable to consider. Just prevents any number of problems later.

[SubCmdr]

What do they say, you can take the Indian out of India, but you can't take the India out of the Indian.

In my opinion, this is a racist comment and defamatory against the individual it was aimed had. It as NO place in ISG!

I will also add that 11Bravo should answer the question or just shut the fuck up!

[SubCmdr]

Prostitution is not legal in the Kingdom of Thailand!

Sex workers group calls for enquiry into arrest of 25 Pattaya street prostitutes before US carrier visit

For their part, officials stressed that prostitution remained illegal.

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-ne...carrier-visit/

Tourist Police Raid Pattaya Beach in Major Sweep, Arrest 16 Foreign Women for Alleged Solicitation of Prostitution

They were found to be engaging in behavior that violated Section 5 of the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act B.E. 2539 (1996), specifically for contacting, soliciting, introducing themselves, or approaching individuals in public places for the purpose of prostitution.

https://thepattayanews.com/2026/04/1...-prostitution/

Pattaya Police and Immigration Officers Crack Down on Suspected Prostitution Along Beachfront, 20 Mostly Foreign Women Arrested

Officers, some disguised as tourists, conducted surveillance and observed individuals standing on the sidewalk along Pattaya Beach. These women reportedly initiated conversations with foreign visitors, negotiated prices, and invited them for sexual encounters. In some cases, searches uncovered condoms and lubricating gel, which were seized as evidence.

https://thepattayanews.com/2026/02/1...omen-arrested/

PATTAYA POLICE ARREST 13 FOREIGN SEX WORKERS, SOME USE STUDENT VISAS

Initially, all 13 were detained under violations of Section 5 for soliciting, suggesting, introducing, following, or pestering along streets or in public places for prostitution. Two individuals were also charged with being foreigners staying in the Kingdom after their permission had expired. They were sent to Pattaya City Police Station for legal proceedings, visa revocation, and eventual deportation

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/...student-visas/

Prostitution is not legal in Thailand!

[HorseTrader]

First of all, don't drag my country or nationality into this. If you have an issue with me, address me directly without resorting to cheap stereotypes

If you think Thai businesses and people do not judge based on race and country of origin, you would be wrong. Young, handsome, wealthy Korean and Japanese men seem to be at the top of the pecking order, the rest of us are lower. There are reasons for it. Get used to it.

You make zero positive progress by attacking known posters in this forum. Bravo is right, your posting history is long on questions and short on good responses and reports.

This forum tends not to recommend specific girls, so don't expect that. There have been many reports that guide people to certain areas and sometimes certain businesses. You need to spend more effort reading and less effort asking questions and bashing posters.

[SubCmdr]

But I found a few others.

About the same time that Windmill was raided, the police arrested one guy in a love hotel, reportedly for solicitation. He was arrested in a hot tub with a young lady, who apparently had been cooperating with the police.

Danish Tourist and Thai Woman Caught in Obscene Act on Floating Buoy Off Pattaya Beach, Social Media Outraged

A 27-year-old domestic Thai tourist was left stunned and shaken while collecting shellfish on Jomtien Beach when he spotted a Danish man and a Thai woman engaged in what appeared to be sexual intercourse on a floating buoy in the sea in low tide, prompting an immediate police response.

https://thepattayanews.com/2025/12/2...edia-outraged/

Thai Cops Arrested a Bunch of Tourists at a Hotel Orgy

On Saturday night at about 11:30 PM police stormed a hotel room at the Ban Tulip Hotel in South Pattaya. What they found was 25 people in various stages of copulation, with sex toys, lube, and condoms scattered about the floor. Eleven men of varying origin were arrested along with 14 women.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/thai...-a-hotel-orgy/

[InsatiableFuck]

Need some contact of Russian or European girl in Bangkok.

My DM is open. Please help me someone.

Sorry if I got your hopes up. I am a bit clueless on this. Mixx, the night club, is said to have Russian women. Levels too.

I have been a few times, and never seen an available Russian or European girl (a few were with boyfriends or clients). There are definitely escort sites with these girls in BKK. If you google "Bangkok Russian escorts", you will get plenty of hits. I have looked at these sites, but as I prefer thin Thai girls to anyone else, I have never taken the bait.

I mostly do ThaiFriendly, because I can ask girls if they do BBFS in a straightforward way before committing myself. There are occasionally some Easter European girls there.