Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[SubCmdr]

500 baht street working girls are pretty lenient.

Hey you a dumb mother fuck! If you have ever been to Thailand you would know the following: most girls on Beach Road start at 1000 for Short Time. During the entire time I've been posted up in Thailand I've only had 1 girl ever offer my short time for 500. She was standing out in front of my hotel and it was the end of her shift. I was was the last International Trick she was turning for the night.

All of my girls that accept 500 to see me have jobs. You see you dumb mother fuck talking out the side of your neck. I am the Bank of Subcmdr. Because I got it like that. My bank charter was issued by the Commission of Flow and Stack. These are girls who when they are short cash, ask for a payday loan. Guess who is the loan officer? They get down on their knees or bend over toi make application for the loan. They choose to pay me back in cash or through services. Up to them!

If you ever actually visit Thailand you can step to my face and talk your male bovine excrement. That is if you have the testicular fortitude to do so mother fuck!

[SubCmdr]

No intention of bragging, but I've got some size over you, and after fucking hundreds of women in Japan I have never, even once, heard any mention of the size or complaint.

That sort of thing seems to be a lot more common in Thailand, Korea, or China, especially with women who don't really want to fuck foreigners and are looking for any excuse to say no or rush you through it.

I don't know what you are talking about brother. I've been posted up in Thailand for more than a minute. I've never been rushed. I only had one Thai girl tell me no in person and she still sucked my dick until I was ready to meet my objective. I met my objective with her on her breasts. Later on, she hit me wanting to come see me again. I told her sure, but she would have to take it this time. She agreed. Came back and took it and didn't complain. I met my objective in her pussy.

Now, I cannot speak to my size because it cause some up in here to have apoplectic fits. But there are more girls willing to take it or even take a chance with what they perceive (may or may not be) is a large penis. Now, I have gotten lots of personal feed back on my size and it has all been positive. Huge, Gigantic, Big are the adjectives they have used. I love watching their faces in missionary. Especially when I go deep. Sometimes I even get that special sound (which many of you mother fucks never hear).

The Cmdr is ballin like a mother fuckin Pro!

[SubCmdr]

Picture this scenario in Thailand: There is a non-descript building and venue located across the soi from a popular temple called Noi's Place. As you enter the door of Noi's Place you are asked for a 100 baht entrance fee. Then you are faced with a circular conveyor belt carrying twelve 18 year old ladies, laying naked and spread-eagle on that conveyor belt for your assessment of them. A manager approaches and answers any questions you might have about the sexual skills and specializes of each. No other entertainment, food or drinks are on sale in the place. You choose one young lady and, without exchanging a word, the two of you retreat to a room upstairs at Noi's Place, pay an additional 200 baht for the use of the room and after you have whatever style and amount of sex you and she agree to engage in you give your lady 2000 baht and leave Noi's Place a sexually satisfied and happy man.

Here's the reality; the Thai people in that neighborhood don't care what Noi and her ladies are doing or what her customers are doing on a moral point. From monks to the police, moms, dads, grandmothers, grandfathers, aunts, uncles, siblings, cousins, respected community leaders and other business owners, nobody gives a damn what is happening at Noi's Place or the consenting adults involved, their morals, the morals of anyone else in the neighborhood or Kingdom.

Produce a legal opinion by a member of the bar in Thailand that backs you up!

[SubCmdr]

Picture this scenario in Thailand: There is a non-descript building and venue located across the soi from a popular temple called Noi's Place. As you enter the door of Noi's Place you are asked for a 100 baht entrance fee. Then you are faced with a circular conveyor belt carrying twelve 18 year old ladies, laying naked and spread-eagle on that conveyor belt for your assessment of them. A manager approaches and answers any questions you might have about the sexual skills and specializes of each. No other entertainment, food or drinks are on sale in the place. You choose one young lady and, without exchanging a word, the two of you retreat to a room upstairs at Noi's Place, pay an additional 200 baht for the use of the room and after you have whatever style and amount of sex you and she agree to engage in you give your lady 2000 baht and leave Noi's Place a sexually satisfied and happy man.

Here's the reality; the Thai people in that neighborhood don't care what Noi and her ladies are doing or what her customers are doing on a moral point. From monks to the police, moms, dads, grandmothers, grandfathers, aunts, uncles, siblings, cousins, respected community leaders and other business owners, nobody gives a damn what is happening at Noi's Place or the consenting adults involved, their morals, the morals of anyone else in the neighborhood or Kingdom..

Produce a legal opinion by a member of the bar in Thailand that backs you up!

[JizzyB]

Completely Agree SubCmdr. 3 K for ST is preposterous.

3000 for short time is crazy number for me. Call me cheap or poor it does not matter to The Cmdr. In Pattaya I pay 500 - 2000 for short time; 3000 long time. Period. Full Stop!

All prices in THB!

[EihTooms]

Well look at this. EihTooms actually goes into a prostitution establishment, solicits for prostitution and fucks.

What happened to the idea you cannot actually share something related to the purpose of ISG because of The Cmdr?

ROTFLMAO!

Neither party is mine in your podunk country!

According to the plain language definitions in the Act, a "Prostitution Establishment" means the place or premises arranged for prostitution in a promiscuous manner or allowed for prostitution in a promiscuous manner, and shall include the place used for making contact or procuring another person for prostitution in a promiscuous manner.

And the definition of Promiscuous Manner in this context would certainly mean "random, disorderly, indiscriminately and unrestrained."

Having been inside Thermae many times to have a drink, eat some popcorn, relax, people watch and incidentally on occasion engage in the perfectly legal, according to Thai Law, person-to-person discussion about exchanging money for sex with a consenting adult and on occasion the also perfectly legal, according to Thai Law, retreating to private quarters with my prostitute of choice to fulfill any such agreement, I don't see how Thermae qualifies under Thai Law as anything but what the sign outside suggests it is and what in fact it is inside; a cafe and bar one enters to have a drink, eat some food, relax, people watch, meet new friends and as an aside perhaps meet a consenting adult who chooses to engage in a perfectly legal discussion and agreement to exchange money for sex.

I wish the hotter ladies that I happen to meet and have a brief chat with in Thermae were "indiscriminate and unrestrained" in their manner of accepting my person-to-person offer to exchange money for sex.

Unfortunately, I suspect in a police sting operation based on an informant tip, a plain-clothes officer who looks, speaks, dresses and behaves exactly like me would be in for a rude awakening about any selective enforcement bust he could make of anyone associated with or congregating in the place on the mistaken assumption it was a "Prostitution Establishment" according to Thai Law. There is a ton of discrimination and restraint regarding the exchange of money for sex practiced by anybody and everybody who chooses to do so in Thermae.

[SubCmdr]

3000 for short time is crazy number for me. Call me cheap or poor it does not matter to The Cmdr. In Pattaya I pay 500 - 2000 for short time; 3000 long time. Period. Full Stop!

All prices in THB!

[SubCmdr]

8 posts, all asking for contacts. Well, you are consistent. At least you're asking, not begging. Thanks for the offer of Delhi contacts, but I'll pass. But you might consider posting some AR's to establish some cred.

What do they say, you can take the Indian out of India, but you can't take the India out of the Indian.

You might try Pattaya. In Thailand, it's more self-serve. Good luck.

Why the double standard 11Brovo?

Hello friends, I will be in Phuket and Pattaya next week. Can some kind monger help and advise how to keep my member strong and hard everyday for my upcoming trip. I used to pop 250 MG earlier for a long lasting session but I don't want to do that everyday. So just want to know if there a way I can keep myself hard on a daily basis for a longer time. I am fit & healthy and plan to bang some really nice Thai beauties in this trip. Thanks in advance, SL.

He wrote this two months ago. I don't see 11 Bravo or anyone else getting SuperLove's case for asking questions.

[SubCmdr]

Good follow up info. Thanks again, AH.

I would say my success rate in enjoying BBFSCIP in the room in a first session with a gogo bargirl, applying the Go With The Flow approach, back when I applied it more often, was less than yours. More like 15-20%. Which is why I don't apply that approach very often anymore. It might be the same for me in Brazil I suppose. A really crappy success rate considering a No to that in the room means taking a huge gamble that the lady's willingness and skills in providing a BBBJCIM isn't horrible. Which would then means no sex or finish for me.

But, yes, my vetting the lady for BBFSCIP upfront before a barfine has been paid and therefore well before we get to the room improved my success rate in actually getting it to 80-85%. Yep, even a Yes in the bar does not guarantee a 100% success rate in the room if the lady then pulls a Jeykll & Hyde transformation, claims to have misunderstood, purposely blocks entry with the stiff legs move, too much wiggling and rapid position shifting and so on.

However, there are methods, locations and players in Thailand that do virtually guarantee to about a 99% certainty a lovely hassle-free BBBJCIM+Swallow, BBFSCIP with genuine affection, always the customer's choice which or both and with well above average lookers age 18 years or slightly above and for very little more baht than the going rate for standard Covered Everything. And I have been lucky enough to discover them through the years.

I would share that info on ISG but since SubCmdr has been on a rampage to bust punters, providers, players and shutdown venues for them being "not legal in Thailand" under his ridiculous premise that legal documents must list and state all of the millions and millions of acts and behaviors that are not a crime in a society rather than the few dozen of them that are sex-related crimes, I cannot do that. I value the pleasure they have provided me over the years too much to have the likes of SubCmdr and whatever army of anti non-criminal P4 P zealots he has gathered by now target them for arrest and shutdown.

Well look at this. EihTooms actually goes into a prostitution establishment, solicits for prostitution and fucks.

What happened to the idea you cannot actually share something related to the purpose of ISG because of The Cmdr?

ROTFLMAO!

Your impression is correct. The set-up at Thermae is really the worst imaginable for getting any important negotiations done effectively. It's fine, perhaps even great for punters who are looking for covered everything, no DFK and whose only points of negotiation are for How Long, How Many Shots and For How Much, which is apparently the only points that are brought up with those ladies by their usual punter clientele.

Recently I have had ok results getting an agreement for "kissing with our tongues touching, you give me a blowjob without a condom for a few minutes and then we have sex without a condom until I finish inside", otherwise known as DFK, BBBJ and BBFSCIP to us, with an above average looker in Thermae showing her the Google Translate app on my phone screen, as you suggested might be the way to go.

But that was after getting shutdown and refused by several other ladies around the room before getting to her and, frankly, the experience in bed was too mechanical to warrant more than one repeat even after she pestered me for a repeat for a couple of weeks before I agreed. 5,000 baht for each session.

My most frequent "success" with above average lookers in Thermae has been to only mention "blowjob no condom until I finish 100% inside your mouth", otherwise known as BBBJCIM to us, for 2,500 - 3000 baht with an above average looker and no mention of BBFSCIP at all on the assumption that at some point an above average looker in Thermae who initially agrees to just BBBJCIM with me might then more easily agree to BBFSCIP in the room during that session or the next session or the next session.

So far that has never happened for me with an above average looker in Thermae who initially agreed to BBBJCIM but not BBFSCIP. LOL. So it's a good thing I really like BBBJCIM with above average lookers.

Neither party is mine in your podunk country!

[EihTooms]

https://www.dailymail.com/news/artic...ai-police.html

A 52-year-old woman who claimed to be in charge of the business was arrested and taken in for questioning.

I don't know if this humble and truthful submission of mine will get posted before the usual suspect jumps in to proudly and loudly yet incorrectly proclaim, "See? See? More proof that my Podunk county's definition of Prostitution is not legal in Thailand"! Again.

LOL.

But someone who can read and comprehend the plain language in this and so many other reports of raids and what was seen ought to point out the usual missing words in this one as in the others is "And the man and his prostitutes were all arrested and charged with violating Section blah blah blah in the Thai blah blah blah Code forbidding the exchange of money for sex and sex for money among consenting adults."

Uh. Those magic words ain't there nor anything similar to them.

[EihTooms]

Brushing aside all the unsubstantiated nonsense opinions expressed by posters whose every linked news report or rumors of this or that raid, arrest, round up, etc ultimately and inevitably prove my position on the issues of Thai Law re sex and prostitution and refute theirs, I thought this would be a good time to explain why Thai Laws on the subject are written to address certain aspects of them and totally ignore others.

Bear in mind, this is only about those behaviors involving consenting adults age 18 or older.

Picture this scenario in Thailand: There is a non-descript building and venue located across the soi from a popular temple called Noi's Place. As you enter the door of Noi's Place you are asked for a 100 baht entrance fee. Then you are faced with a circular conveyor belt carrying twelve 18 year old ladies, laying naked and spread-eagle on that conveyor belt for your assessment of them. A manager approaches and answers any questions you might have about the sexual skills and specializes of each. No other entertainment, food or drinks are on sale in the place. You choose one young lady and, without exchanging a word, the two of you retreat to a room upstairs at Noi's Place, pay an additional 200 baht for the use of the room and after you have whatever style and amount of sex you and she agree to engage in you give your lady 2000 baht and leave Noi's Place a sexually satisfied and happy man.

Here's the reality; the Thai people in that neighborhood don't care what Noi and her ladies are doing or what her customers are doing on a moral point. From monks to the police, moms, dads, grandmothers, grandfathers, aunts, uncles, siblings, cousins, respected community leaders and other business owners, nobody gives a damn what is happening at Noi's Place or the consenting adults involved, their morals, the morals of anyone else in the neighborhood or Kingdom.

How do I know that? Aside from my decades of up close and personal contact with Thai people, being married to a Thai lady, years of engaging with her close family members who are well-educated, English-fluent, successful business owners with even uniformed police officers among them, I also have the Thai Penal Code to back me up on that position. Which, along with every other such legal document available for public consumption in virtually every country, is written with about as clear and plain language as a STOP sign on the road and not filled with "legalese" meant to be understood only by law school students, graduates and bar certified attorneys. There are laws books for that. These documents are not law books. They are written to be understood by lay people.

And Bulletin: There is not one detail in the scenario I pictured above for which the Thai Penal Code regarding Crimes Involving Sex has deemed to be illegal, a crime or punishable by any penalty whatsoever. There is not even so much as a single sentence reference to the subject of "prostitution" by any definition of it in that Code. There is only a crime cited for anyone 16 years old or older who cannot otherwise take care of themselves living off the earnings of a prostitute. That's it. Nothing else. And it wouldn't require being a rocket scientist to figure out that is very likely because familial or close relationship pressure on the prostitute to get out there and have more sex for more money inches closer to the possibility that the prostitute is being "forced" or unduly "coerced" into having sex with someone she isn't choosing to have sex with of her own free will. Which is forbidden by law for anyone in the Thai Penal Code, prostitute or not, money involved or not.

However, by stark contrast, there is one big issue on this subject that Thai people do care very much about and that is having the Kingdom be seen in a negative light by the overt and shameless on the street or another place causing a public nuisance solicitation for prostitution by their definition of prostitution and the fulfillment of that agreement being engaged in a promiscuous manner.

If Noi's Place changed its name to Noi's Place For Fucks and Sucks, there would be a Thai public outcry and demand it be shut down or at least the sign changed.

Enter the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996, which superseded the first one from 1960, which itself was only adapted by Thailand under pressure from the United Nations on typical Podunk country Western moral values grounds.

And as we all know by simply reading Title IX of that Act, there is not one word, phrase or sentence in it devoted to forbidding and citing as illegal or a crime punishable by any penalty whatsoever the mere person-to-person discussion and agreement between consenting adult to exchange sex for money or money for sex anywhere at anytime and them retreating to private quarters to fulfill that agreement. None.

Instead, there is an abundance of words, phrases and sentences devoted to defining the very narrow and specific version of an overt and shameless solicitation for prostitution according to Thai Law and the fulfillment of that agreement in a promiscuous manner according to Thai Law that could possibly make each a crime.

That Act is all about Preventing and Suppressing what Thai authorities know very well business-minded domestic and foreign entrepreneurs would do in a nanosecond if there were no laws specifically preventing and suppressing their urge to do it and would thereby allow the Kingdom to be seen in a negative light.

Bluntly put, they know within a week visitors and these days all the world would be seeing video clips of Brown Arches in the distance on busy Thai boulevards with "McD's Thailand Brothel, Over 60 Million Served" and when you get close enough to the building and windows, "Delicious Fucks and Sucks, 500 baht and up!

And that's why laws preventing and suppressing that outcome are the only ones to be found in the only legal document that addresses prostitution as it is narrowly and specifically defined in Thai Law. It is also why one of the heaviest penalties is reserved for Section 7 in that Act forbidding advertising sex for sale to the public in an obvious manner, 10,000 - 40,000 baht fine, 6 months to 2 years in prison or both. Yes, if they were ever to determine a gogo bar or beer bar a "prostitution establishment" and fined all 18 people in one and potentially 50 people in another 1,000 baht each just for congregating in the place that would be a heavier fine payday for the Kingdom. But even the most notorious Thai gogo bars and beer bars don't really qualify as a "prostitution establishment" according to Thai Law any more than the inside of a restaurant, lobby of a hotel or stretch of pavement in front of a temple.

Otherwise, Thailand and Thai Law has no opinion and has made no effort to declare illegal or cite as a crime the mere person-to-person solicitation for prostitution between consenting adults anywhere at any time, whether it is being done in a booth at Windmill Bar or in a booth at KFC, neither of which has been identified as a "prostitution establishment" if that were to occur according to any definition of them in Thai Law, or the fulfillment of that agreement in private quarters.

We know the way Thailand and Thai Law defines these things is not the way prostitution and solicitation for prostitution is defined in most Western societies and in their laws. But suggesting and then insisting that Thai Laws do or should or might without critical qualification is just ignorant and foolish nonsense.

[Explorer8939]

But I found a few others.

Danish Tourist and Thai Woman Caught in Obscene Act on Floating Buoy Off Pattaya Beach, Social Media Outraged

https://thepattayanews.com/2025/12/2...edia-outraged/

Thai Cops Arrested a Bunch of Tourists at a Hotel Orgy

https://www.vice.com/en/article/thai...-a-hotel-orgy/

https://www.dailymail.com/news/artic...ai-police.html

[SubCmdr]

I removed any thoughts of posting a review since it would just be buried in yet another taxi conversation that we have every couple/few months.

Brother, why do you think it is that I post my reviews in every thread except Pattaya Reports?

It is because so many don't understand what a Pattaya Report is. Most of the male bovine excrement posted in the Pattaya Reports thread should be in the Thailand Lounge and Chat Thread or the General Information thread

[SubCmdr]

In my opinion: the law (The Act) that we are discussing are written to allow for selective enforcement. It's all good. Until it isn't. Just like what happened with the Nominee Structures here in Thailand. Now, I have a theory as to why these laws are written as they are and why they are selectively enforced but that is another discussion.

The Cmdr has made this point before!

It's a bit strange hearing stories like this. A girl in a GC club told me that police officers regularly visit their club; they enjoy a drink, pick a girl, and go with her to the room like any other customer. She said that she had been with officers herself before

Finally, independent corroboration of what I have been saying all along.

Of course, they know exactly what's going on. This mean that these activities are "tolerated", in the sense that as long as it doesn't include drugs, under age or trafficking, police will turn a blind eye to it. Otherwise, why do people flock from all over the world to there, and why take an action that can risk them coming back?

My thoughts exactly!

[LondonBird]

About the same time that Windmill was raided, the police arrested one guy in a love hotel, reportedly for solicitation. He was arrested in a hot tub with a young lady, who apparently had been cooperating with the police.

It's a bit strange hearing stories like this. A girl in a GC club told me that police officers regularly visit their club; they enjoy a drink, pick a girl, and go with her to the room like any other customer. She said that she had been with officers herself before. Of course, they know exactly what's going on. This mean that these activities are "tolerated", in the sense that as long as it doesn't include drugs, under age or trafficking, police will turn a blind eye to it. Otherwise, why do people flock from all over the world to there, and why take an action that can risk them coming back?