Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[Nyezhov]

So I take it Rio and Tijuana are no longer as good as they used to be?

Nothing is as good as it used to be. But that doesn't mean its bad.

[EihTooms]

I don't quite get it. The challenge is to find a girl that appeals, enough. If you want a challenge, you go looking for freebies, with the non hookers.

I am not sure how paying hookers can be considered a challenge. Okay Bar girls can knock you back and they do, but Oily MP girls rarely knock back a customer.

So yeh its a challenge for me, but that is in the Thermae. I often can't get the girls I prefer, beaten out by the japanese. So I don't waste my time there any more.

Not all of us enough time available away from the Mrs, to be spending a lot of time hunting. Hence a BJ shop is for desperate days when time is very short.

I agree. I have never sensed that there is the least bit of challenge to get a girl who would easily qualify among the top 5% best lookers, not even in Thermae, frankly. Ok, maybe the 5 best lookers in Thermae out of 200 girls on a busy night might turn away as a 66 year old farang approaches them. Big deal. They would probably be lousy in bed anyway.

No, the ONLY real challenge in the Thai P4P scene is finding or convincing an above average looking girl to engage in BBFS+CIP or, to a lesser degree, BBBJ+CIM. That's it. Ok, Anal is a special problem all its own.

But if you are the kind of customer who is fine with covered FS and never or rarely chooses a CIM finish to an otherwise oral foreplay BBBJ, then the entire country of Thailand's P4P girls, with the possible exception of girls who are into Japanese customers and are at that moment within eye view of a Japanese man, are available to you at their going rate 365/24/7. I suppose even getting a simple oral foreplay BBBJ and/or DFK is a small challenge these days. But one could still count yourself meeting a huge challenge if an above average looking Thai girl agrees to BBFS+CIP and yet refuses to do either of those two things. Otherwise, no challenge, no hunt, no negotiation, no discussion, nothing more is required but to say Hi and decide on how much baht it will cost.

However, the goal of getting well laid and well sucked outside the P4P scene, a "freebie", is a challenge. And I actually group direct P4P girls, dating site girls, girls you meet just cruising around town, etc as similar in that challenge. LOL. With rare exception the dating site girls and the girls you meet around town in restaurants and malls are as likely to be hitting you up for financial aid (because they need it) as a girl working in a go-go bar anyway. The only difference is in how soon and for how much.

[Syzygies]

I concur. When I want to get laid, I don't want to spend hours and hours looking for a gal. I want to go somewhere, pick one, enjoy, and get about my day. I can understand how a tourist, frequent visitor, or even a new resident might enjoy this, but after a time there are other things that one does and getting laid is just a part of what you do.

Yeh, we do have other things to do, and posting is only another time waster, but I have not even mongered for the last 4 weeks. Many years ago I had no Mrs or GF and had lots of time for surveying (2004), but not now. I certainly don't want to be going to discos at 1 or 2 am and wasting hours in there.

Having a list of regulars, cuts down my search time a lot, the challenge then is patiently waiting for them to be available, but hopefully getting on with other things till that fuck time arrives.

Its raining almost non stop and many provinces are flooded. I am happy enough just to be not underwater. Everywhere is soggy.

[Syzygies]

I used to love "the hunt. " It was fun and always paid off. The sheer number of p4 p gals in and around sukhumvit 15-20 years ago was staggering. You literally could not go 20 mtrs without hearing "go with you. " When the oilies took off 11 years ago, each PSE shop had at least 3 or 4 lookers who performed. It was a hunt, but a hunt on the sense that you were trying to pick the best out of a pretty good BUNCH. You'd see a great gal and if it was early you'd hesitate because the chances of something better was a good bet. One of the best times was 2am when Nana and Cowboy closed. You could position yourself outside and there would be a flood of gals coming out all looking for a customer. You'd be propositioned by literally hundreds of gals. Every gal that was not barfined at the time was looking to make money. It was epic. This ended about 2005 when the bar owners started policing after work as they were angry about losing barfines. The rapid increase in salaries also had an effect as gals were making more and didn't need to hustle as much. When I arrived in 99 standard salaries were 6, 7, and 8k respectively for bikini, topless, and nude dancing respectively. A gal that didn't go with customers didn't make enough. Now agency gals make at least 30k salary a month not including drinks. So the need to hustle sts and lts is not as great.

Now, for instance, when I go out and walk the oilies, I see lots of dark gals, most of whom are at least 5-10 k overweight or if they are up to snuff looks wise have too many "rules. " I'm certain there are gems out there, but way fewer and harder to find. I've been by be&be recently; several times in fact during weekdays. The lookers must all be busy as the gals I saw needed to hit the gym and stay off the big desserts and out of the sun. I'll give it another look next time I'm on 24/1.

We became very spoiled in SE Asia in the late 90's and early 00's. To many of us the whole point of mongering is that it is not a challenge to find a great looking gal who performs for little money.

I was not aware that Oilies started to take off 11 years ago. Simply because that is when I first tried Tulip and other Oilies not much earlier. In my early times I was mainly a Soapies customer, but they declined badly over the years, for levels of fun and service.

In early 2000's I was coming back to the bar scene after a few years absent, and was difficult because I did not have much clue what the prices should be. The steep rise had already happened some time earlier I think, given that bargirl LT in 1991 was 400 to 500 Baht (plus BF maybe 160 Baht roughly). Right now, prices seem to have doubled again, since early 2000's (or is it tripled? Doubling over say 15 years is not that ridiculous. 4. 7% compound interest. Maybe a little steep. If tripled that is too much.

Prices remained low in Oilies due to the continual drop in quality of the girls, and the continual increase in the competition, any other factors? The Bar scene never had that level of strong competition, and got flooded by the Japanese customers too.

Yeh I hate how bargirls can make reasonable to good money just by just dancing now, and obviously that has added a lot of pressure to selling drinks and drink prices. Even ugly girls seem to think they are worth 3 K for ST now, clearly not value for money. I probably can get a girl for 2. 5 K at Thermae with no BF, but I struggle to get a good one, so its false economy. Better off with a Soi 4 girl way cheaper and some of them performing well for my needs (its a gamble), or a good Oily girl when can find one. Only had two Soi 4 girls worth repeating in recent years (but that is far better than my Thermae success rate).

[Goatscrot]

I don't quite get it. The challenge is to find a girl that appeals, enough. If you want a challenge, you go looking for freebies, with the non hookers.

I am not sure how paying hookers can be considered a challenge. Okay Bar girls can knock you back and they do, but Oily MP girls rarely knock back a customer.

So yeh its a challenge for me, but that is in the Thermae. I often can't get the girls I prefer, beaten out by the japanese. So I don't waste my time there any more.

Not all of us enough time available away from the Mrs, to be spending a lot of time hunting. Hence a BJ shop is for desperate days when time is very short.

I concur. When I want to get laid, I don't want to spend hours and hours looking for a gal. I want to go somewhere, pick one, enjoy, and get about my day. I can understand how a tourist, frequent visitor, or even a new resident might enjoy this, but after a time there are other things that one does and getting laid is just a part of what you do.

[Syzygies]

Mongering without a challenge to me is analogous to jacking off to porn (as long as it doesn't get too difficult LOL).

I don't quite get it. The challenge is to find a girl that appeals, enough. If you want a challenge, you go looking for freebies, with the non hookers.

I am not sure how paying hookers can be considered a challenge. Okay Bar girls can knock you back and they do, but Oily MP girls rarely knock back a customer.

So yeh its a challenge for me, but that is in the Thermae. I often can't get the girls I prefer, beaten out by the japanese. So I don't waste my time there any more.

Not all of us enough time available away from the Mrs, to be spending a lot of time hunting. Hence a BJ shop is for desperate days when time is very short.

[Goatscrot]

Where you would occasionally find a strong 9, and in brasil pretty much all the working girls fuck like porn stars. So when you would find a stunner you could have a lot of no holes barred fun: Very fond memories.

Sounds like my fond memories in Tijuana LOL anything and everything 1 mil pesos circa 2018,lots of ass fucking rimming A2m etc, with very very hot 18-19 yo.

I will be in BKK before Jan. 1 sometime?

Ill post a message if you want to meet at soi 22, there's a small esan Thai seafood place, if you like seafood ill buy lunch.

So I take it Rio and Tijuana are no longer as good as they used to be?

[Goatscrot]

Can I ask what kind of rates you like to stick with when skipping the bars and massage shops.

Thanks for the report.

Quality by quantity LOL.

I like it.

Its my modus operandi for mongering.

Not a lot of pointing and clicking with me.

I like the hunting for gems as well.

Not much can compete with it if you ask me.

Its so exhilarating when you strike gold.

Mongering without a challenge to me is analogous to jacking off to porn (as long as it doesn't get too difficult LOL).

I used to love "the hunt. " It was fun and always paid off. The sheer number of p4 p gals in and around sukhumvit 15-20 years ago was staggering. You literally could not go 20 mtrs without hearing "go with you. " When the oilies took off 11 years ago, each PSE shop had at least 3 or 4 lookers who performed. It was a hunt, but a hunt on the sense that you were trying to pick the best out of a pretty good BUNCH. You'd see a great gal and if it was early you'd hesitate because the chances of something better was a good bet. One of the best times was 2am when Nana and Cowboy closed. You could position yourself outside and there would be a flood of gals coming out all looking for a customer. You'd be propositioned by literally hundreds of gals. Every gal that was not barfined at the time was looking to make money. It was epic. This ended about 2005 when the bar owners started policing after work as they were angry about losing barfines. The rapid increase in salaries also had an effect as gals were making more and didn't need to hustle as much. When I arrived in 99 standard salaries were 6, 7, and 8k respectively for bikini, topless, and nude dancing respectively. A gal that didn't go with customers didn't make enough. Now agency gals make at least 30k salary a month not including drinks. So the need to hustle sts and lts is not as great.

Now, for instance, when I go out and walk the oilies, I see lots of dark gals, most of whom are at least 5-10 k overweight or if they are up to snuff looks wise have too many "rules. " I'm certain there are gems out there, but way fewer and harder to find. I've been by be&be recently; several times in fact during weekdays. The lookers must all be busy as the gals I saw needed to hit the gym and stay off the big desserts and out of the sun. I'll give it another look next time I'm on 24/1.

Thanks for the recommendation on Premier. I like places that have cards telling what the gal does and doesn't do. Boss has them as well. That way no surprises for either party.

Agree on the point and click. No interest in the internet scene.

I like a hunt, and don't mind getting up at 5 am to climb on that blind, as long as I know the feeder is going off at 6 am and the deer will be there. Mongering with a challenge? I'm ok as long as the challenge is choosing the best out of a huge pool of good ones. We became very spoiled in SE Asia in the late 90's and early 00's. To many of us the whole point of mongering is that it is not a challenge to find a great looking gal who performs for little money.

[AmPervert]

Great post Bubba Boy.

[CzarNicholas]

Yes, we are probably on the same page. You have to put the work in the get the results. Life is a journey not a full stop kind of thing.

Quality by Quantity was a phrase coined by a fellow deviate while living in Brazil. We used to hit Terma 4 x 4 in Rio where there was maybe 200 women. Most were heavily tatted up gansta chics with average looks, but with that amount of women you would always fine a dozen very high quality Bundas (asses) = quality by quantity.

We used to also divide the city into areas too as the action was spread over various clusters through out the city. My favourite was a trip through "the dark side" so named because it was the old port side where there were very few street lights and general decay, plenty of homeless shitting in the street etc however there were a string of barely surviving 2nd or 3rd tier termas where you would occasionally find a strong 9, and in brasil pretty much all the working girls fuck like porn stars. So when you would find a stunner you could have a lot of no holes barred fun: Very fond memories..

Where you would occasionally find a strong 9, and in brasil pretty much all the working girls fuck like porn stars. So when you would find a stunner you could have a lot of no holes barred fun: Very fond memories.

Sounds like my fond memories in Tijuana LOL anything and everything 1 mil pesos circa 2018,lots of ass fucking rimming A2m etc, with very very hot 18-19 yo.

I will be in BKK before Jan. 1 sometime?

Ill post a message if you want to meet at soi 22, there's a small esan Thai seafood place, if you like seafood ill buy lunch.

[Bubba Boy]

Can I ask what kind of rates you like to stick with when skipping the bars and massage shops.

Thanks for the report.

Quality by quantity LOL.

I like it.

Its my modus operandi for mongering.

Not a lot of pointing and clicking with me.

I like the hunting for gems as well.

Not much can compete with it if you ask me.

Its so exhilarating when you strike gold.

Mongering without a challenge to me is analogous to jacking off to porn (as long as it doesn't get too difficult LOL).

Yes, we are probably on the same page. You have to put the work in the get the results. Life is a journey not a full stop kind of thing.

Quality by Quantity was a phrase coined by a fellow deviate while living in Brazil. We used to hit Terma 4 x 4 in Rio where there was maybe 200 women. Most were heavily tatted up gansta chics with average looks, but with that amount of women you would always fine a dozen very high quality Bundas (asses) = quality by quantity.

We used to also divide the city into areas too as the action was spread over various clusters through out the city. My favourite was a trip through "the dark side" so named because it was the old port side where there were very few street lights and general decay, plenty of homeless shitting in the street etc however there were a string of barely surviving 2nd or 3rd tier termas where you would occasionally find a strong 9, and in brasil pretty much all the working girls fuck like porn stars. So when you would find a stunner you could have a lot of no holes barred fun: Very fond memories.

Price: I am not big on taking girls home so just pay sticker price at the massage places. Usually THB 2000 for 60 minutes or THB 2500 for 90 minutes at say 24/1 type places. When you get into the Japanese dominated places like say Premier it is a little more but the rooms are much nicer. Think THB 3000 3500. The great thing about these places when you work out which are the better ones is that they do ask how was the service after you come out of the room. Repeat business is important to them as opposed to the GoGo scene where the business model is very churn and burn. I just can't do GoGo's anymore as the service generally sux as any price.

BBBJ: I personally can't remember getting a covered blowjob at any of these places. Plenty of girls give rim jobs and other assorted shit too.

[KiJang]

Was the CBJ your idea or did she insist?

Not my idea. When she slipped on the tight Thai condom I was expecting her to ride and not CBJ.

[CzarNicholas]

Don't take all the negativity on this board too seriously. There are 500+ massage places along Sukhumvit Rd and 10,000+ young ladies willing to take your cash for a little of their time. You can find whatever you want from those numbers and that is just in 1 area. There are several other areas as well. You just need to put the work in and use a systematic approach to sift the chaff from the rice so to speak. Quality by quantity!

For example I personally segment each area of Suk Road into scouting laps, about 4 laps in total for this area. Each lap takes about 2 hours and is more of an exploratory run, sure if I see a no brainer cutie I will hit it, but if I can get say 5 leads then It is more than worth it too. I tend to go Monday to Wednesday starting at 7 pm and aim to end at 9 pm. On the weekend Fri. Sun Bangkok is very busy and I tend to find the A Team is usually booked, the be team is never that great. The be team is what you will see all day, every day but the A team is definitely there you just have to look.

One of my laps is Soi 22/26. I start at Soi 22 and when I get to the first sub soi off to the left I slowly walk down it both sides. All the girls will come out and try and grab you, just walk slowly taking in the surrounding and scout what is there. I then go back to soi 22 and off to the bar area to the right hand side. It is a bit sad these days but there are lots of ladies there at it only takes 1. I then continue back over to the left side and explore each little sub soi 1 by 1. There is probably a dozen or more places down each sub soi until the action stops about 3 sub sois past the huge Marriot hotel. Probably took me about 30 minutes to explore 8 sub sois but I saw 200 women.

If you find a standout you would grab it. However sometimes you see a cutie that is not available so get her name or you ask the Mamasan "any young 20 to 25 year olds with No Babies" available / not here and get some names for further follow up next time you do your lap.

I will then head over to soi 24. I will thoroughly explore the first sub soi on the left because there are a ton of girls, probably 200 + just in that first sub soi. I avoid addict and the place next door operated by the French dude, service is usually not great and twice the cost. There are 2 or 3 places which are very good in that area, just depends what you want.

Then it is on to 24/1. As you turn into it from Phrom Phong BTS there are 10 or so places all lined up on the right. I hug the right hand side and walk very slowly scanning what is there. These places are like icebergs, only a fraction is outside, there are often many more ladies inside. The tip of the iceberg girls out front will say "massage massage" to you but they are all full service with little massaging going on. I just walk slowly and scan nook and cranny. You quite often spot a hottie in the back ground that is sitting down, coming out of or going into a booking. If she isn't available you can just ask for her name for next time. My current favourite place in Bangkok is in 24/1 - be & be. When you walk past there are maybe 6 ladies out the front but when you go in they come from everywhere. Can be 20/30 women. 2000 be for 60 minutes, 2500 be for 90 minutes. There are 3 very hot young baby free ladies there right now, they are usually booked but if you go in the quieter times Monday to Thursday you might see them available.

Then I continue through 24/1 into 26. You can go to the left and there are aa few places both side but I usually head down into the predominantly Japanese street which is 26/1. Premier101 massage (photos on their site) is located there and is a current fav as well. Premier probably has 100 ladies on their books, maybe 20 working at any time. As you go in you look at the book which lists what they do IE BBBJ, Etc and they have a sticker on them to show if in a booking or not. You can get the full line up or just see a few that you pick out of the book. I usually go through the book, ask the mamasan if they have babies or not and then go from there. They know me so even show me other ladies photos working other days that may suit. Like any Japanese orientated place it is very "clicky" in that some of the girls have a lot of regulars and are always booked. I have seen Japanese guys delivering some hottie back to the club on their scooter, all laughing etc. Something about a lady in street clothes coming back to the club always looks hotter but I digress..

Can I ask what kind of rates you like to stick with when skipping the bars and massage shops.

Thanks for the report.

Quality by quantity LOL.

I like it.

Its my modus operandi for mongering.

Not a lot of pointing and clicking with me.

I like the hunting for gems as well.

Not much can compete with it if you ask me.

Its so exhilarating when you strike gold.

Mongering without a challenge to me is analogous to jacking off to porn (as long as it doesn't get too difficult LOL).

[Gargano19]

Was the CBJ your idea or did she insist?

I am curious too, as in past I have always got BBBJ.

[Goatscrot]

Walked over to Angel on 24/1 this afternoon, on a whim, with shopping bags in my hand. The lady at the counter asked me if I knew how the system works. Asked her to enlighten me. Said it's 2100 all in including boom boom for 1 hour and you may choose your girl from behind the sliding door. A bit overwhelmed when the door opened. No glass partition. Stood there looking at 20 beauts (no fuglies). Picked a tall fit looking one with see cup implants (tastefully done, realized later that they were implants). She spoke very well, kept a conversation going while doing a thorough professional deed. Always polite and courteous and engaging. Right from the initial. Would you you like to use the restroom before we begin, to the gentle and firm cleanup in the shower, to ensuring my sweaty shirt was hung up to dry, to the slippery massage and sex. All good. The hand technique was amazing and if not careful I would have cum then and there. It was my first gel experience. Well I had one at Dr. BJ / Nuru years back but that was rubbish in comparison. She paid particular attention to the ridge under the glans. Asked her to stop lest I cum. The covered BJ was not great. It was not bad considering she used a bit of teeth to negate the dull rubber feel. The riding sex was excellent. She is very fit and can almost levitate with only the necessary parts in contact. Great for a lazy FK like me. I could not cum though and asked her to finish me off with her gel hand job. She obliged with one combined with a passionate cat bath and bites. Unrushed service. A firm relaxing massage in the thigh area afterwards. Her name is Jade / Jed. I went with out any expectations and Angel delivered 10/10 almost. Will go back.

Was the CBJ your idea or did she insist?