Bangkok Reports

[TomSam]

Yes, I do. I've gotten too many BBBJ+CIMs from too many different types of girls through the years to think it is a big deal for them to figure it out and do it. Girls in BJ Bars knock them off in 10-15 minutes, pocket only 400-500 baht of the fee, tops, and suffer no long term health risks. Many go-go girls, non pro dating site and casual meet up girls do it better than the supposed experts in the BJ Bars.

This isn't about "wanting" to do it, btw.

A chubby 35 year old or whatever grown up adult woman, a Bangkok street hooker, who portrays herself as desperate for customers and money during the most dire economic stretch of her lifetime but refuses to agree to finish a blowjob like a blowjob and not a hand job (while dishonestly promoting it as a "blowjob finish") for 2 to 2 1/2 times the amount of money the experts in her area get for it (and almost half an average Thai week's wage during normal times working 10 hours a day 6 days a week) without bothering to do her own research on how safe and commonplace it is in her world is quite silly, exceedingly lazy or both.

I was pissed that she had wasted my time and good will waving back, chit-chatting with her as I passed by all those times, commiserating and sympathizing with her painfully sad and forlorn "no customers" laments, adding her to my Line, being awakened at 9am by her urgent call, talking and negotiating with her there and so on when I could have devoted those several precious minutes helping so many other girls who deserved it instead.

ET,

Let's call it what it is, you are not providing charity or helping. It's a business transaction that requires negotiation and agreement from both parties.

What you want in the transaction, she does not want to provide for the price given.

The tone of your posts irk me. You believe you are some high and mighty generous man who helps these women and provide them charity. In reality, you are an old man who no woman on earth under 40 would be willingly have anything to do with you. You should be more grateful and thank your lucky stars that there are poor women who are willing to let you touch them for a fee. I'm not even talking about BBFS or CIM, you should be on your knees praying to your god day and night that any woman let you do that.

Just giving you a reality check. Be more grateful and empathetic.

[Member #4733]

(and your alternate account)

I am not sure whether you deemed me to be an alternate account. Well, I am not. Even more so. I do not have paid sex without a condom. It might happen that the condom breaks. That happened a few times. After that I get tested. I don't agree with you about 'desperate girls accepting BBFS'. Actually this was offered to me in FKK land in December 2018. I declined. Lost a good sex partner by doing so. So, just the other way round from what you suppose. I do value your concern for the health of the girls. I do not agree with ET having BBFS but that is his choice and that of the girl. And I wonder whether the girls are really against it. In Thailand my condom broke on three occasions. On all three occasions the girl accepted this as 'a matter of fact' while I was worried a lot. Beyond that. Comparing FKK land and Thailand one must say that girls in FKK land have a lot more sessions and in Thailand girls only have one session a day or less. So, the risk of spreading diseases is much smaller. But I do value ET's stories and wouldn't like to do without them on this forum. And I really wonder whether you read the tone and intent of his stories well. Just read some of them again. Do you really think he is the kind of person that would exploit another account. Come on!

[EihTooms]

You know full well we were talking about BBFS, not a BJ. Maybe it's fine if both people agree, but you (and your alternate account) are constantly talking about trying to get desperate girls who would normally refuse it to risk their long-term health for your moment of pleasure.

In my book, that's a despicable behavior and sullying the good name of all of us highly respected whoormongers.

You know full well what I proposed was EITHER BBFS OR BBBJ-CIM and you decided to drop the BBBJ+CIM part out of your quite of me in order to make a point about rewarding her for something I did not corner into choosing.

Also, I have never had an alternate account here or on any other message board.

[Franciscass]

You know full well we were talking about BBFS, not a BJ. Maybe it's fine if both people agree, but you (and your alternate account) are constantly talking about trying to get desperate girls who would normally refuse it to risk their long-term health for your moment of pleasure.

In my book, that's a despicable behavior and sullying the good name of all of us highly respected whoormongers.

I don't share ET's opinion of women generally nor his believing there is little or no health risk to unprotected sex but to be fair not sure I go along with depicting him as taking advantage of desperate women into having BBFS with him. Actually I have always felt assuming his regular testing for STD's, having had a vasectomy etc claims are true and no reason to doubt they are that it he himself who is risking his health rather than his companion.

[Crocodilexp]

But why would you want to reward a self-portrayed "desperate for customers" Thai hooker with an extra tip for being silly or lazy enough to refuse delivering a simple CIM finish BJ for hundreds of baht more

You know full well we were talking about BBFS, not a BJ. Maybe it's fine if both people agree, but you (and your alternate account) are constantly talking about trying to get desperate girls who would normally refuse it to risk their long-term health for your moment of pleasure.

In my book, that's a despicable behavior and sullying the good name of all of us highly respected whoormongers.

[EihTooms]

I do appreciate your contributions very much. Especially as they are down-to-earth and you are one of the few that live in Bkk now and contributing to the site with stories about sessions. Bravo. But this one I did not understand.

It's my experience that girls lamenting and complaining about no customers or customers faults simply are the worst performers.

You're right. At least two of my half dozen or so weekly repeats and regulars not only look great but they keep their pussies sweet and shaved at all times, fuck me bareback and suck better than many real porn stars, swallow with a smile, never make lame excuses, never complain about "no customers" because they know if there is 1 potential customer within sight of them they will convince him to take them at a fair rate IF they are interested in him taking them, seem to be quite happy in their work even during serious economic downturns, own their own car, are building homes in their province and are never short of wads of 1,000 baht notes in their purse.

Two others adamently refuse my offer to transfer 1,000 or so to them in weeks when I am just too busy with other girls to see them for the usual 2,000 LT I give them.

My sympathy for that silly, lazy, older lady on Sukhumit who I'm guessing does virtually none of those things other than the usual and typical bareback fucking for 1-2 of her reliable sponsors who themselves no doubt bareback fuck many other P4P girls before seeing her all the time, only extended as far as agreeing with her that things are tough all over as I passed by. And now only 1 time attempting to relieve her pain by offering to chartiably pay her 1,000 ST - 2,000 LT for providing no more than what those regular repeat girls mentioned above provide for me (less really, since I made no mention of swallowing and did not expect it of her) and for generally the same baht amounts I give them.

And that was despite the fact that I assumed, as you did, that she was probably bad at her chosen job. I guess you could say I was feeling exceptionally generous of spirit at the moment. Probably because I know how lucky I am to be living here.

[Member #4733]

I do appreciate your contributions very much. Especially as they are down-to-earth and you are one of the few that live in Bkk now and contributing to the site with stories about sessions. Bravo. But this one I did not understand.

sympathizing with her painfully sad and forlorn "no customers" laments

It's my experience that girls lamenting and complaining about no customers or customers faults simply are the worst performers.

[Franciscass]

Yes, I do. I've gotten too many BBBJ+CIMs from too many different types of girls through the years to think it is a big deal for them to figure it out and do it. Girls in BJ Bars knock them off in 10-15 minutes, pocket only 400-500 baht of the fee, tops, and suffer no long term health risks. Many go-go girls, non pro dating site and casual meet up girls do it better than the supposed experts in the BJ Bars.

This isn't about "wanting" to do it, btw.

A chubby 35 year old or whatever grown up adult woman, a Bangkok street hooker, who portrays herself as desperate for customers and money during the most dire economic stretch of her lifetime but refuses to agree to finish a blowjob like a blowjob and not a hand job (while dishonestly promoting it as a "blowjob finish") for 2 to 2 1/2 times the amount of money the experts in her area get for it (and almost half an average Thai week's wage during normal times working 10 hours a day 6 days a week) without bothering to do her own research on how safe and commonplace it is in her world is quite silly, exceedingly lazy or both.

I was pissed that she had wasted my time and good will waving back, chit-chatting with her as I passed by all those times, commiserating and sympathizing with her painfully sad and forlorn "no customers" laments, adding her to my Line, being awakened at 9am by her urgent call, talking and negotiating with her there and so on when I could have devoted those several precious minutes helping so many other girls who deserved it instead.

Not for the first time ET we will have to agree to disagree. Of course there are lots of girls who do CIM and lots who don't. For me the difference is not laziness or silliness it's down to the choice they make. I feel we need to respect the right of girls to choose which services they provide and not call them silly or lazy when they do. I'll meet you halfway though and agree there are lots of silly and lazy girls out there not because of the range of their services but because of indifferent attitudes, unhappy lives, and bad management at the shops they work at.

[Chacal60]

Some girls groove to the CIM and some don't. As I wrote in my Samui excursion last week, a deft Hoover of seed is always a keeper in my book, even if she slips away to spit me out later.

But the "pretend BBBJ" that involves more HJ than tonsil tickling is just downright lazy.

Yes, I do. I've gotten so many BBBJ+CIM from so many girls through the years to think it is a big deal for them to figure it out and do it. Girls in BJ Bars knock them off in 10-15 minutes, pocket only 400-500 baht of the fee, tops, and suffer no long term health risks. Many go-go girls do it better than the supposed experts in the BJ Bars.

A chubby 35+ year old woman who portrays herself as desperate for customers and money during the most dire economic stretch of her lifetime but refuses to agree to finish a blowjob like a blowjob and not a hand job (while dishonestly promoting it as a "blowjob finish") for 2 to 2 1/2 times the amount of money the "experts" in the area get for it without bothering to do her own research on how safe and commonplace it is in her world is quite silly, exceedingly lazy or both.

We're not talking about "wanting" to do it, btw.

[EihTooms]

Really ET, come on even you don't believe not wanting to do CIM is down to laziness and silliness.

Yes, I do. I've gotten too many BBBJ+CIMs from too many different types of girls through the years to think it is a big deal for them to figure it out and do it. Girls in BJ Bars knock them off in 10-15 minutes, pocket only 400-500 baht of the fee, tops, and suffer no long term health risks. Many go-go girls, non pro dating site and casual meet up girls do it better than the supposed experts in the BJ Bars.

This isn't about "wanting" to do it, btw.

A chubby 35 year old or whatever grown up adult woman, a Bangkok street hooker, who portrays herself as desperate for customers and money during the most dire economic stretch of her lifetime but refuses to agree to finish a blowjob like a blowjob and not a hand job (while dishonestly promoting it as a "blowjob finish") for 2 to 2 1/2 times the amount of money the experts in her area get for it (and almost half an average Thai week's wage during normal times working 10 hours a day 6 days a week) without bothering to do her own research on how safe and commonplace it is in her world is quite silly, exceedingly lazy or both.

I was pissed that she had wasted my time and good will waving back, chit-chatting with her as I passed by all those times, commiserating and sympathizing with her painfully sad and forlorn "no customers" laments, adding her to my Line, being awakened at 9am by her urgent call, talking and negotiating with her there and so on when I could have devoted those several precious minutes helping so many other girls who deserved it instead.

[Eric Swiss]

I went quite early at Billboard, around the 10 pm mark on a weekday. It is definitely a hot place! Many girls, few punters. I got my temperature checked twice, once at the entrance of Nana Plaza, and once at the entrance of Billboard, but it was all a joke. I had forgotten my face mask at home and nobody cared.

There seems to be an A-team and a be-team alternating. Unfortunately, when I arrived, the A-team was on the rotary, and it takes me a while to warm up mentally. But there was a cute girl on the be-team, and at lady-drink time I had good chemistry with her. Maybe 26 years old, 1 m62, not super skinny but definitely not anywhere near the fat zone. Pretty smile.

We went to the nice short-time hotel on the same floor as Billboard but on the other side of the you. Last year, when negotiating this balcony walk, I always used to get harassed by ladyboys, but thankfully this seems to be a thing of the past. There is a Japanese-themed gogo at the other corner with girls dressed in nurse uniforms (Ginza? And I'd definitely want to try that.

In the sack, Fern's performance was pretty good. Nothing to write home about, but since it was my first gogo in a long time, it was well worth the expenditure. You don't pay for the ejaculation per se, but more for the fun overall experience. Anyway, here's the breakdown:

60 Baht Moto-taxi to go.

160 Baht San Miguel Light.

170 Baht Lady Drink.

700 Baht Bar Fine.

350 Baht short-time Hotel.

50 Baht condom.

2500 Baht for Lady (She asked 3000, I countered 2000, we settled 2500, all in the space of 20 seconds).

200 Baht tip.

60 Baht moto-taxi to return.

I would recommend her as a safe option, but probably wouldn't repeat her due to my preference for change. If I had the time, I would definitely repeat Nana Plaza in general, with Billboard as a sure-fire backstop. Contrary to what some people have said, the prices are relatively reasonable compared to what they were in the past.

[Franciscass]

silly or lazy enough to refuse delivering a simple CIM

Really ET, come on even you don't believe not wanting to do CIM is down to laziness and silliness.

[EihTooms]

Happy to hear that, good on her for not risking her long-term health. Next time I'll remember to give her a good tip so she doesn't have to.

Well, she might not be the same lady. But if she is, any charitable contribution you can make would no doubt be greatly appreciated, which was my reasoning in finally deciding to chat with her a bit longer, exchange Line info and consider taking her at all. Every time I passed by she looked so forlorn and her painfully sad lament about "no customer" seemed heartfelt and genuine.

But why would you want to reward a self-portrayed "desperate for customers" Thai hooker with an extra tip for being silly or lazy enough to refuse delivering a simple CIM finish BJ for hundreds of baht more, probably 2 1/2 times more than nearby younger and cuter girls get for delivering it many times a day without long-term health problems?

[EihTooms]

Does anybody have any info (mostly on girls asking prices and I guess barfines) about the new bar complex at the corner of Sukhumvit and soi 7? I seen it in a video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI4QzBCbzos&t=465s.

I pass through there fairly often to check out the scene and I have sat at 4 bars for a drink and to possibly take a girl. It can be quite lively for an hour or two some evenings.

So far I have only seen and met 3 girls I considered attractive enough to buy a drink for as prelude to possibly taking, each in different bars. And of those only one turned out to be genuinely available for barfine. For me, that is. Two were very cute, lobbied hard to get me to sit with them at their bar then clammed up and wondered away mentally and physically (to their cell phone, to the toilet, to another area of the complex, whatever) as soon as their drink hit the table. I never even bothered to ask about the barfine or discuss anything else about a session.

One, at the last bar directly on Soi 7 right before you get to Beer Garden, is still working there most evenings, still lobbying hard for me to sit, still hustling pointless Lady Drinks apparently. Another one just left the scene to get married. LOL. I see pics of her in a wedding gown on her Line Timeline.

A third one was very attentive and fun, the barfine was 500 baht I think and she delivered a very rewarding ST for 1,500 baht. Then she went kookoo emotionally and began pestering me multiple times every day to return to her bar to take her again. Way too nutty. When I pass by her bar now I try to limit it to a smile, wave and keep moving.

I am not one to make mental notes about exact costs unless they are a stand out in either direction. The barfine might have been 600 baht. I could not tell you exactly how much the LDs cost. But I know it was not so notably different on either count than normal. I mean, it wasn't 300 baht barfine and 90 baht for LDs vs 120 baht or anything like that.

[Crocodilexp]

Absolutely "NO!" to boom boom no condom.

Happy to hear that, good on her for not risking her long-term health. Next time I'll remember to give her a good tip so she doesn't have to.