Seeking Arrangements

[LshRoomer]

Home runs definitely do exist. I'm in talks with a few girls now that seem promising. This morning, I headed out to see the 29 year old single mom knowing that the story I was going to write tonight was going to be awesome and intriguing. LOL. I was wrong.

After buying some coffee for us, I pulled up to her house and saw a Pest control truck there. This was strange because she has complained multiple times that she doesn't have a car and has to use Uber as her main mode of transport. Already the Spidy senses were tingling. I drove around the block looking for somewhere to park so I could walk to her house instead of parking in her driveway. No luck. The neighborhood was residential and there were no guest parking spots. After pulling into her driveway and arming myself (you never know what you will encounter), I approached and knocked on the door.

There is a preconceived notion that must be mentioned here. After everything she told me, I was absolutely under the impression that she probably lived alone (with her 3 kids) and her place was that of a single mom that doesn't have a high earning salary. Ok, now you know what was deep in my head as I approached the front door. After ringing the bell, she answered and let me in. We all have varying degrees of experience with price tag women (SBs, escorts, etc) and that usually serves as a guide for the first moments of a new encounter. Here are some things that I noticed within the first 30 seconds of meeting / greeting.

1. She didn't smile; Her hair was just like the pictures. She was the attractive girl in the pictures a long time ago. She had become something else once the smoking, possibly drugs, and bad lifestyle habits caught up to her.

2. Bad teeth. Her grill was bad with brown teeth. I wouldn't even let her give me a BJ. No way.

3. Her house was nice. Like very nice, with a pool in the back, etc. Way too nice for a struggling mom of three.

4. An obvious gut. I'm not being picky, but her pics showed no resemblance of a gut or anything close. She is thin, with a weird gut. Wasn't into it. Damnit, I'm in my forties with a six pack, I can expect my SB to not have a belly. This was one of those bellies that I couldn't just overlook.

5. She didn't give me a hug or anything warm. It's amazing how so much happens in the first 30 seconds of meeting.

6. She took me right to her room. I had visions of chilling on the couch, talking, building up, kinda regular SB stuff. No.

So, as I'm standing in her room, she started to take the pillows off the bed while we were chatting. She seemed really tired (it was about 11 am) and I couldn't get over how brown her teeth were and how bad they looked. She was definitely the girl in the pics, but a more degraded, beat up version. She told me that she lives with other people, so I said, "oh, you have roommates?" She responded that no they own the house and she has her room and her kids have another room. They have a deal that any company has to go right to her room and not chill in the main area. That was enough for me. I left and said F it. I'll be in Spain and Portugal in 3 weeks. I'm just going to chill til then. I may give another local a try, but my gosh if they are anything like this, it's truly not worth my time.

Oh. I had a fallback in case things didn't work out. I hit up the fallback. That was a bust too. She said that she wanted a deposit for the 400 for taking time out of her day. We all make more money than these girls. If we put an hourly number to our income, it is leagues above theirs in 97% of the cases. It kills me when they talk about how precious their time is, without recognizing they are talking to execs and professionals that have heavy demands on their time and that we are carving time out for them. Some girls get that, like my SB in london, my sb in Spain, my sb in Prague. WTF is wrong with these american girls (obviously not all, I've had wins in the US)?

Be safe out there.

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[Steve 9696]

I am tired of US as well. Have a trip coming up to SF. Will give it a shot.

But already planning my trip to Europe in summer. Trying to identify stories to tell at home for solo EU trip Europe rocks.

So I stay in touch w another ISG member who had good luck w SA in Mexico. I've been coaching up his US game and by god with a lot of persistence he hit pay dirt in a major western US city. Scored a 19 year old who WANTED to go bareback (not negotiated ahead) and took a full load of CIM and swallow. I've seen her pics and she's legit hot and naughty. And only 400 beans. It CAN be done. With game and persistence. Good luck out there!

[Gfefan]

I am tired of US as well. Have a trip coming up to SF. Will give it a shot.

But already planning my trip to Europe in summer. Trying to identify stories to tell at home for solo EU trip Europe rocks.

Europe is my preference when it comes to SA, but once in a while a domestic US trip comes up. In the most recent case, I hit SA, renewed my sub, and went to work. The whole process just felt like I had to put in a bit more work, in comparison to EU SBs.

Whatever the case, after my trip, my membership was still active. Orlando completely failed and maintained its reputation in my head as one of the worst places to monger, I usually don't engage on my own turf, but figured I would see if I could find a cute spinner that I could call when the mood strikes. Wasn't looking for my "normal SB" where we go out to party, drink, smoke shisha and explore the city. Instead I pretty much wanted a local flexible girl, that wasn't a pro, but that I could have "escort level" access to. Hahaha.

Stumbled across a slim chick, 29, with a pretty face, and tits that I can't wait to see. Haha. Our coffee date fell though, so we agreed to have another coffee date at her place, but I have to bring pastries. LOL She's a single mom and I'm curious to see how things are going to pan out. Good, bad, or indifferent, you have to report on the mission. Haha.

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[LshRoomer]

Europe is my preference when it comes to SA, but once in a while a domestic US trip comes up. In the most recent case, I hit SA, renewed my sub, and went to work. The whole process just felt like I had to put in a bit more work, in comparison to EU SBs.

Whatever the case, after my trip, my membership was still active. Orlando completely failed and maintained its reputation in my head as one of the worst places to monger, I usually don't engage on my own turf, but figured I would see if I could find a cute spinner that I could call when the mood strikes. Wasn't looking for my "normal SB" where we go out to party, drink, smoke shisha and explore the city. Instead I pretty much wanted a local flexible girl, that wasn't a pro, but that I could have "escort level" access to. Hahaha.

Stumbled across a slim chick, 29, with a pretty face, and tits that I can't wait to see. Haha. Our coffee date fell though, so we agreed to have another coffee date at her place, but I have to bring pastries. LOL She's a single mom and I'm curious to see how things are going to pan out. Good, bad, or indifferent, you have to report on the mission. Haha.

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[Rextor]

I am traveling to MTY now, but I am also getting some crazy high prices as well, I just laugh. Some of these girls are just average girls, no way I would be anymore $175-200, I can see guys paying $300, in CDMX, but in MTY anything above $250 is way too much. Especially in CDMX there are tons available of available chicks, MTY, not so much. Some will say no, but most will say yes, $200-250. It takes some work, but you will find some amazing girls in CDMX. I love the city and girls.

Thanks for the insight, yes most girls seem to be in the 200 - 300 range.

Also, what's typically the vibe with SA dates in cdmx? Generally my plan is, if I sense that these are not SA newbies then I am going to go for drinks, and if things flow well will plan on being physical that very night. If I get a sense of nervousness then I plan on just meeting for drinks / coffee first, and just cover their uber / small gift and start setting up the physical date.

[Gfefan]

I have a self-given pet name that only I know (not even my friends). This is the name girls know me by. I pay cash (well, mostly). When not possible, I use my card discretely. I don't truly reveal where I work.

Also, during our first date (which happens only if M&G go well), I set ground rules. No photos / videos of us together. I set rules on when and how we can text or call each other. I respct their privacy and don't ask them the same questions I will not answer them.

All said and done, if my SB is smart, she can reverse image search my private photos and find me. So far, I haven't yet come across that "smart" SB or they are much smarter than that. Not revealing to me that they found who I am.

I generally reveal private pic and remove access immediately after they text me "lets proceed". I simply tell them that I have been scammed before (not true) and this is nothing personally against them. I encourage them to remove my access to their private pics as well. I kinda make it look like I am taking care of her as well. It works everytime.

You want a full first and last name to go by. All my girls know me as Steve. It's my alter ego. And I have a pseudonym last name also. This is very important for things like dinner reservations. The hostess will greet you right this way mr smith. Got to have a fake last name.

When I pay for dinner make sure the side of the card with your name is face down. Nonetheless high brow places may say "enjoy your evening Mr Smith" which sucks. But again if she doesn't know your first name she can't really Google you. So the fake first name is equally important.

If you go to a swingers club together you both register and she's prob going to learn your name. But if you are going to a swingers club you are probably past trust issues. LOL.

[DramaFree11]

Is anyone else getting some absolutely eyewatering quoted in CDMX for SA girls? Multiple girls have quoted 7000 MXN (400 USD right now). To be fair, these are absolute smoke shows / models, but still I'm caught off guard. I have been able to find a few girls for 2000 but they aren't the prettiest I would say.

I am traveling to MTY now, but I am also getting some crazy high prices as well, I just laugh. Some of these girls are just average girls, no way I would be anymore $175-200, I can see guys paying $300, in CDMX, but in MTY anything above $250 is way too much. Especially in CDMX there are tons available of available chicks, MTY, not so much. Some will say no, but most will say yes, $200-250. It takes some work, but you will find some amazing girls in CDMX. I love the city and girls.

[Steve 9696]

Is anyone else getting some absolutely eyewatering quoted in CDMX for SA girls? Multiple girls have quoted 7000 MXN (400 USD right now). To be fair, these are absolute smoke shows / models, but still I'm caught off guard. I have been able to find a few girls for 2000 but they aren't the prettiest I would say.

DramaFree is the CdMx expert. I believe he said going rate for him was 150-250 USD. I think prob towards the high end of that. My girl was 220 usd and I'the say an 8.

[Rextor]

Is anyone else getting some absolutely eyewatering quoted in CDMX for SA girls? Multiple girls have quoted 7000 MXN (400 USD right now). To be fair, these are absolute smoke shows / models, but still I'm caught off guard. I have been able to find a few girls for 2000 but they aren't the prettiest I would say.

[Steve 9696]

Well, didn't think of that. I guess that's another reason to have separate rooms (as someone suggested a while back). I am sure I am not thinking of a lot more. E. g. , if we are traveling, then I will have to take my name and show my ID when checking into the hotel. So need her away at that time.

What else comes to your mind?

You want a full first and last name to go by. All my girls know me as Steve. It's my alter ego. And I have a pseudonym last name also. This is very important for things like dinner reservations. The hostess will greet you — right this way mr smith. Got to have a fake last name.

When I pay for dinner make sure the side of the card with your name is face down. Nonetheless high brow places may say "enjoy your evening Mr Smith" which sucks. But again if she doesn't know your first name she can't really Google you. So the fake first name is equally important.

If you go to a swingers club together you both register and she's prob going to learn your name. But if you are going to a swingers club you are probably past trust issues. LOL.

[Intelligencium]

Happy to hear a different perspective. Do you have a rule of thumb on when do you switch?

I will be there 10 days. I may end up spending a good chunk of that time with one girl, traveling with her etc, but it will be a one-and-done time relationship. I plan to be careful about not revealing my true identity, e. G. , by booking separate rooms when traveling, not checking into hotels, car rentals etc (where I have to show my ID) in front of her. But I don't understand why she would care that I am single or married, when both of us know there is no future.

Respectfully disagree with some of the other posters.

If you're getting into a relationship with a sugars, fine don't lie. They'll be around you enough and there are signs. Phone calls, name tags, hotel check in sheets, etc.

But for the short term thing you're describing, absolutely say you're single. I always do. Because the last thing you want is a girl who has personal info on you and can blackmail you. I lie about basically everything that can identify me.

[Intelligencium]

Although also as MW said it's tough to obscure your identity forever with a girl you spend lots of time with. Hardest is hotel TV screen. It's going to have your real name and if you leave her alone in the room she could see it. Just an FYI for everyone that's tough to conceal.

Well, didn't think of that. I guess that's another reason to have separate rooms (as someone suggested a while back). I am sure I am not thinking of a lot more. E. g. , if we are traveling, then I will have to take my name and show my ID when checking into the hotel. So need her away at that time.

What else comes to your mind?

[Steve 9696]

Respectfully disagree with some of the other posters.

If you're getting into a relationship with a sugars, fine don't lie. They'll be around you enough and there are signs. Phone calls, name tags, hotel check in sheets, etc.

But for the short term thing you're describing, absolutely say you're single. I always do. Because the last thing you want is a girl who has personal info on you and can blackmail you. I lie about basically everything that can identify me.

I think the point was specifically about marriage status, which is something that "matters" to girls. Def obfuscate everything else. False name. Burner phone. Occupation and whatever. These are just white lies. If you want something that might develop past the first date then the marriage thing is a tough on to reneg on IMO.

Although also as MW said it's tough to obscure your identity forever with a girl you spend lots of time with. Hardest is hotel TV screen. It's going to have your real name and if you leave her alone in the room she could see it. Just an FYI for everyone — that's tough to conceal.

[AmericanPi]

Respectfully disagree with some of the other posters.

If you're getting into a relationship with a sugars, fine don't lie. They'll be around you enough and there are signs. Phone calls, name tags, hotel check in sheets, etc.

But for the short term thing you're describing, absolutely say you're single. I always do. Because the last thing you want is a girl who has personal info on you and can blackmail you. I lie about basically everything that can identify me.

Hey guys,

I am going to in Europe (posted about it a few times) on a SA focused mongering trip. I am married, but wife won't know about this hobby.

Do you guys tell your SA potential about your relationship status in real life? I am chatting with a cute girl from SA and we have a really good chemistry. I may want to spend a lot of time with her when in Europe and may be even go on trips with her. But I haven't told her yet that I am married. My SA profile also says that I am "Single". I didn't think too much back then, mostly just assuming that SA girls wouldn't want to talk to me if I told them I am married.

So question for you folks: what would you do in this situation? Should I tell her the truth? There is a good chance that she will not be as warm towards me if she finds out that I am married. If she decides to bail, it will be a loss. But I guess I can find other girls who will be more PPM oriented. There are no dearth of girls willing to talk and meet, but she was a bit special w. Are. T. Our chemistry so far.

[DramaFree11]

Thanks for the advice! I already lied to her in chat. She suddenly asked if I'm single and / or have kids, and I panicked and said no. I guess I'll have to figure out a way to find clean. Maybe say I lied on chat because it was hard to explain over chat, and wanted to talk on person / over call: thatthings are a bit complicated.

That is the great benefit about SA, no reason to lie in an arrangement.