Medellin Reports

[Osteoknot]

That's some good intel right there, by the way did you see the paisa buses outside of the airport, I am talking about the ones for the 10000 peso fares.

When I left Medellin just before the quarantine, the bus fare went up to 13,000 pesos. That's less than a dollar increase but worth noting because the convenience of paying with a 10,000 peso note is no longer there. The drivers make change, but I like to get off the bus with exact change. They collect at the end of the ride.

[GeneHickman]

This is CRITICAL to understand. Present yourself as nearly as financially impotent as they are. Negotiate and low-ball everything. Say "no" even when you could easily say yes. Hint around at freebees, or just hanging out, even though you're unlikely to get one. Its managing expectations. Tell them outright "ya no tango dinero". They "get it", everyone they know is broke, flat broke.

They come back expecting and accepting less. Demand and be clear about what you want. 12 minutes mechanical penetration with a condom is not good enough. (unless its a rare, irresistible trophy hottie in a sala or club. And prepare to be disappointed) Almost no one is irresistible anymore. Satisfaction trumps fantasy.

Giving money for nothing... gifts, loans, bail-outs, emergencies... do it if your spirit moves you... but it is not a strategy. Doing it garners no admiration, respect, or loyalty.. especially from a person substantially younger that has no clue what money is or how it appears in someones life.

Do not have 5 million pesos "hidden"(yeah right) in your apartment. Then invite an unknown, potentially psychotic or calculating teenager, from a fucking phone app, and from a culture that you don't understand, over for drinks.

A love hotel is what? 4 mil-90 mil peso for 3 hours. The math there is brutally obvious. I'm glad this guy was rescued. He was damned lucky to have an alert support network however small. But that was so careless and foolish its jaw dropping.

Spider, I definitely follow that "no dar pappaya" approach, and talk like I am of modest means just for impact, but these putas have already been conditioned to know that a extranero monger has money. If you're staying somehwere there is a guard then by definition you have money, they know you spent a decent amount on travel and lodging, and on and on. I have never used a love motel, but I always pour the drink, and never let that drink out of my sight, and stay with 1-2 drinks tops. But for the most part I try to stay with putas who come reccomended by other mongers, finally always best to have a wingman whenever possible, and that has kept it safe for me. However that risk is there for sure. We hear so many of these incidents ever year, and I am sure many fold of that go unreported for a variety of reasons.

[Villainy]

I have heard that tinder is the worst in that drugging is what some of them do.

I think the only safe way to monger in Colombia is to use the Casa's. Yes I know it is hard to get GFE there but it is by far the safest method to get a hot girl.

The main thing in my thoughts is getting drugged is certainly terrible with the expense and all the inconveince of losing phones and money. It can also kill you if they use a stong dose. Don't expect them to worry about your health as they rip you off.

There are several ways to protect yourself. One option is to stay at a hotel that is girl friendly but actually checks the girl's cedula (which protects you from other issues) and then verifies it and records the information or scans it.

There are quite a few such hotels but they are not the cheapest ones to be sure.

Alternatively, if that doesn't fit your budget or mindset. Meet your girl at a love hotel. One of the better ones is Thematic (they have two locations in Medellin) and there are several others as well. At Thematic you pay for your room and when the girl arrives you go into the room and it is locked electronically! You can't leave. When you are all good and done. You call reception and they have a person check the mini-bar from the other side of the wall and you pay through an opening for anything you used. After that is taken care of, they buzz the door open an you and your chica can leave. When you call reception they want to speak to the guy. If the chica drugs you she knows she can't get out of the damn room.

I made it a habit to take girls I met for the first time to one of these types of hotels. Sure it is more costly, so if you are on a shoestring budget, follow John Gault's advice and go mining for gold in the casas. Or there is always the severely overpriced 'Mansion'.

I made it a habit when I was staying at a place that didn't record cedula information to take my first time dates to a love-motel. Once I knew them and if I wanted to see them again, then I might bring them to my room.

[Mojo Bandit]

I never had a problem with Facebook girls. That and I always stay at places that record and electronically scan the cedulas. Along with a phone call to make sure you are ok when she is leaving

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Yes that is exactly my point, with a Facebook chica you can get a better feel by looking at their profile where a Tinder is just a few photos. A Facebook page shows evidence of time accumulating photos etc, Sho tinder is just easier to be dodgy. The ID thing and doorman is also what I do but I was thinking the way the Tall Man told the story I do not think his building had security and obviously did not get cedula from the chica. But that is my recommendation you can get GFE and its a secure situation.

[Mojo Bandit]

Medellin is a bit quiet. Traffic was not bad. My taxi guy tells me the white taxis are permitted to drive 1 day and then have 4 days off. So he's driving his own care also to make extra. Money.

Waiting on my high school sweetheart now.

ColombiaLover you need to delete some messages before they will allow you to receive any more messages. I have a message ready to send, I think you will like it.

[Combo]

This is CRITICAL to understand. Present yourself as nearly as financially impotent as they are. Negotiate and low-ball everything. Say "no" even when you could easily say yes. Hint around at freebees, or just hanging out, even though you're unlikely to get one. Its managing expectations. Tell them outright "ya no tango dinero". They "get it", everyone they know is broke, flat broke.

They come back expecting and accepting less. Demand and be clear about what you want. 12 minutes mechanical penetration with a condom is not good enough. (unless its a rare, irresistible trophy hottie in a sala or club. And prepare to be disappointed) Almost no one is irresistible anymore. Satisfaction trumps fantasy.

Do not have 5 million pesos "hidden"(yeah right) in your apartment. Then invite an unknown, potentially psychotic or calculating teenager from a culture that you don't understand, over for drinks.

A love hotel is what? 4 mil-90 mil peso for 3 hours. The math there is brutally obvious. I'm glad this guy was rescued. He was damned lucky to have an alert support network however small. But that was so careless and foolish its jaw dropping.

It's never a good idea to convey that you have money to burn. But this is hard for new mongers to understand coming from the US or Europe where they've been conditioned to show off their wealth in order to attract women.

[SpiderRider]

Many have confided in me and told me, that they all think gringos are stupid, rich, and wasteful with money. I can easily see why they think that after spending 3 years here mongering.

This is CRITICAL to understand. Present yourself as nearly as financially impotent as they are. Negotiate and low-ball everything. Say "no" even when you could easily say yes. Hint around at freebees, or just hanging out, even though you're unlikely to get one. Its managing expectations. Tell them outright "ya no tango dinero". They "get it", everyone they know is broke, flat broke.

They come back expecting and accepting less. Demand and be clear about what you want. 12 minutes mechanical penetration with a condom is not good enough. (unless its a rare, irresistible trophy hottie in a sala or club. And prepare to be disappointed) Almost no one is irresistible anymore. Satisfaction trumps fantasy.

Giving money for nothing... gifts, loans, bail-outs, emergencies... do it if your spirit moves you... but it is not a strategy. Doing it garners no admiration, respect, or loyalty.. especially from a person substantially younger that has no clue what money is or how it appears in someones life.

Do not have 5 million pesos "hidden"(yeah right) in your apartment. Then invite an unknown, potentially psychotic or calculating teenager, from a fucking phone app, and from a culture that you don't understand, over for drinks.

A love hotel is what? 4 mil-90 mil peso for 3 hours. The math there is brutally obvious. I'm glad this guy was rescued. He was damned lucky to have an alert support network however small. But that was so careless and foolish its jaw dropping.

[Combo]

I never had a problem with Facebook girls. That and I always stay at places that record and electronically scan the cedulas. Along with a phone call to make sure you are ok when she is leaving

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Yup. That is your best defense. Stay at hotels or apartments that have this policy. Talk to the door staff to make sure they don't let a girl leave w / o speaking with you first. When making conversation with the girl, I typically tell them that I like staying in this building because of their policies and the safety it provides.

FWIW, some of these girls may not appreciate the severity of what they are doing. If you happen to be taking other drugs that have an interaction with what they slip you, you could die. Or if they just give you too much.

The vast majority of the girls we deal with in MDE come from extremely poor areas. And with the economic devastation that Covid has caused, there will be even more desperate people. Don't make yourself a juicy target.

[Poster99]

Sorry, can't find the post (s) about this. Closest and nicest hourly hotel to Envigado?

[Surfer500]

I sure hope SJobs has a notepad and a polaroid camera next to the jacuzzi...The suspense is killing me!.

Maybe one of two possibilities.

1. Slapshot was an illusion, a figment of our imagination and a frustrated fiction writer in his late forties living in his parent's basement living in Chicago spinning tales about his exploits in Colombia and how he would return including saying that he bought dozens of tickets for flights, was consulting with attorneys, and boasting about his brain power and his physical stamina and abruptly got kicked to the curb a few day's ago by his folks for being such a loser. OR.

2. Upon arrival in Medellin, and I wouldn't want to be a fly on the wall witnessing all this, but he booked a dozen of his 18 year old cheerleaders and it has been overwhelming for him between the cheerleaders sitting on his face all time, while cheering him on too blow loads in the squad every few hours while under the influence of Tussi, Pot, Cocaine, and booze. He most probably has road rash on his Johnson and is in a "fucking daze" and a trance, kind of like one of the Sacalero Zombies in El Centro yet in a Penthouse in Poblado.

[IamLookin]

I never had a problem with Facebook girls. That and I always stay at places that record and electronically scan the cedulas. Along with a phone call to make sure you are ok when she is leaving

I have heard that tinder is the worst in that drugging is what some of them do.

I think the only safe way to monger in Colombia is to use the Casa's. Yes I know it is hard to get GFE there but it is by far the safest method to get a hot girl.

The main thing in my thoughts is getting drugged is certainly terrible with the expense and all the inconveince of losing phones and money. It can also kill you if they use a stong dose. Don't expect them to worry about your health as they rip you off.

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[Paulie97]

I have heard that tinder is the worst in that drugging is what some of them do.

I think the only safe way to monger in Colombia is to use the Casa's. Yes I know it is hard to get GFE there but it is by far the safest method to get a hot girl.

The main thing in my thoughts is getting drugged is certainly terrible with the expense and all the inconveince of losing phones and money. It can also kill you if they use a stong dose. Don't expect them to worry about your health as they rip you off.

This of course has been said before, but these are great screening tools as your typical girl out for a big score through crime isn't going to show. There's the front desk, and though that didn't stop the girl from the story of Tall Man's friend, there's the added factor that the customer is only liable to have a cheap phone and the room and sex money on him, thus no big score.

Be safe guys.

[John Gault]

I share this experience as a cautionary tale to let guys know to be mindful and careful:

So my good gringo friend whom I speak to throughout the day, almost everyday, went MIA at about 4PM this past Monday. I tried to reach him on Tuesday mid morning and again tried throughout Tuesday afternoon but his whatsapp messages were never opened and telephone calls to his phone went to voicemail.

Out of character and I knew something was wrong so called my good paisa buddy in the early evening (last night) and we took a drive over to his apartment, got there at about 9 PM and spoke to the portero about our concerns. He has not seen him all day but did tell us that he had a chica visitor the night before and that he saw her leave at about 11 PM on Monday.

The portero allowed us into the edifico and we headed straight to his apartment, after about one minute of banging on his door and yelling his name the door opened and he was clearly in bad shape, slurring his words, stumbling, almost incoherent at times, his pants were full of piss, some dried and some more recently wet, no shirt, with a look of a deer in the headlight. Yes he was drugged by a new Tinder girl whom he invited over to his apartment at about 10 PM on Monday evening.

He had no idea that it was 24 hours later, this was Tuesday night now and he had been in a drugged induced state for 24 hours.

She shared a drink with him, he does not drink, and evidently within a period of 20 minutes she drugged him and he remembers falling asleep.

She stole 2 cell phones and at least 3 million pesos that he had in his closet hidden, so she ransacked through his stuff. I am glad to see him and that he is alive.

I will pick him up today at about noon and get him a new cell phone and try to determine what else is missing. Surprisingly she did not go through his jean pockets which he was wearing when she drugged him as his front pocket had a wad of almost 2 million and his other front pocket had his bank cards in it.

I will learn more today but from what I know is that she was hounding him aggressively for the past week wanting to get with him.

Be careful and always stay aware.

BTW, his personality tends to be trusting and I keep warning him about this. These are bitches, these are working girls, these are thieves, these are scum, yes many appear to be sweet and nice and great fucks but never let your guard completely down, don't get complacent. Find them and fuck them but understand what they are.

Be safe and much love and respect to all!

The Tall Man.

I have heard that tinder is the worst in that drugging is what some of them do.

I think the only safe way to monger in Colombia is to use the Casa's. Yes I know it is hard to get GFE there but it is by far the safest method to get a hot girl.

The main thing in my thoughts is getting drugged is certainly terrible with the expense and all the inconveince of losing phones and money. It can also kill you if they use a stong dose. Don't expect them to worry about your health as they rip you off.

[Member #4665]

I share this experience as a cautionary tale to let guys know to be mindful and careful:

Thanks for sharing. I hope your friend feels better. I agree it's a dangerous world. This is completely illegal criminal activity by the woman and the innocent people were poisoned can suffer severe consequence due to the illegal substance. If you can, please keep us updated. What sort of precautions do you guys take?

- Always keep an eye on your drinks and food. If you go to the bathroom and leave your drink in the living room when you come back say you are not thirsty anymore. Also be careful with poisoned cigarettes the criminal may have.

- When the girl arrives receive her at the gate and make sure the guard knows the girl cannot leave herself but you have to walk her from your apartment out of the gate. Tell the guard If she tries to leave alone to stop her and call the police.

- Keep all your belongings inside the apartment inside a locked bag. Don't keep any money inside the apartment.

- Before the meeting make sure you have the girls phone number, her real name, and hopefully her Public Facebook profile. Ask her to see her ID to verify she is over 18 and verify her real name is on the ID.

- Save all Facebook and seeking chats and save all her pictures.

- Only date women that have good references or reviews in the forum.

Last of all I understand a lot of these girls are working girls. But maybe there are some that are not so poor that poverty does not make them violent. And maybe some of these girls are ordinary women with good intentions? Maybe some are good people? The girl you describe in your post definitely a very Dangerous criminal.

[Woodman09]

ColombiaLover. I just happen to see The Tall Man's report about his friend getting scopolamine poisoned by a Tinder Chica. Ang then immediately after you are saying you are seeing a new Tinder chica< be very careful and dude if you need to see new chicas, Hit me up in a PM for some FB contacts instead of messing with these unknowns.

I have been reading on Medellin groups on FaceBook about Tinder girls drugging guys in MDE.