Bangkok Reports

[NicFrenchy]

Remind me again who wrote this

Missed the point of your post

[Fon Tok]

have so much time on my hand that I take things slower than a turtle. -- As some will attest it could take months before I decide to take them. Now that's picky!

You are a true man of leisure! That is the privilege of experience and living in Thailand. Well done!

[Mealticket]

I won't talk about price

Interesting modus operundi considering your talking w / a saleswomen.

Ps just so everything else knows (especially you new bees) , this is EXTREMELY poor advice; ALWAYS agree upon "how much" before you begin the "walk of shame"

[Mr Enternational]

I used to think and do the same, but then over the years I have changed. I do not discuss prices and just Go with the Flow. Sometimes discussing price just breaks the mood.

I have learned to go with the flow as well. I won't talk about price unless the girl brings it up first. This has never failed me since I have taken on the philosophy. Afterwards they are always grateful for what I gave them, and I'm a Cheap Charlie. As for ST / LT, there is no need for discussion as well. My automatic default is ST during the day and up until 9pm and LT if I picked her up from 9pm to 6am (unless it's an SW with whom I usually only want one shot).

[LittleBigMan]

are you sure? or just very good photoshop.

nic do you really pay 2k st 4k lt, just seems overpriced to me.

jerboa,

if you review his post he never said 4k lt, even if he did that is drop in the bucket for a guy that is living and bringing in six figures at month. from what i read this guy might be throwing his weight around but not the baht.

his style is sound for a guy in his position. i myself never bring up the topic of st / lt unless the girl does. i have so much time on my hand that i take things slower than a turtle. it isn't just chemistry but i interview them during the time i spend with them just through general conversation and not making a decision during the time they are [CodeWord125] me in the chair. there are many times when we get back to the room i feel i'm [CodeWord125] them and that isn't something i like to do. as some will attest it could take months before i decide to take them. now that's picky!

[Boater Boy]

Apologies about the poor choice of word. I wanted to stir the pot a little, not offend anyone.

Bangkok can be as expensive or as Cheap as you want it to be.

CHEAP OPTION: stay in a moderate hotel, use Streetwalkers and freelancers (500 1, 000 ST) or Chinatown (300 ST)

MODERATE OPTION: Stay in Moderate Hotel, use BG7, Small Beer Bars (1, 000 ST)

REGULAR OPTION: Stay in a 2, 500 thb hotel, use Nana or Cowboy or Any Oily or soapy (min 1, 500 ST + barfine or massage fee)

EXPENSIVE OPTION: Stay in a 4 star, use Nana or Cowboy, buy drinks, go to model class soapies.

VERY EXPENSIVE OPTION: Go to a G club, and spend 10, 000 thb, go home alone.

Hi Nic,

Firstly thankyou for all of your informative quotes. I wanted to ask you a question that has bugged me for a few years.

I probably fall into the REGULAR / EXPENSIVE band here. I can easily see that some of the ladies, total stunners, can charge 3, 000 thb for LT and that if she is not quite such a beauty she may charge 2, 000 thb.

What does confuse me is the huge range of Barfines. I paid 500 thb a few days ago at The Cabin. On my first trip to BKK I paid 1, 500 (if I remember correctly) at Livingstones. And other bars have charges prices anywhere in between.

I tend to stay safe and only go to "nice" bars and in reality they are all pleasant places to spend a few hours.

So why the big difference, any ideas?

BB

[NicFrenchy]

Five shots in a night?

WTF are you eating man?

Not every night, but it's very possible.

I won't name names, but there is a Regular member here that can make that in a 2 hours session. And that I can't do.

I can do 3 in the evening and 2 in the morning. Then I have to rest for 3 days

[Mouse1]

Yes I do if the girl performs well (and for me it's 2 shots) and LT is about 5 shots.

Remind me again who wrote this:

Sorry but I am not a fan of fucking just for the sake of fucking. And Doing 4 shots in a row, the 4th shot is painful as very hard to cum and very little "Feeling".

Now that's what I call dedication to the hobby above and beyond.

[Luvpuss]

Yes I do if the girl performs well (and for me it's 2 shots) and LT is about 5 shots.

But I rarely go to the bars, I find them boring.

Five shots in a night?

WTF are you eating man?

[NicFrenchy]

Nic do you really pay 2k ST 4k LT, just seems overpriced to me.

Yes I do if the girl performs well (and for me it's 2 shots) and LT is about 5 shots.

But I rarely go to the bars, I find them boring.

[Der Tourist]

I used to think and do the same, but then over the years I have changed. I do not discuss prices and just Go with the Flow. Sometimes discussing price just breaks the mood. I don't know how to explain that but if you go to a gogo and have great fun with a girl, then have to bicker for 20mn about the services she has to offer and how long she's going to stay. With the language barrier. Forget it.

No matter what you agree beforehand, if she wants to leave early, she will, if she does not want to do Anal anymore, she won't and there is nothing you can do about that. Except try to argue and then the drama will start.

For me, the best way is to Go with the Flow, you see the girl you like. You barfine her and then take her to the hotel. You may discuss ST or LT but Always better to do ST and if she's good, then ask her to stay the night.

If you negotiate LT and the girl sucks. You're fucked. Or you have to kick her out early.

My pricing is always 2, 000 ST and 3, 000 LT (I give less if the girls were Bad: 1, 500 ST and kick her out, No need for LT there.)

Girls are usually happy with that, no money is discussed, I put it in their purse or pants, they check it and kiss and leave.

But that's just me. Whatever works for you is good.

Good point. I have always been told by friends and read online that one should arrange the price before going with the girl. So I did almost every time when in Bangkok or Phuket. However during my last time in 2009 once I simply forgot to do that with one Rainbow 4 girl. I thought shit what's now. And, well, nothing. Of course, I asked her at the end before she left my hotel room and the answer was "up to you" which means I gave her 2000 for ST.

I don't mind asking beforehead and many girls would just tell you the price anyway (sometimes they do it kind of automatically as a routine) but sometimes it may just feel a little uncomfortable if they don't say the price by their initiative. Especially if you're trying to play a nice guy. If you see that the girl is nice and she seems to like you then it's probably a good idea not to ask the price or at least not directly and just leave it for the best chance if not until the very end. Good point about the LT and negotiation. It's good not to get obliged to go LT because sometimes it may happen that you'll want to change your mind. And if you leave more leverage to yourself by not specifying that you want LT and the girl is good then you may have a better chance to make her stay LT and perhaps even get better service. Anyway, I think we completely agree on this topic. .

[Syzygies]

Some people here were saying that one has to pay 4000 baht (not including the barfine and lady drinks) for a LT session with an attractive girl in Bangkok and implying that the punters who are paying less are "cheapos". Some ISG members wrote that people who are not willing to pay as much as them end up with "ugly girls". I'm tired of reading those ridiculous, derogative and (mostly) untrue statements (some people have, IMHO, a poor taste in girls, but quite often, it's not related with the amount of money spent). The locals pay much less than that for (on average) more attractive women. As foreigners, it's normal that we pay a bit more for similar quality as our girls usually can speak at least some basic English and above all, they often perform better (I would say that paying about 25% more than the locals is reasonable). But we should not pay twice as them or more, especially for girls that are much less attractive, older, fatter, have stretch marks, etc.

Some of the implications you are reading in do not seem that logical. They seem rather extreme beyond the bounds.

Its fine if you get a good looking girl for a cheap price. I heard of girls going to discos in Ratchada to sell themselves for just 500 Baht. Doesn't mean you have to knock back a georgous girl, just because she was slightly dearer. You want the cheapest or you want the best, or a compromise?

There is obviously a great variation in what appeals to different guys. I see a lot of Farangs going with girls that don't appeal to me at all. Yes many many working girls look really plain / average. Very few are really pretty to stunning IMHO. Its not fair to call all the average/plain girls "ugly".

I admit to taking girls that are not quite magnficently pretty, if they have hotish bodies. Yes lots of punters are doing this and calling the girls very pretty. I am not so delusional that I don't know that my girl is not really stunning. Its hard to find the really pretty ones available at short notice. There are a fair number of girls with acceptable looks (not plain). Still many Farangs take the ones that are plain to my taste. Others have found super girls from somewhere.

Clearly evaluating looks is just a matter of opinion, but can anyone deny that there are lots of girls that are just average or not that interesting? They can't all be hot! I still think the super hot and pretty girls are unlikely to come at rock bottom prices. They would have to be dumb not to realise that they are in demand.

I do absolutely agree you can do better for price based on the location you go to find the girls. I go to Thai Soapies too, so I know what the Thai men are going for (and I don't always go for it too). Thais like fake looks more than I do.

Look I must be really picky, because I have been into many bars with Coyote dancers and found only a small percentage of these to be pretty. I appreciate that some guys out there are just not that fussy with face looks. I admit I often go with girls that look pleasant rather than really pretty, but I would take the really pretty one if one was available and reasonable chemistry. I got a quite pretty one in Midnite the other day and had a fantastic time. She wanted slightly more than average ST but no problem, as I considered she was definitely a cut well above the normal girls, and turned out to be really hot for it too.

Sorry if I am raving. To make my opinion real clear. I don't believe one price fits all. If I believe a girl is really special, I am prepared to pay a bit more. I am surprised that some would give up a super girl just because she wants a percentage more. I can see everyone has price limits based on what they can afford. I also do not take girls if I think the price is ridiculous and they are just not worth it.

[Jerboa]

There are plenty of 9's and 10's about. Trouble is they all advertise on web sites that charge 6k a pop.

If you're like me (midle aged and ugly) be thankful for what you can get.

Are you sure? Or just very good photoshop.

Funny how a few cheapos can influence the newbies and lure them into Thinking BKK is a Cheap Paradise. Then the said Newbies arrive in NaNa and Cowboy and is in for a rude Awakening:

Drinks@150.

Barfines at 600 to 900 (Baccara early)

ST@2000 For 1 shot

LT@4000 And the girl tries to pull a "friend needs me so I leave after 3 hours" scam.

In my opinion, there is ST to be had in BKK for 1000 (even 300 if you want) but not in the bars. Go to BG7 or Nana Car Park.

If you are on a tight budget, I suggest you avoid Patpong, Cowboy, Nana.

Get your Drinks and Food@7/11 and pull girls from Beergarden or Nana Carpark or Sukh Streetwalkers.

Nic do you really pay 2k ST 4k LT, just seems overpriced to me.

[Syzygies]

In Thai go-go bars, the modus operandi is indeed different (and you have to make your choice early or almost immediately go to another establishment if you haven't seen someone attractive enough when you entered the place), but it's rather interesting (IMHO) for the punters who can speak at least some basic Thai and who know the ropes, especially if they want to pick up an attractive girl for a long-time session.

Why is it necessary to choose so quickly? I can speak Thai but I like to have time to observe before I decide if I like anyone enough. What if you choose and the chemistry is not good? I do speak Thai just fine.

[Rocksoff]

I mostly agree with you. My experience is just that it's mostly a myth that the local Thai places in Bangkok are much cheaper or have prettier girls than the farang-oriented places.

In Thai go-go bars, the modus operandi is indeed different (and you have to make your choice early or almost immediately go to another establishment if you haven't seen someone attractive enough when you entered the place),

Yes. And it's much less convenient to get a quick overview.

but it's rather interesting (IMHO) for the punters who can speak at least some basic Thai and who know the ropes

Absolutely.

and the drinks are much cheaper on average in the places patronized by the locals.

Not really if you want to go to a few different bars. You can get a big beer for 120b or so, or you can get a bottle of whisky, I think the cheapest won't be less than 600b. So it's cheaper if you want to stay in one place and drink.

But that was not my main point. Some people here were saying that one has to pay 4000 baht (not including the barfine and lady drinks) for a LT session with an attractive girl in Bangkok and implying that the punters who are paying less are "cheapos". Some ISG members wrote that people who are not willing to pay as much as them end up with "ugly girls". I'm tired of reading those ridiculous, derogative and (mostly) untrue statements (some people have, IMHO, a poor taste in girls, but quite often, it's not related with the amount of money spent).

With these sentiments I fully agree.