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10-18-14 06:19 #15400
Posts: 765USA Legal mumbo jumbo about sex with someone under 16/18 years of age anywhere
Originally Posted by hioctane [View Original Post]
many states in the usa have the legal age of consent as low as 16 years of age. a few 17 years and some 18 years of age. the main point in the federal legal jargon is the word paying. if you are not paying for sex with a person where it is legal to have sex with persons under 18 years, then you have not committed any crimes in that country and the usa.
the age of consent really is not the point here. the confusion lies in how you read this law. legal mumbo-jumbo goes around in circles and is easy to misread if you're not used to reading it. everyone.
so far has completely ignored the key term here; "interstate or foreign commerce". if a person is travelling in "foreign commerce", then he or she is going to another country for the purpose of conducting business. likewise, someone travelling in "interstate commerce" is travelling to another state to conduct some kind of business. now, with that in mind, lets discuss the 2 parts of this statute.
part (a) is simple. anyone who transports a minor (under 18) to another state or country for the purpose of having that person engage in any kind of sexual "business", such as prostitution, has violated this code and committed a crime.
part (b) is a little more complex but essentially it says that if you travel across state or international lines for the purpose of paying for a sex act (defined in chapter 109 a, subsection 2246, (basically, penetration, oral sex, intercourse)) with a minor (in this case minor may mean under 16 or 18, depending on the specific act), and if the sex act you are paying for is considered a crime under chapter 109 a, subsection 2241-2245 (basically, [CodeWord123], sexual assault, statutory [CodeWord123] (under 16)), then you have committed a crime. you are also guilty if you aren't the one travelling but are a conspirator in the crime. an example would be if you sold people trips overseas for the purpose of having them pay for sex with minors (in this case, under 16).
nothing in this law, i repeat, nothing keeps you from having consensual sex with someone under 18, as long as it's not against the local laws, under the age of consent where you are, and you're not paying the person (or being paid yourself) if the person is under the age of 16. i want to be clear on this, if you are in a country where the age of consent is 14, then you can have consensual sex with that person, you just can't pay to have sex with a 14 year old while you're there.
usa state, age of consent, age gap provision* , mistake of age defense*.
alabama 16 yes no.
alaska 16 yes yes.
arizona 18 no yes.
arkansas 16 no yes.
california 18 no no.
colorado 17 yes no.
connecticut 16 yes no.
the. see. 16 yes no.
delaware 18 yes no.
florida 18 yes no.
georgia 16 yes no.
hawaii 16 yes no.
idaho 18 yes no.
illinois 17 no no.
indiana 16 no yes.
iowa 16 yes no.
kansas 16 no no.
kentucky 16 yes yes.
louisiana 17 yes no.
maine 16 yes yes.
maryland 16 yes no.
massachusetts 16 no no.
michigan 16 no no.
minnesota 16 yes no.
mississippi 16 yes no.
missouri 17 no yes.
montana 16 yes yes.
nebraska 17 no no.
nevada 16 no no.
new hampshire 16 yes no.
new jersey 16 yes no.
new mexico 17 yes no.
new york 17 no yes.
north carolina 16 yes no.
north dakota 18 no no.
ohio 16 no no.
oklahoma 16 yes no.
oregon 18 yes no.
pennsylvania 16 yes yes.
rhode island 16 no no.
south carolina 16 no no.
south dakota 16 no no.
tennessee 18 yes no.
texas 17 no no.
utah 18 yes no.
vermont 16 yes no.
virginia 18 no no.
washington 16 yes yes.
west virginia 16 yes yes.
wisconsin 18 no no.
wyoming 18 yes yes.
* note: some state laws make the age gap less of a crime but still consider it criminal activity that can be prosecuted. where this is the case we have listed 'no'.
** note: in the absence of an affirmative or negative, we have presumed. the answer to be no. also, some states only allow mistake of age above a certain age.
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10-18-14 05:46 #15399
Posts: 1087Yo
Originally Posted by ResetButton [View Original Post]
Print this map and take it w / you on your El Centro adventure, the address system is screwy so go early and you'll have time to figure it out.
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=e...4d4&dg=feature
The area around New Life casa is easy to navigate, plus the 2 strip clubs, Ejecutiva and Maracaibo are nearby for late afternoon entertainment, low end but safe and fun.
The Parque Boliviar is an interesting bustling place in the day time. Here is the door to New Life, my guess is it's still a nondescript blue door.
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10-18-14 04:03 #15398
Posts: 21Originally Posted by ResetButton [View Original Post]
BD
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10-18-14 03:20 #15397
Posts: 2927Originally Posted by ResetButton [View Original Post]
You can also ask the front desk for a casa map (if they still provide them).
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10-18-14 01:28 #15396
Posts: 1137Originally Posted by ResetButton [View Original Post]
This would most likely be your best bet. Although, it's fairly easy to do it yourself. Just get the names and addresses of the casas and take a taxi. That's all there is to it. For the downtown casas, you can easily walk from one to the others.
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10-17-14 23:12 #15395
Posts: 2Casa / Strip Club Tours from hotel M?
Gentlemen,
I'm going to be in Medellin for the first time from 10/19 - 10/24 and am staying at Hotel M. I'm guessing I'm going to spend a lot of time in La Cueva but would like to check out the strip clubs / casas and pull some girls back to my room from there. Are there any organized tours that hit these spots from Hotel M or is my best bet to ask around at the hotel and hopefully find someone willing to show me around?
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10-17-14 21:49 #15394
Posts: 1013Originally Posted by CJackSparrow [View Original Post]
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10-17-14 21:43 #15393
Posts: 1013Originally Posted by LifeIsABeach [View Original Post]
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10-17-14 18:33 #15392
Posts: 360Originally Posted by SavePros321 [View Original Post]
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10-17-14 17:55 #15391
Posts: 20Originally Posted by HelpRules [View Original Post]
One favorable thing vs 2011 is the exchange rate. I recall at times it dipped down to 1750-ish pesos to the dollar around that time period. It is now once again firmly above 2000, about 2050 pesos to the dollar, which is the best it has been in at least five years.
There are new MPs and MPs that have changed hands. Also some reorganization among the strip clubs and a couple new ones, including one "upscale" one in Lleras owned by the Bar Maracaibo guys. Some of the new MPs are cool, just hit the Centro and start walking to find them (using the map is also helpful).
Overall you will find a city that is gaining conveniences (but also gaining traffic, both in terms of roads and tourism). It won't be a lot different from your last trip three years ago overall though.
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10-17-14 17:10 #15390
Posts: 2927Originally Posted by HelpRules [View Original Post]
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...-LIQUID-STRIP-.
Last we heard is that they have closed the club and the other owners are selling the assets.
If you are talking about La Cueva a*k*a "The Cave" (the bar at the mansion), it has been a success IMO (I have stayed there a few times and was never disappointed with the selection available). The only thing that has changed is the owner (Robert left; new owner is a guy named Charlie).
The Mansion, a*k*a "Casa Blanca", a*k*a "Hotel Medellin Plaza" is now called "Hotel M".
Other than maybe a few casa closures and name changes, everything is the same.
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10-17-14 16:41 #15389
Posts: 179Originally Posted by BlackPage [View Original Post]
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10-17-14 14:44 #15388
Posts: 360I haven't been on the forum for quite a while. What happened to all the posts about the club that was opened by one of the owners of the mansion. Did they close down. Is Medellin better or about the same from 2011, which was the last time I went. Any new places that are now popular.
Thanks
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10-17-14 06:32 #15387
Posts: 765Age of legal consent for sex in Colombia is 14 years
Originally Posted by BlackPage [View Original Post]
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10-17-14 05:39 #15386
Posts: 252Cheap sex
Originally Posted by FruitNinja [View Original Post]
Me: Vic, if you want to meet women you should go to the Dominican Republic.
Boss: But Jose, you're paying for sex.
Me: Cheaper than a wife! (five seconds of silence).
Boss: You got that right!