Medellin Reports

[Surfer500]

Shut up fng. Only 2 posts and you criticize a real member.The girl seemed okay with his offer. You don't know these girls. They don't see gringos as scammers, the guy wasn't even scamming anyone. They see gringos as moneybags to be scammed. They will eat you alive if you try and be a Capn Savaho. So when you see a guy talking about developing his game be happy someone is sharing good info. .

There's a lot of ways to skin a cat and he could of gotten the same results in a completely different way.

As far as the girls not seeing gringos as scammers, well they actually see gringos as walking ATM machines!

[Crazy Jim Wood]

Shut up fng. Only 2 posts and you criticize a real member.The girl seemed okay with his offer. You don't know these girls. They don't see gringos as scammers, the guy wasn't even scamming anyone. So he negotiated a deal that he was not serious about. Plenty of people cancel on deals they are serious about. The girls are used to it. They see gringos as moneybags to be scammed. They will eat you alive if you try and be a Capn Savaho. So when you see a guy talking about developing his game be happy someone is sharing good info.

I agree that that was stupid and it was foolish of him playing on poor and desperate people. Remember they do what they do because they don't have any choice.

[You Can]

Let's get back to trip reports and fun. I don't speak espanol and I am find traveling. Is everyone cut out for it no. I am street smart, yes I can order from a all Spanish menu I do it all the time. Sometimes it can be funny because I fuck up and look and go what the fuck is this? Also most restaurants and bars have wifi so it helps to get connected because you can use your tranlator if you have no Spanish. That can help someone. But sure it be great to be fluent in all languages but for me it's not going to happen.

I been in all kind of situations and ended up making my way through them even with illegal situations.

Medellin is a big city, some people you could drop off in Mannhatten and they would be lost even speaking English.

You just need to want to travel and fucking do it.

Fuck worrying about Spanish. Try to learn basic stuff and get on a fucking plane and travel. That's what I do.

Ok, the scenarios you described can happen anywhere you travel where the primary language is other than your own, even the sexual tourism locations, especially once you venture out of the tourist zone. Obviously learning the language is a good thing to do anywhere you go, but it's not absolutely necessary and you are not doomed if you don't, even in Medellin. Like Mr E said, you wouldn't be able to travel anywhere if that was the prerequisite. Although Medellin still isn't English friendly, there have been info available online about this place for over a decade. Many trip reports have been written about where to go and not to go. If your language skills are lacking and you have problems reading a menu there are ways around it, this is 2016, LOL.

Anyways, that's my view and I can respect the other opinions on the subject based on your experience. We don't have to agree on everything. Most important thing is that you do your research (RTFF), be respectful, be careful and have a good time, can we at least agree on that, LOL!

[Black Page]

Even a semi-pro will freak out if you're staying at the Mansion.

A true "kiss of death".

[PickCherry12]

Real class act.

It's scumbags like you that turn the chicas into thinking all gringos are scamming douchebags.

I agree that that was stupid and it was foolish of him playing on poor and desperate people. Remember they do what they do because they don't have any choice.

[Combo]

Spending a few hours with a non-pro is called a date. Can you get a regular date in the USA (or wherever you are from)? If not, forget about getting a woman to go out with you in Colombia. If you are referring to several hours or overnight with money involved, then you are talking about a professional. If a women takes money for sex, she is a pro. But if semi-pro, or non-pro, is some kind of justification for you, so be it.

If you can get a regular woman to go on a date with you at home, and you speak pretty good Spanish, you should be able to get a date in Colombia. But if you are staying at the Mansion or Parque LLeras, you probably won't a regular woman to agree to it once she figures out that you are a working girl monger.

Yup. If you're after a non-pro or even a semi-pro and you're staying at the Mansion, you're going to need to pay for additional accommodations for those nights. Even a semi-pro will freak out if you're staying at the Mansion. FWIW I would define a semi-pro as a girl that does this very rarely and prefers to do it under cover of "dating. ".

[Queens35]

So this morning I tried something completely different. I changed my location to Cartagena on Tinder. I found the Cartagena Tinder, as has been reported in the past, is flooded with working girls.

Instead of the usual mister naive nice guy I like to play, I decided to be a complete asshole and see how far I could get. I told her right of the bat to shut up (callate), she sent back a "jajaja soy dame de campania" to which I sarcastically told her I was surprised to hear. I proceeded to tell her I had a jacuzzi waiting in Medellin and wanted to fly her out. I told her all expenses will be paid and I would give her a good sum of money (did not mention how much). I didn't even wait for a response. I told her I would do her "sin condom" the entire two weeks she would be with and not to argue. I expected her to unmatch. Instead she sent me her whatsapp number and told me she's game.

In Whatsapp I asked her for a cedula number so I could book her on the Avianca flight. She sent me a photo of her ID which shocked me even more.

I unmatched her and blocked her on whatsapp. Honestly, I was surprised any of that worked but being hyper aggressive and just generally an asshole gets results?

Real class act.

It's scumbags like you that turn the chicas into thinking all gringos are scamming douchebags.

[Queens35]

Personally, I enjoy spending a few hours or overnight with the non-pros or the semi-pros.

Spending a few hours with a non-pro is called a date. Can you get a regular date in the USA (or wherever you are from)? If not, forget about getting a woman to go out with you in Colombia. If you are referring to several hours or overnight with money involved, then you are talking about a professional. If a women takes money for sex, she is a pro. But if semi-pro, or non-pro, is some kind of justification for you, so be it.

If you can get a regular woman to go on a date with you at home, and you speak pretty good Spanish, you should be able to get a date in Colombia. But if you are staying at the Mansion or Parque LLeras, you probably won't a regular woman to agree to it once she figures out that you are a working girl monger.

[YippieKayay]

My first stop is Bogota, landing on a Friday afternoon, was the only direct flight from Toronto, so am going to spend the weekend there, then head to a different city. The cities that I want to cover are Bogota, Medellin, Cali and (maybe) Cartagena. I will be booking one way flights within the cities they are about $40 Canadian dollars (1 $ = 2200 COP), and am ok with booking flights and hotels / Airbnb's at the last minute. I don't want to have a set itinerary, in case I like / dislike one city and want to stay there longer / shorter.

I booked my Airbnb ahead of time for MDE. The nice apartments are booked solid in November. I was lucky and found a nice place 5 minutes from parque lleras. Travelling in a couple of weeks a well.

[Java Man]

A competing forum held a Halloween Party last night in the Poblado area. Lot of talent and eye candy, and some great sexy costumes. Supposedly, chicas from the casitas and strip bars were present, but a few I talked to were semi-pro Freelancers. Hooked up with a super cute, twenty-something Hottie. Great ass on this girl, Back at the apartment, got GFE and BBBJ from her. The sight of her in doggie, Ass Up, OMG! Centerfold quality!! Yummy Girl, got to repeat with this one.

Walked her out to get a taxi after 4 a. All the area bars and clubs had closed. Everyone and their cousin were on the streets. Saw lots of Great costumes too. It was a zoo. There were not enough cabs. And some of the taxi's were refusing fares. Food stands and one restaurant I visited had run out of food. Even though there are no Haunted Houses, they celebrate Halloween Great here.

[Combo]

I am booked for Colombia for 2+ weeks in mid Nov, and had a couple questions, or more like recommendations. Basically stuff that I wasn't able to find after extensive RTTF. And since I will be staying in MDE for the majority of the time, I am posting in this forum.

I am travelling solo, 34 years old, decent Spanish skills, average salsa / bacahta dancing skills (which I hear is good for the non-pros), and I prefer my girls semi-pro to non-pro, with GFE.

My first stop is Bogota, landing on a Friday afternoon, was the only direct flight from Toronto, so am going to spend the weekend there, then head to a different city. The cities that I want to cover are Bogota, Medellin, Cali and (maybe) Cartagena. I will be booking one way flights within the cities they are about $40 Canadian dollars (1 $ = 2200 COP), and am ok with booking flights and hotels / Airbnb's at the last minute. I don't want to have a set itinerary, in case I like / dislike one city and want to stay there longer / shorter.

-- Question #1 is, since I have 3 weekends to spend in Colombia, which of those cities are better during the week, and which ones deserve a weekend?

-- Second question: Is the weather as cold as it says in Bogota, and as rainy as it says in Medellin? I'm from Canada, so I want the warm weather, which is why I have Cali & Cartagena in mind.

-- 3rd question, I've been reading that getting girls from Facebook is a good idea. How would I add some girls, I. E. Where would I start in finding them? I am getting Tinder + (as recommended by YippieKayay), and other dating apps, so that will help.

Can't think of anything else to ask right now, but feel free to give any recommendations, or anything that might help me.

Thank you for your help, and look forward to providing updated reports during and after my stay.

If you have average Salsa and Bachata skills, you are ahead of most Paisas. Regaetton is much more popular in MDE than Salsa or Bachata. Although in la Cueva (basement of the Mansion), they'll play some Bachata or Salsa here and there to appeal to us visitors. And there are a few decent Salsa clubs near la 70. However, if you try to give the Paisas a cross body lead / dile que no, they're not likely to know what you want them to do.

Medellin is not Cuba, Puerto Rico, or the DR. The quality of dance is generally not high. Cali, however, is a different story (for Salsa, not Bachata). If you want, PM me and I can give you some music / dance ideas for Cali.

If you're looking for nice warm weather, I'd spend more time in MDE and Cali. Cartagena can be scorching hot. I haven't gone to BOG for the same reasons that you listed. It's supposed to be cold and I like nice pleasant weather on vacation. All these cities will have plenty of weekday chica options. However, Bogota, given its size, likely has more way possibilities than the others.

[Ee2002]

This is still bad advice. You are continuing to overlook everything else that happens outside of visiting casas and strip clubs. Can you order from an all Spanish menu? What happens if you drugged and robbed? Do you know how to call the police and explain this to them? Can you describe the physical description of the assailants?

Let's take your example of "oh, you don't need to know any Spanish. Just hand the taxi driver a piece of paper with the address of where you want to go". Knowing a decent amount of Spanish will help you with situational awareness, because if the taxi driver turns to you and says "sure amigo, but we are going to make a detour through my barrio first to pick up my friend because he wants to go as well", then you would have no idea that you are possibly in danger.

You may think the above example may be a wild exaggeration, but there was a Senior Member here (I think it may have been Ricker; I remember that this particular poster would post here and also in the Rio thread) who wrote about bailing out of a taxi mid-trip leaving La Mayorista because the driver was taking a route different than what was asked of him. This particular Senior Member knew the area well and also understood and spoke some Spanish, so he was able to assess the situation and make a judgement call that possible kept him out of danger.

Just imagine the shit you would be in with the opposite.

Ok, the scenarios you described can happen anywhere you travel where the primary language is other than your own, even the sexual tourism locations, especially once you venture out of the tourist zone. Obviously learning the language is a good thing to do anywhere you go, but it's not absolutely necessary and you are not doomed if you don't, even in Medellin. Like Mr E said, you wouldn't be able to travel anywhere if that was the prerequisite. Although Medellin still isn't English friendly, there have been info available online about this place for over a decade. Many trip reports have been written about where to go and not to go. If your language skills are lacking and you have problems reading a menu there are ways around it, this is 2016, LOL.

Anyways, that's my view and I can respect the other opinions on the subject based on your experience. We don't have to agree on everything. Most important thing is that you do your research (RTFF), be respectful, be careful and have a good time, can we at least agree on that, LOL!

[Mr Enternational]

This is still bad advice. You are continuing to overlook everything else that happens outside of visiting casas and strip clubs. Can you order from an all Spanish menu? What happens if you drugged and robbed? Do you know how to call the police and explain this to them? Can you describe the physical description of the assailants?

Let's take your example of "oh, you don't need to know any Spanish.

Hell. I can barely do all of that stuff in English. Been to Vietnam; do not speak Vietnamese. Been to Russia; can only say Hello, and biotch in Russian. Been to Egypt and can not speak any Arabic. Been to a ton of other places without knowing the language. If everyone depended on knowing the local language before going anywhere then nobody would ever go anywhere. Even if you do know the language, that is not going to stop evildoers that wish to do you harm. They are not going to stop with their plans for the simple fact that you can say hey this is not the way to my hotel in the local language.

[You Can]

We all make mistakes! Thanks to owning up to that one. I have definitely made my share. It takes a real man to admit he probably didn't do the right thing.

Thumbs up.

Yes I know. I shouldn't have done it. I was just curious to see how far you could get. To be honest I feel bad because this girl was probably desperate for work. I bet Cartagena is flooded now with Venezuelans and its hard for working girls to find clients regularly.

[SavePros321]

Fair enough, I agree with MDE not being as English friendly as the other places like Thailand and the scene wasn't designed with foreigners in mind. At the same time, if we are just talking about casas and places like San Diego and Face Dos, etc, how much really needs to be said? Agree to the pre set price package, pick a girl and go. If you are there to just screw, not much need to be said especially at the kinds of places I mentioned before. As far as taxis, have the address of the place you want to go handy and give it to the driver, if he doesn't know, move on to someone who does or he will ask another driver how to get there (that was my experience).

This is still bad advice. You are continuing to overlook everything else that happens outside of visiting casas and strip clubs. Can you order from an all Spanish menu? What happens if you drugged and robbed? Do you know how to call the police and explain this to them? Can you describe the physical description of the assailants?

Let's take your example of "oh, you don't need to know any Spanish. Just hand the taxi driver a piece of paper with the address of where you want to go". Knowing a decent amount of Spanish will help you with situational awareness, because if the taxi driver turns to you and says "sure amigo, but we are going to make a detour through my barrio first to pick up my friend because he wants to go as well", then you would have no idea that you are possibly in danger.

You may think the above example may be a wild exaggeration, but there was a Senior Member here (I think it may have been Ricker; I remember that this particular poster would post here and also in the Rio thread) who wrote about bailing out of a taxi mid-trip leaving La Mayorista because the driver was taking a route different than what was asked of him. This particular Senior Member knew the area well and also understood and spoke some Spanish, so he was able to assess the situation and make a judgement call that possible kept him out of danger.

Just imagine the shit you would be in with the opposite.