Medellin Reports

[Queens35]

SMH! Why would you pay in US dollars when you are in Col? This the is the problem guys. Let's get educated before we go out and monger guys. Before you know it Medellin will be way to expensive if not already in poblado. No thanks to guys like this that ruin it for all of us. Good luck next time.

How can another guy ruin it for you? If some chica asks you to pay something that you don't want to pay, don't. Next!

[Dickhead]

YK makes an excellent point. I would also add that there is more to the definition of "dangerous" than getting murdered. Who cares if you avoid getting murdered if you get killed in a car accident? Or would you consider a "safe" trip one where you did not get murdered or die in a car wreck but contracted hepatitis, yellow fever, malaria, or HIV? Or broke your ankle on a crappy sidewalk? Right now I am in a Latin Amrican town where I fear falling on the sidewalks or cobblestones more than getting murdered.

One thing I will say is that, as compared to the US with its random mass shootings, there is usually a reason underlying murders in LatAm. Fucking someone else's woman, getting involved with drugs, etc. , as opposed to minding your own business at a concert in Las Vegas or a church in Texas or a school in California or or or or or ...

I have not been in Caracas in a long time but unless things have drastically changed, who cares if it is dangerous or not? It is boring and sucks.

[Wolf662]

I love data but there's an inherent problem with these stats: it takes into account the city as a whole (which can include suburbs). Now show me the stats of homicides in a specific neighborhood in these cities that a monger would want to go to and you have more relevant data. I can go to Baltimore and stay out of all the "bad" areas and never worry but can I do the same in Medellin or Bogota? I suspect the real answer lies there.

This article has a breakdown of murders by neighborhood:

https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/

"Robberies / thefts of people reported in Medellin between January 1 and May 14,2016, were 13 percent less than the same period in the previous year. 49 percent of these robberies / thefts during the period were in El Centro. The second most common comuna for a robbery was Laureles followed by El Poblado.

If you normalize these counts by population El Poblado and Laureles have a similar population of about 125,000 while El Centro has a lower population of about 85,000 but it also has many visitors during the day doing shopping.

The most common items stolen were cell phones, followed by money and clothes and jewelry.

In El Poblado, robberies / thefts totaled 220 during the reporting period, which was up 15% compared to the same period in 2015. This may be due to thieves targeting the wealthy area of Medellin and tourists in the area.

La Candelaria (El Centro) remains the most dangerous part of Medellin with the highest counts of robberies / thefts, motorcycle thefts, homicides and sexual offenses. That is why you will see an increased police presence in El Centro.

In terms of homicides, the highest counts during the period between January 1 and May 14,2016 were found in La Candelaria with 28, Robledo with 21 and Castilla with 19. During this reporting period only 2 of the 171 homicides in Medelland were in El Poblado. ".

"Foreigner Homicides in Medellin in 2016.

Most foreigner homicides in Medellin I have seen reported in the news in over six years was a result of something the foreigners did. These are typically related to resisting a robbery or being involved in shady activities like drugs or prostitution.

There were nine reported homicides of foreigners in Medellin in 2016. We'll look at these in detail to demonstrate that a majority of foreigner homicides in the city tend to be the result of resisting robberies or being involved in shady activities.

On June 4, Mexican national Jess Estrada de La Rosa, aged 48, was shot dead in Beland when he reportedly tried to prevent the theft of a motorcycle in the LOS Alpes barrio.

June 15, Israeli Shay Azran, aged 37, was killed with a firearm near the Exito in Laureles. He was allegedly involved in drug and sex tourism according to news reports.

June 16, Danish Tomas Willemoes, aged 41, was shot to the head in Provenza near Parque Lleras in El Poblado at about 9:30 pm. News reports claim this was a murder for hire so it may have involved shady activities.

September 29, the body of Australian Anthony Hasselback, aged 49, who was living in El Poblado was found along a road with two shots to the head in the municipality of Santo Domingo in Northeastern Antioquia. News reports claim he was involved in sex tourism.

November 19, Ryo Izaki, a 22-year-old Japanese man was shot dead in Estadio on a Saturday at about 4 pm after chasing a pair of suspects who had allegedly taken his mobile phone and tablet.

December 3, a Venezuelan member of the LBGT community was murdered who reportedly had sentimental problems.

In December, the body of a 23-year-old Dutch man was found in Laureles. News reports indicate that on December 10 this backpacker had a discussion with a woman and was shot.

December 14, American Jigar Patel from Illinois was attacked by a knife and killed in the barrio Miranda north of Medellin by two assailants.

On December 16, a body of a man from Dominica was found buried in a wooded area of ​8203;the Santa Elena district. He was reportedly kidnapped from a shopping mall in El Poblado in October. News reports indicate this homicide was related to the collection of money by drug trafficking networks.

Also there were at least six foreigner deaths in Medellin in 2016 due to drug overdoses reported in the news.

Medellin Safety Tips.

Medellin is safe to visit if you handle yourself properly and use common sense. We have a number of safety tips that should greatly reduce your risk of being a victim of crime in the city.

Dress conservatively. Look to see how Colombians dress. If you have on shorts and flip-flops in Medellin you are broadcasting that you are a foreigner.

Stay in groups at night. Don't walk alone at night through unfamiliar areas. Take taxis at night.

Never resist if you are a robbery victim. Most thieves will have a gun or knife and will not hesitate to use them. It's not worth risking your life for a few hundred dollars.

Don't leave your drink unattended. It only takes a second for someone to drop something like Scopolamine in your drink.

Don't flash cellphones, cameras or money. Don't display expensive electronics in public places or wear fancy jewelry.

Don't use ATMs on the street stick to ATMs in malls or grocery stores. And be conscious of who might be around.

Be wary of motorcycles whether in a taxi or walking down the street. Robberies by people on a motorcycle are common. Be especially cautious if you see two men on a motorcycle.

Be particularly careful in El Centro. There have been ongoing security problems in chaotic El Centro, especially at night. Some parts of El Centro are magnets for the homeless, drug addicts and drunks and street crime is common. The highest reported crime rates in the city tend to be in El Centro.

Don't be fooled by El Poblado. It may appear to be safe but the statistics indicate that robberies are increasing in El Poblado, which may be due to thieves targeting tourists and the wealthy area of the city.

Don't partake in activities that are probably illegal in your home country (even if they are legal here). Participating in shady activities increases your likelihood of being a crime victim.

Stay away from the poorest neighborhoods of the city like Popular, Santa Cruz, Manrique and 12 de Octubre. Like any big city, Medellin has several neighborhoods that are more dangerous and are not really places for foreigners.

Don't carry your passport with you everywhere. Lock it up in a safe location and carry a copy with you along with another ID like a driver's license or cedula. Only bring credit cards or ATM cards with you that you plan to use.

Keep a low profile so you don't become a target. Be careful about displaying your money or valuables and don't give out information about where you live or are staying to strangers. ".

[HBoy54]

The Venezuelan homicide rate is more then double the Colombia rate and is probably unreported also.

Caracas is the top most dangerous city in the world.

The US homicide rate is 4 per 100,000 per year. The Colombian rate is 26 per 100,000. The Venezuelan rate is 57. However the rate in Caracas is an astounding 130 per 100,000.

Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.

4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali, Palmira, Armenia, and Cucuta.

If you buy one Power Ball ticket your odds of winning are tiny. If you buy 100 tickets your odds are 100 times better but still tiny.

[YippieKayay]

The Venezuelan homicide rate is more then double the Colombia rate and is probably unreported also.

Caracas is the top most dangerous city in the world.

The US homicide rate is 4 per 100,000 per year. The Colombian rate is 26 per 100,000. The Venezuelan rate is 57. However the rate in Caracas is an astounding 130 per 100,000.

Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.

4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali, Palmira, Armenia, and Cucuta.

US cities St Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans and Detroit all make the top 50 list also and are more dangerous then Medellin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate

http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/m...the-world.html

I love data but there's an inherent problem with these stats: it takes into account the city as a whole (which can include suburbs). Now show me the stats of homicides in a specific neighborhood in these cities that a monger would want to go to and you have more relevant data. I can go to Baltimore and stay out of all the "bad" areas and never worry but can I do the same in Medellin or Bogota? I suspect the real answer lies there.

[SBeach25]

The Venezuelan homicide rate is more then double the Colombia rate and is probably unreported also.

Caracas is the top most dangerous city in the world.

The US homicide rate is 4 per 100,000 per year. The Colombian rate is 26 per 100,000. The Venezuelan rate is 57. However the rate in Caracas is an astounding 130 per 100,000.

Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.

4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali, Palmira, Armenia, and Cucuta.

US cities St Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans and Detroit all make the top 50 list also and are more dangerous then Medellin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate

http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/m...the-world.html

I was just talking about this with a bud on this topic this morning. You must have read the same report. For all those reading, I've been hitting TJ (#22) and many parts of that city and felt safe as long as I was not in Centro and kept my wits about me when I am. Never really had a bad incident other than the local monkees shaking me down. Hell, I now avoid the local monkees when I see them more than the locals because I may look like an easy mark.

[SBeach25]

It is not about big balls and all that other shit. To me there is absolutely nothing wrong with downtown Medellin, Bogota, Rio. But when it comes to Caracas it is time to say FUCK THAT! 11 or so years ago I had a girlfriend in the hood in Caracas and I used to stay at her place. (This picture is from the beach that we used to go to near the airport. She lives in Panama now.) But these days I would not go around Caracas PERIOD. You would probably come out better going to Syria. Go to Calle 18 in Guayaquil, Ecuador if you must have $6 pussy. The $8 pussy and $11 hotels in Medellin suit me just fine.

I read somewhere that the city is now ranked #1 on one of the business magazines as the most dangerous city. I think I will have to agree with your opinion as of current state.

[Balboa]

I did not think Cali that dangerous but that was just my perception. I met some very nice people from Cali (families) at a restaurant in Laureles last year. They sat with me because I was alone at a large table and the restaurant was otherwise full. They spoke highly of Cali, naturally, and said they thought it a better city than Medellin. I would like to visit because the Cali look is different than MDE and can be very beautiful.

The most beautiful woman I have been with in my life was from Cali. She was working Golden Time in Panama City. Unbelievable girl. So far out of my league, Stunning!

Almost all Colombians will say their city is the best, LOL.

Cali has some beauties for sure, I don't really like the city itself though.

I just feel better in Medellin, better climate, more green, overall nicer people IMO.

[Knowledge]

Everybody has to decide for themselves. I am friends with a guy from Venezuela who got transferred to the US by his job a few years ago while Chavez was still alive. He goes home once or twice a year. He told me he wanted to go out to dinner and a sporting event in Caracas last time he was there but his family told him to forget about it because it is "way too dangerous."

It is not about big balls and all that other shit. To me there is absolutely nothing wrong with downtown Medellin, Bogota, Rio. But when it comes to Caracas it is time to say FUCK THAT! 11 or so years ago I had a girlfriend in the hood in Caracas and I used to stay at her place. (This picture is from the beach that we used to go to near the airport. She lives in Panama now.) But these days I would not go around Caracas PERIOD. You would probably come out better going to Syria. Go to Calle 18 in Guayaquil, Ecuador if you must have $6 pussy. The $8 pussy and $11 hotels in Medellin suit me just fine.

[Knowledge]

That's all good advice. I especially appreciate the idea of dressing to blend in. There is no excuse anymore for people who show up in wildly out of context clothing. We have the Internet and and street view maps that show exactly how people dress in different parts of cities.

On another note, to guys saying inexperienced travelers have to stay in Poblado or gringo hotels I agree it's true in some cases but that is not for everybody. As another poster said very well. YMMV. The message is be alert and use common sense. It can be misleading telling guys all is good in upscale neighborhoods. It's true the crime rate is generally much lower but there have been robberies and murders in Poblado and yes, the Mansion was stuck up by armed hooligans too. I'm guessing no one saw it coming except maybe a confederate working on the inside.

I would be thrilled to tell you, not only which casas, but also the street address and everything that was said, except it didn't happen to me. I just ended up having a beer with someone it happened to the evening after it happened. Mostly he was embarrassed about being caught off guard and not knowing how to handle the situation.

If I ask him and report the exact location, it will do more harm than good. Because there will be someone who sees the name of a casa and decides all he needs to do to be safe, is go to a different casa. When he's confronted by the same guys 2 blocks away, if he doesn't know what to do the result is the same.

Being safe in the streets isn't about avoiding 1 or 2 corners. It's not even about avoiding a certain area with known risks. On Sunday I spent most of the day on a semi-guided tour through a lot of barrios, including 1 where no monger should ever go. At no time did I feel the least bit uncomfortable and at no time was I in more danger than in Poblado. Because I know correct behavior..

[The Tall Man]

I did not think Cali that dangerous but that was just my perception. I met some very nice people from Cali (families) at a restaurant in Laureles last year. They sat with me because I was alone at a large table and the restaurant was otherwise full. They spoke highly of Cali, naturally, and said they thought it a better city than Medellin. I would like to visit because the Cali look is different than MDE and can be very beautiful.

The most beautiful woman I have been with in my life was from Cali. She was working Golden Time in Panama City. Unbelievable girl. So far out of my league, Stunning!

Cali does have have some beauties, I was there this past April, did not think too much of the city per se but then again I spent little time there HOWEVER my next city to visit was Buenaventura, what a hell hole, this was right before the riots.

TTM.

[Chicafan]

Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.

4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali....

I did not think Cali that dangerous but that was just my perception. I met some very nice people from Cali (families) at a restaurant in Laureles last year. They sat with me because I was alone at a large table and the restaurant was otherwise full. They spoke highly of Cali, naturally, and said they thought it a better city than Medellin. I would like to visit because the Cali look is different than MDE and can be very beautiful.

The most beautiful woman I have been with in my life was from Cali. She was working Golden Time in Panama City. Unbelievable girl. So far out of my league, Stunning!

[Wolf662]

Go to Venezuela? Caracas. I ask this question here, because like Caracas, Medellin still has this aire of being "too dangerous" to visit. While this aire is more imagined than the actual dangers in Caracas, I venture to think it MAY not be AS dangerous as many of us believe. I guess it comes down to your level of being risk averse. Many who monger often in Medellin warn of the dangers of El Centro. I grew up in very nasty places in New Orleans and El Centro doesn't scare me because I have always been on guard when walking the street there or anywhere else at night. Perhaps part of why I haven't experienced this danger is because I don't look like a "typical" gringo and know how to "mean mug" and walk with a purpose. Before I leave a place in Centro, I generally go into the bathroom stall, look at my map or whatever to figure out where I'm going and leave with those directions in my head.

Anyway, back to the point. Pussy is $7 an hour in Caracas and 3/4 star hotels go for $11 per night, sooo, yeah, I'm fucking thinking about it. Anyone else want to jump in on making plans for a trip March / April of next year? PM me.

The Venezuelan homicide rate is more then double the Colombia rate and is probably unreported also.

Caracas is the top most dangerous city in the world.

The US homicide rate is 4 per 100,000 per year. The Colombian rate is 26 per 100,000. The Venezuelan rate is 57. However the rate in Caracas is an astounding 130 per 100,000.

Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.

4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali, Palmira, Armenia, and Cucuta.

US cities St Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans and Detroit all make the top 50 list also and are more dangerous then Medellin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate

http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/m...the-world.html

[Judd]

She had no dick DICK. Jerking off being a relative term, I. E. , masturbating and climaxing together. She was rubbing her wet box with one hand and sucking one of her double dee titties with the other hand. After she came, I jacked between her idylic set of fun bags. This debauchery of course took place after we banged during which she came a couple of times. Total damage for the night was 100 k plus taxi.

What JR should have been quoting, is it pays dividends when you have multiple sessions with a chica as opposed to the in and out centro casas. I wasn't hip to this when I first started coming here, but now see the value of the "Chica Date" angle.

Late,

Judd.

Tonight, we both jerked off together. LOL.

So, you picked up a chick with a dick and you whacked off in front of each other?

To each their own I guess. HA!

[Combo]

Good post. Some irresponsible people recommend El Centro and the streets to gringos. Gringos should take taxi and avoid street in Centro. Basically there is no "hidden gem" in Centro.

I think there used to be hidden gems in Centro. However, the area seems to be played out. You can still find something nice, but for most guys, it's not going to be worth it.

I agree with you on the irresponsible thing. Just because you go there a couple times with no problems doesn't mean it's safe for the next guy. The odds of something bad happening are much higher than they are in Poblado.