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03-12-18 17:53 #17946
Posts: 268Flawed thoughts.
Just that Ukraine has a large amount of beauties doesn't mean you can fuck a stunning beauty at a cheap price in Ukraine.
This is easy to understand.
Think about the reasons why you can't buy a diamond at a price of a stone in Kimberley, South Africa.
A diamond is a diamond and as long as a diamond can move globally with negligible marginal transport costs, it doesn't make much difference on its price wether you buy it in Kimberley or New York.
The 'stones' in Kiev might be much cheaper than in elsewhere but the 'diamonds' aren't.
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03-12-18 02:45 #17945
Posts: 446Originally Posted by Misterxxx [View Original Post]
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03-11-18 22:33 #17944
Posts: 823Originally Posted by AntonySun1996 [View Original Post]
Sincere unbiased clarification, Antony, agree with you on all points. Ukrainian ladies can be a gift from Heaven. Marrying them takes a lot of courage though.
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03-11-18 16:47 #17943
Posts: 1125Originally Posted by Tomek123 [View Original Post]EDITOR's NOTE: This member has been approved by the Forum Management as a "Local Area Guide". As such, he is permitted to offer and otherwise promote his guide services in his designated threads.
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03-11-18 16:10 #17942
Posts: 1125Originally Posted by Joeee14 [View Original Post]EDITOR's NOTE: This member has been approved by the Forum Management as a "Local Area Guide". As such, he is permitted to offer and otherwise promote his guide services in his designated threads.
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03-11-18 11:43 #17941
Posts: 220Originally Posted by Tomek123 [View Original Post]
In 2011 I met a young girl in Lviv. Ksenia. Student. Slim. Blond. Fresh from the countryside. Mamba. Cheap. In 2012 she went to Kiev. Worked there in an apartment. 600 UAH for one hour. She was ready for everything. Good kissing. Great blowjob. Fucking without a condom. Without further costs. In 2013 she became independent. Back in Mamba. 1000 UAH for a meeting. Then came the crisis. Maidan. Little money, hardly any customers. We met again for 1000 UAH. At that time, that was 30 euros. For a meeting of several hours. Not per hour. The bad time was over at the end of 2015. More tourists and business people came to Kiev. She suddenly wanted $ 100. In 2016 then 100 euros. In the middle of 2017, the price rose to $ 200. I refused a meeting. At the beginning of 2018, I wrote to Mamba again. With a fake profile. She wanted $ 300. No chance for negotiations.
At first she was a pretty girl. Naturally. Good manners. Good style. Tasteful clothes. But in the past two years she has had several cosmetic surgeries. The nose. She also wanted silicone breasts. The behavior became more and more outrageous. I do not like the current photos on Mamba anymore. Barby doll.
And of course she is not 23 years old. Easy to find on Mamba.
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03-10-18 23:12 #17940
Posts: 268Originally Posted by PhotoSlider [View Original Post]
However I still do believe that the skin colour of the girls does play a major role in mongering, not only in short term but also long term.
Indeed, from a westerners perspective, the skin colour might not be a primary concern and it doesn't make much difference whether a beauty is white, Latin, or Asian. However, people from certain cultural backgrounds, for example some Asian or middle eastern countries, do have a strong preference of white girls and, in particular, Slavic girls. In the country where I'm originally from, if you marry a Ukrainian or Russian girl, it is considered as a extraordinarily great honour and you will find yourself on newspapers (not only some local tabloids, but also some major newspapers). This perception of Slavic pussies is becoming more widely spread due to the development of the internet media. With the increase of both the wealth of people from these countries and the convenience of international traveling, they are flying to Ukraine at a great and constantly expanding amount, either for short-term mongering, or for long-term relationship or marriage.
So it is important to understand that when we are talking about sex travellers in Ukraine, we are not just talk about people from Europe, Canada, or US, we are also talking about Arabians, Chinese, and Indian, not to mention the local men who have become richer than before. Besides, the population of Ukraine is in decrease, which means the pussy resources are decreasing while the demand is expanding.
Of course, it is still possible to succeed in Kiev, but the chances are becoming less and more efforts are required to be put in for ordinary mongers. The chances of getting super hot ones have dropped even more greatly. The game is changing and will continue to change.
BTW, I knew from my family that, around the years when I was born (1996), there were a good number of Russian and maybe also Ukrainian beauties flowing to my town, begging for something to eat. Most of them worked in local restaurants as waitresses, and customers can touch their butts and boobs without any problem. Good old days. Unfortunately, as a newly born baby, I was too young to fuck them. If were born a couple of years early, I would be able to fuck Russian beauties with ease in my own town, without the need to fly to Moscow or Kiev, haha.
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03-10-18 21:35 #17939
Posts: 46A warning to all.
I just wanted to share a story of a situation that happened to me last week in Kiev.
I was selling my phone on OLX and got a call from a guy that would transfer the money immediately to my card and then send a courier to pick up the phone.
The message arrived that the funds had been transferred and the courier came and picked up the phone.
I had a bad feeling so I called the bank to make sure that the money had arrived. It hadn't.
I called the police and they explained to me that people from jail have been running this scam for a while and even if they traced the phone to that jail, they would not be able to find out which inmate was using the phone that called me and that they keep changing couriers so they are untraceable as well.
So a word to the wise: Either go with cash on the spot, or call your bank or go online if you have online banking to make sure that the funds are there, because even though it might seem that you received a legit message from your bank, you might have been a victim of fraud.
And the only way that you can legitimately recover the phone if they do decide to pursue, is by keeping a record of the serial number, which I did not keep since I bought it from a friend without the box and he has no recollection of the serial number.
Hope it helps.
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03-10-18 20:15 #17938
Posts: 823Originally Posted by AntonySun1996 [View Original Post]
In the grand scheme of things to many of us it doesn't matter if pussy is white Ukrainian, or tan Ukrainian, or mulatto Ukrainian, or even not Ukrainian at all. Girls attitude towards making us happy matters the most, how she is raised. Skin color is certainly secondary. Human being is human being. Besides Ukrainians are so diverse!
As Riina pointed out AntonySun's explanation is applicable to short term tourists. Those almost inevitably pay extra, and hope it's worth it. And if their unrealistic expectations do not materialize, and result in a hustle with no overwhelming pleasure, then they complain on this Forum. Arriving for the first time and hitting the ground running is not that frequent nowadays but still possible, especially for confident gentlemen, that succeed globally.
For longer term visitors, or those that already established connections from prior visits, the outlook seems more optimistic. Both in terms of available resources quality and required investment of time and funds.
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03-10-18 11:22 #17937
Posts: 2844Cheapest in Europe?
Originally Posted by KainNYC [View Original Post]
http://www.moldovahostels.com/phone/index.html
Check Tiraspol under Moldova here on ISG for Slavic, Russian Girls.
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03-09-18 22:10 #17936
Posts: 268Originally Posted by Tomek123 [View Original Post]
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03-09-18 22:01 #17935
Posts: 268Originally Posted by Scungo [View Original Post]
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03-09-18 21:56 #17934
Posts: 268Originally Posted by Tomek123 [View Original Post]
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03-09-18 17:04 #17933
Posts: 4Originally Posted by KainNYC [View Original Post]
I understand your question.
Mongering Scene in Europe is not easy to describe as it depends of a lot of factors that varies from country to country.
Czech Republic was extremely cheap, but this was 12 years ago.
Now the only thing that is affordable in PRag is "showpark". I like the concept.
There are some small Czech cities with a lot of girls in the border between Bavaria and Czech Republic. It should be very cheap to monger there but I have never been there.
Poland has pretty girls and is cheap indeed, but the girls don't like / offer Paysex.
Latvia is very expensive since € arrived.
Hungary, Budapest, is bit dangerous. Prostitution is not legal there, so they rip you off.
Ukraine is weird situation as Prostitution is not legal, you have to invest a lot of time to make the contacts. I don't like this very much I don't have so much leisure time in my life.
Berlin is a city that you should take into consideration.
Advantages of Berlin:
Prostitution in Germany is legal, so the market is transparent.
Transport: You can move everywhere with metro or train, so you don't need to pay for taxi. (you don't need to read Kiril, and in the mongering scene people speak English).
Berlin is not an expensive city. Accommodation and food is affordable. There is an open minded mentality to sex and nudism.
People from different nations live in Berlin, so you can find the following girls in Berlin: Germans, Russian, Polish, Romanian, Asian, Balcan and some mixed ethnicity that are very hot.
Berlin has also other stuff to offer. So, you will not get bored.
1. - You have at least three big GB Clubs that you pay entrance (90€-120€) and can stay there all day. You get food, TV, and you can have a lot of times sex. And the girls are mostly hot. If you just want to stay few hours you pay the half. The atmosphere is cool.
2. - In Berlin you have a lot erotic massage parlors. The services varies as it depends from the girl. But very often the service is superb, specially if you are handsome to the girl. And you can ask for many extras. Massages start from 50 € for 30 min.
3. - if you are looking for girls looking like dolls and you have more money you can go to Artemis and hang around there. They have a lot of nationalities, I think, mostly "European" girls. Food is included.
4. - There are some basic Brothels, that work 24 hours. And you pay there 50 € - 60 € for 30 min.
4. - And there are some Websites, also for professionals.
Have fun,
J.
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03-09-18 16:53 #17932
Posts: 715Originally Posted by KainNYC [View Original Post]
Ukraine has by far the least expensive pussy in Europe. But you're not likely to find it as a tourist.