Jakarta

[Wimble]

I am surprised those people targeted would have time to read between the lines and figure out what is on offer. I guess there are a lot of fixers and agents around.

Frankly, I wish I had know about Tag the Sponsor earlier, it would've confirmed my suspicions. I just went with the hunch, an intuition of sorts, that these IG models were a front. Any profile that mentions "DM for booking" or "open promo" automatically brings to mind "open booking" and "booking out," the euphemisms for escort work.

[SeaTraveler]

you guys are shagging these hot models and not sharing any photos here? How about some compassion for your fellow man?

i second that.

[Smoothy]

You guys are shagging these hot models and not sharing any photos here? How about some compassion for your fellow man?

[K Constant]

I have been interested in the whole IG hooker thing ever since I came across a site on Reddit called Tag the Sponsor. I won't link it. You can just Google it. Basically it is a site dedicated to exposing IG prostitutes. Apparently there is a huge industry of rich Gulf state men that pay women to go there so they can fuck them and be pooped on No, I am not shitting you. Pooping is a common theme. The big thing of the site is apparently getting the would be prostitutes to send pictures, passport information, etc and then even a video saying they consent to all this. And they post the conversation all online and expose them.

Frankly, I wish I had know about Tag the Sponsor earlier, it would've confirmed my suspicions. I just went with the hunch, an intuition of sorts, that these IG models were a front. Any profile that mentions "DM for booking" or "open promo" automatically brings to mind "open booking" and "booking out," the euphemisms for escort work.

[NoGermaphobe]

I agree. This is all just so incredibly fascinating to me. Especially the IG part, which I will go into later. Thanks for your detailed response and answers Mr. Constant.

I personally don't think your ethnicity matters Ggekko2009. I think as long as you have the "reds" or whatever currency is applicable, you should be fine.

I have been interested in the whole IG hooker thing ever since I came across a site on Reddit called Tag the Sponsor. I won't link it. You can just Google it. Basically it is a site dedicated to exposing IG prostitutes. Apparently there is a huge industry of rich Gulf state men that pay women to go there so they can fuck them and be pooped on No, I am not shitting you. Pooping is a common theme. The big thing of the site is apparently getting the would be prostitutes to send pictures, passport information, etc and then even a video saying they consent to all this. And they post the conversation all online and expose them.

The sums of money being offered are truly staggering. Like 10 K US plus. Now this site is just posting people who are catfishing and trolling these women. They setup fake IG profiles and then contact the women. But they are attempting to expose what a sham IG modeling really is and how most of the women are just high priced hookers. The guys that run the site claim they don't have a problem with hookers and prostitutes, just the fakeness of the profiles and what the ladies actually are. But some of the texts and conversations are truly brutal. I get the hypocrisy they are trying to expose, but I don't really agree with their methods. They are ruining lives with what they are doing. If a woman wants to post sexy pictures of herself on IG and offer up her body for whatever on the side, that is her business. No need to embarrass and expose her.

For me, I never had the patience to go the IG route. I can play in the 1 K range, but I cannot play in the 10 K range. It seemed like a lot of effort and time anyways that I didn't want to invest in. Much easier to just go to Jakarta for the week and fuck a lot of hot ladies at Malio, Emporium, Alexis 7 before it closed or Alexis Karaoke. But I think the writing is on the wall that physical places will continue to be closed by authorities and Tinder, Badoo, Dating Apps, IG etc will be the way we have to pursue our hobby in the future. I much rather prefer in person selection for a lot of personal preference reasons. But that I fear that is going the way of the dodo.

Still some of the stuff is quite fascinating to read on Tag the Sponsor. If nothing more than to open my eyes to the fact that really, really hot chicks are willing to let dudes do almost anything for the right amount. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. But I still am.

From their About Us page.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with having a sugar daddy, as its beneficial to both parties. But all of a sudden, there is a surge of women with small waists and disproportionate butts that have 50k + followers on Instagram, with booking info in their bios. Booking what? Pussy. The problem here is, is that these sponsorettes put on a facade that they are signed models, fitness chicks, bartenders, real estate agents, marketing executives, or some obscure form of employment. Dont models have agents? Dont fitness chicks actually work out? How does a weekend bartending gig finance private jets? Dont real estate agents and marketing executives actually work, not lay under a cabana on a different island every week? They might as well start putting their rates in their bios as well, because they wont be fooling anyone much longer. We have nothing against prostitution, but we are against women who sell pussy and put down those who actually work to make a decent living. We are against fraudulent hoes, pretentiousness, and bigotry. We look down upon and expose hoes that pretend they built their accomplishments by working hard and not laying on their backs. Hence, why we dont take submissions of strippers and pornstars, as these women will not try to fool you. Theyre upfront with what they do, unlike sponsorettes.

Thanks for sharing, these are all great stuff. I might try to explore this route the next time and see how it goes. However I am not sure if the girls are only more responsive to Bule. I look East Asian and maybe their expectations could be different.

[Ggekko2009]

The first snippet of our conversation via IG DM:

Me: "Hey, I'll be in Singapore on Wednesday at Marina Bay. I want you to be with me. Tell me how much it'll be to make that happen. " <- (My opener was both specific and explicit. I asked her on Tuesday May 29 to meet me the very next day.)

Her: "How many girls you ask shity (sic) way like this?"

Me: "That's not very nice. I found your IG page back in January, and I'd like to get to know you. I was going to meet you at a photo hunt, but I haven't made it to Jakarta. "

Her: "Just wondering"

Me: "It's not about being shitty."

Her: "What do you want"

Me: "Everything of course. And you're the only girl that I'm asking. "

Her: "Really?"

Me: "Yes, really. There's a flight with AirAsia that leaves CGK at 145 p and arrives in Singapore at 440 p. You can return to Jakarta the next morning. I'll book your travel. "

Her: "Send me your pics 1st. Who are you anyway"

Thanks for sharing, these are all great stuff. I might try to explore this route the next time and see how it goes. However I am not sure if the girls are only more responsive to Bule. I look East Asian and maybe their expectations could be different.

[K Constant]

How many followers and how well developed was your own IG profile? Was it a new account with no followers or pictures of your own? Or did you have a lot of pictures of cars, yachts, money, hotels, world travel, etc?

I created a separate IG account for this "research," I didn't want friends and family to notice that I was following dozens of Indonesian women, modeling agencies, and notorious spas and brothels. I did post a series of images pulled from the internet of hotels that I had stayed in overseas. It was a personal project, and not some display of status / wealth; many of the hotels are quite humble. Currently, the profile has about 30 followers, all of them seem to be bots.

For the girl you chose, about how many followers did she have? Was she, say over 100-150 K followers?

The most important thing for me was that the girl was using her IG page as a business. I didn't set a cutoff for followers; however, I looked for "Open Promo", "Endorse", "DM for Booking", etc. The girl that I chose happened to have 200 k+ followers.

Why would she respond? I bet she gets tons of DMs every day.

I can't know for sure why she responded to me; however, I do know that she uses DMs for bookings and promos. At minimum, she checks her inbox for those opportunities. Furthermore, there was not a lot of social distance that would prevent her from responding. GROs only make 8 juta/month, she could make 1-3 juta per photo shoot, and she made some money from promos on her IG profile; however, her overall income was not in anyway spectacular. Additionally, Ramadan suppressed her wages from GRO work because of curtailed club hours. Finally, her most recent boyfriend had just returned to France. In fact, her last several boyfriends were bule. Like many girls, she was aware that western foreigners are a potential source of income.

Did your profile have an actual picture of you?

My profile only had one obscured photo of me posing in front of Christos Redentor in Rio. She asked for photos as the conversation progressed.

How did you know when you were chatting with her that it was actually her and not an agent?

Unlike the WeChat / Tinder game, the less successful girls won't have agents. This girl managed all her own work through her phone. She lives in a small apartment in west Jakarta with her sister; it's a very small operation. However, many girls with agents are explicit on their profiles that their booking / contact information is for an agent. Of course, I know this only in retrospect. At the time, I didn't know it; I asked her a lot of questions about how IG modeling works while we were on our date.

How did you bring up the subject of a P4P transaction?

The first snippet of our conversation via IG DM:

Me: "Hey, I'll be in Singapore on Wednesday at Marina Bay. I want you to be with me. Tell me how much it'll be to make that happen. " <- (My opener was both specific and explicit. I asked her on Tuesday May 29 to meet me the very next day.)

Her: "How many girls you ask shity (sic) way like this?"

Me: "That's not very nice. I found your IG page back in January, and I'd like to get to know you. I was going to meet you at a photo hunt, but I haven't made it to Jakarta. "

Her: "Just wondering"

Me: "It's not about being shitty."

Her: "What do you want"

Me: "Everything of course. And you're the only girl that I'm asking. "

Her: "Really?"

Me: "Yes, really. There's a flight with AirAsia that leaves CGK at 145 p and arrives in Singapore at 440 p. You can return to Jakarta the next morning. I'll book your travel. "

Her: "Send me your pics 1st. Who are you anyway"

Finally, and the most important for me. I am happy to pay that money for what it is if it includes all day and several pops. But for me, it would have to be BBFS all the way. I personally I am not wiling to drop 1 K on covered sex. So curious if you brought that up before, it was assumed. Or you were just safe for your own personal reasons.

I'll leave this final bit unsaid because I don't want to wade into any controversial territory. But, IMHO everything is on the table, though YMMV.

[Smoothy]

About a year ago, I was staying at The Grove Suites and just outside the hotel saw these models doing a photo shoot.

[Hung Man 1808]

Within the last year I have availed myself of one of these photo models (not the ones under discussion or on that photographer's list) - found on Tinder, and also on Instagram.

Took about six months to get a meet, when I did she blew me away (literally) in ST for 3 juta. Not a perfect body (slender but bit of a belly) but she was a nice girl and quite intense when it came down to it (I think there are a few puns in there).

Would I return? Hell yeah. Value for money. It seems however that she's too damn busy getting photographed in various states of undress all over the country / region to do any activities that involve shooting without a camera. My requests to meet up again have been met with silence.

There has been the ministerial candidate (and her sister) but no names no pack drill. Nice girls as well.

I'll even put up with the bitchy ones as long as they know what they are there for and perform to achieve their goal (I. E. A good payout) and they are out the door as soon as I'm happy. Trying to do anything with these girls that doesn't occur within 5 m of a bed or involve immediate nakedness is a recipe for disaster / disappointment. I know, I've tried! One girl previously featured here a few years ago by multiple people springs to mind in this regard.

If you are going for the cheapest possible you're not going to get these experiences. Having said that, all experiences above have fallen in the CJs / BATs opening bid / closing price range of the last year or so. And all found from browsing Facebook (before the swiping boom, so 7-10 years ago) or the Tinder / Badoo / Skout / Tango route. Line I find a bit of a jumble but the girls are all supposed to be there as well.

[Offshore Swell]

But for me, it would have to be BBFS all the way. I personally I am not wiling to drop 1 K on covered sex. So curious if you brought that up before, it was assumed. Or you were just safe for your own personal reasons.

Reminds me of that famous line. "Oh, and Mr Berlusconi doesn't use condoms".

[Wimble]

I am sure the guys who were first didn't pay or paid a lot less! LOL! Just a little envious of your conquest. It is great to catch them before they get hardened or realize their real value.

The most I gave any of them was 1 million (the one from 2001 was only 300 k), but again I haven't been with any of them recently..

At that age, it will be hard to tell but your finger could have explored. Heh heh,

The next weekend in the province I had the company of a 38 year old virgin who stayed overnight with me in my hotel. Surprisingly, she let me DATY all I wanted but sex was a no-go unless I would marry her. Could have lied, of course, but I was raised with some ethical values and did not.

[Hilo77]

Good photos indeed. And they do look great. Bats / Blok M. Four, you say. Not more? Five or six do look familiar.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd9TrVDl...y=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/BilZt5hA...y=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfXVtfOl...y=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb_LXnMl...y=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi1froSA...y=photogravura

Mmm. I am not entirely sure about number 5. I guess, the upper 4? Let me know the score! LOL. A guy like Hilo77 will nail this trivia in an instant.

As regards the IG photos, Smoothy is right. Those are seriously touched up photos of some fairly standard girls (tattoos on tits usually indicate that whatever else she is the girl ain't "high class") . Make-up, lighting, filters and focus, not to mention photoshop, can transform any fairly decent looking girl into a super model.

They are also in their late twenties to early thirties, they have been around the block a bit by this stage and now that they are AMWs (actress, model, whatever) they will have quite an inflated idea of their worth. Sure, they will not let you down in a five-star hotel and will look great on your arm, and turn a few heads, in the top clubs, and if that is what you are looking for knock yourself out, it's your money and I have no objection to you spending it.

For me, well unless a girl has grown a second vagina in an interesting place I feel no need to pay a thousand dollars for her company these days. There are plenty of sweet 19 and 20-year-old office girls, living in kos-kosan in Bekasi for whom a trip to Eastern Promise is a great treat and who will repay my kindness in spades in POP! Hotel next door for the price of a couple of glasses of beer in X2 or Dragonfly (are these still the hip joints? I am out of that scene now, hip replacement is more my speed, I think).

Like I say, however, if that's what you want, have fun, it's your money and you're a big boy.

[Hilo77]

A guy like Hilo77 will nail this trivia in an instant.

Kind of you to give me a shout out, although this is an end of the pool that I rarely swim in these days.

First of all like NoGermaphobe I also congratulate K Constant for livening up the forum with an interesting topic, it makes a change from page after page of Classic / Travel discussions.

K Constant has nailed his colours to the mast and good for him, money is no object, he clearly can afford to pay for what he wants (you don't get a room in Marina Bay Sands on Air be&B) and he chooses to do so, he knows what he wants and if it costs a few bob he will pay the rate, fair play to him.

I will not criticise him, I once travelled the length of Australia to meet a stripper in Sydney I had met one night in Perth and with whom, through the fog of booze, I fell madly in love. I found the club she was working in and after spending a fortune on her that night I asked her out on a date the next day. She agreed and we had a fairly nice afternoon, but in the fresh sober daylight, it turned out we just didn't click (well I just lost interest in her perhaps). However, I was acting the bigshot and while in a Louis Vuitton shop I bought her a thousand dollar handbag. Why? Because I could and it suited my ego to show her I could. We men are like that, I could afford it, it was my money and who the hell was anyone to tell me different?

A postscript, I went back to the Perth club a few weeks later and met the sweetest girl ever from the Seychelles, she was absolutely lovely, we had a brief and very happy fling for a week before I returned to my home country, and she only ever asked me to buy her one thing, a thirty dollar knock-off Louis Vuitton bag in a street market. Throwing money around doesn't always get you what you want, but if it does and you are happy with what you paid for, go for it.

[Joel Goodsen]

I don't recognize any of those girls listed. But they are all wearing colored contact lenses and 1,2 and 5 have very heavy nose shadowing, so I could know them and just not be aware it is them.

Likely, that must be. The first 4 in the list I gave you were all frequenting Blok M / Bats at some point in time.

As you mentioned you shagged 4 and if that doesn't match with my 4, makes me think that probably most of them are connected in the same circuit and are still making their rounds, but now online on Instagram, snapchat and other forms of social media. With the stylish photo-shoots and all, at probably triple their former Blok / Bats rates. Wouldn't surprise me. I wouldn't be the least interested at those amounts, but good for them. Actually, the friendships these girls form together, can be long lasting, they form quite a strong bond. I know from my ex Top Gun GF, she kept in touch with some of her former colleagues for years.

[Smoothy]

Good photos indeed. And they do look great. Bats / Blok M. Four, you say. Not more? Five or six do look familiar.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd9TrVDl...y=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/BilZt5hA...y=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfXVtfOl...y=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb_LXnMl...y=photogravura

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi1froSA...y=photogravura

Mmm. I am not entirely sure about number 5. I guess, the upper 4? Let me know the score! LOL. A guy like Hilo77 will nail this trivia in an instant.

I don't recognize any of those girls listed. But they are all wearing colored contact lenses and 1,2 and 5 have very heavy nose shadowing, so I could know them and just not be aware it is them. #3 looks quite similar to a girl who frequented top gun a few years ago, and #4 looks very similar to Dea who currently is a regular at BATS / CJs, but I don't believe either of them are those girls in the fotos. Girls 1,2 and 5 I give up even guessing simply because that nose shadowing makeup changes the girl's look so drastically that I wouldn't want to render a guess.

If you do know them, I would be curious who they are. I really don't believe that I know any of them.