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  1. #33599
    Quote Originally Posted by Carrib  [View Original Post]
    I will post a bit more later but I have another quick report, I am an avid cigar smoker -and for the past 3 days I have been frequenting the Habanos Point Cigar shop on Calle 10 a. The attendant is great, the poor guy is a mechanical engineer from Venezuela, speaks fluent english but the owner is an asshole. I met him (owner) yesterday, brought him a drink but the dude barely gave me the time of day. He also called and ordered the shop close early when the shop had clients spending money and watching the NFL game.

    Again no scene, just taking my money elsewhere.
    I have been to Habanos a few times and have met the Venezuelan attendant. He is a very knowledgeable guy and I enjoyed our conversations. The owner of Habanos is a Cubano. I haven't met him. The store is OK but the selection of cigars is limited.

    The attendant told me that the store got robbed last month. Couple guys on a motorbike pulled up and robbed the female attendant and the stores cash and also robbed a customer sitting outside on the patio.

    After hearing that story I looked around and and said ya this place is an easy target. Right off 10 A with lots of traffic in plain site to everyone. Here I am smoking a $50 cigar, enjoying an expensive whiskey and playing with my new cell phone all in plain site.

    I do like La Cava Puro just up the block from Habanos. They have a larger selection of cigars and the patio is discreet. It's on CR. 38 just off 10 A.

  2. #33598
    Quote Originally Posted by SJobs  [View Original Post]
    For the life of me, I couldn't figure out what went wrong with that gusto girl. It could be that I'm now more aware of the system in Medellin, which scared her, she knew that I now know that I'm significantly overpaying her. For instance, she always encourage me to buy the 100 k per gram of tussi in gusto, I now get high quality stuff from my FB connections. She encourages me to buy whiskey rounds for all the working staff in gusto. I did that only once when I was super drunk, now I refuse to even entertain the idea. Other explanation is that she is so coked out of her mind, she lost the basic reasoning ability. Anyway, she will turn 22 in 3 months, by that time, she will be too old for my taste, if it needs to end soon, this way is just as good as any.
    I had a similar experience a few months back. A girl who I thought was a solid performer suddenly decided she was no longer going to put any effort into it. After failing to get anywhere with her and calling it quits she demanded payment in full. Refused to listen to reason and began making a scene. I eventually caved and paid her, telling her that would be last money she ever saw from me.

    A week later she messages me out of the blue asking to meet again, acting like nothing had happened between us. I ignore her. She starts sending sexy photos. I respond with icy silence. Another week goes by and she messages again, apologizing for last time, promising she will act like before and that I can stay with her as long as I want. Even offers up her ass. I don't reply. She asks how she can make it up to me. I finally break my silence and say I'm going to be spending my money on other affectionate girls. She promises to behave, begging to meet, but I scorn her entreaties. She spends the next several days sending me photos of lingerie and constantly asking to meet until she finally gives up in the face of my non-responsiveness. I must admit, watching her slowly breakdown as she realized the gravity of her mistake felt better than sex with her ever did.

  3. #33597
    Quote Originally Posted by SJobs  [View Original Post]
    Right after entering my apartment, she opened a beer, grabbed some tussi and stormed into the bathroom. After a while, she came out and demanded 500 k payment upfront. I'm completely dumbfounded,.
    I had a similar experience a few weeks back. I picked up a girl at Parque Lleras. We went back to my apartment and within 5 minutes she demands money up front. We had previously agreed to 150,000. I told her I would give her the money when she leaves.

    She refused and proceeded to tell me every girl in Medellin requires payment up front. I laughed at her and told her I'm not stupid. I asked her to leave but she refused. She sat on my couch texting someone. I tried to call security but I couldn't figure out the landline LOL so I pretended I was talking to them. She told me she was calling the cops and I told her good call the cops and wait in the lobby. She got pissed off and threw a drink in my face and stormed out.

    5 minutes later I had one of my previous girls from Facebook coming over to salvage the night. I decided to refrain from Parque Lleras going forward.

    Oh she demanding money for time spent together LOL. 5 minutes. I didn't have any small change on me.

  4. #33596

    Please no anorexics

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I'm occasionally (or frequently) offensive. Unfortunately, there are guys who go to Colombia looking for children. Fortunately, if they're caught in Colombia, their days of looking for children are likely over.

    When I look through my chica list, I see about 2% who are over 30, about 5% who look about 30,70% looking in the 20-30 range, 20% around 18-20 and 3% that I'm going to insist on seeing a cedula before discussing anything.

    Most are slim to slender, a few bordering on anorexic and a few who are on the thin side of thick, with a couple of chunkers tossed in. Whatever your preference, you can find it.
    Haha I used to like super thin, until my field research revealed that super thin is usually a red flag for super crazy (or drug addicted), anorexics are some of the most deranged minds out there.

    Whilst trying to read between the lines of what you're saying, if what you say is true, it sounds like you're saying Latinas age poorly and many fb chicas are probably younger than I think and younger than they look.

    Unlike the Asians that age well, but still the over the hill at 25 yo rule applies in Asia, since Latinas don't age as well as Asians its probably only fair that number needs to be lower in Latin America, I'm going to say 22 yo.

    Is over the hill for WGs for me in Latin America, in Mexico my sweet spot is definitely 18-22, same for Asia Europe USA Russia Canada.

  5. #33595

    Thoughts on "Tussi"?

    I am planning a short trip back to Medellin next month and I was wondering if anyone could offer their thoughts on purchasing and taking tussi with a working girl? I have never taken it or other hard drugs. Is this something dangerous I shouldn't risk in Medellin? Will working girls look at me like I am crazy if I ask them to do this with me? Is there a high chance that I will be buying fake tussi? Where to acquire it? If anyone could offer some personal experiences with tussi and answer some of these questions I would greatly it. Thanks in advance for responses.

  6. #33594
    Quote Originally Posted by BMo814  [View Original Post]
    I think sometime we forget it's a lot of rich ass dudes who just got money to blow and yes those chicks are seeing those guys they tell the guys they have a friend, dude refers those girls to his rich friend and ya you got a puta driving a Benz LOL but none of those chicks are ever worth it. We need more forums like this so guys make better decisions and pay less for pussy.
    I think we need a thread just on all girls names. I think it would be hilarious to see how many guys are sponsoring the same girl LOL.

    These girls are very smart and know how to play each and every guy differently. They just don't bother with guys like me because I'm very direct and treat them like hookers when I tell them I need to come on your face or swallow my load.

    I'm known to overpay certain girls that are not fb girls. But I get exactly what I want. Every girl has a price even these girls who think they are princesses who have sugar daddies thinking they’re better than other hookers. Sometimes it’s worth paying the price if they’re hot enough.

    But there is obviously a group of higher end girls in this biz.

    I was just curious to know how much they could make because if they make a lot of $$ then you really lose some negotiating power. Especially with the higher end girls.

  7. #33593
    Quote Originally Posted by Mateocast98  [View Original Post]
    I've been sending friend requests and following girls on FB. None of them seem to add me back or respond to any messages, obviously if we are not friends they have to accept to see my messages. But only about two girls have done so. Am I doing something wrong?
    You don't have to be friend to send messages. If you click on the box with the 3 dots when you are on the page if will give you option message / search profile. Boom send that message. Where there is a will there is a way.

  8. #33592
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    I've been to mde 10 x in 2 years. I have a steady list of girls I stay in touch with. I have their social media pages. One girl always travels to miami cancun and Spain. These are obvious working places for prepagos.

    I'm asking because I'm starting to think they're is an exclusive group of girls who aren't on fb or advertising and only seeking a certain type of clientele. I have been with a couple girls who were quite expensive. Every once in a while I just want a stunner other times just a good blow job will do for 150 k.

    One girl told me she only works at Envy rooftop because any client she get there will pay 250 usd but she lucky to get one every 2 weeks.
    I think sometime we forget it's a lot of rich ass dudes who just got money to blow and yes those chicks are seeing those guys they tell the guys they have a friend, dude refers those girls to his rich friend and ya you got a puta driving a Benz LOL but none of those chicks are ever worth it. We need more forums like this so guys make better decisions and pay less for pussy.

  9. #33591
    Quote Originally Posted by Junior11  [View Original Post]
    JjBee62, BMo814,

    How do you find FB girls? FB search doesn't let one filter by age or even sex. Do you mine the list of followers of a known chica? Is there a better way?

    Thanks a lot!
    I'm no expert it was my first trip to MDE but the shit is easy. Takes a little work but easy. Find a girl in MDE where you can see her friends. Best if you can find a guy on her page where you can see his friends. For sure he has lots of prepagos and start sending friend request. Just keep clicking on girls you like and send them friend request. Of course it will take you time but be patient, also there are some you can't send friend request but send a message anyway and see if they will respond. I learned what I know from this forum read the forum and do what it says and boom. I personally think it helps to have a real fb page, if I was a prepago and you send me a message I'm going to look at your page and if I just see a couple pictures of nature maybe one or 2 of you I'm not really sure of who I'm dealing with. It's my real fb and I'm sure it helped they could see I'm a real person LOL. Also it helps to speak Spanish in my opinion. But just keep at it, I started maybe a month or so before I took my trip. Once you find a good one with lots of friends mine those hard for more friend. Eventually you will have at 10-20 friends, and between all the other options in Medellin for sure you will have a great time.

  10. #33590
    Quote Originally Posted by SJobs  [View Original Post]
    For the life of me, I couldn't figure out what went wrong with that gusto girl. It could be that I'm now more aware of the system in Medellin, which scared her, she knew that I now know that I'm significantly overpaying her.

    I have made the same mistakes. Then I learned not to think they think the way we do. They have a different educational background, social class, not to mention different culture. How can they think like you and me?

    This is my guess, for example, I think you don't lie like she does. That is why you did the half payment but you did not achieve the result you were expecting. That is one way they can take advantage of gringos. Now I just don't think about it. I simply say no and walk away and move on to the next like you eventually did.

    Another thing that I observe from your experience is overpaying doesn't gain you long term benefit.

    Thank you for posting your experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Here's a simple solution:

    Kick her to the curb. You don't have to be mean about it. I'd recommend being smart about it, but as soon as a girl starts demanding anything, she's gone.
    Totally agree with this.

  11. #33589
    Quote Originally Posted by PolloNegro  [View Original Post]
    But because we all run in different circles, I have yet to see these well to do chicas. What I can attest to is this, my dentist took two trips to the US once I had my teeth fixed. I felt it was a bargain, he was able to visit the US twice, girls in Audis, Real Rolexs, these are things I would love to see. I have seen Ferraris in Bogota, not so much in Medellin. But I have seen gringos who go crazy with the american dollar, so who knows. Pollo negro is out!
    I've been to mde 10 x in 2 years. I have a steady list of girls I stay in touch with. I have their social media pages. One girl always travels to miami cancun and Spain. These are obvious working places for prepagos.

    I'm asking because I'm starting to think they're is an exclusive group of girls who aren't on fb or advertising and only seeking a certain type of clientele. I have been with a couple girls who were quite expensive. Every once in a while I just want a stunner other times just a good blow job will do for 150 k.

    One girl told me she only works at Envy rooftop because any client she get there will pay 250 usd but she lucky to get one every 2 weeks.

  12. #33588

    Scared her LOL she saw the con is ending

    Quote Originally Posted by SJobs  [View Original Post]
    I started out my day with a 7-hour GFE session with one of my favorite 18-year-old fb girl. She is not the hottest, but pretty enough. Her service is out of this world. We fucked for many hours. It was a great experience. Total damage, 300 k. She washed my dishes, did my laundry and made my bed.

    At night time, I made an appointment with one of my favorite party girl at gusto. I have seen her at least 7 times. I always give her 500-700 k per night. (depending on my mood and her service level). We normally follow up with some hot morning sex. I have never under paid her, and I always paid in the morning by going to an ATM. For the most part, my night was going well, we drink, dance and made out just like usual. Around 3:45 am, we came back to my place, things all the sudden took an 180 degree turn.

    Right after entering my apartment, she opened a beer, grabbed some tussi and stormed into the bathroom. After a while, she came out and demanded 500 k payment upfront. I'm completely dumbfounded, this is not a random girl I just picked up for the night, I have seen this girl for 7+ times. We went to lunch together, I brought her a pair of shoes (very cheap, less than 50 dollars) at the Santa Fe mall, she never had Japanese food before, I introduced her to sushi. I was piss-drunk once that I couldn't wake up in the morning, she stayed with me until late afternoon, she had the chance to empty my apartment (my apple products alone is worth many thousands, even with depreciation), but instead, she just cuddled with me for hours until I regain consciousness.

    My immediate answer to her request is, NO Fucking Way. Then she told me, OK, call me a Uber, I'm leaving. I was like, What? I made my case to her; I told her just look at my apartment, the amount of money I just spent in gusto and the total amount I have paid you so far, how could you have any doubts about my ability to pay. However, she won't budge. Then I made the most naive mistake ever, I offered to pay her half now and half later. I didn't feel like looking for an ATM at 4:30 in the morning, I only had 10 dollars and 300 k pesos in my wallet. My thinking was that she might had a bad experience recently, she just want to be more careful. After all, we knew each other for months. After receiving the 300 k, she said she will go organize, then she stormed into the bathroom again. I was ready to put this episode behind us and move on to sex. But little did I know, the fun is just about to began.

    After spending couple of minutes in the bathroom, she came out with a stone cold face saying, "pay me the other 200 or call a Uber". At that very moment I knew I'm fucked, back in the days when I was a rookie monger, I use to make the mistake of giving the girls some money under the wrong negotiation condition. I put up a futile argument, mentioning all our history together and I even offered up my iPhone X and apple watch as collateral. To make things even more weird, I offered 10 dollars USD as a partial payment and she turned it down, it seems like she just want money out of the ATM. After repeatedly making the argument of my trustworthiness, she relented for about 5 minutes. She took some of her clothes off, and my hands was all over body. Then all the sudden, she pushed me away, asking for more money or no sex. She broke the Cardinal rule of prostitution. I'm fairly certain that she will keep asking for more money after receiving the 200 k, she will do this until my patient ran's out and kick her out. This is one way to maximize profit, in the very short term, without deliver the service. As long as I have a hard-on, she thinks she owns me. In the world of pay-to-play, this approach is as unethical as it gets..
    If I wrote everything I wanted to say it might take hours.

    You point out that you know you're overpaying her, well there are some basic rules of mongering maybe I can write a list tonight or others will jump in and volunteer.

    #1 never pay upfront.

    #2 never overpay (its seems you can see, all overpaying does is establish ones self as an easy mark) a hooker does not respect a monger that overpays.

    #3 don't beg her for pussy by "making your case".

    I paid upfront 3 x in my early days of mongering, both ended very badly the police were involved after each, after I ripped my money back out of her purse, this happened 3 x once I was maced in the back of the head really heavily as I was walking out the door 1 time was so crazy the police helicopter had its light on me in Las Vegas a hotel parking lot.

    I will admit I made that mistake 3 x in my rookie days drunk (BTW I quit drinking 20 yrs ago), but I took my money back all 3 times and never went to jail (and left with all of my money).

    If I was there trust me, she would not have left with your money or those new shoes.

  13. #33587

    No Way Jose

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    I too have had girls that I am pounding hard and ding ding ding ding, here cell phone goes off a few times and so she has to answer it, no shit as I keep plugging her hole she answer her cell, motioning for me to be quiet and not say anything, and I'm so close that I can almost clearly listen to the conversation and guess what it's her gringo boyfriend and after some blah blah blah their conversation is finished and then I finish, hehehehe.

    Guys never forget. She is not your girl. It's only your turn!

    The Tall Man.
    I don't tolerate that shit. I tell them not to answer their phone and shut it off. Next time you allow that behavior, when they pick up the phone to answer it, you should start moaning loudly, like your getting ready to blow a load, and see how quick the girl will end the call.

  14. #33586
    Quote Originally Posted by SJobs  [View Original Post]
    I started out my day with a 7-hour GFE session with one of my favorite 18-year-old fb girl. She is not the hottest, but pretty enough. Her service is out of this world. We fucked for many hours. It was a great experience. Total damage, 300 k. She washed my dishes, did my laundry and made my bed.

    At night time, I made an appointment with one of my favorite party girl at gusto. I have seen her at least 7 times. I always give her 500-700 k per night. (depending on my mood and her service level). We normally follow up with some hot morning sex. I have never under paid her, and I always paid in the morning by going to an ATM. For the most part, my night was going well, we drink, dance and made out just like usual. Around 3:45 am, we came back to my place, things all the sudden took an 180 degree turn.

    Right after entering my apartment, she opened a beer, grabbed some tussi and stormed into the bathroom. After a while, she came out and demanded 500 k payment upfront. I'm completely dumbfounded, this is not a random girl I just picked up for the night, I have seen this girl for 7+ times. We went to lunch together, I brought her a pair of shoes (very cheap, less than 50 dollars) at the Santa Fe mall, she never had Japanese food before, I introduced her to sushi. I was piss-drunk once that I couldn't wake up in the morning, she stayed with me until late afternoon, she had the chance to empty my apartment (my apple products alone is worth many thousands, even with depreciation), but instead, she just cuddled with me for hours until I regain consciousness.

    My immediate answer to her request is, NO Fucking Way. Then she told me, OK, call me a Uber, I'm leaving. I was like, What? I made my case to her; I told her just look at my apartment, the amount of money I just spent in gusto and the total amount I have paid you so far, how could you have any doubts about my ability to pay. However, she won't budge. Then I made the most naive mistake ever, I offered to pay her half now and half later. I didn't feel like looking for an ATM at 4:30 in the morning, I only had 10 dollars and 300 k pesos in my wallet. My thinking was that she might had a bad experience recently, she just want to be more careful. After all, we knew each other for months. After receiving the 300 k, she said she will go organize, then she stormed into the bathroom again. I was ready to put this episode behind us and move on to sex. But little did I know, the fun is just about to began..
    Here's a simple solution:

    Kick her to the curb. You don't have to be mean about it. I'd recommend being smart about it, but as soon as a girl starts demanding anything, she's gone.

    Imagine going into a restaurant and the waitress demanding a 100% tip before she'll show you the menu. Are you sticking around for that?

    Why would you let a puta get away with that? I don't care what she looks like, how well she fucks, or if she can suck a golf ball through a garden hose while humming "Yankee Doodle Dandy." I'm not paying her to peg me.

    She tried to make you her ***** and she succeeded. She had even given you all the signs: trying to get you to spend unnecessary money, steering you towards overpriced crap. She finally decided to see if you were ready to be her little lapdog and you begged her for the opportunity, before finally remembering who had the testicles.

    I'm being harsh, but you need a smack up side of your head to bring you to your senses. Pay what you want, but wake up and realize it doesn't buy you anything, other than headaches. Party like you want but realize you're playing Russian Roulette every time.

  15. #33585
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    I was very tired when I wrote that post, I meant to write GILF not MILF (1 letter typo) I'm guessing the age many girls give birth the 1st time maybe around 15-16 yrs old, so by 30 yo many are grandmothers and great grandmothers by 45 yrs old and great great grandmothers by 60 yo, its seems bizzare and offensive to suggest that mongers that don't want an over 30 GILF (or MILF) may be looking for children. Is this a case of.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...sweet%20lemons
    I'm occasionally (or frequently) offensive. Unfortunately, there are guys who go to Colombia looking for children. Fortunately, if they're caught in Colombia, their days of looking for children are likely over.

    When I look through my chica list, I see about 2% who are over 30, about 5% who look about 30,70% looking in the 20-30 range, 20% around 18-20 and 3% that I'm going to insist on seeing a cedula before discussing anything.

    Most are slim to slender, a few bordering on anorexic and a few who are on the thin side of thick, with a couple of chunkers tossed in. Whatever your preference, you can find it.

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