Medellin Reports

[SlapShot10]

I had an opportunity last night to change the Medellin Puta Market forever. I had a trio lined up with a smoke show. She was the wingwoman of my amiga when I went to Gusto's, a couple weeks back. They roped-in $300 each from a couple of gringos that night. So, we have everything planned for last night, and as we're ironing out the details (address), I ask the price. Shocker. $300. I say, "I don't have dollars. " She says ok, 500 k for you and 500 k for your novia. Example 7 million of a Paisa not knowing the conversion rate, but she wasn't too far off. Although, I guarantee she'd have said the same when it was 4200/1. I tell her I'm not paying the bobo gringo Gusto weekend warrior special price. She says 900 k for both, 800 k for both. I tell her if she wants to be the most expensive puta I've been with in the last 9 months, that's fine, but that means she's getting 550 k. She starts laughing and says that would be the lowest she's ever taken, and no way. My phone dies. 15 mins later we continue. I offer 700 k in a last-ditch effort. She accepts, but says she'll eat dinner at home first, and that she won't be able to stay long.

Now, Pinky wasn't feeling 100% even though she was looking the part, when I got home. So, I may have been trying to spoil my own party, but any time a girl has laughed or been cocky in negotiations, I don't think I've ever followed through. I ask, "2 veces?" and she flips. She told me to stop messaging her and that I'm cheap, etc. I kindly let her know that I fucked her wingwoman for free, and that she can have a good night. I refrained from saying what was really on my mind, about how her pussy is not worth 3 times more, and her attitude certainly has proven it's not worth more. Anyway, I was excited about the prospect of that trio, but the price is just too high, even if I can afford it and would do it daily, in the US.

I think I've been here too long, and done too much, to do a final trip report. That being said, it was amazing. Life-changing. I appreciate all the banter, information, criticism, etc etc etc from everyone. I'll probably be back in 3 weeks, but it will feel like 3 years.

Cheers.

[LatinaLover#1]

For God shake in US you speak English and you can communicate with a girl. Ok, let's say you are an 8 then what? If you don't speak Spanish and the girl doesn't speak English why the hell should choose you instead of choosing someone else who can speak Spanish and makes her feel nice? What do you have to offer to her? What makes someone so special who doesn't even speak spanish to a non-pro girl?

And you 're saying that you have a US passport. So what? What do you mean by that? That you offer her a chance to dream that maybe one day she will move in the US? Does she really want to move in the US? If she doesn't would it be better for her to find someone who can afford her life expenses and stay in her country with her family and friends? Oops! Here is where money come in. Eventually whether a girl is a pro or a non-pro you 'll pay no matter what, you won't pay for sex but you 'll pay for a bunch of other stuff.

IMHO the only thing that matters about your looks is if your clean and dress trendy, Colombians, like most Latinas, don't want to be seen with a dirt bag. I've had lot's of success with non pros over the years, nurses, models, students ect. The most important thing to make it with non pros is you need some GAME and enough Spanish to communicate without making a conversation too much work to speak to each other. And of course some cash. Don't be a cheapskate but don't be a pendejo by giving her everything she wants. In Latin culture, a women needs to see the man as the leader and a set of balls to put her in her place if she gets out of control. Be sweet, respectful but keep her under your control. This has always worked for me.

[LatinaLover#1]

I pay hoes. I don't pay chicks that are not hoes.

Actually I pay them to leave).

[Bookie77]

I disagree. If you are an average-looking guy, say 5-6/10, in another country you could easily turn into solid 7 or even 8. You just need to look slightly better than their average local dude. And this can be easily achieved, if you dress and smell nicely. If you differ from local guys and look exotic to girls, you can score 1 or 2 extra points. Being a foreigner helps a lot in many countries, especially if you speak local language, most girls would find your accent sexy.

I'm an average looking guy in my mid 30's. Here in the US once in a while I can bang average looking (6/10) non-pros, if I really want to and put a little bit of effort. But I like them young and hot, so my standards are higher and 7-8's are out of my league unless they are pros and I pay. When I go to my home country I can fuck 7-8's non pros, because I got those extra points added and look better than an average local dude and have a US passport. When girls see you as 7-8, there is really no need to pay pros, when you can bang 7-8's freebies, because technically you are now on the same level.

For God shake in US you speak English and you can communicate with a girl. Ok, let's say you are an 8 then what? If you don't speak Spanish and the girl doesn't speak English why the hell should choose you instead of choosing someone else who can speak Spanish and makes her feel nice? What do you have to offer to her? What makes someone so special who doesn't even speak spanish to a non-pro girl?

And you 're saying that you have a US passport. So what? What do you mean by that? That you offer her a chance to dream that maybe one day she will move in the US? Does she really want to move in the US? If she doesn't would it be better for her to find someone who can afford her life expenses and stay in her country with her family and friends? Oops! Here is where money come in. Eventually whether a girl is a pro or a non-pro you 'll pay no matter what, you won't pay for sex but you 'll pay for a bunch of other stuff.

[Revere]

This conversation is killing me. Just shows how out of touch a lot of you are with reality keep thinking looks most important thing. You know the easiest way to pull a non pro chick in a Latin American country is to be able to dance. Hot chicks like to go out with there friends and dance and most of you all cannot dance. If you can walk into a club by yourself, and trust me you can ask a chick in a group and if you can dance game over as the whole club will see that. Now that is called swag / confidence and now every chick in the club knows you can dance and you will pull a chick. The problem is most of you all do not make the effort. You can dance Salsa, Bachata, Reggaetone and hip hop any club you walk into you will be fine and will do well as you make a chick feel good in front of people you do not need to speak to make that happen. Do not listen to advice on here just stand behind a girl and let her dance to Reggaetone you will look like a dork.

Just so you know top 5 artists listened too worldwide on spotify: 1. Bad Bunny 2. Drake 3. J Belvin 4. Juice World. 5. The Weekend. You see a pattern here Reggaetone and Hip- Hop is what young chicks are dancing too. Unfortunately, a lot of you want young chicks, but hate hip hop and Reggaetone which young chicks love. A walking contradiction.

Take us home Drake:

https://youtu.be/lJTRVX9R5EA

[Incrociatore]

Yeah, I rented a car in Medellin and went to Rio Claro. Anyone looking for a fun excursion from MDE should look into it. The roads were good but the mountains made a quick trip tough. I looked at google maps on how long the trip. Rio Claro is only 73 miles from MDE but it takes five hours. Still, the roads were in good condition. I just spent a lot of times on a 2 lane road behind some very slow moving trucks. I know people may be worried about coverage but AMEX has a great policy for renting cars abroad.

From their site: AmEx Premium Car Rental Protection is an optional insurance package that can be purchased for an additional one-time fee of $24.95 per qualifying rental. This add-on upgrades the typical American Express rental car coverage to a primary insurance that offers additional protections such as coverage for longer rental periods (up to 45 days), a wider array of covered vehicles (up to $100,000 in value), and the added bonus of secondary insurance for personal injuries and property damage in the event of an accident. Incidents that occur with primary insurance such as this will not affect the driver's personally-owned vehicle's insurance in any way.

I think this type of coverage is also offered by the travel insurance, at least mine covers it, whatever I use to pay for the rent. But good to know. I don't have an AMEX anymore indeed. I was tempted to rent the car in Sao Paulo, but in the end I got Uber all the time. I think I would have saved a bit to be honest and tha car would have served me well, but at least I didn't get stressed int he traffic.

[Sangnyc21]

I disagree. If you are an average-looking guy, say 5-6/10, in another country you could easily turn into solid 7 or even 8. You just need to look slightly better than their average local dude. And this can be easily achieved, if you dress and smell nicely. If you differ from local guys and look exotic to girls, you can score 1 or 2 extra points. Being a foreigner helps a lot in many countries, especially if you speak local language, most girls would find your accent sexy.

I'm an average looking guy in my mid 30's. Here in the US once in a while I can bang average looking (6/10) non-pros, if I really want to and put a little bit of effort. But I like them young and hot, so my standards are higher and 7-8's are out of my league unless they are pros and I pay. When I go to my home country I can fuck 7-8's non pros, because I got those extra points added and look better than an average local dude and have a US passport. When girls see you as 7-8, there is really no need to pay pros, when you can bang 7-8's freebies, because technically you are now on the same level.

I understand your line of thought.

A couple things based on what I have experienced.

You'll never date a girl and fuck her for free.

While you may not actually have to pay for sex itself no girl will give it up for a cup of coffee and taxi fare.

You'll be required to take her out pay her cab fares and maybe more than once before you even score with her.

Also, this is not Mexico or Guatemala or Honduras.

The men of this country are not considered unattractive men.

While I don't compare myself to them or don't care for their looks, if the locals treated their women right, we wouldn't have a shot.

Your passport doesn't mean anything here.

This might be a poor country but it's not third world poor.

To achieve what you're looking for communication is key. If you can't make them laugh or talk to them then things with normal girls will be tough unless they can speak English.

And just like all other cultures confidence is key.

[Mr Enternational]

god bless you if you aren't paying hoes for sex. Thats between you the girls and nobody else.

I pay hoes. I don't pay chicks that are not hoes.

[MarquisdeSade1]

I think most of us understand there is a small sense of shame when a man has to pay for sex..

LMAO.

Not me I'm proud to pay for pussy!

There used to be a saying in the hood in the 80's.

"there ain't no shame to my game" LOL.

Guys that think there is honor in being a chump to women and the rigged system, ought to be ashamed!

[Njoean197]

Because you are saying you just want to fuck these chicks that you already have qualifications for but have not even met or have no idea how you will meet them. So for you it is a game. She has to be an 8 and you will get bent out of shape if she is not fucking by the second time you see her. And you expected "pressured" sex to be any better than transactional sex? I would go as far as to say the former is below the latter.

Hilarious. It seems most guys on this site feel guilty if they don't give a chick money after sex. You know how many times on this site that I have been told I was wrong because I did not give money to a chick that was not a hooker? Time and time again guys want to date hookers and make hookers out of quality chicks they should be dating.

Haha Big Dog Mr. E, I am doing as I always do when it comes to women. I am rolling in, being myself, and hopefully at the end of the night they want to fuck. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. And as always, I explain I am not looking for anything serious, just looking for someone to enjoy some time with. I never said I would get bent out of shape, nor would I ever do that, its not my style. If I sense my time is being wasted and the woman is not interested, I simply just don't schedule a second date. Why would the sex be pressured? I am assuming a Casanova like yourself has fucked dozens of girls on the first date without the sex being pressured. Again if this is a Medellin thing with girls and they are known to give "pressured sex" I apologize for my negligence haha. I guess this is "using" women for sex and I am guilty of this. Yes in a sense, it is like a game, but I am very upfront that I have absolutely no desire for a long term relationship. Personally I think its odd to even bring up "using" someone on a monger forum, but again to each there own.

I apologize if I didn't articulate exactly what I mean't by stating I feel guilty after sex. I don't feel guilt for getting free sex and feeling obligated for a monetary compensation for sex with them. I feel guilt that I am even paying for sex and not married and spending my time and resources raising a family and being an honorable husband. I think most of us understand there is a small sense of shame when a man has to pay for sex. Thats what I meant when I stated I feel guilty. I have absolutely no desire to turn any girl into a hooker nor I do I have any desire to turn a hooker into my girl. Again totally not my style.

And for the record, what you do with your money is none of my fucking business, god bless you if you aren't paying hoes for sex. Thats between you the girls and nobody else.

[Mr Enternational]

What do you mean by "use" someone?

Because you are saying you just want to fuck these chicks that you already have qualifications for but have not even met or have no idea how you will meet them. So for you it is a game. She has to be an 8 and you will get bent out of shape if she is not fucking by the second time you see her. And you expected "pressured" sex to be any better than transactional sex? I would go as far as to say the former is below the latter.

To be honest, there are times I feel like a piece of shit for paying for sex and the guilt does bother me. Its nice to fuck a girl where there is a mutual attraction and I don't feel the shame and guilt of paying for sex.

Hilarious. It seems most guys on this site feel guilty if they don't give a chick money after sex. You know how many times on this site that I have been told I was wrong because I did not give money to a chick that was not a hooker? Time and time again guys want to date hookers and make hookers out of quality chicks they should be dating.

[Combo]

If you want to look "exotic," you'd better stay far away from Poblado. Or better yet, go to a small town in Colombia. The days of a Gringo looking exotic in Medellin are long gone. Like by 15-20 years.

And the local dudes are for the most part good-looking and dress nicely. If you look better than the average local dude, you likely look better than most visiting gringos.

I disagree. If you are an average-looking guy, say 5-6/10, in another country you could easily turn into solid 7 or even 8. You just need to look slightly better than their average local dude. And this can be easily achieved, if you dress and smell nicely. If you differ from local guys and look exotic to girls, you can score 1 or 2 extra points. Being a foreigner helps a lot in many countries, especially if you speak local language, most girls would find your accent sexy.

I'm an average looking guy in my mid 30's. Here in the US once in a while I can bang average looking (6/10) non-pros, if I really want to and put a little bit of effort. But I like them young and hot, so my standards are higher and 7-8's are out of my league unless they are pros and I pay. When I go to my home country I can fuck 7-8's non pros, because I got those extra points added and look better than an average local dude and have a US passport. When girls see you as 7-8, there is really no need to pay pros, when you can bang 7-8's freebies, because technically you are now on the same level.

[MiamiBoy1]

Regardless I assume there are plenty of guys who read this forum and do not post who are curious like I am what the non-pro scene in Colombia is like. I gained a lot of useful knowledge from this forum and I am just trying to contribute back with what I experience. I also completely understand what you have told me several times that fucking non-pro girls depends totally on my own personal ability.

I'm in the same boat. Looking forward to your reports!

[MiamiBoy1]

As others have stated, if you're a good-looking guy that girls throw themselves at in the US (or wherever you live), you will likewise attract non-pro chicas in Colombia. To move beyond attraction to fucking them, it also helps to have time on the ground. Visits of 7-10 days are not conducive to fucking non-pros, even if you're devilishly handsome.

If you're not particularly attractive, going to another country is not going to make you so. Girls in Colombian are every bit as superficial as girls in the US.

I disagree. If you are an average-looking guy, say 5-6/10, in another country you could easily turn into solid 7 or even 8. You just need to look slightly better than their average local dude. And this can be easily achieved, if you dress and smell nicely. If you differ from local guys and look exotic to girls, you can score 1 or 2 extra points. Being a foreigner helps a lot in many countries, especially if you speak local language, most girls would find your accent sexy.

I'm an average looking guy in my mid 30's. Here in the US once in a while I can bang average looking (6/10) non-pros, if I really want to and put a little bit of effort. But I like them young and hot, so my standards are higher and 7-8's are out of my league unless they are pros and I pay. When I go to my home country I can fuck 7-8's non pros, because I got those extra points added and look better than an average local dude and have a US passport. When girls see you as 7-8, there is really no need to pay pros, when you can bang 7-8's freebies, because technically you are now on the same level.

[Nounce]

As others have stated, if you're a good-looking guy that girls throw themselves at in the US (or wherever you live), you will likewise attract non-pro chicas in Colombia. To move beyond attraction to fucking them, it also helps to have time on the ground. Visits of 7-10 days are not conducive to fucking non-pros, even if you're devilishly handsome.

If you're not particularly attractive, going to another country is not going to make you so. Girls in Colombian are every bit as superficial as girls in the US.

The bar is pretty high. It is to fuck 8 and above non pros with higher level of intimacy for free without speaking the language within 2 dates.