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12-24-21 22:20 #2538
Posts: 1163Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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12-24-21 15:46 #2537
Posts: 2818Originally Posted by NeilGeorge [View Original Post]
I am having the best time of my life thanks to SA, I am heading back to CDMX late Christmas night. I have been there 3 of the last 4 weekends. I am averaging 2-3 sessions daily. I have accomplished this in a short period of time. I am still figuring out the city. I will make CDMX my second home. I will bust ass working in America for 10-12 days, then the 4-5 days in M. City, I can work remotely a few days. The best of both worlds.
Plus I will be flying out of MTY, much cheaper, no covid requirement and I can spend one night with the model. So good.
Dedicated to Elvis, the man in love. I am happy for you unlike some of the other guys. I did invite the model to move to CDMX. I told her I would take care of the apartment and other expenses, plus she would get an allowance, but she had to work. We have been together for over 1.5 years, I do love her and she love me, but we can not cross the finish line. She does have major family issues, very controlling parents. We will see what happens.
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12-24-21 08:33 #2536
Posts: 417Scammer (TManager) in Medellin
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Elvis and others: there is a person (I have met her) who uses SA to find SD's for selling them on dates, taking them along with the girls either she has info on file or get them from girls in your personal SA account. She asks for your SA account and and password She will send you "Manager Documents" for this info and much more. Real name is Hosnellys Stukerman from Venezuela nelly5496@gmail.com I have her phone (maybe still active) she claims to be an attorney. She has more than one SA account. Currently it's Tmanager she is very good looking and believable. My friend says she is a good kisser. LOL Well she does charge $15/ hour to impersonate you and make dates for you from your SA contacts. Then she will call them herself and pimp them out later on. In some ways all this is ok in Colombia but not calling and destroying my credibility with the many girls I had spent a time talking to before my trip to Medellin. Her advice included things like, "say you will take them on a trip and pay them $600/ day" she also tried to get "investors" for a business doing this. Or other busine to open a tour company. All BS LOL and asked another ISG member for $. In Colombia half the cab drivers are pimps or tour guides so it's not that uncommon or even a big deal when you know what you are getting. . but they don't know how to access SA for girls numbers and leads. Anyone wants her photo or her "contract forms" let me know. This all happened in July & August. A lot more details, like what I gave her (scmed from me) etc. I just found a new account of here so I am posting. Just beware.
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12-23-21 21:45 #2535
Posts: 300Price is supposed to be going up after January 1
Originally Posted by Akibono [View Original Post]
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12-23-21 06:57 #2534
Posts: 1163The cost of a SA membership seems to be constantly rising. I don't think the product is getting better. I have some ideas why it may be happening. But I would like any opinions people want to share.
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12-22-21 02:19 #2533
Posts: 369Uhhh. Good
Thanks, not sure if that's relief or not. LOL.
Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
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12-22-21 02:15 #2532
Posts: 2738Not Same
Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver [View Original Post]
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12-22-21 00:17 #2531
Posts: 369Kayla
Without telling me any more than you need to Steve. Is Kayla a stage name and are you paying or did you negotiate down from a 4 digit ppm ask? A Kayla has her hooks in me tight and it's a double stage name, she's got the profile name, the first meet name, and the real name when consummated. Just wondering if we're the same instrument being played by a master. Mine has no issue going out as she's fairly new to the area so she's not going to run into anyone she knows. But God damn do I want to give her my entire allowance. What an angel of a girl.
Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
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12-21-21 23:20 #2530
Posts: 2738Persistence and Changing Tides
So some of you may recall Layla from last year. We met in August 2020 and were pretty regular throughout the last year till April. Kinda heavy but that face. OMG. It slays me. Fucking her while she smiles a thousand watt smile and stares deep into your eyes is really legendary.
Anyhow she became gainfully employed and impossibly busy. We've had three failed meetups since April. And frankly I was pretty frustrated. Of course I saw other girls. But circumstances change. Her restaurant shutdown for the winter and I guess that leads to monetary needs! Because guess who's interested in getting regular again? We met up recently and honestly it was awesome. She’s lost weight, she's working hard to please me and she looks dynamite.
Moral of the story? Always keep girls on the roster. A lot don't have the steadiest employment and when that fades you are suddenly the most interesting man in the world! LOL. Anyhow enjoying it while It lasts.
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12-19-21 07:52 #2529
Posts: 277Great Report and Well Done
Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
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12-17-21 16:31 #2528
Posts: 369Nice
One thing I'd add. Meet them ASAP once the topic comes up. If you talk to them last night about meeting and confirm a meeting time / place at 10 am the dext day for 8 pm that night you have just given them 10 hours to find someone better looking, willing to pay more, bigger dick, whatever. If the topic of meeting comes up last night then meet her that night. I've been burnt by this a couple times and learned my lesson. I can't believe the quality of girls I'm getting to come over, just beautiful. My house and car are both panty droppers but I never discuss them, I let them see them for themselves and that closes the deal without having to say a thing. I've had girls tell me they don't sleep over but as soon as they walk in will say "I could totally crash here." Freaking brilliant! You do need some money though. You can't fake it with top teir girls.
Price ranges below are accurate as well. Any more than $600 and I'm out.
Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
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12-17-21 16:10 #2527
Posts: 2738Updated Guide to Seeking
Since I wrote my guide early in my journey, I've updated a bit. Plus new readers here. So here's the way I play it.
So how do you do it properly? I suppose this could vary widely depending on what you are after. But I am after a girl who FEELS like a girlfriend. She's affectionate, appreciates an evening above her usual stature in life, and is able to actually enjoy herself with you. She views the allowance / gift (I. E. Money!) as a bonus. Not the only thing she is after. Any girl where I feel money is the primary motivation and she will go with anyone for a high enough price, gets kicked straight to the curb. She's got to be a girlfriend first, and any "benefits" come second.
Knowing that this is the kind of girl I want to attract (and other guys I have talked to also find this persona the most attractive), there is a set of rules you have to play by. Understand that SA is NOT AT ALL like picking up hookers. It is much more like meeting a girl in a bar and seducing her to leave with you. It's just an online bar. Sure you need money, but you also need some texting game and you need to treat her with respect. If you do, you have a chance of closing the deal. However, the moment you disrespect her, she will be gone.
The most important rule when vibing with a girl and getting a meeting set up is: never discuss sex or money. These things will be implied and they will be done offline. Never discuss sex or money on the Seeking Arrangements platform and really never discuss sex at all. As soon as you are that explicit, the kind of girl you are after will feel disrespected and ghost you in no time flat. Plus, it can get you booted from SA for life if you are reported. Don't worry, there are ways to have this conversation properly, explained below.
Start your engagement with a girl with some light chat and flirt. Your opener should be something specific to her that you read in her profile -- not something generic. And ALWAYS end every message with a question. This prompts her to respond. If you don't ask a question, she will not take the initiative and the conversation will just die. You have to drive it; and you drive with questions. Get her to tell you a few things about herself: what she likes to eat, her favorite wine, dog or cat person. It doesn't really matter what you discuss; just something that will get her to engage a bit.
At some point you will establish that you like each other reasonably well and one or the other will suggest taking the conversation off of SA and over to text. If she goes there in the first few exchanges, she is probably a hooker. If she doesn't ask for a pic pretty early on, she is probably a hooker. Often, I am the one to suggest going over to private phone text. You can keep it pretty innocuous, saying you notice she is not on often and it might be easier to connect up by text. But don't do it too early – this spooks the nice girls. Have a conversation over a few days and then take it off SA to texting.
Once you are texting, pick up the thread you had going and continue a little friendly chat. At some point, you will suggest that you think you vibe well and should meet up. Most often she will agree and now its time to establish that you will have sex (without saying it!) and how much is the agreed price (without saying it's a price! Some guys cover the price discussion in person, but I find that awkward and always set it ahead of time.
Once she's said "yeah, lets meetup" I say I want to describe our date to her (this is how I introduce the sex topic without getting explicit.) I usually say something about going out for dinner or drinks and having an epic time, laughing a lot and if the chemistry is right spending some private time (or intimate time or adult time -- insert your favorite euphemism -- but never say SEX!) or on the off chance we don't vibe, we can part after dinner no harm no foul. And ask if that sounds about right to them. Most often, if they are the kind of girl you are after, they will be down with this description and say, sure that sounds good.
This opens the door for the pricing discussion. I usually say something like "Of course I'the want to give you a gift / allowance. Did you have something in mind?" and the negotiation is underway. Never ever say "what's your price" or "how much do you charge for PPM". Always use the approach above, that you want to give them something. Sometimes, she will say she doesn't know and get you to give the first figure (good negotiating tactic on her part, but often they are in fact new). I am OK with this and say "well, what I've done before is 300. I hope that works for you. " (note no $ sign).
As far as what you should pay, I've found a strong correlation between what a pretty hooker charges for an hour (in a given city) to be what an SA girl will take for an evening. I'the say (pre-pandemic) most big US cities $400 is reasonable for a pretty girl (lots will ask more – I just kick them to the curb) with SF and NYC more like $500. In second tier cities, $300 should do it and I've found a few gems at $200 (though more in the 6-7 category). During the pandemic, I've found a lot of these girls are struggling, so if they ask 500, when 400 is more correct, I usually don't push them on it and just go with what they asked.
Once you have the "we are going to have sex, right" -- without saying it -- and money discussion out of the way, you should be good to go. Just keep on with the flirty texts without being too frequent, clingy or annoying and then meet up at the appointed day and time. More often than not, if you are not terribly objectionable looking, have a little bit of charm, and follow the "let's get out of here" model you might use with a regular pickup, you will end up in the room with your girl and have a rocking time.
Having done this alot (more than 30 times in many different cities), I've found that having sex on the first date is super important. The few times I've had a platonic date (especially a non-alcoholic one) to be followed by sex on the second date – it never happens. You have to take the momentum on that first date and take it all the way to the bedroom. Remember girls are submissive and will largely follow your lead – even if that lead is to the hotel room.
Finally, I should note that how much time you spend with her is largely up to her and how well you vibe. It's not something you negotiate, like you would with a hooker. Most times it will probably be 3-4 hours including dinner and sex, after which she might say she needs to get home. But, in my experience, about 50% of girls sleep over. It's not something you discuss. It just happens. You cuddle after sex and next thing you know she's taking off her necklace to the bedside table. Bingo!
Seeking is absolutely the best, if you take the time to find the gems amongst the bullshit and follow the above guide.
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12-17-21 08:19 #2526
Posts: 1163Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
Sure, that sounds good now, but after a few years, they all let themselves go and the sex becomes less and less. That is the typical route of marriage. There are always exceptions to the rule, but they are rare. There are just some girls that are real nice that like to take care of their man.
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12-16-21 21:28 #2525
Posts: 300Banned from SA
Originally Posted by EverythingBlue [View Original Post]
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12-16-21 03:12 #2524
Posts: 158Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]