Seeking Arrangements

[LshRoomer]

You guys might get a kick out of this one.

Pulled her from SA. Her pics were sexy, she was pretty and the conversation was engaging. Also there were no signs of escort. Possibly hobby working girl, but not full on escort (100% income from the trade). I used my cookie cutter line that it's important to me to make sure that my sb leaves with at least x (region specific amount $$) dollars, often more. It takes the edges off of the business side of things just slightly, ever so slightly as it sets a floor but no ceiling, but it is clear that the amount above the floor is up to my discretion. I've found this to work very well with EU Sbs. Our number was 350. She happily accepted before moving over texts. I told her my idea of the sb / sd dynamic and she was happy with my perception. I kept the oven warm with texts before I arrived to town but was sure not to spam her.

Set the date and we had scheduling conflicts because of her work. Finally nailed down a time. She texted me and said something like, "hey baby, we need to talk about how you are going to take care of me". We had already talked about this in detail and it's clear to see in the text history, so I responded with that exactly. Her response was apologetic and we moved on. She seemed quite aloof during most of our interactions, kinda like she was high or something, kinda forgetful with obvious things. This further gave me red flag vibes, but she was cute and I wanted to extract some measure of success from ATL, especially after the failure from the night before. She mentioned that she had work at night, so she couldn't stay out too late; My offer was to go out to get food / drink early around 5 or just have champagne at my place. She opted for the champagne. At this point, my red flags are validated, but I still wanted to bang her.

She called an Uber and came over. When I laid eyes on her at the gate, waiting for me to let her in, I noticed a few things in those first 15 seconds. Her tits looks amazing and bigger than I thought, she was short (good size), she had an awesome ass, she hugged and was warm, her body was hot (like a stacked slim girl with a long curly hair and a pretty face), she had braces, and she didn't recognize me as I approached the gate (sent her clear pics). I got comfortable as soon as we entered the apartment by taking off my shoes and she followed suit. She took off her shoes and started checking the place out; she was impressed (I usually rent nice Apartment when I don't do hotels). She mentioned that she was 19 and didn't know why her profile said 21, then followed up asking if I'm a fan of banging young girls. I actually get along with girls that have a bit more life experience, so starting at around 22/23 is usually my sweet spot. Poured the champagne, put on some music and got the conversation going. We were sitting at the bar chatting and I slowly moved over to the ottoman. She followed again and stood in front of me putting her hands on my shoulders, so replied by grabbing her ass and it was soft and round; a very nice ass. While still standing there with my hands on her ass and rubbing her back, she told me that she wants to get a neck tattoo. At the time it seemed like a strange conversation shift and topic. I was curious as to where she was going to get the tattoo, so I asked if she was thinking a side of the neck tat or front. LOL. She pulled down her turtleneck (sleeveless, belly showing shirt with a turtleneck) and showed me about 5 or 6 slashes across the front of her neck and explained that she recently tried to kill herself in Vegas about 2-3 months ago. WTF! She mentioned that she was sober at the time and just decided to end it by taking a knife and slashing at her throat. In the hospital, they asked if she was on drugs and found none. I did not dig deeper into that. There are some questions you don't ask.

She sat down in front of me and started rubbing her feet on mine and her leg on mine, all while I start rubbing her thighs. She stood up in front of me again and said that she was hot and asked if it was okay for her to take her pants off. Who is going to say no to that?? She started to undo her pants and as she pulled them down I saw a bunch of unshaven pubs with a beautiful thong. Cupped her ass again and stood up to embrace her energy. She said a few things trying to be sexy and it just didn't' do it for me. I especially don't like being called Daddy. However, I don't mind Papi the least bit (I know it means the same). She kept up with the sexy talk and I'm just not a sexy talk guy. I prefer physical energy than verbal energy. To each his own. I took off her shirt and was excited to see those big tits. When I finally removed the bra, her tits were nice, but probably a be, while her bra makes them look like a the cup. The overall shape was great, so my disappointed was assuaged pretty quickly. She asked if we should have sex in the living room or the bedroom, I replied by picking her up by her thighs and walked into the next room.

The bed was the perfect height for the drilling that was about to come. She sat on the bed grinding her V against me as I stood in front of her stroking her hair and kissing her neck. I threw her legs in the air in order to dine at the why. This was going to be a short meal, as the major purpose was to check things out and see if I need to abort. All fresh and clean so I tasted it and she seemed to respond quite well. Put on the bag and went in it slow. It's wasn't tight, but you could feel walls around you. I started slow using a odd deep thrust count (Deep, shallow shallow deep, and so on making each odd number a deep thrust). She must have really dug this, as with each deep thrust, she would squeeze my wrist or bit my arm, all while I have a fist of her hair behind her head controlling her posture and supporting it (you got to be supportive, hahaha). I love then girl squeeze their own tits. As she is squeezing them, we go forehead to forehead just pounding away. She started with the Daddy talk again so I just grabbed her jaw and kissed her face. It was a bit sensual but more kept her from her sext Daddy talk that wasn't sexy. Moved over to doggy and she starts asking me ot finish. She was wet as a fish and tried to limit my depth. After about 5 minutes doggy, I pulled out and bust in the bag. While doing this, she put one leg on the bed and started shaking her ass like a stripper. Again, I can see how some guys might have really enjoyed that, but for me, it was meh.

While she was in the shower, I put 360 under her phone, assuming that she, like most people, would check her phone after getting dressed. I didn't need her to stay as I had already put in my mind that she wasn't an SB, as evidence by the fact that we never kissed once. I've had escorts that will go for a kiss if you get too close to their face. Tested the same with her and got nothing. Didn't complain, just continued. She entered the living room after showering came over to the couch, saying that's exactly what she needed. She then asked in a trying-to-be-sexy voice for the $500. $500? At this point, she is leaning over in front, face to face, supporting her weight with her hands on my thighs. My response was that we agreed to 350, multiple times, and this is fully verifiable in the text history. She started to say that if it was 350 that she wouldn't have. Then she stopped herself. She took the 350 and asked if I had cashapp. I responded that I do, but an agreement must be honored or we crumble as a society. Hahahaha. There was a hug as she left and that was it. One and done. Very nice and I don't intend on ever repeating. Too fake and she's probably used to switching at the last minute and using guilt as a tactic.

02.

[DramaFree11]

Videochat would have helped me recently.

I had a recent experience in ATL. I was in town for a few days, so I decided to check out the local SA talent. It was a pain in the ass, with lots of energy / texts input for less than desirable output. I lined up two dates. One was with a girl that was a 7.5 or 8 in the pics. She sent quite a few and she was bangable, without a doubt. Set up the meet at a bar, even though she was willing ot meet at my place (red flag. I want sb, not escort). Still I'm an experience seeker, so I wondered where the road would take me. As soon as I walked into the bar and saw her, her 7. 5 dropped to a 3. 5. Her neck almost looked like it disappeared (high shoulders, strange posture) and her face was really bad. Even as I sat there drinking my beer, I wasn't too happy with her body either, skinny (I love em thin) but not alluring. And the icing on the cake was that her conversation left much to be desired, like she had a mental deficiency or something. She even told me that her ex BF said that she wasn't smart enough to become a flight attendant. LOL I left and called it a night and she was not happy. On top of all that, she wanted 4 bills and told me that she usually get 5, but was willing to work with me. Which one of you bastards is paying this girl 5 bills? Hahahaha. I should have video chatted, but up until this point, it hasn't been a necessity.

Girl #2 was a success, but still had some American stuff going on. Putting that one in a separate thread.

Yep, I had many similar situations. They all say they are getting $500, maybe $300. Video Chats are a must in the states or you will waste way too much time.

Also, you must meet in a public place for the first meeting, way too dangerous now.

[LshRoomer]

Video Chat is a must in the states, for verification and security purposes. I do not Video Chat in MTY, due to my poor Latin. Also, the girls get embarrassed because of their poor English skills. I would lose a lot of opportunities if I required this in MTY.

However I did require Video Chat sessions in CDMX, but most of the girls in CDMX are way more educated then the MTY girls. I hope this helps.

Videochat would have helped me recently.

I had a recent experience in ATL. I was in town for a few days, so I decided to check out the local SA talent. It was a pain in the ass, with lots of energy / texts input for less than desirable output. I lined up two dates. One was with a girl that was a 7.5 or 8 in the pics. She sent quite a few and she was bangable, without a doubt. Set up the meet at a bar, even though she was willing ot meet at my place (red flag. I want sb, not escort). Still I'm an experience seeker, so I wondered where the road would take me. As soon as I walked into the bar and saw her, her 7. 5 dropped to a 3. 5. Her neck almost looked like it disappeared (high shoulders, strange posture) and her face was really bad. Even as I sat there drinking my beer, I wasn't too happy with her body either, skinny (I love em thin) but not alluring. And the icing on the cake was that her conversation left much to be desired, like she had a mental deficiency or something. She even told me that her ex BF said that she wasn't smart enough to become a flight attendant. LOL I left and called it a night and she was not happy. On top of all that, she wanted 4 bills and told me that she usually get 5, but was willing to work with me. Which one of you bastards is paying this girl 5 bills? Hahahaha. I should have video chatted, but up until this point, it hasn't been a necessity.

Girl #2 was a success, but still had some American stuff going on. Putting that one in a separate thread.

[The Cane]

Have any of you guys suspected that somebody may be running a "mill" on Seeking. What I'm talking about is seeing profile after profile after profile of hot girls from the same small town (populations anywhere from 15,000 to 50,000 roughly). All relatively recent profiles too, and not saying all that much, sometimes virtually nothing. It just seems unlikely that so many pretty girls from one town of that size would have all of these profiles on Seeking at the same time, and initially put up around the same period of time as well. There's enough fraud that goes on that it makes me believe that somebody up to no good is behind all of those profiles, creating one after another hoping that some horny sucker will take the bait and bite. Anybody else noticed what I call the "mill phenomenon"?

[DramaFree11]

Great advice. I'm guessing some still flake out at the last minute, and video chat will trim down the list a bit (E. G. Photos not matching reality, or not speaking English well as they write). If even then, the list is long enough, I'll probably have to just make one more visit soon!!

Video Chat is a must in the states, for verification and security purposes. I do not Video Chat in MTY, due to my poor Latin. Also, the girls get embarrassed because of their poor English skills. I would lose a lot of opportunities if I required this in MTY.

However I did require Video Chat sessions in CDMX, but most of the girls in CDMX are way more educated then the MTY girls. I hope this helps.

[Pessimist]

Sorry to be a bad news bear, but IMO, SA in America sux.

You need lot of time and patience to score good SBs.

In 10 day trip, I would suggest, you shud stick to WGs. (Most of SA girls in LA / SF wud be WGs anyway).

Or try Mexico or Canada, you will have better chance of finding real SBs with great vibe.

Seeking US in relation to other avenues in the US?

I wouldn't call that sux.

It's not as if US is swimming in sex clubs and as if everything was legal.

Seeking in the US works best if you live in a reasonably large sized city, preferably not on the coasts, and take your time to build a rolodex over time patiently.

It also can work when you are on the road but is a hit and miss. The fact that you are in a city for only a few days means you will have less chances to talk to enough girls and convert them to face to face meets and eventually sex. Of course if you are willing to pay up, chances of conversion are higher but even then largely dependent on luck and timing.

If you live in Europe, it would make no sense to be visiting the US for sex of any kind.

I think Seeking in Europe works, I have used it several times. But it is also true that legalized sex options are available in many European cities. I think Seeking has fewer girls per say, million population in European cities than in the US. Seeking is after all a US site. But my impressions from past European travels is that they had fewer scammers as a percentage. That said I haven't used Seeking in Europe in a couple of years now.

If I was a permanent European resident, would I use seeking for local girls? Not sure. If I lived in a large German city with good FKks I would not bother with Seeking. If I was in Hungary or Sofia or some other place for a couple of months however, Seeking could be well worth it.

[Dykenberx]

Guys, well said. What we get back in return, from the girls on SA, you can not put a price tag on. Banging hot young girls, in my fifties is a dream come true. I read these guys complaining about our lives, I just shake my head, they really do not know what they are missing. I use to argue with them, but no more just a big waste of time.

SA is an amazing experience especially in foreign countries.

I absolutely agree DramaFree!! I'm in my 40's and I hope to be doing trips like this for the next 20 years.

[SfoCowboy]

Guys, seeking Bcn has about a dozen or so girls who are operated by someone and keep talking between them or may be it's the same person who texts / operates these accounts. My standard test is to do a video call and talk to the girl before meeting and that saved me. I was talking to a few girls and all of them were talking on per hour basis and no one actually was willing to do a video call which was a red flag for me. I avoided meeting one girl last time because of this red flag. This was a couple of months ago.

Now, there is one such girl who said that I never came to Bcn and I'm just wasting their time etc. I just didn't want to tell her that I suspect that she was a working girl / handler was talking. She warned me that I pissed off many girls because I texted them but never met them. This sounded like a cartel and I said that I can choose whom to meet and whom not to based on my comfort. I told that I never kept anyone waiting after confirming a date but I just didn't progress beyond a few texts in the conversation. This is typical of working girls who don't waste their time with people like us. So I just avoided. This girl went super aggressive and told me that she had me covered by her friends and I should leave Bcn. I was like wtf. This is like a cartel. I said ok and blocked that girl and a few others on all apps. If you're okay to meet working girls on seeking then it is fine but the idea of being on sa is to meet normal girls. Be cautious about who you are meeting and do a video call for confirmation. Let me know your thoughts guys.

Cheers!

[Elvis 2008]

I have a shortlist of about 10 girls for my upcoming trip and 5-10 more who agreed to meet during chats. What the fuck do I do now? I only have a 10 day trip.

I started two months before I went to Colombia on SA and racked up 175 numbers. Thing is the flake rate was pretty high, and when the women were called or texted, they did not respond. Even with that many numbers, I had some down time in Bogota. I typically could get two dates a day in Bogota and three in Medellin, and I am picky. That compares to one a day in Mexico and like one a month in the USA. That is why I think SA is almost worthless in the USA.

[Intelligencium]

Have you done your verification / video chats yet? If anything, after chatting with them live, you may get better vibes from some and be able to whittle down your list. Pick your top 3/4, have a couple of backups (in case of flakes / last minute changes / etc) - IE be excited to meet, but not sure of availability "due to work". Then work the list as Steve suggests.

Great advice. I'm guessing some still flake out at the last minute, and video chat will trim down the list a bit (E. G. Photos not matching reality, or not speaking English well as they write). If even then, the list is long enough, I'll probably have to just make one more visit soon!!

[Foolish]

I have a shortlist of about 10 girls for my upcoming trip and 5-10 more who agreed to meet during chats.

Have you done your verification / video chats yet? If anything, after chatting with them live, you may get better vibes from some and be able to whittle down your list. Pick your top 3/4, have a couple of backups (in case of flakes / last minute changes / etc) - IE be excited to meet, but not sure of availability "due to work". Then work the list as Steve suggests.

[RumblePirate]

Hey, I'll be traveling to Madrid this week and been talking to few gills before hand on seeking arragments.

My impression is that its more a escort site than a dating site.

I have a date no sex for 200 $.

And if I want more I need to pay.

Is it me or more than 90% are just profesional escort?

I've been trying for 2 days only and I am an ok looking guy.

Also please let me know if I am paying to much.

Although its always relative.

You are not just paying them extra already, you are paying them for a non-intimate encounter. It's just beats logic, I mean you don't want an arm candy to accompany you on business meetings or anything like that. So why are you even paying them at all.

With your budget, you can look for better professional services. Other wise what you are doing, you will never get, literally, get the bang for your bucks.

[CitizenX1]

I concur with Steve. No payment for a plutonic date. Just say no.

In addition to Vive, I also like Pigmillion. Have had some good nights taking women back. There are some fast houses also.

SA is a grind. You need to grind it out. If not, just hit the pros.

Thanks. Felt wrong when I talk to her.

Got another date with no money involved.

I imagine it will come up as we meet but will see how it goes.

The girl seems semi pro.

And said let's meet and we'll feel the vibe if we want more.

[DramaFree11]

I concur with Steve. No payment for a plutonic date. Just say no.

In addition to Vive, I also like Pigmillion. Have had some good nights taking women back. There are some fast houses also.

SA is a grind. You need to grind it out. If not, just hit the pros.

Hell no! No sex, no money. I think there is a very small percentage of guys that just pay for companionship, and of those guys many may have issues why they do not want to have sex.

[FastMdSter]

Hey, I'll be traveling to Madrid this week and been talking to few gills before hand on seeking arragments.

My impression is that its more a escort site than a dating site.

I have a date no sex for 200 $.

And if I want more I need to pay.

Is it me or more than 90% are just profesional escort?

I've been trying for 2 days only and I am an ok looking guy.

Also please let me know if I am paying to much.

Although its always relative.

I concur with Steve. No payment for a plutonic date. Just say no.

In addition to Vive, I also like Pigmillion. Have had some good nights taking women back. There are some fast houses also.

SA is a grind. You need to grind it out. If not, just hit the pros.