Medellin Reports

[Carnal2]

I am going to Medellin for 5 days and was very interested in recent intel on this location. It appears to be one of the top places for quality. I have been to many FKK's in Europe, is this similar? Not much information online and no website.

Any intel on prices and extras?

Cost to taxi from Poblado?

Do they serve food and drinks?

Options for 2 girls??

Thanks in advance.

[Surfer500]

There were still several gringos in MDE during COVID, whether those who lived there full time or who got "stuck" there. And the, according to a few chicas I know well, were the gringo clients who felt bad for the chicas and sent them a little money for food. I admit I sent 100 mil to one chica that I used to see regularly. So even during COVID, many still relied on gringos. I will say again, I have a very clear conscience. I see no exploitation as a previous poster suggested.

It's not exploitation, but compassion.

Nothing wrong helping out regulars, especially during the eight months the Country was shut down during the Pandemic.

[Nounce]

...That said, what you are talking about is an investible woman, one you give $1000...

I don't know about the whole context of the situation the OP is in. This is what I would do in my own situation.

If it is started with P4 P, I would tell the girl to come frequently enough so she can make USD $ 1000/ month. This way she can make more money and not less. If the girl is worthwhile, she can use the money wisely. I would even tell her to put other customers ahead of me schedule-wise because I want her to diversify and have more job opportunities.

If it is not P4 P, I would just give her money for free and not have sexual relationship with her for free.

There are more scenarios that I can come up with but the above are the basic ideas.

[Nounce]

...I will not use the facebook app on my phone, and just get girls what's app if I want to contact them later. Thanks again.

However you can have a burner that you use only for mongering. You can have the app on this phone as long as you treat the phone as a sandbox. You can use this phone connected to any WiFi, for example: Starbucks, I am confident that none of the other customers see info related to your activity and you won't see theirs. If you agree, and think it logically, you can use it almost everywhere. hehe.

[Vern2020]

This is the best answer. It will be better if this browser is only used for facebook only. While we are on this topic. ISG uses Google service so Google probably knows the activities of those visitors who use google too. haha.

Thanks guys, that is what my gut was telling me. I will not use the facebook app on my phone, and just get girls what's app if I want to contact them later. Thanks again.

[ColombiaLover]

There were still several gringos in MDE during COVID, whether those who lived there full time or who got "stuck" there. And the, according to a few chicas I know well, were the gringo clients who felt bad for the chicas and sent them a little money for food. I admit I sent 100 mil to one chica that I used to see regularly. So even during COVID, many still relied on gringos. I will say again, I have a very clear conscience. I see no exploitation as a previous poster suggested.

The same thing they did during covid without you. As far as I know they all made it through and nobody perished due to not having gringos around to exploit them.

[Que Rico]

QR, I do not think it is the passport bros. Those are guys who work in the USA, have money, and visit abroad. The guys fighting you on this IMO are the guys living on a fixed income and are always threatened when others come in and pay without consideration for their budgets.

As far as giving women a $1000 and changing their lives, the guys from Freakonomics actually took on something similar to it. Back in the early days of the USA, the state of Georgia had this deal where one in five of its residents received via lottery a chance at some serious land / money. When the matter was studied, what was found was a one time infusion of cash did very little to change the fate of said people.

That said, what you are talking about is an investible woman, one you give $1000, and she spends on garnering a skill and uses it to make way more than $1000 and is actually appreciative of you for doing so. That is really rare because such a woman probably would have made it on her own without you. Out of the hundreds of women I have met mongering over the last decade, there were only four I considered investible or my preferred term is wife / GF material. Most women will waste the $1000 on something stupid and then hit you up shortly thereafter for more money.

That is the problem with prostitution and the quick buck. The quick buck goes out as fast as it goes in.

I agree with you and once again, I never suggested giving them $1000. It was a number that came to my head. I said that it could change their lives and everybody got butt hurt. I they thought I was implying I throw money around like some kind of Simp. Like I said earlier, I did help somebody I make over six figures and I slowly gave her money because I'm fully aware they are going to spend it instantly. Helping a girl get braces for her crooked teeth buying a iPad for their children. These little things change their life. It's much cheaper than having a girlfriend or a wife in the United States. I think everybody agrees that I was just suggesting that some people do exploit them and try to give them the boyfriend experience to save money. One thing I know, for sure is you could not expect a positive outcome just accept whatever the outcome is and have no expectations and you won't be disappointed. I believe any girl that's doing this to multiple people or is still in the. P4 p game really doesn't deserve anyone's money. Next time I will "quote the author of the post. So, as not to offend the guys with fixed incomes that are living there. Thanks for the positive response.

[Knowledge]

The same capability that facebook uses to mine your contacts who have never had facebook accounts allow it to mine your browsing history on browsers you never use to access facebook, cross reference your device's registry keys, and take advantage of bookmark syncing features some uses don't even know are active. At a minimum you must use a single purpose device for punter activity on facebook. Then you also have to be scrupulous about which friend requests, contacts, and even likes (you should not like anything from a punter account) to control (as distinct from prevent) facebook linking your punter account to other apps (including facebook), services, and contacts you maintain in real life. Tiktok, tinder, facebook and the other social apps spend billions to confuse users into thinking it's quick and easy to isolate their accounts. You have been warned, I won't insist.

This is the best answer. It will be better if this browser is only used for facebook only. While we are on this topic. ISG uses Google service so Google probably knows the activities of those visitors who use google too. haha.

[Elvis 2008]

Everybody's butt hurt especially the passport bros they think I'm handing out hundred dollar bills and they're insulted because they are cheapskates. That's why they take it personal I'm saying $1000 will change their life I would never give them $1000. How about 50 or $75 instead of using there Naked photos as a trophy cheapskates .

QR, I do not think it is the passport bros. Those are guys who work in the USA, have money, and visit abroad. The guys fighting you on this IMO are the guys living on a fixed income and are always threatened when others come in and pay without consideration for their budgets.

As far as giving women a $1000 and changing their lives, the guys from Freakonomics actually took on something similar to it. Back in the early days of the USA, the state of Georgia had this deal where one in five of its residents received via lottery a chance at some serious land / money. When the matter was studied, what was found was a one time infusion of cash did very little to change the fate of said people.

That said, what you are talking about is an investible woman, one you give $1000, and she spends on garnering a skill and uses it to make way more than $1000 and is actually appreciative of you for doing so. That is really rare because such a woman probably would have made it on her own without you. Out of the hundreds of women I have met mongering over the last decade, there were only four I considered investible or my preferred term is wife / GF material. Most women will waste the $1000 on something stupid and then hit you up shortly thereafter for more money.

That is the problem with prostitution and the quick buck. The quick buck goes out as fast as it goes in.

[Nounce]

Use 2 different browsers and not the app.

This is the best answer. It will be better if this browser is only used for facebook only. While we are on this topic. ISG uses Google service so Google probably knows the activities of those visitors who use google too. haha.

[SteelDh]

I definitely would not start at $150 or $100 and never negotiate in dollars. You have to remember a lot of "seeking" girls are full time prepagos in disguise. Why would you pay more just because her profile is on seeking? You will find the same girls on FB, tinder, lleras and even centro (rarely). So it makes no sense to wine and dine a girl who's a full time pro.

Of course it depends on how much time you are expecting them to spend etc. For newbies I would avoid seeking and stick to casa, clubs, tinder etc but remember to always give your price and not ask them theirs. Negotiate in pesos and start low 200 mil plus taxi is usual starting rate for outcall.

Disclaimer: this is a crosspost from the "Seeking Arrangement" forum, although I have made some editions.

Folks,

I'm heading to Medellin next week. I've been there before but had never used SA (seeking arrangement) there.

I am already in contact with a bunch of really hot chicks, but I have not talked money with anyone yet, I just have been filtering out pros because I'm looking for the civilian type.

My last sugar baby relationships date from before the pandemic, so I don't have a good reference in price. I think I read earlier here folks saying 500 K COP, which sounds super reasonable (to me, given the quality of the woman) but I want to get your opinion hopefully based on your current experience. What is a fair price these days for a really young and tight 20 y / o hottie?

I read elsewhere folks talking about 250-400 EUR for Wester Europe and I was just yesterday quoted $500 by a pretty hot 25 y / o in TX.

So for Medellin, would $100 be a good amount not to offend the girl right out the bat? $150?

Thanks in advance.

[Mr Enternational]

I have a clear conscience because what would many of these girls do without us?

The same thing they did during covid without you. As far as I know they all made it through and nobody perished due to not having gringos around to exploit them.

[Knowledge]

That is exactly right. You can put the punter phone behind a VPN session to keep facebook's algorithms away from other devices on your Internet connection.

And probably best not use the same wi-fi / network that you use to access your real account.

[Mono Sin Luz]

I think this mostly Medellin https://www.instagram.com/scopequeens/.

Also see https://www.facebook.com/groups/mdehallofshame.

The Facebook link is not working for me.

[ColombiaLover]

I agree that beating them down is wrong (monetarily or physically). But that said, I don't see mongering as exploitation. We pay these girls much more than they could make with a regular job (that they are qualified to do, which isn't much). Some of the girls really need the money to pay rent, buy food, take care of the baby, etc. Other girls use it for surgeries and treatments and fake designer clothes and purses and shoes and drugs. That's their choice, although I prefer girls who need the money to take care of a family or get educated. Paying them way above what they are worth financially in Colombia, to me, is not exploitation. If anything, gringos are often "exploited" by the girls and others (taxis, etc.). I have a clear conscience because what would many of these girls do without us? The Colombian government is not going to take care of them and either is their deadbeat boyfriend of baby daddy. That said, I believe in paying a fair price. I'm not trying to talk them down below the low end of "market" but am also certainly not dumb enough to overpay (for all of the stupid reasons gringos overpay).

Yes I agree with you. I'm not going to be giving out $1,000 to them but it amazes me how cheap some mongers are. Going on and on about saving $9 on a cab ride and a few bucks on a phone plan. I was lucky enough to be born in the first world like most of these guys who like to nickel and dime girls born into poverty. Now I'm not throwing around dollars like an idiot making it rain and I do negotiate prices down but $25 is piss to me. Can't even buy a burger in a nice restaurant with that where I live. I take no joy in beating them down as far as possible and am convinced that for the type of girls I'm doing, SA and FB, that I get much better and longer dates with them. As much sex as I can muster and most of it BB without asking. They can't wait to come see me again. I take no joy in exploiting people from poor countries. No woman likes a cheap man. OK all the cheapskate trolls can attack now.