Seeking Arrangements

[Midwestern]

At pessimist. I have seen this expression AO fuck, but I never 100% know what it meant. Adults only? Anal only?

Prices in London were pretty high. It being an expensive city, even just OK looking girls gave high quotes. I ended up not taking any meets.

In Germany and Spain, I was able to obtain meets for 200 Euros or a bit less. In itself that is not too cheap, as local fuck houses and bordellos are able to provide sessions at that price or even less. But the sugar babe sessions were longer, in my own hotel room, and included unlimited DFK, ball licking and other such things and I was happy with the quality. Another thing I enjoy in own hotel room is a nice fresh shower together. A few girls let me do AO fuck in shower which is also a huge positive.

Prices may be a bit less now given the tough economic conditions. I can easily imagine that many girls are desperate for money. If you didnot see a big dent in personal fortune due to stock markets dip, your money will go much farther these days than even 3 months ago.

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[Pessimist]

How much are the girls in Berlin and the rest of Germany usually asking for a date on seeking arrangement? Obviously now is not a good time to date for health reasons but how much Were the girls asking for before the Corona crisis?

In Berlin, Barcelona, and London it's already possible For locals to get a date Not using seeking arrangement for a few hours for 150-200 euros. And in Montral It cost pretty much the same 300 Canadian dollars Which Equals approximately US Dollars $214. Some girls on Seeking arrangement may actually be a little bit more expensive But some girls have lower prices too.

Prices in London were pretty high. It being an expensive city, even just OK looking girls gave high quotes. I ended up not taking any meets.

In Germany and Spain, I was able to obtain meets for 200 Euros or a bit less. In itself that is not too cheap, as local fuck houses and bordellos are able to provide sessions at that price or even less. But the sugar babe sessions were longer, in my own hotel room, and included unlimited DFK, ball licking and other such things and I was happy with the quality. Another thing I enjoy in own hotel room is a nice fresh shower together. A few girls let me do AO fuck in shower which is also a huge positive.

Prices may be a bit less now given the tough economic conditions. I can easily imagine that many girls are desperate for money. If you didnot see a big dent in personal fortune due to stock markets dip, your money will go much farther these days than even 3 months ago.

[DramaFree11]

I have been using that site for about 3 years now mostly in philly erea tons of college girls on there and they are legit I went ti their dorms LOL the average price I'm getting is 300 but I do get 200 ones for a really cute 19 to 23 yr old college cutie when I hit 24 to 39 year olds they push for 400 up they been in the game and know what's up I have gotten free ones on there from lonely girls who want a semi decent boyfriend also. NYC erea start at 400 up for a girl that's a 7 up I have gotten models at that price had one from England was here for photo shoots Saw all the work and took her to the photo shoot also.

I travel the world to monger but in the USA SA is hands down the best.

I am thinking about getting back on in Austin and San Antonio. I will only pay $300, moving forward, but I will wait for restaurants to open up. I am not worried about the Virus. I prefer the first meeting to be in public for obvious reasons.

I am having a lot of success in MYY, meeting some great girls.

[Member #4665]

How much are the girls in Berlin and the rest of Germany usually asking for a date on seeking arrangement? Obviously now is not a good time to date for health reasons but how much Were the girls asking for before the Corona crisis?

In Berlin, Barcelona, and London it's already possible For locals to get a date Not using seeking arrangement for a few hours for 150-200 euros. And in Montral It cost pretty much the same 300 Canadian dollars Which Equals approximately US Dollars $214. Some girls on Seeking arrangement may actually be a little bit more expensive But some girls have lower prices too .

[Romeo Joe]

I have been using that site for about 3 years now mostly in philly erea tons of college girls on there and they are legit I went ti their dorms LOL the average price I'm getting is 300 but I do get 200 ones for a really cute 19 to 23 yr old college cutie when I hit 24 to 39 year olds they push for 400 up they been in the game and know what's up I have gotten free ones on there from lonely girls who want a semi decent boyfriend also. NYC erea start at 400 up for a girl that's a 7 up I have gotten models at that price had one from England was here for photo shoots Saw all the work and took her to the photo shoot also.

I travel the world to monger but in the USA SA is hands down the best.

[Pessimist]

What a difference 6 weeks make?

The number of really pretty girls that are saying "lost my job due to quarantine, will do anything for some financial help" has gone up exponentially, almost as fast as the virus infections did. LOL.

[Midwestern]

I've been following this discussion and I thank you all for sharing valuable info. I'm fairly new to it all, and I've had a couple of casual arrangements. I'm just curious, from what you've observed, what are the chances of finding a truly exclusive sugar arrangement? Or is that type of thing all in the past now?

I met a few that were treating dates as possible one-offs and so I treated those dates the same way. But for most of the gals, they wanted only one SD. Of course, if you only see them a couple of times a month, then they'll look for another SD, just like any normal GF would look for a new BF if she feels unwanted.

[Pessimist]

I've been following this discussion and I thank you all for sharing valuable info. I'm fairly new to it all, and I've had a couple of casual arrangements. I'm just curious, from what you've observed, what are the chances of finding a truly exclusive sugar arrangement? Or is that type of thing all in the past now?

I have never asked for nor sought exclusivity. But in my view, many girls did not have more than one arrangement at a given time anyway. Many have their normal life and were supplementing their normal income with a little extra from being a sugar babe. If you want a girl to be exclusive to you, you should definitely ask. If the girl is willing to have sex with you, she will seriously consider your request. She may use your request to extract a bit more money from you but I don't think she would dump you just because you asked for exclusivity. In fact many girls even say in their profiles that they want monogamous arrangements.

[PrickPriority]

I've been following this discussion and I thank you all for sharing valuable info. I'm fairly new to it all, and I've had a couple of casual arrangements. I'm just curious, from what you've observed, what are the chances of finding a truly exclusive sugar arrangement? Or is that type of thing all in the past now?

[Midwestern]

I always give cash, don't use any money transfer apps. I don't know how many tracked me down with my car plates but if they did, none of them followed me later on nor gave me any drama, didn't notice any peeping Toms into my LinkedIn. Perhaps I have just been lucky or careful or both. But this is over several dozens of meets over the years, so it is not just a coincidence. In general, almost all of my arrangements have been pleasant experiences. Yes, a few were mildly annoying, some stood me up, some played hard to get etc but that is to be expected. Some told me they do weed, and 420 friendly is fairly commonly listed in their bios but I don't think I have been with too obviously drugged up zombies. On the whole, my experiences have been quite positive and I'm not a shill for the site or anything. If you are not comfortable, or too concerned about having your identity blown, yes stick to FKKs or some other sex tourist spots. Only you would know how much risk is acceptable to you.

I agree. I had great times with some SBs, and many of them were way hot and outside of my league normally. But I eventually quit the site because it was taking up a lot of my time, as it was almost like a full time job searching for SBs. I eventually decided that for me a quick romp in an AMP was the best way to go while in the states. But that said, I haven't been to the states in a couple of years, so I no longer what the best options are for the states anymore.

[Pessimist]

I always give cash, don't use any money transfer apps. I don't know how many tracked me down with my car plates but if they did, none of them followed me later on nor gave me any drama, didn't notice any peeping Toms into my LinkedIn. Perhaps I have just been lucky or careful or both. But this is over several dozens of meets over the years, so it is not just a coincidence. In general, almost all of my arrangements have been pleasant experiences. Yes, a few were mildly annoying, some stood me up, some played hard to get etc but that is to be expected. Some told me they do weed, and 420 friendly is fairly commonly listed in their bios but I don't think I have been with too obviously drugged up zombies. On the whole, my experiences have been quite positive and I'm not a shill for the site or anything. If you are not comfortable, or too concerned about having your identity blown, yes stick to FKKs or some other sex tourist spots. Only you would know how much risk is acceptable to you.

[Midwestern]

As I outlined in my previous post, yes, I totally agree with you that it is easy for the gal to know your real identity. It is almost impossible to hide it if you are going to spend quality time (e. G. , dinners, drinks, site-seeing, shows, etc.) with any SB. If you are just meeting for naughty fun only, then maybe it's possible. To me, it was just unbelievable how many of them viewed my LinkedIn profile, which meant that eventually they figured out my real name. As I sit here typing, I am counting the number of SBs that I know 100% for sure eventually figured out my real identity and it's 9 out of 23. And 2 of them gave me big drama later unfortunately. Maybe the only ones that didn't know my real identity were the real losers, like the uneducated drug addicts. As for the SBs, almost all of them didn't care if I knew who they really were. Most of them just told me their real name, which I was able to confirm later using an internet search. I think for them, because they are not pros, they need to feel some emotional connection with whoever they are boffing, which is why they didn't mind letting me know their real identity.

There is a lot of ways she can find your name if you are not careful. Put the name, geographical location, and approx age, and you are easily unmasked. Even more so if you own property. A few dollars on any of the search agencies will uncover lots about you. I found out a sb's real name by a money transfer app. With that fact and approx. Location, I actually found out her address without her knowing.

Anyone can request a DMV record by a license plate. This is how you find hit and run drivers. The DMV will give out the information and will notify you who requested the info, but that person could just be her boyfriend. If you want to remain anon, you have to be very prepared, and it will cost you. Hiding behind a Corp. Is effective.

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[Akibono]

These are all real risks. The social accounts one is deadly if you ever use your real phone with them (never do of course). I only discovered this recently. Those apps look through your contacts and suggest friends based on that. I was surprised to learn 5+ girls real names when I installed Facebook on my burner phone recently. Plus two via instagram and one via Snapchat.

Obviously I have no interest and don't even tell them since they will need to disown you at that point.

I do have my first SB inviting me to her place which is nice. I don't see how they risk it but I guess you take a lot of life risks at 23. We're all lucky to be alive I'd wager.

Oh and here is an easy mistake to make! I was curious to check out one girl who clearly was a white color professional not my usual hairdresser. So I looked at her linked in. Damn. Only realized after I did it I probably just outed myself, cuz shell see I looked at her profile. Damn. Got to be more careful.

There is a lot of ways she can find your name if you are not careful. Put the name, geographical location, and approx age, and you are easily unmasked. Even more so if you own property. A few dollars on any of the search agencies will uncover lots about you. I found out a sb's real name by a money transfer app. With that fact and approx. Location, I actually found out her address without her knowing.

Anyone can request a DMV record by a license plate. This is how you find hit and run drivers. The DMV will give out the information and will notify you who requested the info, but that person could just be her boyfriend. If you want to remain anon, you have to be very prepared, and it will cost you. Hiding behind a Corp. Is effective.

[Steve 9696]

Yes, several SBs eventually discovered my true identity. Here's how. (1) Sometimes, when I was drunk, I would use my real name accidentally, especially when I was telling a story that happened to me. I think most people don't realize how often they refer to themselves in the third person. (2) One time, on the TV of the hotel, it had my name on it, something like, "Welcome Midwestern. We hope you enjoy your stay. " (3) The bartender or waitress, when returning my credit card, would say, "Thank you Mr. Midwestern. Hope you have a nice rest of the evening. Please come again. " Jeezus, this happened a lot.

(4) You may run into someone that knows you. That happened once. (5) One time, when I opened a new social app on my phone, it was flooded with possible contacts. Apparently, one of my SBs also got a message saying that "Your contact Midwestern has joined blah blah blah. Would you like to connect to him?" I have no idea how that happened, but I guess apps can speak to each other. I was using a different app to communicate with her. (6) Eventually, you reveal too much about yourself, so a clever gal can start putting pieces together and do an internet search. I know this is true because several of my SBs viewed my LinkedIn profile. I asked one of them about it, and she said that it was easy to figure out who I was.

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These are all real risks. The social accounts one is deadly if you ever use your real phone with them (never do of course). I only discovered this recently. Those apps look through your contacts and suggest friends based on that. I was surprised to learn 5+ girls real names when I installed Facebook on my burner phone recently. Plus two via instagram and one via Snapchat.

Obviously I have no interest and don't even tell them since they will need to disown you at that point.

I do have my first SB inviting me to her place which is nice. I don't see how they risk it but I guess you take a lot of life risks at 23. We're all lucky to be alive I'd wager.

Oh and here is an easy mistake to make! I was curious to check out one girl who clearly was a white color professional not my usual hairdresser. So I looked at her linked in. Damn. Only realized after I did it I probably just outed myself, cuz she’ll see I looked at her profile. Damn. Got to be more careful.

[Pessimist]

Yes, several SBs eventually discovered my true identity. Here's how. (1) Sometimes, when I was drunk, I would use my real name accidentally, especially when I was telling a story that happened to me. I think most people don't realize how often they refer to themselves in the third person. (2) One time, on the TV of the hotel, it had my name on it, something like, "Welcome Midwestern. We hope you enjoy your stay. " (3) The bartender or waitress, when returning my credit card, would say, "Thank you Mr. Midwestern. Hope you have a nice rest of the evening. Please come again. " Jeezus, this happened a lot.

(4) You may run into someone that knows you. That happened once. (5) One time, when I opened a new social app on my phone, it was flooded with possible contacts. Apparently, one of my SBs also got a message saying that "Your contact Midwestern has joined blah blah blah. Would you like to connect to him?" I have no idea how that happened, but I guess apps can speak to each other. I was using a different app to communicate with her. (6) Eventually, you reveal too much about yourself, so a clever gal can start putting pieces together and do an internet search. I know this is true because several of my SBs viewed my LinkedIn profile. I asked one of them about it, and she said that it was easy to figure out who I was..

That's unfortunate. I have been quite careful to hide my identity so far. Not sure if any one figured me out but if they did, they have not told me yet. Recently, I met this girl for a pre arrangement get to know lunch. As I signed the check and was leaving, she claimed she wanted to sit there for a few more minutes and look at her messages and I should leave. I was not happy because I had signed the credit card bill and had my name on it and she could easily figure me out. I walked up to the waitress a few tables from me and asked her to take away my signed check right away and as soon as I got into my car, I blocked that girl on both my phone and SA. Bye bye, don't need any such risks.

Some girls have voluntarily disclosed their real identities. I met a few sugar babes in their own homes and fucked on their own beds. But I made it clear they can expect no such reciprocity from me.