Berlin

[Merkur]

All the other bordellos offer this. As you seem to know. It is an extra. You have to discuss it up front. GFE and natural beauty completely subjective but all the better private bordellos have great girls. Prestige, Royal, Liberty, vK, MonRouge. It is not difficult.

Yep for sure, I've been to at least 3 of those places you mention there. Royal, VK and the third not sure which but it has a bar area where you sit at first. I found out the third was not really something for me. I was expecting a line-up and was a bit surprised to have to hang around the bar area. Royal I've been to three times, every time the same girl as I was delighted with the first encounter, and meeting someone that shared my interest. Anyways, back to the post. I think the words "natural beauty" was maybe not a good description, I meant as the opposite of the typical boring blonde bimbo look (sorry, not meant as stigma to anyone, just in lack of better words) You are right, this is very subjective so I understand its tricky to respond to. Describing what your looking for in words can be hard, but you know sometimes in parade you get that instant "wow" factor, like you feel right away its a perfect match. Myself I like what I'm calling "young french actress" look (I know, subjective again!) or the "innocent" look. Some examples of what I mean is Amelie in KD (no longer on the website but if you saw her before.) or Penny. Of all the places KD in Berlin also has the highest illusionfactor I think. I always felt Tiffany was the Ryanair version of a bordello. Never even offered a shower there. (always had to ask). Another thing with most of the bordellos mention is, very few face pics on the website, which result in quite an anonymous feel. I know, show up and go for a parade, sure its fun, but I'm often more of a termin guy, look on the website in quiet (checking the services if available) and then making a booking.

I do think its worth asking why FO is extra in Berlin and not in the Cologne / Dusseldorf area where its included in basically *every* encounter. Its a whole different mentality. But seriously this extra mentality sometimes goes too far, when you have to pay extra for every little thing like spanish, kissing, dirty talk or cum on tits. Did someone say Ryanair again?

[Rocketboy0]

So here is my question: Do you guys know of any places in Berlin which has the same natural beauties, GFE factor as KD but which does also have FO on the menu?

All the other bordellos offer this. As you seem to know. It is an extra. You have to discuss it up front. GFE and natural beauty completely subjective but all the better private bordellos have great girls. Prestige, Royal, Liberty, vK, MonRouge. It is not difficult.

[Big Ass Eater]

Hi,

I've been to KD once previously but wasn't able to meet Lisa, who seems to be the tantra expert there. Apparently one has to make an appointment to meet her.

I'd like to ask if anyone here has been with her? If yes, was it worth the money and the time? I find her incredibly hot and women of her age turn me on.

http://kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/lisa-e.htm

[Merkur]

I have a special request here I thought some might help me out with. I've been tons of times to Berlin the last 7-8 years so I know the scene pretty well.

My favorite is Kamilla Dee, and the reason for that is that you find so many natural beauties, the GFE factor is high, pleasant ambiance and you feel very welcome there.

Of course not every encounter is the most amazing ever, but its been consistently good. Its hard to go wrong.

I tried many of the other places as well like Tiffany (I don't really go there any longer after Pia doesn't work there anymore, she was good fun and took a load on her face with a smile ), Vankampen (some real hot babes can be found, I have some good memories there too, but few of the girls working there show their faces on the website, and the special ambiance I find in KD lacks) and Royal.

KD really covers all my needs except one important exception- sucking without is not officially on the menu, and though I'm sure it still happens from time to time, its requires more work and no gurantees. So here is my question: Do you guys know of any places in Berlin which has the same natural beauties, GFE factor as KD but which does also have FO on the menu? To those of you that travels to the Cologne district: what I'm looking for is a Berlins version of Cat Exclusive. If BBBJ, CIM and splashing the girls face with facial cumshot was actually available it would have been the only place I need to go. Well, maybe the solution is just visiting Artemis, but the ambience will of course be completely different.

My favorite city in Germany is Berlin for sure, but it lacks one thing. In the NRW (Nordrhein Westfalen) region of Germany BBBJ is in 99% of the cases standard service, like for instance Termingirls, Cat-Exclusive and most other places, in fact even facial is included in the price from 45 minutes in Cat Excklusive. (cum in mouth is extra though) as long as its on the girls menu. Its not that I can't pay for extras (I do) but its a whole lot easier when you don't need to agree on every little thing that is extra, just get going with the blowjob without any asking. At least in Artemis there isn't extra for sucking without, so maybe essentially that is where I need to go, but never been to an FKK and well. Guess I'm a bit hesitant because of that. Would be great to go together with a forum member the first time on my next trip to Berlin. .

[Bobo.fr]

...Hope you enjoy Felicia.

Unfortunately, I'm not in Berlin (these last years, I didn't have many opportunities to go to Berlin as in the past).

Furthermore, some years ago, Felicia cancelled two meetings with me and finally, as I asked Kira, she confirmed to Kira that the "chemistry" didn't work between us (see http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1237621. ).

[Rocketboy0]

Salut RB, GTR seems really interesting and, IMHO, deserves a specific thread. By the way, pretty Felicia is back in KD.

Salut. Thanks for the hard work, and I will always be grateful for your advice in Paris. Hope you enjoy Felicia.

[Bobo.fr]

....
RB went to Ginas Tango Rose in Steglitz and had a 45 min session with very attractive Ella, quite pleasant if not earth-moving, and a reasonable Eur 100. The place has been redecorated and has a nice atmosphere. Worth checking out http://www.ginas-tango-rosa.de/nutte...ex_modelle.htm

Salut RB,

GTR seems really interesting and, IMHO, deserves a specific thread:

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...Rosa-%28GTR%29

By the way, pretty Felicia is back in KD.

[Rocketboy0]

Well at least they have a website

Sorry boyze. Sent wrong link. Still really no word, no proper website, but seems like opening pushed back to next year. http://fkk24.org/Potsdam/FKK-Grand-P...7-Potsdam.html. So based upon the article of last June (see this thread) the thing is allegedly being built near the glider airport Saarmunder Flugplatz. Doing some digging, it is at least a 20 minute drive south of Potsdam, and public transport will effectively not be an option. It will be a project, especially in bad weather:

https://encrypted.google.com/maps/di...76!2d52.308738

They could build something big, with nice outdoor pool and garden etc. But if rumoured Artemis luxury club opens across the autobahn, it will be a tough sell IMHO. It may feel also isolated for girls working there without a car, as public transport will be a hassle. But who knows, if the price is right, the atmosphere super geil. Anyway all just talk at the moment.

[Rocketboy0]

Well at least they have a website, and a video, 2 actually, long on pointless drama, short (to overstate it) on any useful details. Still no word on opening, prices, hours, location yada yada.

But to just savour the possibilities: http://grand-palais.com/.

[Rocketboy0]

these are the things probably not found in berlin: hiring a girl friend for days or weeks in thailand, multi-floor multi-venue entertainment complexes in bangkok, all inclusive resorts in the caribbean, exclusive and expensive nightclubs in shanghai, hostess clubs in tokyo, fantasy gfe encounters in montreal, the amsterdam style rdl.

correct. it is just boring berlin, poor but sexy.

of course if you do want to throw around some serious euros, a weekend could be done, and there are 1-2 high end bars and bordellos.

on hotels, there are some that kind of cater to sws like the penzion stockholm or others near blowstrasse. but since the scene here is so tolerated and rep001tered, not really a need, with easily several thousand girls in the game at quite reasonable prices.

on that theme..

rb went to ginas tango rose in steglitz and had a 45 min session with very attractive ella, quite pleasant if not earth-moving, and a reasonable eur 100. the place has been redecorated and has a nice atmosphere. worth checking out http://www.ginas-tango-rosa.de/nutte...ex_modelle.htm

[Viger99]

I know that some guys just asking to be spoon-fed without obviously doing any research is kind of bold, and often lame. But I travel quite a bit, and it helps for someone to give a quick one paragraph lay of the land, to guide your research.

There is a fundamental attribution error that I was looking to be spoon fed. I should have phrased my question closer to what Manny51 wrote above. My feeling about Berlin is probably not that different from how he feels about his upcoming trip to Dubai. Knowing what I know now, the following is how I would have answered my own question, things that most people around here might say "You did not know that? What a newb!

Money for sex is perfectly legal in Berlin and the rest of Germany, and there is no issue whatsoever with negotiating for sexual services either in private or in public, e. G. With a SW on the street. This is definitely something good to know especially if you are coming from the Nordic countries or the USA. There are many options available, from FKK clubs, sauna clubs, brothels, Kinos, fixed-price all you can do buffets, gangbangs, strip clubs, outcalls, hotel bars, S&M clubs, bare back clubs, and of course SWs. There is a very vibrant scene for hobbying and is very open. There is no one central RDL and they are clustered in certain areas all around the city.

My apology if I offended the sensibility of anyone here. My sense is that some if not most of the senior members here are locals. I mentioned hotels not that there are no other websites available on Berlin hotels, but was wondering whether there are certain hotels that are especially geared for hobbying. For example, the Nana Hotel across from Nana Plaza in Bangkok.

I am not 100% sure, but these are the things probably not found in Berlin: hiring a girl friend for days or weeks in Thailand, multi-floor multi-venue entertainment complexes in Bangkok, all inclusive resorts in the Caribbean, exclusive and expensive nightclubs in Shanghai, hostess clubs in Tokyo, fantasy GFE encounters in Montreal, the Amsterdam style RDL.

[Wanking]

Excellent report by Diplomat.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...345&viewfull=1#post1632345.

[Rocketboy0]

Hi!

I am planning to visit Berlin in the first week of January, right after new years, and I would like to know if it is business as usual in the sex scene or if it is slowed down due to extended Christmas vacations etc.

Hi-Yes it will be very slow til 2nd week in Jan. That will affect your language needs. You will need to phone ahead to see who is around and if they speak English etc Liberty a good bet but impossible to say this far in advance. You will still need to call on the day you are ready. Tiffany closed at the moment. Royal, Prestige and van Kampen are other options but doubt the lesser priced options will work for you. Would be better if you could come later so manage your expectations.

[Klarc]

Hi!

I am planning to visit Berlin in the first week of January, right after new years, and I would like to know if it is business as usual in the sex scene or if it is slowed down due to extended Christmas vacations etc. ?

I also wonder how feasible it is to meet English speaking women. Kamilla dee, Royal, (Tiffany), and Artemis have always had a good selection of English speaking women. It seems like Liberty should also be a viable option, but I haven't tried it. How about Freudenhaus hase (doesn't look very promising)? The more low end brothels usually do not seem to show language proficiency (or prices for that matter).

I would really like to be able session with several women consecutively, for instance a 20-30 minute session with woman#1 followed by a second and third session with woman#2 och #3, is such a thing possible in any of the brothels? Preferably in one of the more affordable for instance Liberty.

A note of caution: http://www.erotik-berlin.com "Bordelle Karlsruher" is a bit shady, and I consider it too shady for the price, albeit kinda cheap.

[Rocketboy0]

why are you discussing the possibility of a summary page? It shouldn't be necessary. Cmon man. We can be grown ups about this.

For whatever the reason, some people seem unable to manage either reading, using the search engine, or the cannot grasp the structure of the ISG. Part of the problem as Bobo has shown is the structure itself somehow does not allow the logical place for bordellos inside a Berlin thread, so it is an awkward external add on.

The information really is all there (and we all managed), and if a new visitor just spends an hour reading, they will have more than enough info to keep busy for a week. Nothing secretive about that. But just having some single overview place for the challenged, or those who only can spare 30 seconds, is fine with me. Is it necessary? Not really. Would it be helpful - probably. The thing is even if it exists, some people, being people, will still surely overlook it. And then the question is what level of detail is "needed", beyond the really good berlin intim summaries. It will need updating and managing, and that all needs sorting out. I certainly don't have the time or desire to do this, but if you would like to write up a summary for the new to Berlin, please by all means, do so.

As I said, even Admin made some noises about this in the past and really every city could do with one, especially as most are nowhere near as organized or transparent as Berlin. Here, there maybe another solution in the works but it involves someone else and out of respect for their privacy, they will now have to make the first move. I hope it will happen. Finis. On the adult side - RB will happily let you lead by example. Let us end all this carping and back and forth and scoring points, and make the forum fun and interesting for others.