Seeking Arrangement- SA- in India

[Mad Hatter]

Thanks a lot for the FR. Will make sure to steer clear of her. It would be great if you could link her SA profile as there are many profiles with "Princess" in their profiles.

Regards,

SC.

I think she blocked me after the encounter. So I cannot find her profile. The profile text will say "the crown sits on my head" or something like that. That is the giveaway.

[Mad Hatter]

Firstly what she provides is exactly what I want in a sugar baby, or just any girl I meet. To connect with me emotionally and tell me about herself. In bed to be vocal, indian girls are deadbeat, they don't make noises or talk dirty in bed. Making noises is like 10 x times better during action. You imo got the very best. But you are looking for an hooker, not a sugar lady. She was a sugar babe in the true sense. I would want to meet her.

As for the anus problem, I have no idea what that is, and I can only know how much it disgusts me after seeing it. But with all the net positives, the girl being fun, enjoying, being vocal, drinking and dancing and truly having a good time, I can prolly ignore that aspect. To each our own, but yeah I think this kind of behaviour is rare in India, and you really found a gem of that. Too bad, you are into the pump and go kind. Like every place in India is the pump and go kind. She made herself vulnerable to you, got to be something in her personality for sure. If anyone finds her profile link me.

I understand what you are saying dude, But honestly this was like if everything you have mentioned was turned to the extreme and to the point where it was too much. Allow me to explain.

First, if you look through my profile history you will see that I have had sugar babies around the world and have good friendships with quite a few of them. I currently have two with whom I share a special rapport and we hang out and know a lot about each other. SO, I think I know what I am talking about when it comes to sugar babies.

Now allow me to explain a few points.

There is having a conversation. And there is talking too much. For example. I told her the before that we would go for dosa in the morning and she spoke for 5 minutes about how "Bangalore dosas are legendary, I dream about dosas, I have eaten dosas all over Bangalore, Bangalore dosas are unique, Bangalore dosas are gift to mankind. " Then we meet in the morning and we go to a famous dosa place and the story was "I don't like dosas, I never heard about this place. I will just have a coffee instead. ". Then we talk about the past and she talked to me about her ex husband for 15 minutes about how he made her look like the crazy one.

There is drinking and chilling and then there is "pounding down vodka at 10:30 am and dancing to some hip hop music in a hip hop style" Nothing sexy about that.

I know what are sexy noises and what is dirty talk. Saying "you feel so good, don't stop, oh god, I love the way you do this" is sexy. Saying "this lady is opening up for you. " "This lady is getting ready for you. " "This lady is wide open. " is not sexy, especially when she spoke about herself in the 3rd person.

And why don't you go and google "prolapse anus" and see what you find.

It appears to me that you have not had a true sugar baby so you think this one could be a gem. But each to their own.

[Shnshan7]

Sorry sir but I don't think you need explain this level details of sugar daddy helplessness here. There are many newbies and girls watch these post so I recommend refrain such details here. Also I think we can teach lesson which is possible if you have good contacts, we being seniors and most of our friends are in good posts and if you have such friends whom you can explain your bachelor stuff, you can always involve them to teach lesson to these girls.
Also any girl will still be scared even if family know about her as they may getting money but still don’t want to get exposed in front of relations. If they are scamming and any guy has guts because he doesn’t have to worry to explain to wife because either he is divorced or bachelor then he can take these actions easily.

I don't think you got what I was trying to say. My view was based on what I've actually faced. This is my 9th year on SA and I've been scammed enough times. If you were able to get your revenge when you got scammed, let us know. Things work differently in practice, than the way we'd ideally like them to work.

No girl who risks exposure will put her real pic on SA. You say 'sticking pics of her on SA'. Do you mean a fake profile made by you? That's highly illegal (enough ex boyfriends have done that and been prosecuted). Even if she does put her real pic, she'll say it's put by someone else.

If you trace her ID from a money transfer (as Ruckus2981 appears to have done and I have done in a similar case) what will you say? If you message her father or company, she'll say you are a creepy uncle who is stalking her, paid her some money to (for e.g.) help in an event and now expects sexual favors. She'll probably have screenshots of a fake TG chat to prove it. There's a chance her parent or company will go to the cops. For some complaints, like stalking, the cops are required to investigate. Maybe they won't, but does a senior professional want to take that chance?

The bank account you pay to, will probably not be hers. So if you send evidence, it will clear her and you will be asked for what purpose you paid. Do you want to risk IT taking in interest in your bank account? I know one case where it happened. If you paid cash, there's no proof of anything.
I have been told (in a return message) by the father of a scammer, that he will go to the cops for defaming his daughter.

Don't underestimate her ability to trace you (the hotel or payment app, will give your details to the cops) and write to your company or family. We guys risk more from exposure. This won't happen unless you initiate it.

Under the law in India, if you call a girl a prostitute in public, or in writing, you can be guilty of 'outraging the modesty of a woman'. In theory that's a 2 year jail term. In practice, its an opportunity for the cops to extract money from you, especially if you are older and well placed. If she belongs to a different religion, you can get into serious trouble with her community people. Even if, as a NRI, you don't face the risk of cops, you might wonder if it is worth your time to go after her for a relatively small amount. Even if it hurts your ego more than your wallet.

Its a lot simpler not to pay an advance. If you have lost money in a scam, think of it a tuition fee to learn how this works.

[SexDivine78]

LOL the profile says she is as spiritual as she is materialistic and references Buddha 🤣, these hoes are full of shit.

I have never understood these 35+ chicks calling themselves sugar babe:-the. But then her profile is full of contradictions. Damn the level of delusion is unreal.

[Phil50]

Sticking pictures of her on SA, sending her SA ad to her family isn't illegal. You aren't even saying anything, just mentioning what it is. Also, I don't think after seeing her ad evidence anyone going to put you in jail for calling her a "rand". Thats not how India works, that's like saying everytime someone abuses you, you go and file a complaint and they end up in jail. No police would even look at it. After presenting proof of SA and scams she will be ruined. She wouldn't go to police herself as it exposes her, she's scamming people rofl. Her respect with family will obviously be 0.

I don't think you got what I was trying to say. My view was based on what I've actually faced. This is my 9th year on SA and I've been scammed enough times. If you were able to get your revenge when you got scammed, let us know. Things work differently in practice, than the way we'd ideally like them to work.

No girl who risks exposure will put her real pic on SA. You say 'sticking pics of her on SA'. Do you mean a fake profile made by you? That's highly illegal (enough ex boyfriends have done that and been prosecuted). Even if she does put her real pic, she'll say it's put by someone else.

If you trace her ID from a money transfer (as Ruckus2981 appears to have done and I have done in a similar case) what will you say? If you message her father or company, she'll say you are a creepy uncle who is stalking her, paid her some money to (for e.g.) help in an event and now expects sexual favors. She'll probably have screenshots of a fake TG chat to prove it. There's a chance her parent or company will go to the cops. For some complaints, like stalking, the cops are required to investigate. Maybe they won't, but does a senior professional want to take that chance?

The bank account you pay to, will probably not be hers. So if you send evidence, it will clear her and you will be asked for what purpose you paid. Do you want to risk IT taking in interest in your bank account? I know one case where it happened. If you paid cash, there's no proof of anything.
I have been told (in a return message) by the father of a scammer, that he will go to the cops for defaming his daughter.

Don't underestimate her ability to trace you (the hotel or payment app, will give your details to the cops) and write to your company or family. We guys risk more from exposure. This won't happen unless you initiate it.

Under the law in India, if you call a girl a prostitute in public, or in writing, you can be guilty of 'outraging the modesty of a woman'. In theory that's a 2 year jail term. In practice, its an opportunity for the cops to extract money from you, especially if you are older and well placed. If she belongs to a different religion, you can get into serious trouble with her community people. Even if, as a NRI, you don't face the risk of cops, you might wonder if it is worth your time to go after her for a relatively small amount. Even if it hurts your ego more than your wallet.

Its a lot simpler not to pay an advance. If you have lost money in a scam, think of it a tuition fee to learn how this works.

[GuyTwo7]

I am a lot younger so I guess that maturity isn't in me yet. As life moves on, people stop giving fucks or caring. However I guess I am off the age where I met a lot of such people in my generation. The "I don't care attitude" dies real fast when shit actually hits the ceiling. Just because she replied with a rebuttal, hardly means she's not shit scared behind the screen. My generation don't understand consequences till it happens to them for real, until then all in their head is "I am too awesome for anything to happen"...

Ruckus2981 bro I don't know how much or how you've lost the money but what Indian Pikachu said is right; you should probably go ahead and teach her a lesson.

I hope you're not using your real phone number, facebook ID etc. Have 2-3 spare / disposable ones for mongering. She can't file any complaint if she doesn't know your real identity.

[SymonWestt]

Her standard rate was 8 K for 2 - Few months back.
She is very friendly and cooperative. Yes , she is plump.

Met below BLR-SA girl couple of weeks back.

#Cookie babe.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...5-a889f17b0c9b

Collge gal, Little plump and one shorter side. Superb attitude and very cooperative in deed.

Damage- 10 k for 3-4 hrs.

TIA.

OCLTR.

[Christmas Tre]

It's about time someone said this. Well done.

The thrill of SA is Seeking (pun intended) connections
/ contacts on your own by buying a subscription and finding out vs "seeking" contacts from members who did their homework / took the dive.

No offence buddy to you, a $85 for an experienced monger like you shouldn't be a problem IMHO.

[Newbie1998]

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...6-c1510cc7a20f

LOL the profile says she is as spiritual as she is materialistic and references Buddha 🤣, these hoes are full of shit.

[Geek40]

If anyone quotes above what I pay (20 k, which is the rate for most of the women who tick my boxes), I don't negotiate at all. I just say I don't pay that and will respectfully pass.

When pressed to give my figure, I say 'You know what you are worth and I don't want to question that'. And 'I don't want to be treated as a cheapo by offering anything less'.
Several of them immediately offer a lower rate. 30 k becomes 20 k. Though I still don't agree, as there's plenty of choice out there.

There are many amateur girls who might for e.g. Be looking to make 30-35 k a month (the typical monthly salary of a IT executive) and are willing to sleep with just 1 guy in a month for that. It's not difficult for them to find that one person, so they stick to their rate. If they don't find anyone they won't drop rates, because they can manage without the money and the original quote becomes a measure of their self worth (or they have a GF who says she does not go below XXX). You can get a feel of what they are looking for, with some chat.

Have been chatting up with multiple girls from Mumbai SA. In last week or so atleast 15 girls have quoted 30 k for short term meet. Just a couple of them have quoted in the range of 10-12 k. The ones quoting 10-12 k are usually less educated or are WGs. I think the analysis of brother Phil50 is correct that even if they get one or two meets in a month at that quote it works for them.

[Indian Pikachu]

I am a lot younger so I guess that maturity isn't in me yet. As life moves on, people stop giving fucks or caring. However I guess I am off the age where I met a lot of such people in my generation. The "I don't care attitude" dies real fast when shit actually hits the ceiling. Just because she replied with a rebuttal, hardly means she's not shit scared behind the screen. My generation don't understand consequences till it happens to them for real, until then all in their head is "I am too awesome for anything to happen". The fact she scammed you, we know she's in over her head mentally, not in her state of natural mind.

Send her dad the pictures and say what she does. Trust me as much as she pretends it won't affect her, it will destroy her. Start by fuking with the family, then progress to shooting her HR and boss a message (not with real identity). Emailing her HR with anon email, and her boss will be kinda cool. Destroy her personally and professionally. Don't be a pussy. Don't send proof of money, that means you were mongering, appear as someone just showing her dad she's a working girl, and appear to the company for the same. Take it to the next level if this doesn't work, and I bet it will.

I do want to know, you said she took your money and walked out the door, and then you said you have proof of money transfer. How does that add up? Like she took money online and showed up and left? Or she showed up, you paid her online before deed, and then she left?

Well having been scammed by a Mumbai chick who literally took my money and walked out of the the door, I managed to trace her on FB, LinkedIn. I managed to get her fathers FB profile and heck even her grandmothers. When I told her I was going to show them the chats, her SA profile, proof of the money being transferred, she didn't even flinch for a second, instead she threatened me that she will go to the cyber police for stalking, etc.

Chicks are very smart these days, I also noticed that they have a group or a BF that is backing them with these scams.

In the end, you ponder and weigh out the hassle of messing with her vs your peace of mind. That's what it boils down to.

[Kaling23]

Meeting the Ash tomorrow, four hours 80 k.

She shared the pics, she is sophisticated and 24 y lady.

Any suggestions or advice please.

How was your experience with her?

Was she worth it?

[GlucoseDad]

Thanks a lot for the FR. Will make sure to steer clear of her. It would be great if you could link her SA profile as there are many profiles with "Princess" in their profiles.

Regards,

SC.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...6-c1510cc7a20f

[Ruckus2981]

Hi guys,

Mongering in Bangalore for quite sometime via SPs and a few Indies. Don't have an SA membership yet but FRs here are enticing. For now, seeking out help with any SA contacts anyone is looking to share. Happy to exchange my contacts or help in any other way possible. Thank you in advance, my PM is open.

Might go for a membership later this year but looking to explore the experience for now with help.

The thrill of SA is Seeking (pun intended) connections / contacts on your own by buying a subscription and finding out vs "seeking" contacts from members who did their homework / took the dive.

No offence buddy to you, a $85 for an experienced monger like you shouldn't be a problem IMHO.

[Ruckus2981]

Sticking pictures of her on SA, sending her SA ad to her family isn't illegal. You aren't even saying anything, just mentioning what it is. Also, I don't think after seeing her ad evidence anyone going to put you in jail for calling her a "rand". Thats not how India works, that's like saying everytime someone abuses you, you go and file a complaint and they end up in jail. No police would even look at it. After presenting proof of SA and scams she will be ruined. She wouldn't go to police herself as it exposes her, she's scamming people rofl. Her respect with family will obviously be 0.

Well having been scammed by a Mumbai chick who literally took my money and walked out of the the door, I managed to trace her on FB, LinkedIn. I managed to get her fathers FB profile and heck even her grandmothers. When I told her I was going to show them the chats, her SA profile, proof of the money being transferred, she didn't even flinch for a second, instead she threatened me that she will go to the cyber police for stalking, etc.

Chicks are very smart these days, I also noticed that they have a group or a BF that is backing them with these scams.

In the end, you ponder and weigh out the hassle of messing with her vs your peace of mind. That's what it boils down to.