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09-20-23 10:20 #13102Senior Member

Posts: 7457In 2012, MittWitt boldly pledged that his brilliant Repub policies would reduce the unemployment rate to 6% by the end of his first presidential term:
Originally Posted by Tiny12
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https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...6-unemployment
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09-20-23 05:06 #13101Senior Member

Posts: 7457Mitch reminds us of Grinbitch's failed attempt to destroy the Clinton / Dem economy
Rather than contribute to, change or meaningfully subtract from the Clinton / Dem policies that produced the historic recovery, jobs creation, economic expansion and budget surpluses of the Clinton years, even slavishly loyal longtime Repub Menace to America Moscow Mitch could not help noticing iconic Repub former Speaker of the House Nude Grinbitch's government shutdowns accomplished nothing but bad news for his beloved Repub Party.
Which, hilariously, Moscow Mitch sees as "critically important for the American people" to avoid. Those who love Great Repub Recessions, Massive Repub Jobs Destruction, Skyrocketing Repub Deficits with nothing to show for it and all those other wonderful things the USA gets when politically and electorally good things happen for Repubs, that is.
Yeah, it would have been a refreshing change if that classic old Repub had at least mentioned in passing that those Repub government shutdowns are also generally bad / losers for America, the American people, USA jobs, the USA economy, the Great Repub Deficits, etc etc etc.
But considering none of those things are top, middle or bottom of mind for a Repub and his Party's only concern, ever, is for its political and election prospects, I suppose that is not a reasonable expectation.
McConnell warns that shutdowns have 'always been a loser for Republicans'
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...ose-rcna105885
"Ive seen a few of them over the years. They never have produced a policy change and they've always been a loser for Republicans politically," he said.
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09-20-23 04:05 #13100Senior Member

Posts: 7457From your first link:
Originally Posted by SubCmdr
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Ah yes, those pesky public opinions and democratic pressures.. Must reduce the influence of that at all costs.The Constitution granted state legislatures the power to elect United States senators. Supporters of the Constitution argued that this method of election would strengthen the states' ties to the national government and insulate senators from shifting public opinion. To further distance the Senate from democratic pressures, the framers also provided that only one-third of the Senate would stand for election every two years.
Why, if it got out of hand the next thing you know those 3/5th voters might find themselves with a full 5/5th of a vote. And that will require a slew of other Southern Straregies and Shenanigans to MAGA like it was in those sorely missed 3/5th days.
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09-19-23 20:17 #13099Senior Member

Posts: 6685USA Constitution (The Remix)
"In 1787 the framers of the United States Constitution established in Article I the structure and powers of Congress. They debated the idea of a Congress made up of two houses. One house would be, in the words of Virginia's George Mason, the "grand depository of the democratic principle of government. " To counter this popular influence in the national government, James Madison of Virginia proposed another house that would be small, deliberative, and independent from the larger, more democratic house. This became the Senate. ".
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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https://www.senate.gov/about/origins-foundations.htm
Many aspects of the constitution was a compromise in order to get it adopted. 3/5 of a person clause comes to mind.
https://www.theusconstitution.org/ne...hs-compromise/
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09-19-23 19:57 #13098Senior Member

Posts: 3946Silly I think not
"That's plain silly Marquis. Biden would lose to any of the Republican candidates save one. But he would beat Charles Manson and Donald Trump.
Romney was a management consultant then private equity head for Bain capital. He created more jobs than he destroyed, and improved productivity at the companies he advised and helped acquire. If you believe experience in the private sector is relevant to government, then Romney's your man if you want the USA to be an economic and industrial power house.
Trump on the other hand started with $400 million from his father and over $1 billion from bondholders and banks who he didn't repay. And that was back when $1. 4 billion was a lot of money. And ended up with assets that are worth less than what he started with after you account for inflation.
You and I paid a lot more taxes than Trump did in many years, because he was able to use that $1 billion that he didn't repay the bondholders as a carried forward tax loss for many years. Based on Trump's experience in the private sector, you might expect him to run up the national debt and push for rock bottom interest rates, like he did with his Atlantic City casinos and banks. And he did that. Romney on the other hand was better prepared from his business experience to make America competitive and prosperous again.
That's not to say that Trump wasn't head and shoulders above Biden in terms of economic policy. He was.
Flake is an American hero. Please educate me on how he used Mexican slave labor. ".
https://www.newsmax.com/jeffcrouere/...18/id/1134904/
Flake is no hero hes a turd if he had an ounce of honor he and Romney would both kill themselves for bringing such shame to the Church.
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09-19-23 19:51 #13097Senior Member

Posts: 7457I'll take that as an "I can't provide any links for anything remotely like that with Biden because there aren't any" response.
Originally Posted by Tiny12
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Or is it another, "Google (or Politifact or all available evidence, etc) is Left Leaning and the Repub Party memo demands that I say it can not be trusted so I will stick with that notion as my excuse for not substantiating what I just pulled out of my butt" response?
Joe Biden is no less lucid and cognitively capable as any 40 year old news anchor on any national news program. And many times better informed and prepared to deal with real world presidential level issues than they are.
The only difference is he might speak more slowly and does dodge stutter-trigger words as necessary. Which requires more agile and nimble facility with the language than most public speakers have ever mastered at any age. I do not hear Joe Biden stumble or bobble over the wrong word or a mispronunciation of a word any more than any professional public speaker, politician or successful business executive 1/3 his age.
He is many times smoother and more confident in extemporaneous interviews than, say, Elon Musk, who is a stammering, lost, long awkward pause, word searching train wreck at such times.
In a debate, Joe Biden would make DeSantis sound like he had recently suffered a debilitating brain injury.
Against Trump, Joe Biden would slaughter him on the facts and on the solutions to whatever horrific problem Repubs have created even more thoroughly than he did in 2020. That is, if either DeSantis or Trump would have the balls to show up for a debate with Joe Biden or hide from it the way Trump did in 2020.
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09-19-23 19:40 #13096Senior Member

Posts: 3946"That's plain silly Marquis. Biden would lose to any of the Republican candidates save one. But he would beat Charles Manson and Donald Trump.
Romney was a management consultant then private equity head for Bain capital. He created more jobs than he destroyed, and improved productivity at the companies he advised and helped acquire. If you believe experience in the private sector is relevant to government, then Romney's your man if you want the USA to be an economic and industrial power house.
Trump on the other hand started with $400 million from his father and over $1 billion from bondholders and banks who he didn't repay. And that was back when $1. 4 billion was a lot of money. And ended up with assets that are worth less than what he started with after you account for inflation.
You and I paid a lot more taxes than Trump did in many years, because he was able to use that $1 billion that he didn't repay the bondholders as a carried forward tax loss for many years. Based on Trump's experience in the private sector, you might expect him to run up the national debt and push for rock bottom interest rates, like he did with his Atlantic City casinos and banks. And he did that. Romney on the other hand was better prepared from his business experience to make America competitive and prosperous again.
That's not to say that Trump wasn't head and shoulders above Biden in terms of economic policy. He was.
Flake is an American hero. Please educate me on how he used Mexican slave labor. ".
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ground-states/
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ed-nationally/
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023...lican-in-2024/
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...gop-candidate/
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09-19-23 19:33 #13095Senior Member

Posts: 3946Well
"That's plain silly Marquis. Biden would lose to any of the Republican candidates save one. But he would beat Charles Manson and Donald Trump.
Romney was a management consultant then private equity head for Bain capital. He created more jobs than he destroyed, and improved productivity at the companies he advised and helped acquire. If you believe experience in the private sector is relevant to government, then Romney's your man if you want the USA to be an economic and industrial power house.
Trump on the other hand started with $400 million from his father and over $1 billion from bondholders and banks who he didn't repay. And that was back when $1. 4 billion was a lot of money. And ended up with assets that are worth less than what he started with after you account for inflation.
You and I paid a lot more taxes than Trump did in many years, because he was able to use that $1 billion that he didn't repay the bondholders as a carried forward tax loss for many years. Based on Trump's experience in the private sector, you might expect him to run up the national debt and push for rock bottom interest rates, like he did with his Atlantic City casinos and banks. And he did that. Romney on the other hand was better prepared from his business experience to make America competitive and prosperous again.
That's not to say that Trump wasn't head and shoulders above Biden in terms of economic policy. He was.
Flake is an American hero. Please educate me on how he used Mexican slave labor. ".
I've seen several interviews with him over the years including the Daily Show w / Trevor Noah LMAO.
Where all he ever has to say is how much he, loves his dirtcheap Mexican slaves / labourers on his ranch.
I've heard him swoon over them every time he spoke like he was going to cry over how little they let him pay them!!
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09-19-23 15:37 #13094Senior Member

Posts: 2386That's plain silly Marquis. Biden would lose to any of the Republican candidates save one. But he would beat Charles Manson and Donald Trump.
Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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Romney was a management consultant then private equity head for Bain capital. He created more jobs than he destroyed, and improved productivity at the companies he advised and helped acquire. If you believe experience in the private sector is relevant to government, then Romney's your man if you want the USA to be an economic and industrial power house.
Trump on the other hand started with $400 million from his father and over $1 billion from bondholders and banks who he didn't repay. And that was back when $1. 4 billion was a lot of money. And ended up with assets that are worth less than what he started with after you account for inflation.
You and I paid a lot more taxes than Trump did in many years, because he was able to use that $1 billion that he didn't repay the bondholders as a carried forward tax loss for many years. Based on Trump's experience in the private sector, you might expect him to run up the national debt and push for rock bottom interest rates, like he did with his Atlantic City casinos and banks. And he did that. Romney on the other hand was better prepared from his business experience to make America competitive and prosperous again.
That's not to say that Trump wasn't head and shoulders above Biden in terms of economic policy. He was.
Flake is an American hero. Please educate me on how he used Mexican slave labor.
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09-19-23 15:25 #13093Senior Member

Posts: 2386So, as opposed to links describing or showing Biden lying, and there are many, I'm supposed to find links of a major televised campaign speech where Biden says something about someone who won't run against him. That should be easy but it's pointless. And find where he says we might begin World War II. OK, he is kind of senile, but I think he knows World War II happened a long time ago.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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Unusually, your post isn't comprehensible, to me at least, so I don't understand what you're getting at. But I suspect you're trying to do the three card monte deal. Like where we're supposed to totally ignore every Republican state with a large population and every Democratic state with a small population and then say the country is a an oligarchy ruled by the landed class.
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09-19-23 15:16 #13092Senior Member

Posts: 2386Dear Tooms,
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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Politifact has a left of center bias.
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/politifact
And furthermore your Politifact link lumps MSNBC in with NBC. NBC lies a lot less than MSNBC.
I stand by what I said.
Sincerely,
Fair and Balanced Tiny.
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09-19-23 09:23 #13091Senior Member

Posts: 4637Anything you don't like is Fox News. That was actually Matt Taibbi doing something you don't recognize Spidy, telling the truth.
Originally Posted by Spidy
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And by lies, you mean what? You mean Joe Biden did not get Shokin fired? You mean Shokin was not investigating Hunter for a corrupt business deal? You mean Hunter did not say in his laptop that Dad gets half of all he earns? You mean the FBI did not want that 1023 non-classified document released? You mean the memo did not say $5 million for each Biden? And Hunter Biden did not himself say that he would not have been hired by Burisma if not for his last name?
Originally Posted by Spidy
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Then there are Hunter Biden's shell companies, Devon Archer's testimony about Joe Biden's presence during his son's business calls, Joe dining with Burisma exec Vadym Pozharsky at Cafe Milano.
They are all lies and pretenses?
Speaking of lies, that story is months old, and Devin Archer did testify. He even went on Tucker Carlson.
Originally Posted by Spidy
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You must live in a different country than I do.
Originally Posted by Spidy
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09-19-23 04:14 #13090Senior Member

Posts: 7457So it seems it was rigged in favor of land barons over the greater number of individuals from the beginning.
Originally Posted by SubCmdr
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And all while creating the illusion of numerical fairness for those most likely to lose a ton of $20 bills at a 3-Card Monte table.
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09-19-23 04:07 #13089Senior Member

Posts: 7457Links, please
We are all anxious to see the video clips and quotes of Joe Biden THREE TIMES in a major televized campaign speech cite a person who in no way ever ran against him or ever will run against him, by law, as his upcoming election opponent and close with a big, dramatic, obviously rehearsed warning that we might begin WWII any minute now.
Originally Posted by Tiny12
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Please provide them as soon as possible.
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09-19-23 04:01 #13088Senior Member

Posts: 3946Lmao
Oh yes he has. Both are world class liars. And Biden's a world class plagiarizer too.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...iar-but-trump/
But bad Orange Man.








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