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  1. #18305
    Classic, Emporium, KC, MTR, 1001, Malio all takes cards. I remember seeing card options in other places like Kimochi, Groovy, Orchid too but I wouldn't use my card in Kota Indah or similar type places. You are better off using Visa instead MC / Amex. Go with Google Pay if you have that option. Unfortunately no Apple Pay available in Indonesia yet.

    Don't just handout the card to hostess / receptionist. Ask to hand over the machine itself so that you can do the swipe or insert.

    Quote Originally Posted by TrueGent  [View Original Post]
    I went back about 100 pages but the info I needed was not cut and dry. I was wondering if one of you kind gents could answer a question for me please. When it comes to Hotel Classic or the massage places and the like, is it possible to pay for all the services by card or better yet a mobile wallet app? Minus tips of course being in cash.

    Considering the low amounts you can withdraw per transaction, I want to minimize my trips to the ATM.

  2. #18304

    Payments

    I went back about 100 pages but the info I needed was not cut and dry. I was wondering if one of you kind gents could answer a question for me please. When it comes to Hotel Classic or the massage places and the like, is it possible to pay for all the services by card or better yet a mobile wallet app? Minus tips of course being in cash.

    Considering the low amounts you can withdraw per transaction, I want to minimize my trips to the ATM.

  3. #18303

    Jakarta Day 1 and 2

    Returning the favor to those that provided field reports.

    Visa.

    I tried several times to obtain the evisa but could not figure out how to pay. So arrived at CGK with no evisa and expected to wait one hour in the VOA line. It took about 8 minutes and I had my visa. Don't forget to follow up by scanning the QR code. You'll know what I mean when you arrive.

    Grab / Taxi.

    I read a recent post about finding Grab past the "Bluebird stand. " I had no idea what is Bluebird so I found a taxi stand outside. 360,000 to my hotel in Central. Not a bad price. I then realized I was at the Bluebird stand LOL.

    Hotel.

    I checked into the Luminor Pecengognongogngognognnananan about 2 hours from deplaning. I saw a massage services sign in the lobby. Checked into my room and showered and then called for massage.

    15 min later, knocking on my door. I expected a granny but was surprised to find a pretty 30's lady. I could tell her ass was about 10 pounds heavy. The massage was very good. Then she offered an HJ. I overpaid because I let the little head do the thinking.

    Emporium.

    After my massage I went to Emporium. It is literally next door to Luminor. I was introduced to David and he had me take a seat and sat with me to discuss what I liked. There were about 10 girls each for the 1. 2 and 1. 4 groups. I really could not tell the difference. I selected a thin and beautiful girl.

    Locker. Pool. Then off to a room. Fun times!

    I noticed: They have a very large staff. They are very organized. The facilities are very clean. [Deleted by Admin]

    Tinder.

    Later that night, Tinder1 arrived at my hotel for an overnight. She was tight! I needed a running start to bottom out my nuts. Sweet girl. I may see her again.

    Saturday, met up with Tinder2. Age 22 but later when naked, her body looked older. If you take away the fake lashes, fake dyed hair, lipstick, etc, I think she was probably a 5.

    Then I followed up with Tinder3. I thought it was strange she messaged me on Tinder and asked if I want a massage. I should have gone with my instincts and deleted her but the little head told me otherwise.

    Then I thought it was strange that she asked for my name and room number instead of accepting my offer to meet her outside the hotel. Little head, again.

    She texted me and said she was waiting in the lobby in front of the elevators. She wore a mask. Told her remove mask. Catfish! She said she was with an agency and then called them. I needed her to leave and I needed to avoid getting stabbed so I gave her some IDR and told her bye bye.

    Then later I get a whatsapp from a "girl" that texted "Hi. Do you remember me?" Her whatsapp name is "Massage Traditional. " I replied "how did we meet?" She wrote back and said she saw my Tinder location was Jakarta. It must have been same scamming agency! So I blocked that a-hole.

    The End.

  4. #18302
    You will be surprised to see the atmosphere hasn't changed when returning next year. Even local Jakartan struggled sometimes. If you are drinking, watch what you are paying for! I guess only reason they are still in business is a good percentage of 7/8 standard girls and it's more of a pub setup for you to eat drink and have fun with the companion of a pretty girl. And yes, you are paying for the time.

    Sumo definitely offers full meal deal considering you get there noon to evening. I guess any later than that, their girls status goes to "Battery about to die ".

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    (nNrth side).


    New Medika 400 k 35 girls.

    Next street over closer to the hospital. Two entrances. One entrance across from Indramaret. The second on the back side which has the girls. It was two rooms connected with a hallway. Mamasan approaches me and I tell her what I want. She shows me the 2 girls closest to us. They were ok. I might have taken one but I said no because I am pissed off on how they just grab the first girl rather than what I asked for. She then yells out I want thin with big boobs which of course makes them shy. I walk away and look down the rows of girls. I see 2 with big boobs. Not sure if skinny or not. They are hiding form me. I make eye contact but they are shy now from the big mouth mamasan or just not interested. Wonderful damn start. I walk into the far room and sit down for 15 minutes to watch a few girls walk by. They show no interest and no mamasans come to talk to me so I leave.

    I will return again next year on a Saturday night at 8:00 pm and see what happens.


    Sumo Spa told me no girls for fun, only massage. I do not believe.


    Please do not tell long yellow fruit child I am here! Just kidding. I am not here.

  5. #18301

    Mars Spa Pondok Indah

    Arrived 10 pm Thurs night. It's just one small room with loud music bumping, 15-20 girls sitting on a bench on one side and a few large booths across from them. There were a few large groups and dudes just lined up on the remaining wall bench space. Had a junior high school dance feel with all the girls on one side and the dudes on the other and nobody dancing yet. I repeated with a girl from last year so didn't have to stand on the sidelines to check out the talent. Quality of girls are nice but I would come early as it's not conducive to sit and hang if busy since it is a small spot. Session includes massage first, rooms are decent, 450 k.

  6. #18300
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    (nNrth side).

    Glow Spa 500 k 1 hour.

    Across from Travel Hotel. Opened early June and I went there late June. I walked into the entrance room 1.5 m x 1.5 m with a desk and 3-4 guys standing there making it very small. I did not like that. They have a list of 5-6 offerings (HJ, BJ, sex.). But I can get 2 girls for that across the street so I walked out.

    Mari Enjoy 300 k 13 girls.

    Three streets north of Burger King. Across from Paragon Mall. You are on the correct street when you turn around and see Abuba Steak sign across the street. Bar is on your left. Someone will greet you outside most times. Place is a dump. 1 towel. No tissue to clean up. I took a nice 5 foot girl there, an Oriental face tall girl who had baby damage but firm boobs and laughed a lot, and one other. They get up from sitting rather slowly so I thought they did not want me, but in the room they were fine. All 3 either liked sex or were great actresses that was the thing for me. It was like they had not had any for a while. There is a massage place just past it is just a massage place. The karaoke across is just a karaoke place..
    Thanks for those new places, I didn't ever go to Pondok Indah and places close to Taruma Hospital. It will change from Classic, Travel and KI.

    In Kelapa Gading, I recommend you Blow Art where you get blow without condom, not the hottest girls, but cool girls, and very good experience! It is just so far away.

  7. #18299
    I definitely missed Zeros somewhere down the line 😁. Here the is screenshot.

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLove  [View Original Post]
    Zippos, check again please. IDR1,500,000 is $93 and not $930 unless you wanted to type IDR 15,000,000 and made an error. If it’s just $93 I am game.
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  8. #18298
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLove  [View Original Post]
    Zippos, check again please. IDR1,500,000 is $93 and not $930 unless you wanted to type IDR 15,000,000 and made an error. If its just $93 I am game.
    The fee for the Multiple Visa is IDR 15,000,000 (15 Million).

    ~BKK

  9. #18297

    Combine forces

    Landing around August 18.

    PM me if anybody wants to meet up.

  10. #18296
    LoveItHere69.
    Thank you for all the research and honest report.

    What day of the week were you at Kepala Gading? Wondering if some nights close later than others.

  11. #18295

    Info

    (nNrth side).

    Glow Spa 500 k 1 hour.

    Across from Travel Hotel. Opened early June and I went there late June. I walked into the entrance room 1.5 m x 1.5 m with a desk and 3-4 guys standing there making it very small. I did not like that. They have a list of 5-6 offerings (HJ, BJ, sex.). But I can get 2 girls for that across the street so I walked out.

    Mari Enjoy 300 k 13 girls.

    Three streets north of Burger King. Across from Paragon Mall. You are on the correct street when you turn around and see Abuba Steak sign across the street. Bar is on your left. Someone will greet you outside most times. Place is a dump. 1 towel. No tissue to clean up. I took a nice 5 foot girl there, an Oriental face tall girl who had baby damage but firm boobs and laughed a lot, and one other. They get up from sitting rather slowly so I thought they did not want me, but in the room they were fine. All 3 either liked sex or were great actresses that was the thing for me. It was like they had not had any for a while. There is a massage place just past it is just a massage place. The karaoke across is just a karaoke place.

    Classic 1st floor club has indeed increased entrance fee from 5 k to 30 k. Communication issue so still unsure of girl costs.

    XXX.

    (South side) Pondok Indah.

    Mr. Braid 350 k and 450 k 30 girls.

    Across from Gandaria Mall (my favorite mall). Big sign. Girls upstairs Yellow tag 350 k and red teg 450 k. They sat in their colored groups when I was there. Not too dark so you can see the girls. The girls seemed a little thick. The girl I took kept looking at her boobs like I was leaving marks on them, tried to drive (which I hate), and moaned too much. I corrected her and was able to finish.

    New Vins Spa 300 k and pricier levels.

    Straight south on the same street as Mr. Braid. Walked past and did not see it twice. Third time was a charm. Dark small sign. Mamasan April nice and speaks English. Wanted to show pictures but I said show me the girls in real. Took a girl and she put her phone in a locker next the rooms. I think she asked me if I wanted to do the same. That would have been tremendously stupid of me! The girl I took spoke very little English yet she kept trying to talk every 3 minutes so could never concentrate. She also said condom twice before even undressing which is not a good sign. She checked her boobs like I was leaving marks on them and also checked the condom was on when trying to do doggie. The door did not lock and was a sliding door which would make it easy for someone to reach in and grab something. Midway all the lights turned off. I had my phone so turned on the flashlight. Lights out for 3 minutes. Kind of odd that the air conditioner light stayed on. The whole thing made my spider sense tingle so I could not get hard but twice for just a few minutes. At the end she asked if she was good and I shook my head no and put two thumbs down. No tip.

    Mars Spa 455 k and pricier levels.

    Never made it there.

    XXX.

    (west side) Just west of Royal Taruma Hospital. Info taken Friday starting 7:15 pm.

    Hot Pants 350 k 0 girls.

    Girls were supposed to be upstairs. There were 4 guys. 1 employee. 1 possible employee. 2 customers. No girls in the room.

    Cahaya Arwana 350 k 4 girls.

    5 second walk next door. 4 girls in the dark all sitting in different areas playing on their phones showing no interest. Mamasan motions more upstairs getting ready. I leave and she gets a little bitchy.

    Wijaya 77 350 k 3 girls.

    Another 5 second walk next door. 3 older little heavy / chubby sitting outside.

    New Medika 400 k 35 girls.

    Next street over closer to the hospital. Two entrances. One entrance across from Indramaret. The second on the back side which has the girls. It was two rooms connected with a hallway. Mamasan approaches me and I tell her what I want. She shows me the 2 girls closest to us. They were ok. I might have taken one but I said no because I am pissed off on how they just grab the first girl rather than what I asked for. She then yells out I want thin with big boobs which of course makes them shy. I walk away and look down the rows of girls. I see 2 with big boobs. Not sure if skinny or not. They are hiding form me. I make eye contact but they are shy now from the big mouth mamasan or just not interested. Wonderful damn start. I walk into the far room and sit down for 15 minutes to watch a few girls walk by. They show no interest and no mamasans come to talk to me so I leave.

    I will return again next year on a Saturday night at 8:00 pm and see what happens.

    XXX.

    (east side) Kelapa Gading.

    Almost straight east of Classic Hotel when looking on a map.

    There is a street that runs in front of Mall of Indonesia with the brothel girls on the other side. I like to walk but it is near impossible to walk across that street. There are no stop lights for about 2 kilometers so everything is flying past you. So you have to walk 3 kilometers or more around just to cross the street!

    One the right (east) side of the street all within a group like the girls on the other side in a group. I got the prices but not always the times and no idea how many girls. I was tired, got a late start, and the places closed earlier than expected. This info was taken on a Wednesday night.

    550 k 90 minutes Mango Three Massage.

    750 k D'Heaven.

    430 k 1 hour Bro & Sis Massage (formerly Bosses).

    315 k 1 hour Blow Art (BJ only). 10 pm only one girl who was small but sexy. I should have asked her if she would have had sex but didn't.

    ? Happy Massage across from Blow Art (HJ only).

    The left (west) side of the street.

    84 k entrance fee Kings Cross. I asked how much the girls were and she said I had to ask the mamasan. I do not know if the entrance fee includes free drink or can be applied to the cost of the girl if I take a girl. So many other places with free or super cheap fees and since she was stupid not knowing the cost of the girls I left. That was all I needed to know.

    645 k 90 minutes Vermouth Lounge and Spa. There were 2 cashiers. I returned 20 minutes later and only the one sexy cashier was there. She was hot. I asked her if I could take her and she said no. I left crying.

    570 k 1 hour MTR2. 7 girls at 10:45. I did not take inventory of their looks. Midnight is closing time so mentally they have already checked out and will rush it. They had 2 papasans rather than mamasans which I am not particularly fond of. Also, they asked me if I wanted a drink first versus the norm I am used to with asking me if I want a girl first.

    500 k 1 hour Permata Karaoke and Spa. At 11:00 there were only 6 girls and none that I wanted. Closing at midnight. I asked where all the girls were and he said they went home already.

    Sumo Spa told me no girls for fun, only massage. I do not believe.

    Delta Spa. No damned idea. Place was already closed at 11:00.

    Crossed "The Street" at 11:15 pm and still dangerous.

    Seems as if Kelapa Gading all closes by 11 and midnight. All info gained in one day. I gave up rather quickly. Five cockroaches ran away when I turned on the light to my room at MP Hotel. I left the next day even though I paid for 2 nights. I ordered onion rings and calamari from the hotel restaurant but no calamari. I went to the mall and walked past a restaurant with several signs. One was orange chicken which I have not had forever. Can you guess what was out of stock? There was a 24 hour KFC and Taco Bell. Went there around midnight and of course the Taco Bell I wanted was closed but the KFC I did not want was open. Then there was the insanely impossible street I could barely cross. Higher prices of the girls with earlier closing times of the bars / spas. Everything screamed "get out" so I did. But before I left I scored my calamari at Master Squid in Mall of Indonesia. Thin strips in powder of seaweed, cheese, BBQ, or salt and pepper that they baked rather than battered and fried.

    XXXXX.

    Some guys say you will not be refused. BS. I have been refused 9+ times and even more silent rejections where I can tell they do not want to go with me. Several because I can take a long time to finish and they do not want to go through the same ordeal again. I get that and totally understand. They tell some of their friends and the friends refuse to go with me. I had trouble with a few girls and the friends believe her of course. Two (maybe more) yelled out I wanted thin with big boobs so that is demeaning and embarrassing so the girls hide like in New Medika happened to me. Some see me butterfly and refuse to see me again and the list goes on. Several I rejected because they never smiled or made eye contact. No words needed. I can read the signs.

    Some guys say all the girls go no condom. BS. I have had several street girls and many spa girls demand it. In fact, there is a bar that demands it. Kota Indah 'V Four Club' nearest the entrance to the complex with door facing the street. Go to pay for the girl and the mamasan and female boss both say "cap" to me. What is that? That is their word for condom. Never heard that used anywhere else. Took another girl the next day and two of the mamasan types say "cap" to me again. I never tried to not use the condom so I do not know if the girl would let me or not. But if they are saying it to me twice each visit then they surely have most of the girls trained.

    Some guys say the mamasans are so helpful. BS. Pay attention. Best seen at Kota Indah bars where the girls sit 6 deep. The mamas always grab the girls sitting at the customer tables or the closest girls meaning the first 1-3 deep. Never had them pull a girl from the back sitting at position 4, 5, or 6 in the very back.

    Mama Cha Cha told me the girl I wanted to repeat with would be there at 4:00 the next day. Walked in at 4:10 to give her a few more minutes. Excuse is the girl is putting on her makeup. I said great I hate all the makeup. She can put it on after we are done. Mama says she is not ready and does not want to come out not looking pretty. I told her she (the mama) is lying. Now the story is the girl is at the salon. I was pissed and let her know it. Took a girl from a different mama.
    Last edited by Admin3; 11-05-25 at 14:32.

  12. #18294
    Quote Originally Posted by DevSagar  [View Original Post]
    Please allow me to correct you. If my memory serves me right, there is no column of 100 K tip on that coupon which the girl presents to the client. It starts with 200 K, 300 K and so on and so forth. ... Since, you paid 200 K or more; you were not informed of this rule but I gave the chick 100 K hence how it unfolded to me. Tip is for service; great or bad that's my luck and between me and the customer but how much I give is my choice not to be forced out of me till I know the rule. It's fine as now I know all the rules.
    One of us obviously remembers the listed tip possibilities wrong, and it may very well be me.

    I agree with you. Tip should be for service, and it is unfortunate if that is not the case. So the price is then in practice 1. 433 or 1. 633 at Emporivm now, depending on the girl, + plus whatever extra tip-on-tip you want to give.

    IMO this is a bad thing, as it removes incentive for the girls to provide good service if they are now guaranteed a "tip" regardless of their service. In your case, with that one girl, I would probably have given a tip of zero. It would certainly have left a sour taste in my mouth if I had then been forced to pay her a tip of 200 k by management.

  13. #18293
    Zippos, check again please. IDR1,500,000 is $93 and not $930 unless you wanted to type IDR 15,000,000 and made an error. If its just $93 I am game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippos  [View Original Post]
    Here is a fun fact, Indonesia is quoting IDR1,500,000 for 5 years tourist evisa. That's literally $930 and if you break it down that's equivalent to applying for 33 evisa! Whomever came up with that idea. Must be on some sort of special pills.

  14. #18292

    Tip for service

    Please allow me to correct you. If my memory serves me right, there is no column of 100 K tip on that coupon which the girl presents to the client. It starts with 200 K, 300 K and so on and so forth. I have always been paying cash. Also, let me clarify that last time my colleague also went there on my last trip with me as he did not know about this place; he gave a tip of 150 K cash to the chick and took a food bill as he paid by credit card and debited the account to his company. That MF has a huge travelling budget and I pointed it out to him, you lucky bastard you fuck chick on company expense. Also, allow me to inform all gents here that Papasan specifically came to meet me at my time and preponed his visit to the dentist. He also informed me if he's not there, other Mamasans would take care of me as now they know me well too as in less than 2 months I have been there 7 times, one time with my colleague. Since, you paid 200 K or more; you were not informed of this rule but I gave the chick 100 K hence how it unfolded to me. Tip is for service; great or bad that's my luck and between me and the customer but how much I give is my choice not to be forced out of me till I know the rule. It's fine as now I know all the rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    Surprised to hear that. I've only been to Emporivm twice, both last week, but I did not see any indication that a tip is mandatory, and indeed it would suck if it now is. I'm surprised because:

    1) Neither David, nor the mamsan I dealt with two days later, as David was not working, mentioned any tip.

    2) The girl I went with, she asked me at the end how I wanted to give her her tip (LOL, who says I am going to give you a tip, honey? Via coupon, or cash). At first I had no idea what coupon meant, but she showed me a small slip of paper that had four options for "tipping for service" that you could tick: 100,000, 200,000, 500,000, 1000,000. And I did not notice any mention of it being mandatory either, so had service been bad I would have tipped nothing (and perhaps then found out it is mandatory at the counter later? Dunno).

    As it was, I banged the girl twice without condom during our 90 minutes, so I guesstimated that a 500,000 should be a decent enough tip for that. Next time I, purely by coincidence, tipped 200,000 (happened to be the same chick). Service was good (the same), but only banged her twice.

  15. #18291

    My pov

    I wrote that I do not blame him. In my business, my customers trust me and I work on Pan country basis and likewise we share the same faith factor. It's the goodwill and faith. The only time he gave me a 1. 4 K girl in my last 5 sessions but not for the sixth chick, I was informed in advance about her price but not this time. I had taken the 1. 4 M chick as he chose it for me but when she came and sat with me, I observed she had a kind of a slight moustache and I sent her back before choosing a 1. 2 M chick. That was on my last trip. So, me or him assuming does not arise. He assumed that I would go with his choice which I did and I assumed that he would like a one time before inform me of 1. 4 M chick which he did not. So, that's my point but nevertheless, it's been a learning trip. He pinged me yesterday again to come but by that time I had emptied my juice in a Bumble chick. Sorry but my opinion is that as a customer I should be informed if the chick is of 1. 4 M. Have fun and enjoy. I depart.

    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    This particular point I don't think there's any reason to blame the papasan / David for. I don't see why you had any more reason to assume the girls were 1. 2 M girls than 1. 4 M girls, so you should simply have asked IMO.

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