Hong Kong Club Reports

[Turgid]

...... I don't even know how to form a relationship with civilian women that leads to sex.......

If its the average American woman its simple - Take her out on three dates then pounce. Be warned, however, its going to be expensive.

[Captain Solo]

$140 for the girls, $40 for ST room, $20 fichas, $10 in tips, total $210 for 30 minutes with a girl with very little communication, sometimes bad attitudes in bed. HK prices are getting near to US' level.

Sunday afternoon HK did not have hot talents. I went to the barber shop on Constitucion for a hair cut, spotted spinner Vanessa de Vera Cruz near hotel Rio Nilo, pretty face, nice, slim body, light skin, no blemishes, all natural assets, probably more beautiful than 90% HK girls. Had to bag her.

After haircut went over to look for her. She wanted 500 pesos for sexo sin ropa. We went up the long stairs to a 100-peso ST room. She was pleasant, smiling, kidding around. Out of her clothes, she looked like a teen ager, looked good, felt good, smelled good. My dick quickly rose without any stimulation. She seemed horny, wanted sex. We ravaged each other over a long session. She seemed to enjoy it, groaning softly at times. She felt so good and sexy. Session was better than with most HK girls. I would do her again. This is how you can fight HK's inflation.

[Zenduka1]

For me, HK is now about watching beautiful women and the shaving cream show where you can do some serious touching for a few dollars.

Ah for the good old days, long gone. (he sheds a tear).

Agree, this is where things are going if not already there. In the past my mongering friends, would take two girls up a day, now paying $150 it is one girl. I insist upon them not to pay $150 and that $100 at most is what they should. These are more older distinguished gentle-mongers so to speak who don't like to bargain for pussy. They are not dirty kinky mofos like me who know how to push the girl's emotional buttons. I'd assume it is the same for others and so the sum result is the club and the girls are losing money.

[Zenduka1]

Guys have been coming to Tijuana and over spending for as long as I've been going. This is nothing new and the girls don't base prices off of a few whales. They all hope to get guys like this but they don't expect it every time they work. Girls bragging about what they make is what drives other girls to work in HK. Some coke and realize that it's not true or it's only for a few so they go back to different clubs or whatever they did before.

I tell every girl I engage in the club the last girl I took up charged me $100 and walk away.

[Zenduka1]

Which was my point that you don't "make" a girl do anything. Also seems to be strange to just going around asking girls about going up and not doing anything. As far as the girls jumping on you and being so happy with you why is it that you have to pay at all? I know plenty of guys that have banged these girls for free when they really like you or just want to hang out.

You might want to brush up on how inflation works, it has been going up year over year so 6% in one month on top of what it has already gone up. HK charges what it thinks people will pay. Trust me if they really wanted to charge more and screw over people they could. The girls make prices not HK.

I'm not sure what super power you think you have to know how each girl feels by looking at them but they don't pay the club to work there. If you have any proof of this we would all enjoy to see it.

I like to go to a pretty girl that floats my boat smile at her and whisper in her ear if her labias are as sexy as her lips, as I brush my cheeks against her caress her neck with my lips, love to feel her heartbeat increase as she gets excited. I smile at her with our faces so close and tell her I will let her fuck me with her clits. I interlock hands and kiss the back of her palms. Usually they hold my arms and wrap it around their waists. I pull a dollar or two and slide it into their hands. I love doing these things and say some outrageously unusual things to them. I told a Mesero who approached us one time while with a girl and ordered me to buy her a drink, told him that I just met her and I am not sure if she has a dick or a pussy. LOL. He turned around and run, she bursted out in laughter. This is fun for me and the girls. Something I can never do anywhere in this world. There is no point going to HK for me and sit in the back somewhere and drool over the girls to take up and fuck. I do fuck but a girl a day while I am there, the rest of the time I banter with the girls, give them some dollars and feel that feminine energy while it is positive and fun.

Additionally I like paying for sex and to have the positive feminine energy near me, that is just me. The real world is a whole lot of dynamics that I don't have time or patience for. Yes, I do attract normal girls. There is a girl right now at work who wants me, I know because I have the experience reading women but I am not responding to her, for one she is a workmate, Second is I can't deal with the baggage civilian women, specially those in the US come with. Truth be told, I don't even know how to form a relationship with civilian women that leads to sex. What I know is what I know in the mongering world.

The 6% inflation you quoted is year over year, that is prices of this say July, compared to July last year. If HK think mongers will pay $150 for a 30 min session and $40 for rooms outrageous amount for drinks, then they have their work cut out for them. Look at Deja Vu who wanted $150 for the girls for years and no one sets foot there. The inflation in the US is the same with no salary increase to workers, so the assumption mongers will pay these prices is wrong.

You know as well as I do, girls have quota of fechas they have to sell, if they can't they buy them from their pockets. Hence, they do pay to work there and HK enforces the number of fechas they need to buy per day and and how much those fechas are, that is fixing prices by the club for everything including sex. I don't know what else direct price fixing do you want to see. Also because of the price changes they implemented, girls were shying away from HK or Tijuana altogether, to woo girls to come, HK are telling girls they can charge $150 standard. Heard it from multiple girls.

[Sol12]

The other thing that hasn't been brought up is how out of towners or inexperienced mongers also fuck up the pricing of the girls. There's this HK girl I've gotten to know pretty well in particular, just within the last couple weeks she told me about two incidents with clients. A friend of hers reached out to her for a threesome. She said she never quoted him anything since she trusted her friend who said he was a good client. He ended up giving her $200 for roughly 45 minutes, 30 of which they were just chatting. He offered her DOUBLE for BBFS but she declined. Or so she says, which I'll give her the benefit of the doubt since I havent caught her in a lie yet. Either way, that particular price offering is insane.

Another recent instance she told me about was this out of towner in his 50's who took her arriba. She never quoted him anything because he never asked and seemed like a decent guy. He ended up giving her $300 unprompted..

Guys have been coming to Tijuana and over spending for as long as I've been going. This is nothing new and the girls don't base prices off of a few whales. They all hope to get guys like this but they don't expect it every time they work. Girls bragging about what they make is what drives other girls to work in HK. Some coke and realize that it's not true or it's only for a few so they go back to different clubs or whatever they did before.

[Sol12]

I was checking the girls if they agree for $100 with no intention of taking them up. Already had 2 panochas and I had no milk left. With ease, for me at least all of them agreed for $100, as I wrote these are the hotter girls, with $80 very possible but did not try it, will try it next time. An amigo of mine screwed a girl all natural for mil pesos on Tuesday night from Tropical. Again takes some skill, you can't be pushy and have to push some of their emotional buttons. If you have seen a guy on the floor and have all this chicas bounce off him smiling ear to ear, that would be me. One girl planted her body on mine while I was standing and and the first thing she whispered in my ear was, tu tienes experiencia, she must have observed what I was doing. I guess I am bragging a bit, but it is delivered for those chodes who foolishly pay $150/30 for a star fish.

As for the 6% inflation in Tijuana, we have the same inflation here with no salary increases. Either way 6% inflation doesn't merit 50 to 100% price increase. HK are seeing their status as the only star club in the area, grabbed all the market and now feel in liberty to charge outrageous amount of fechas from the girls while at the same time telling them they can charge as much as $150 to $200 and that these stupid sex starved US Americans will pay it..

Which was my point that you don't "make" a girl do anything. Also seems to be strange to just going around asking girls about going up and not doing anything. As far as the girls jumping on you and being so happy with you why is it that you have to pay at all? I know plenty of guys that have banged these girls for free when they really like you or just want to hang out.

You might want to brush up on how inflation works, it has been going up year over year so 6% in one month on top of what it has already gone up. HK charges what it thinks people will pay. Trust me if they really wanted to charge more and screw over people they could. The girls make prices not HK.

I'm not sure what super power you think you have to know how each girl feels by looking at them but they don't pay the club to work there. If you have any proof of this we would all enjoy to see it.

[BabeLove]

Here's my version of the same type of grousing. I had already typed it up so I'm posting it.

Went a few times last week, sometime between 6:00 pm And 11:00 pm So I could catch the last trolley. Easy pat down and metal detector, never a cover charge or mandatory drink purchase. First time in each trip and it's like this is heaven man. So many beautiful women. But nowadays it's a bikini bar for the most part. Even on the main stages, many just go topless and the ones that do go nude don't proudly show you their pussy for a tip. (I didn't take notes or keep counts so I might be exaggerating.).

I did buy one girl a beer. She actually came up and said Hello,. When she asked to go upstairs I verified that the rooms are now $40. So I said no thanks. It would take a really hot nympho who was all over me for me to do that, which means never. And the hotel rooms are now 90+ so you would have to do at least three girls per day to make that pay versus $40 each time. I also worked out the VIP card and it wasn't helpful for me because I wouldn't be staying two Monday nights. Sorry, I don't remember the details on that.

Very few women do any hustling for drinks or more. I'm old so I understand about me but same for young guys too.

For me, HK is now about watching beautiful women and the shaving cream show where you can do some serious touching for a few dollars.

Ah for the good old days, long gone. (he sheds a tear).

[Zenduka1]

1) Highest inflation since the Jimmy Carter administration, which began after COVID.

2) USA Dollar trending weaker the past couple of years vs. Mexican peso (though dollar has rebounded nicely the past 4 months or so).

3) Basic supply and demand. As far as I know the prices had been pretty much constant since well before even the early 2010's when I started going to Tijuana until just a few years ago. They were bound to increase at some point. Americans and rich foreigners are generally more than willing to pay even more than the prices as they are currently so would expect them to go up even further at some point. Think some of it is more people finding out about HK / Zona Norte, some of it is the ever-incresing dominance of HK and its affiliated clubs in the Zona Norte market (I. E. , monopolies lead to higher prices). Capitalism at work. It is what it is. Agree that it's not quite what it used to be when I first started going but I'm only in Tijuana three times or so a year anyway. Still a great time for me, LOL.

Just like Spirit Airlines is now breaking the back of SW who now has become a main stream expensive airlines, if an airline makes it easy for Mongers from the west coast of the US to reach South American destinations, HK will be a toasted Bun in no time.

Lots of guys will be put off by these prices now quoted on the floor, 130,140, 150,160, 170,200, 250. Come on, you add room prices to all of these it becomes a joke. HK can become like Deja Vu someday where the regular monger never sets foot.

There is no question the mood of the girls is more intense these days, the normal exuberance we are used to is gone. The girls are stressed, tired and anxious. Bummer!

[BrotherMouzone]

2 years ago the maximum price used to be $100. And this was for the hottest girls in the club. The ones with the big Brazilian butt lift / fake butts, big round jiggly butt cheeks from their natural fat being injected into their butt. These girls would charge $100.

But if they are now charging $150, that is definitely a quick increase in rates. I have no idea why the price would increase that much in just 2 years. Seems very weird.

1) Highest inflation since the Jimmy Carter administration, which began after COVID.

2) USA Dollar trending weaker the past couple of years vs. Mexican peso (though dollar has rebounded nicely the past 4 months or so).

3) Basic supply and demand. As far as I know the prices had been pretty much constant since well before even the early 2010's when I started going to Tijuana until just a few years ago. They were bound to increase at some point. Americans and rich foreigners are generally more than willing to pay even more than the prices as they are currently so would expect them to go up even further at some point. Think some of it is more people finding out about HK / Zona Norte, some of it is the ever-incresing dominance of HK and its affiliated clubs in the Zona Norte market (I. E. , monopolies lead to higher prices). Capitalism at work. It is what it is. Agree that it's not quite what it used to be when I first started going but I'm only in Tijuana three times or so a year anyway. Still a great time for me, LOL.

[TerOnlyOnce]

Also US pussy prices have skyrocketed for both providers and regular girls. The best seeking deal I found was $300 ppm. The US pros are even more expensive. Guaranteed the mexican girls know the cost of US girls.

Seeking is not bad, I would say it depends on where you live.

For example, if you can get excellent service for $200-300 on seeking in your home town, then that would probably be better than traveling to HK and having to pay the girls there $100-150.

Factoring in the cost of flight and hotel basically increases your average rate to around $200-300 anyway. This is why it may be better to just pay a higher PPM to a girl on seeking.

In terms of where you would get better service. A girl from seeking or an HK girl. I would say that it seems it would vary widely.

In both cases though I do think you would have to grind through girls regardless. Meaning you would have to message a bunch of them, see which ones are receptive, let them know you can provide a good rate, etc. And on the HK side you would have to approach the girls, buy them drinks to talk to them, see which one is receiptive and willing to provide a good service, etc.

The same level of grinding. I wouldn't say one would be significantly smoother or easier to grind compared to the other.

[Guardman]

The other thing that hasn't been brought up is how out of towners or inexperienced mongers also fuck up the pricing of the girls. There's this HK girl I've gotten to know pretty well in particular, just within the last couple weeks she told me about two incidents with clients. A friend of hers reached out to her for a threesome. She said she never quoted him anything since she trusted her friend who said he was a good client. He ended up giving her $200 for roughly 45 minutes, 30 of which they were just chatting. He offered her DOUBLE for BBFS but she declined. Or so she says, which I'll give her the benefit of the doubt since I havent caught her in a lie yet. Either way, that particular price offering is insane.

Another recent instance she told me about was this out of towner in his 50's who took her arriba. She never quoted him anything because he never asked and seemed like a decent guy. He ended up giving her $300 unprompted.

A few months back another girl Ive known for a while from Chicago told me she had a client who flew in from new York who had never been to the zona so he basically knew nothing. He gave her $500. She admitted to giving him a BBBJ but no BBFS, which even if she did do BBFS, for that kind of money who could blame her.

So it's no wonder that aside from inflation, these girls think $150 isn't too bad for us living in the states when we have guys like that throwing money around.

Also US pussy prices have skyrocketed for both providers and regular girls. The best seeking deal I found was $300 ppm. The US pros are even more expensive. Guaranteed the mexican girls know the cost of US girls.

[Nothing24]

The other thing that hasn't been brought up is how out of towners or inexperienced mongers also fuck up the pricing of the girls. There's this HK girl I've gotten to know pretty well in particular, just within the last couple weeks she told me about two incidents with clients. A friend of hers reached out to her for a threesome. She said she never quoted him anything since she trusted her friend who said he was a good client. He ended up giving her $200 for roughly 45 minutes, 30 of which they were just chatting. He offered her DOUBLE for BBFS but she declined. Or so she says, which I'll give her the benefit of the doubt since I havent caught her in a lie yet. Either way, that particular price offering is insane.

Another recent instance she told me about was this out of towner in his 50's who took her arriba. She never quoted him anything because he never asked and seemed like a decent guy. He ended up giving her $300 unprompted.

A few months back another girl Ive known for a while from Chicago told me she had a client who flew in from new York who had never been to the zona so he basically knew nothing. He gave her $500. She admitted to giving him a BBBJ but no BBFS, which even if she did do BBFS, for that kind of money who could blame her.

So it's no wonder that aside from inflation, these girls think $150 isn't too bad for us living in the states when we have guys like that throwing money around.

[TerOnlyOnce]

I've had both absolutely terrible service for the $150-200 ladies and also amazing service. I will say that the vast majority of times it's garbage service of just smash and dash for 5-10 minutes. The girls won't smile, put any effort; they just are aggressive and make you climax as fast as possible so they can ditch you and leave. You feel used and have that WTF did I just spend $200 on that feeling.

If it were cheaper I wouldn't mind hte quick smash and dash. But when you're shelling out $50--100 on drinks, $150 for girl, $40 for hotel room, $20 ish in tips, $20 for parking, and uber fees all for a quick 5-10 minutes smash and dash from someone putting no effort, it's not really worth it unless you're absolutely desperate to get fucked.

Well said, I've experienced similar while I was there on my past few trips to the zona / HK. This was years ago, back in 2021 and 2022. So seems like the service is still garbage on average and hasn't improved.

I will say though that I did have a few sessions that were really really good, so that still happens. But those sessions were like 1 for every 5 or 6 sessions. So for the most part, I agree, the service will most likely be garbage.

With that being said, it seems like HK has gone to shit, or a better phrasing would be that it has remained shit compared to years ago. I'm leaning towards not making another trip now that I've heard this intel from you guys. Thanks for the heads up.

I wrote before you pay $500 and that won't change one ounce of what type of service you get. It really really really depends on you and her and whether you two can be in a good vibe together. That is it. Almost all women (or all persons with feminine trait) are emotional, they gauge their world via how they feel about a situation.

Usually when you pay a girl what she asks and take her up based on that, you are guaranteed you will get a nasty star fish. That is because it shows to her you are horny when you approached her. Guys that approach while horny pay higher and get bad service. Approach and contact her with a good vibe, qualify her, state your price and stay firm, if she agrees then usually the service will be better. Also pay after not before.

I do think there are mongering locations that exist in the world where you can show up, discuss what you would like, get the price quote from the girl, and then actually get a good quality service and leave happily.

HK just isn't that place though. Finding a place where you can consistently get good service is a gem. You shouldn't have to fight for it every time. Going to places like HK makes you believe that you need to fight to get good service when you are paying and are willing to pay.

It screws up your perception because the standard in HK is to deliver garbage service. That just means you're going to garbage mongering locations. Has nothing to do with the concept of wanting to consistently pay a woman to get good service out of her.

[Zenduka1]

I've had both absolutely terrible service for the $150-200 ladies and also amazing service. I will say that the vast majority of times it's garbage service of just smash and dash for 5-10 minutes. The girls won't smile, put any effort; they just are aggressive and make you climax as fast as possible so they can ditch you and leave. You feel used and have that WTF did I just spend $200 on that feeling.

If it were cheaper I wouldn't mind hte quick smash and dash. But when you're shelling out $50--100 on drinks, $150 for girl, $40 for hotel room, $20 ish in tips, $20 for parking, and uber fees all for a quick 5-10 minutes smash and dash from someone putting no effort, it's not really worth it unless you're absolutely desperate to get fucked.

I wrote before you pay $500 and that won't change one ounce of what type of service you get. It really really really depends on you and her and whether you two can be in a good vibe together. That is it. Almost all women (or all persons with feminine trait) are emotional, they gauge their world via how they feel about a situation.

Usually when you pay a girl what she asks and take her up based on that, you are guaranteed you will get a nasty star fish. That is because it shows to her you are horny when you approached her. Guys that approach while horny pay higher and get bad service. Approach and contact her with a good vibe, qualify her, state your price and stay firm, if she agrees then usually the service will be better. Also pay after not before.