Other Areas

[RainMania]

Is it up and running? I guess so since the site is updated since it says Balatero Pier (in Sabang / Puerto Galaera).

I took that a few times.

One problem is that it is leaves Ermita (at City State Tower Hotel) in the morning. So you can't really get there if you leave from Angeles. Also, that bus (several years before Covid) was uncomfortable. It seems they never changed the shocks.

But if you want to visit LA Cafe and go to Sabang/Puerto Galera, staying at City State Tower Hotel is good; it is walking distance from LA Cafe and the Ski Kata bus starts right in front of the hotel.

Yep. Up and running. Used it earlier this year.

It's fairly easy to get to the departure point from angeles. Hop on Genesis bus to NAIA from SM Clark (first bus is like 5 am and new bus ever hour after that), 90 min to 2 HR journey, then grab to Ermita. Total cost about 600 pesos. The sikat bus seemed fine to me.

[GreenBud]

The most efficient and cost effective way to get to PG is via SiKat bus and ferry service. One way 1500 pesos inclusive of bus and ferry fee.

https://www.sikatferrybus.com/

Is it up and running? I guess so since the site is updated since it says Balatero Pier (in Sabang / Puerto Galaera).

I took that a few times.

One problem is that it is leaves Ermita (at City State Tower Hotel) in the morning. So you can't really get there if you leave from Angeles. Also, that bus (several years before Covid) was uncomfortable. It seems they never changed the shocks.

But if you want to visit LA Cafe (sketchy area) and go to Sabang/Puerto Galera, staying at City State Tower Hotel is good; it is walking distance from LA Cafe and the Ski Kat bus starts right in front of the hotel.

[GreenBud]

You got it wrong, boracay has only few pros, and lots of civilians, not the other way around.

OK. I agree with the above write-up from my experience during my 1 trip in 2022.

Along the beach boardwalk in Station 2, there is one club (outdoors; in front of the boardwalk; can't remember the name; you can't miss it around 8 or 9 pm) where there are a lot of tourist, free live music, and FLs along the boardwalk. It seems none of the FLs are in the club. I couldn't find any other areas; but I didn't look since I BYOG.

Are there anywhere else? It seems none has been reported on this board.

IMO, the only thing "good" about Borocay is the beach. There isn't much else.

[RainMania]

So I came across this grab taxi fare calculator: https://www.taxifarefinder.com/main....la-Philippines.

It seems to think that getting a taxi from Subic to the Batangas Ferry Terminal is under 3 k PHP and takes something like 4. 5 hours.

Can this be accurate? The route seems to take the Manila Skyway so traffic reporting may actually be effectively predicting the travel time.

The most efficient and cost effective way to get to PG is via SiKat bus and ferry service. One way 1500 pesos inclusive of bus and ferry fee.

https://www.sikatferrybus.com/

I used to take Air Juan regularly till they decided to fuck their business up by taking payments from passengers online but then selling the same seats to Chinese passengers who turned up on the day for a higher price, and of course in true Filipino way the refund got lost somewhere in the ether. A potentially revolutionary service destroyed by greed and ineptitude. Covid hit them hard but the customer base they betrayed hit them even harder by not coming back once the country reopened.

Air Trav seems to be more of a corporate card (or private charter) service. I can't think of anyone who would be dumb enough to pay 10's of thousands of pesos (think 50 k+) on a one leg flight from Manila to PG out of pocket. As of now there's no reliably scheduled seaplane service I know of in PH that had the quality, scope and range that Air Juan had from 2017-2019.

[WestCoast1]

Taking a domestic flight means I can hit the domestic terminal outside NAIA also if I'm not mistaken, and therefore I could avoid that hellhole altogether. If I can not set foot in NAIA this trip, I think I'll be much better off.

I might have misunderstood this. All four terminals are located on the same grounds. They are far enough apart that you must go outside and take a taxi or a shuttle bus from one terminal to the other. If you land in Manila, you are landing here (pic, approximate terminal locations).

P.S. I really like this mercenary 500 p / nut strategy, Phil. Talk about getting a LBFM horny for your nut. I find the idea of explaining to a girl on the beach that if she can make me CIM or CIP 5 times that she can get 4 k particularly funny, like asking your cat to solve the square root of something LOL! I can just see a girl in a bikini with her sunglasses on whipping out her phone to use the calculator app. XD.

Have used similar strategies. Depending on location, you could start with a base pay of p500-1000, plus p500 for each pop. In the big city that might be p2000 (or more) + p500/ pop. Or similar. For example, she wants 3000 for ST, and you'd like to get at least 2 pops in for that much. You might tell her p2000 + 500 per pop. You might get lucky and find her trying to wring 3 pops out of you. The next day the hotel maid finds you crumpled on the CR floor, dead, a dried-out husk of the man you used to be. IF you were lucky.

[Old And Ugly]

I had been pondering the amount of travel time lost as I could be potentially spending it with hotties. Taking a domestic flight means I can hit the domestic terminal outside NAIA also if I'm not mistaken, and therefore I could avoid that hellhole altogether. If I can not set foot in NAIA this trip, I think I'll be much better off. Plus this means I won't have to frantically be looking for buses or vans to try to get from Puerto Galera to Roxas or Bulalacao in time to catch an afternoon ferry.

So my question then is this. Is Boracay worth it? My modus operandi has always been to look for "nice" girls (*cough* as if there was such a thing as a nice Pinay LOL!) to fuck for free and then maybe use professionals as a backup. I've literally never barfined a girl before in any country, and I usually do well enough. My understanding is that Boracay is more densely populated with pros than civilians when it comes to Pinays, but there are a good mess of tourists I could try my luck with.

P.S. I really like this mercenary 500 p / nut strategy, Phil. Talk about getting a LBFM horny for your nut. I find the idea of explaining to a girl on the beach that if she can make me CIM or CIP 5 times that she can get 4 k particularly funny, like asking your cat to solve the square root of something LOL! I can just see a girl in a bikini with her sunglasses on whipping out her phone to use the calculator app. XD.

You got it wrong, boracay has only few pros, and lots of civilians, not the other way around. In the nearby past, there were no pros at all, only ladyboys. Last year I've been there 3 times, and I didn't see any pros hanging around anywhere.

[KenjiYoshioka]

Hey Kenji _ Basically anything you search for online regarding bus schedules is outdated or unpredictable.

All you have to do is get yourself to a terminal where they depart from and go from there. They'll be cheap and get your arse / ass on the right bus by asking the locals or the driver and conductor waiting there to depart.

As for Boracay, you're better off flying from Manila. Cebu Pacific always has cheap options and you won't be losing heaps of time on the water.

Once there, you'll find quite a lot of sexy freelancers hanging around the beach at Station 2 near the nightclubs.

I generally offer them 1500 p to stay the night with me and a bonus of 500 p a shot.

They can take it or leave it and one will always accept the offer.

Additionally, you're setting the price and not them.

It's always a good opportunity to add one to your contact list so you've got one lined up for your next visit.

Just my experience _ Phil.

I had been pondering the amount of travel time lost as I could be potentially spending it with hotties. Taking a domestic flight means I can hit the domestic terminal outside NAIA also if I'm not mistaken, and therefore I could avoid that hellhole altogether. If I can not set foot in NAIA this trip, I think I'll be much better off. Plus this means I won't have to frantically be looking for buses or vans to try to get from Puerto Galera to Roxas or Bulalacao in time to catch an afternoon ferry.

So my question then is this. Is Boracay worth it? My modus operandi has always been to look for "nice" girls (*cough* as if there was such a thing as a nice Pinay LOL!) to fuck for free and then maybe use professionals as a backup. I've literally never barfined a girl before in any country, and I usually do well enough. My understanding is that Boracay is more densely populated with pros than civilians when it comes to Pinays, but there are a good mess of tourists I could try my luck with.

P.S. I really like this mercenary 500 p / nut strategy, Phil. Talk about getting a LBFM horny for your nut. I find the idea of explaining to a girl on the beach that if she can make me CIM or CIP 5 times that she can get 4 k particularly funny, like asking your cat to solve the square root of something LOL! I can just see a girl in a bikini with her sunglasses on whipping out her phone to use the calculator app. XD.

[PhilJoy]

I could catch the ferry to Caticlan and go to Boracay next. There are several Roro Bus terminals on Mindoro, but I keep running into the same issue about finding a bus schedule. Thus, I have no idea if there's even a bus that goes there.

Hey Kenji _ Basically anything you search for online regarding bus schedules is outdated or unpredictable.

All you have to do is get yourself to a terminal where they depart from and go from there. They'll be cheap and get your arse / ass on the right bus by asking the locals or the driver and conductor waiting there to depart.

As for Boracay, you're better off flying from Manila. Cebu Pacific always has cheap options and you won't be losing heaps of time on the water.

Once there, you'll find quite a lot of sexy freelancers hanging around the beach at Station 2 near the nightclubs.

I generally offer them 1500 p to stay the night with me and a bonus of 500 p a shot.

They can take it or leave it and one will always accept the offer.

Additionally, you're setting the price and not them.

It's always a good opportunity to add one to your contact list so you've got one lined up for your next visit.

Just my experience _ Phil.

[Mua Tur]

Travel time is accurate.

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7) take a trike or grab early in the morning to Dau bus station.
8) get on the bus to Cubao bus station.
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There are an alternate route for interested one. From Dau to Taft ave MRT station, manila, by Genesis Bus liner. A little ride to Buendia LRT station. Hop in Jam Liner for Batangas. Jam Liner is the cheapest ride for Batangas.

[KenjiYoshioka]

Travel time is accurate.

Price will be impossible to get (even if you pay the tolls).

Angeles hotel taxis will charge you around 3900 (tollways included) from the airport to Angeles. Maybe you can negotiate a slightly lower price with a normal taxi. But you still have to account for the Subic to Angeles / San Fernando and the Manila to Batangas portions. And most taxis will need to account for the return trip.

I hope I'm wrong and you can get those prices.

For an inexpensive vacation after you land in Clark, do the following:

1) spend a night or 2 in Angeles.
2) take a trike or Grab to Dau bus station.
3) take the bus to Olongapo. From around there you can take that large jeepney bus or trike to the Bario Baretto bar area.
4) party on.
5) take jeepney bus or trike to Olongapo bus station. Get bus to Dau.
6) spend a night in Angeles.
7) take a trike or grab early in the morning to Dau bus station.
8) get on the bus to Cubao bus station.
9) get off and take the bus to Bantagas pier.
10) get ticket to Puerto Galera (the new pier); you can't go to Sabang no more.
11) get a trike to Sabang. Previously in front, they ask for 250. Walk halfway up the street and get it for 200.
12) party and have fun.
13) get trike (was 250; you can't negotiate with the trike mafia) and ferry back to Bantagas.
14) after leaving the ferry, take the bus to Cubao. The buses should be just to the left after you leave the terminal.
15) get off and hop on a bus to Dau.

In Bantagas and Cubao, you just get onto the correct bus, and you pay the conductor in the bus. Ask the staff at the bus stations. They have always been very helpful. Plus there's a sign on the windshield stating where they are going to.

You can skip the second leg of staying in Angeles if you leave really early from Olongapo. Maybe go to San Fernando, but I haven't done that.

The more I try to plan the more I think an itinerary more along these lines is smarter. Angeles City isn't at the top of my list, but spending a couple nights there should be pretty fun. Also, not rushing and accounting for the terrible traffic is the only successful strategy for navigating a country like the Philippines. Like sitting in Bangkok rush hour. Thankfully at least they have trains that aren't subject to traffic.

OldAndUgly. You are correct. Fortunately, I'm comfortable navigating bus stations. This should be fine. Plus I'll get a couple more days in AC to fuck around.

So I had a fun an interesting thought about what to do after Sabang. If I can take a bus from Puerto Galera to Roxas or Bulalacao, I could catch the ferry to Caticlan and go to Boracay next. There are several Roro Bus terminals on Mindoro, but I keep running into the same issue about finding a bus schedule. Thus, I have no idea if there's even a bus that goes there. I guess I could just take the ferry back to Batangas and then take a ferry to Caticlan Boracay if that doesn't seem feasible. Or take the ferry back to Batangas and then catch a flight from Manila to Caticlan.

[Old And Ugly]

So I came across this grab taxi fare calculator: https://www.taxifarefinder.com/main....la-Philippines.

It seems to think that getting a taxi from Subic to the Batangas Ferry Terminal is under 3 k PHP and takes something like 4. 5 hours.

Can this be accurate? The route seems to take the Manila Skyway so traffic reporting may actually be effectively predicting the travel time.

Greenbud is right, 3 K is way too low, I would say if you take a taxi all the way, it will cost you around 10 k or more because the taxi will have to take the trip back empty. There is almost no travel time difference between the taxi and the bus on direct routes, they both go as fast as possible, and I think the bus is safer in case of an accident. If you're not comfortable doing the bus exchange in manila where is kind of a wild jungle, then do only angeles to batangas by taxi, or the hotel shuttle. And never plan your trip schedule too tight, in philippines nothing works according to the plan. Stay a night in angeles before going to batangas, so you can leave early in the morning because is not good to arrive late in batangas, there may be no more ferries for the day.

[GreenBud]

So I came across this grab taxi fare calculator: https://www.taxifarefinder.com/main....la-Philippines.

It seems to think that getting a taxi from Subic to the Batangas Ferry Terminal is under 3 k PHP and takes something like 4. 5 hours.

Can this be accurate? The route seems to take the Manila Skyway so traffic reporting may actually be effectively predicting the travel time.

Travel time is accurate.

Price will be impossible to get (even if you pay the tolls).

Angeles hotel taxis will charge you around 3900 (tollways included) from the airport to Angeles. Maybe you can negotiate a slightly lower price with a normal taxi. But you still have to account for the Subic to Angeles / San Fernando and the Manila to Batangas portions. And most taxis will need to account for the return trip.

I hope I'm wrong and you can get those prices.

For an inexpensive vacation after you land in Clark, do the following:

1) spend a night or 2 in Angeles.
2) take a trike or Grab to Dau bus station.
3) take the bus to Olongapo. From around there you can take that large jeepney bus or trike to the Bario Baretto bar area.
4) party on.
5) take jeepney bus or trike to Olongapo bus station. Get bus to Dau.
6) spend a night in Angeles.
7) take a trike or grab early in the morning to Dau bus station.
8) get on the bus to Cubao bus station.
9) get off and take the bus to Bantagas pier.
10) get ticket to Puerto Galera (the new pier); you can't go to Sabang no more.
11) get a trike to Sabang. Previously in front, they ask for 250. Walk halfway up the street and get it for 200.
12) party and have fun.
13) get trike (was 250; you can't negotiate with the trike mafia) and ferry back to Bantagas.
14) after leaving the ferry, take the bus to Cubao. The buses should be just to the left after you leave the terminal.
15) get off and hop on a bus to Dau.

In Bantagas and Cubao, you just get onto the correct bus, and you pay the conductor in the bus. Ask the staff at the bus stations. They have always been very helpful. Plus there's a sign on the windshield stating where they are going to.

You can skip the second leg of staying in Angeles if you leave really early from Olongapo. Maybe go to San Fernando, but I haven't done that.

[PhilJoy]

" Mom needed rice".

Great report G and thanks for the other areas info.

Over the years I've also found it a very strategic game with the girls.

I've got one at the moment that's hammering me for money, yet she was probably one of the worst performers I've had.

On the other hand, there's another I'm seeing in November for two weeks, and the deal is, I'll pay her food and 500 p per shot which she's perfectly fine with. I do know her and she's not an online pick up.

The chase can be an interesting challenge at times, but well worth it, if not for the knowledge _ Phil.

[Goferring]

After the Surigao threesome it was time to move on. Siargao lsland was a wash out due to wind cancelling the ferries. The mainland weather was turning worse by the day so I decided to head south. I wanted to go direct to Butuan and then to CDO but was correctly told that the eastern coast via Tandag was very scenic. I stayed just south of Tandag for two nights. Lovely place and on the beach but middle of nowhere and no girls to be seen.

From there it was the bus to Butuan. One thing I didn't realise was that the route took us past about a 1000 little schools, colleges and universities so there was just a constant stream of beautiful girls getting on and off. Forget watching a bored single mum strut around a chrome pole. For eye candy, this definitely took 1st prize.

The first day in Butuan was a non event. Alicia Guest House is new, clean and functional. Plenty of girls online and organised one to come over after work. Unfortunately at 10:30 pm we started the prepayment games so I just left it at that.

The next morning, I latched on to a gorgeous girl: tall, lean with massive jugs. 1500 per day for as long as I wanted. She even mentioned weeks which was a tad excessive.

She was an hour away in Cabadbaran. Of course, she didn't have busfare so asked for transport money. I GCashed 1000 p to her for the 200 p bus each way. The split second the transaction goes through, immediate radio silence and everything stays unread. Shit, I'm such an idiot. 'You there? Silence. Money gone, I latched onto another closer to home and she's on the way. Sure enough, another message 'sorry I was in the shower. I'm coming'. Cabadbaran girl is way more attractive than the local girl but I can't stop the moving train. Tell her that I thought she had cancelled and I'm going to see friends. Let's delay arrival to after lunch. She's ok with that. Crisis avoided.

Butuan girl arrives and she's a 3/10 drop vs the pics. Initial deal was 1500 for two shots at my leisure. However, getting old sucks and I don't want to waste a shot that could be put to better use after lunch. To be fair, she did put the effort in. One shot and I beg off tired. Give her the full 1500 because I'm a nice guy and wait for the bus to arrive. 3 pm, no arrival. 5 pm, no arrival. I message Cabadbaran but radio silence again. Looks like I've been taken. Idiot!! That evening, the Butuan girl is happy to return for fun and games including breakfast.

Mid morning I get a Ping and it's Cabadbaran. 'I'm at the station, sorry I missed yesterday, I had a fever". Sound like things are looking good. "I'm hungry can you send just 300 for breakfast". I sent you 1000 yesterday. " Mom needed rice". Clearly an attempt at milking more money, I ignored it and hit the apps again. It wasn't hard to find a replacement and she dropped around for a relaxed session.

[Old And Ugly]

At OldAndUgly. Actually, I am starting in Angeles heh. :3 I'm planning on flying into Clark and maybe just staying the night before heading out to Subic and hanging out there for some time. I enjoy the prospect of doing some diving in between banging girls (the important part) LOL! So this is the real trouble I'm having with trying to plan this out. I've tried to look up some schedules and bookings on the Victory Liner and Philtranco websites to get from Angeles City (either Clark or Dau) to Subic / Olongapo; and every search regardless of day comes up with zero. Are the buses currently not running because of the off season or something?

Everything is kind of "fluid" in the ph, if you want to use the buses, first you have to find out from what terminal they are leaving in the direction that you want to travel, then just go there and ask from what bay the bus leaves then ask the driver or his helper for the schedule, don't trust websites or posted schedules, may be outdated. You may have to waste one hour doing this, but is better to do it in advance, without luggage instead of running around aimlessly carrying suitcases, and finding out that there is no bus. At first glance everything appears to be chaotic in the terminal, and the answers that you're going to get will make you wander if they know what they are talking about, or if they pay attention to you. Better be there earlier when you're leaving because you may end up with no seat, traveling standing in between the rows.

Also it is possible that the genesis bus coming from naia with a stop at the sm mall in ac, goes further to subic, I'm not sure, and I never asked, but it goes somewhere because some passengers remain on board.