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  1. #13908
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for your contribution. Personally, I don't endorse picking up streetwalkers or some other things. But if guys want info on how to do it, I give info to increase their success rate. I know some people who went to Okubo park and had success, they actually did it. Please don't take youtube and news articles as fully accurate, they are just click farms making a few obviously false claims mixed in with truth. Screencap of one example as proof.

    I'm tired of calling them out but for example attached is a youtube screencap made of a video talking about homeless teenagers. Half the footage is of girls holding up signs for girl's bars. So some user asks about these girls holding up signs being prostitutes. Look, we have two eyes see for yourself. If you know 1st year Japanese you can just READ the sign saying 'girls bar'. Or, if you know even a litte English, look at the sign on the ground to the right also saying 'Bar'. This is the lazy crap youtubers put online. Don't believe them. And that is how most Westerners get their info on Japan. A universal principle is to rely on first hand knowledge.

    I've passed by the runaway girls many times, they are in always a different section than Okubo park. People in Japan have a certain common sense, even runaways, they stick their own group. Anyone who confuses the two obviously has never seen this with their own two eyes. Furthermore, all the tachinbo's I've seen are obviously adults. A few are even foreigners, and those were the ones my friend were most happy with. BBFS and CIP doesn't have anything to do with Okubo park. I've probably seen the same article you're thinking of. It's written by someone who doesn't even have a penis. Here is my post 6 weeks ago commenting on a similar article:
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2952234

    Just to be crystal clear, the Okubo Park article was written by Karin Kaneko, a woman with no penis. She writes about a different topic every week, how much time do you think she spent banging women? Please realize this.

    Your comment about FC2 is wrong but I understand why some people may think it. Original FC2 content is normally non-JAV stars. But FC2 is a marketplace not unlike Pornhub where anyone can upload stuff. If you see a censored video on FC2, it is just some random user pirating a JAV and selling it to anyone lazy or dumb. See it all the time. You or I could do it if we made an account and verified. I know a lot about FC2, you can find very detailed guides on them written by me.

    To everyone, unfortunately we can't believe everything we read. There is a lot of clickbait content targeting the West. There are excellent and accurate resources online, I follow about 5 blogs by guys who live in Japan and monger all the time. And if I get my info on Japan from youtube, it's from Japanese people who do it every day. For those who missed it, this Youtube is a very good interview with a DH girl:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyn-qEYUn68 Interview.
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7003765 Youtube is a clickbait farm.



    At soapland I always get bbbj but that's just my experience since it's quite sanitary. You would not expect it at a "3 in a row" blowjob bar by contrast. Bbfs is not the norm but people do get it. It is up to the girl. I know certain girls who will give it to regulars only, so it is not just a yes or no rule. It's called YMMV.

    So to conclude, remember the Youtube attachment I've included below. Anyone who can read English or Japanese on a sign can see it's false. Here's the silliest thing. You or I can just walk up to these women with signs and talk to them. Imagine that, you instantly know more than anyone who writes these articles. I already did it 20 years ago, it was a girls bar. You can find a short summary below 'Fun in Tokyo Region' section:
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2946666
    I should have been more thorough. I typed that up last night. I'm sorry.

    The point I was trying to make was that Okubo Park is so well known, it's to the point where people who don't like what happens there are becoming more active. I'm just warning people to be careful.

    Everyone already knows the girls holding the sign at Toyoko are just advertising their themed bars.

    What I mean by media coverage are people who both like and don't like what happens there, both locally and internationally, whether its sensational or not. If you watch the news, NHK talks about crime in the area, some of which involves tochinbo pretty often. Yahoo news, gendai media etc. Also covers it.

    Just a few months ago, "influencers" gathered together and formed a group called "The Street Guardians of Salvation".

    They expose people who partake in the activity by going covert and conducting sting operations. They also randomly walk around holding a sign that says prostitution is bad. At Junshiurita on twitter is one of them.

    Also on YouTube, there's people like "Tokyo Night Walk" who's a guy who livestreams himself walking the area and sometimes harasses the girls and there's "Yukinyan" who is someone that makes fun videos about life in the area.

    Yukinyan used to interview girls and guys, but after losing her old youtube channel, she just makes shorts now. Those interviews got way too real for youtube.

    I remember one did involve an underage girl who was making 100 k yen a day, but didn't get into detail about how she earned it other than dating ojisans.

    People who don't browse the Japanese side of social media don't know about stuff like that.

    Not all tochinbo are runaway toyoko girls, but some are. That's how they can afford living the lifestyle they live. (Jirai fashion, host / men's concept clubs etc.).

    Tochinbo are more willing to do BBFS cip vs agencies because BBFS cip is illegal. The agencies abide by the law. They are legitimate, tax paying businesses. Tochinbo aren't. That's why I said if you're looking to do that, you'll find more luck with them. I didn't mean to link that with Okubo Park.

    I thought FC2 was just amateur content in general? Does underground AV count as amateur? Maybe I'm wrong. I'll read your post about it.

    Some of what I said was speaking from experience as well because I live in Japan and some of the people I meet regularly are in the area.

  2. #13907
    Quote Originally Posted by Gene0  [View Original Post]
    I know this post is a little old, but I'm responding as more of a PSA to people who want to pick up a tachinbo at Okubo Park.

    If you want to pick up a tochinbo, I don't recommend going there to do it. Youtubers, journalists, activists and plain clothed police officers are out there regularly now due to it being a well known area. The videos and articles you've seen really put the spotlight there. Also, some of those girls are runaways and / or underage. If caught, your situation will be 100 x worse if it turns out she's underage whether you knew it or not. If she looks too young, ask for her ID. It's better to be safe than sorry. It's the difference between a slap on the wrist or going to jail and getting your passport blacklisted.

    Honestly, the only benefit of picking up a tachinbo is if she's ok with it, for 30-50 k depending on the girl, they'll let you go all the way. BBFS CIP and everything. If that's not what you want to do, it's better to go with the agencies you see on other posts here.
    Thanks for your contribution. Personally, I don't endorse picking up streetwalkers or some other things. But if guys want info on how to do it, I give info to increase their success rate. I know some people who went to Okubo park and had success, they actually did it. Please don't take youtube and news articles as fully accurate, they are just click farms making a few obviously false claims mixed in with truth. Screencap of one example as proof.

    I'm tired of calling them out but for example attached is a youtube screencap made of a video talking about homeless teenagers. Half the footage is of girls holding up signs for girl's bars. So some user asks about these girls holding up signs being prostitutes. Look, we have two eyes see for yourself. If you know 1st year Japanese you can just READ the sign saying 'girls bar'. Or, if you know even a litte English, look at the sign on the ground to the right also saying 'Bar'. This is the lazy crap youtubers put online. Don't believe them. And that is how most Westerners get their info on Japan. A universal principle is to rely on first hand knowledge.

    I've passed by the runaway girls many times, they are in always a different section than Okubo park. People in Japan have a certain common sense, even runaways, they stick their own group. Anyone who confuses the two obviously has never seen this with their own two eyes. Furthermore, all the tachinbo's I've seen are obviously adults. A few are even foreigners, and those were the ones my friend were most happy with. BBFS and CIP doesn't have anything to do with Okubo park. I've probably seen the same article you're thinking of. It's written by someone who doesn't even have a penis. Here is my post 6 weeks ago commenting on a similar article:
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2952234

    Just to be crystal clear, the Okubo Park article was written by Karin Kaneko, a woman with no penis. She writes about a different topic every week, how much time do you think she spent banging women? Please realize this.

    Your comment about FC2 is wrong but I understand why some people may think it. Original FC2 content is normally non-JAV stars. But FC2 is a marketplace not unlike Pornhub where anyone can upload stuff. If you see a censored video on FC2, it is just some random user pirating a JAV and selling it to anyone lazy or dumb. See it all the time. You or I could do it if we made an account and verified. I know a lot about FC2, you can find very detailed guides on them written by me.

    To everyone, unfortunately we can't believe everything we read. There is a lot of clickbait content targeting the West. There are excellent and accurate resources online, I follow about 5 blogs by guys who live in Japan and monger all the time. And if I get my info on Japan from youtube, it's from Japanese people who do it every day. For those who missed it, this Youtube is a very good interview with a DH girl:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyn-qEYUn68 Interview.
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7003765 Youtube is a clickbait farm.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWick6969  [View Original Post]
    Are BBBJ and BBFS the norm in soaplands?
    At soapland I always get bbbj but that's just my experience since it's quite sanitary. You would not expect it at a "3 in a row" blowjob bar by contrast. Bbfs is not the norm but people do get it. It is up to the girl. I know certain girls who will give it to regulars only, so it is not just a yes or no rule. It's called YMMV.

    So to conclude, remember the Youtube attachment I've included below. Anyone who can read English or Japanese on a sign can see it's false. Here's the silliest thing. You or I can just walk up to these women with signs and talk to them. Imagine that, you instantly know more than anyone who writes these articles. I already did it 20 years ago, it was a girls bar. You can find a short summary below 'Fun in Tokyo Region' section:
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2946666
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  3. #13906
    Quote Originally Posted by CCRider1008  [View Original Post]
    Okay I'm a senior member and know enough to read the threads before asking questions. I admit Japan is a little more confusing then the rest of SE Asia Think I have basics.

    Understand the soaplands. Also understand foreigner bias and sticking to foreigner friendly venues. Which really means for me some soaplands, some delivery, and street girls -- aka tachinbo.

    Couple questions:

    1. Are most hotels in Shinjuko near Kabuchicho girl friendly if register for two people? What hotels in this area are recommended? JP gave me his on recent trip (granbell) but its booked. Needs to be a decent nice hotel; not a love hotel shithole.

    2. From looking at videos of tachinbo (I'm assuming they're in Kabuchicho in videos), some of these girls seem pretty hot. I can see myself partaking. My questions:

    A. Many seem to have men standing nearby. Look like middlemen. Is that the norm for street hookers? Are these guys okay to deal with? I doubt I'd have a lot of tolerance dealing with them. What's procedure for negotiation?

    Be. Is it like Brazil where you have to be very specific about services upfront, or Thailand where you just agree price, bring them to hotel and they're pretty much up for anything (maybe with a little more cash)?

    3. Delivery Services. I'm still a little confused about "foreigner and English friendly". From reading forum I know TokyoHentai is a +. What others in Tokyo are recommended as far as ease making appt in english or on web, and foreigner friendly girls with decent selection?
    I know this post is a little old, but I'm responding as more of a PSA to people who want to pick up a tachinbo at Okubo Park.

    If you want to pick up a tochinbo, I don't recommend going there to do it. Youtubers, journalists, activists and plain clothed police officers are out there regularly now due to it being a well known area. The videos and articles you've seen really put the spotlight there. Also, some of those girls are runaways and / or underage. If caught, your situation will be 100 x worse if it turns out she's underage whether you knew it or not. If she looks too young, ask for her ID. It's better to be safe than sorry. It's the difference between a slap on the wrist or going to jail and getting your passport blacklisted.

    Syphilis and HepA are also big problems.

    The guys who hang out with them are usually just friends and clients who have nothing better to do.

    They want to know what you want to do before they come with you. It can be a little difficult if you don't know the lingo, but nothing google translate can't handle. As for hotels, it's honestly best to go to a nearby love hotel. On weekdays, you can book 1. 5 hrs for less than 5 k yen. Lapia is a good place. They also provide complimentary popcorn, soft drinks and 1 free cosplay rental if you're into that.

    You'll notice that they're always on their phones. That's because they network with each other and they advertise on twitter. (Safest place to book a girl).

    They also hangout near train stations and at random spots in Kabukicho. Don't mistake them for the older Chinese ladies who randomly walk up to you asking for a "massage".

    You can book underground AV models on Twitter too. The "FC2-PPV" porn videos are basically guys who do that and record their encounters.

    The experience can also be a hit or miss because some of them are all business with no emotion. You can get GFE, but you're not guaranteed it or they charge extra.

    Honestly, the only benefit of picking up a tachinbo is if she's ok with it, for 30-50 k depending on the girl, they'll let you go all the way. BBFS CIP and everything. If that's not what you want to do, it's better to go with the agencies you see on other posts here.

    TLDR.

    Okubo park is starting to become risky due to mass reporting of the area and STDs. Watch out for underage runaways. Tachinbo are only worth it if you want (and they offer) BBFS CIP. Otherwise, go with an agency.

  4. #13905
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]

    Long ago I've been offered FS for $70-$100 in Japan at a corg but the girls weren't to my liking. I believe the right word is ugly, but that's just my experience I visited 10 different corg shops and 9 sucked. So it's not just 'luck' in my opinion. What do I mean by 'just a FS' place? There also used to be glass houses in Yokohama like Amsterdam where you coould pick Chinese girls to bang for $70, I did that many times long ago. But it no longer exists. Girls give you 15 minutes so yes it's cheaper if you ONLY want to bang, but soapland is actually way better for 70 minutes of reverent worship. Plus the glass houses were demolished long ago. Today in the year 2024 what you should do is to pick soapland or delivery health, and it's going to be $200 or more. Each one has its advantage, my other posts compare them..
    Are BBBJ and BBFS the norm in soaplands?

  5. #13904
    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock  [View Original Post]
    If you're cheap, Tokyo probably isn't the place for you.

    But if you'd RTFF you'd learn that Bunny Girls in Tokyo is 20,000 Yen for 70 minutes and GFE soapland in Kawasaki has a 20,000 Yen option too. Comes out to about $130 for FS.
    Wonderful. And remember how cheap and fast trains are in major cities. It's easy to go from Tokyo to Kawasaki. If you've been sightseeing for hours, you need to rest your legs anyways. So sitting on a train looking out the window or on your phone isn't a waste but a necessary transition. Just looked it up, it is 20 minutes from Shibuya to Kawasaki at 240 yen. That's $1.57. I had to double check because I couldn't believe this other site that said $1-$2:

    https://www.rome2rio.com/s/Shibuya/K...YaAgQ-EALw_wcB

    I love breakfast in Japan too. Fantastic breakfast for $3-$6. Would be $20 for that in the USA now, exact same order but lower quality food even. Things get much cheaper once you leave Tokyo. Once, I ate a bunch of sushi. It was $16. In the USA it would have been $60 and not as good. This was a particularly good value shop, certainly there are more expensive sushi places in Japan and they're not all as good as the $16 one. But, they're all better than 95% of USA sushi.

    This goes to the point that when in Japan, choose their specialty. You can't get soapland this good elsewhere, there are imitations including in Thailand. Kgirls offer nuru in the US. At best it's half of it. When I go to Japan, I'm looking for Japan's specialties. I was once put in a room with three kidnapped schoolgirls all blindfolded with hands tied*. I could harass them for 5 minutes before picking one to play with upstairs. This all happened suddenly as the staff left me and closed the curtains for the darkened room. I was in shock. But this was my Japan adventure and I resolved to do things the Japanese way. I told one girl "I'll pick you anyways so let's go upstairs early" She told me "Dame, 5 minutes". Rules are rules in Japan.

    *Not actual schoolgirls, just petite girls in uniform. I saw cartoon ads depicting the whole kidnap room, I thought it was just dramatized to show the theme but had no idea it was really going to happen. All girls 20 and over. Barely. They know how to pick them. This not actual school was the first girl to P2P me (sumatra), it took 20 years for a kgirl to outdo her (Kendal / Shelby). Shelby is in OC starting yesterday.

    See this for a list of foreigner friendly shops, though a little Japanese will help a lot. Keeping in mind that 'foreigner only' delivery health is perhaps the most newbie friendly:
    https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/shop-list/
    https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1303/toranoana/ Famous shop for having JAV actresses, but you can't book the top tier girls until you are a good repeat customer.
    https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/...rful-yoshiwar/ Fashionable schoolgirls
    https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1311/puzzle/ Completely inexperienced girls
    https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1317/videogirl/ Filming okay, Chinese English and Korean okay
    https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1317/kiwami_g/ Instant blowjob "no wiping or washing" WTF

    By the way, Japan gives no fucks about PC. It's just common sense that most guys want to play with the youngest possible legally aged women possible. They are upfront about it. That's why you see ridiculous "Teen to 20" banners imply 18-20 when we all know it's more like 20-35. Though at a few shops like Gingira it's legit 19-25. My favorite girl started that shop at 19. Once you step out of Japan please regain your Western common sense though.

    Please don't be offended when I say I hate helping lazy people. I love helping others help themselves, so I only point the way. I've already done more than half the research, you have to do the rest.

    PS there is one ad photo I decided not to include, I made a meme instead in its place.
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  6. #13903
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWick6969  [View Original Post]
    So 200 $ is cheap in Tokyo for FS? Any chances to find something cheaper outside Tokyo?
    If you're cheap, Tokyo probably isn't the place for you.

    But if you'd RTFF you'd learn that Bunny Girls in Tokyo is 20,000 Yen for 70 minutes and GFE soapland in Kawasaki has a 20,000 Yen option too. Comes out to about $130 for FS.

  7. #13902
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]
    I know Gingira because of a girl but meet her direct rather than the shop. However because of that and seeing her ad photos and shop updates among other things, I know they are legit. She is 22 for example, quite good looking. I will in the future try their shop for other girls, assuming the girl I'm seeing isn't going to monopolize me (I doubt she will).

    If your hotel doesn't support it, you need to book your girl and say the love hotel, then go to the love hotel, check in, and call them to tell them your room number.

    If you like it, you can level up for more luxurious options in Tokyo whether soapland or delivery health. Attached is a nicer soapland room. You tend to get what you
    Sorry, but can you clarify if Gingira has an actual shop, and where it is? I'm not sure if this place is phone only.

    I do know of some love hotels around the old THC office in Shibuya, but I don't know Shinjuku as well. But mainly interested in whether Gingira has a walk-in shop. Thanks!

  8. #13901
    Ok thanks a lot for your feedback mate. Very informative.

  9. #13900
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWick6969  [View Original Post]
    So 200 $ is cheap in Tokyo for FS? Any chances to find something cheaper outside Tokyo?
    $200 is cheap for 70 minutes soapland. It's more than just FS in my opinion. Also, Kira Kira is Yokohama, which is 35 minutes from Shibuya of Tokyo. Best to see my journal description of my first Kira Kira experience with Mona. I've repeated since and it's always great service, not just a bang. The course varies but we hopped in the bath and she sucked me (first me up on her knees then me standing), then we did nuru gel play on an inflatable mattress, then normal sex at the bed, then cuddling and chatting. We could make a good connection, anyone who is nice and reasonable might do the same. Since we vibed well I could get her LINE if I wanted to see her again, but I prefer to fly free like a butterfly. So soap involves being worshipped by the girl the whole 70 minutes. I've never once got that at 'just a FS' place, in 20 years. There's a reason people specifically choose soapland, especially older guys.

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2963631 My first time to Kira Kira 2023.

    Long ago I've been offered FS for $70-$100 in Japan at a corg but the girls weren't to my liking. I believe the right word is ugly, but that's just my experience I visited 10 different corg shops and 9 sucked. So it's not just 'luck' in my opinion. What do I mean by 'just a FS' place? There also used to be glass houses in Yokohama like Amsterdam where you coould pick Chinese girls to bang for $70, I did that many times long ago. But it no longer exists. Girls give you 15 minutes so yes it's cheaper if you ONLY want to bang, but soapland is actually way better for 70 minutes of reverent worship. Plus the glass houses were demolished long ago. Today in the year 2024 what you should do is to pick soapland or delivery health, and it's going to be $200 or more. Each one has its advantage, my other posts compare them.

    Here is my post reminding people that glass houses no longer exist in Easter Japan (try Tobita in Osaka for the closest thing):

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2927973 The mayor of Yokohama promised to demolish glass houses, then resigned for a hostess scandal

    Shin Okubo and Okubo park are not the same place. Shin Okubo is a small koreatown not far from Shinjuku. Okubo park has streetwalkers who may or may not pleasure you at your hotel. If there happens to be a thai girl or someone standing that speaks English, you can invite her back to your room and I and others have no idea what the two of you in private might say or then do. It is a complicated discussion but you are legally safe to do this, Japanese law doesn't punish the john (unless the girl is underage) and in any case does not allow investigation once it becomes private (between just two people). This is a one sentence summary of everything, hope that helps.

    Not my thing, but others have written about it. You will just have to read back a few pages. If you aren't willing to do that, it's not for you then.

  10. #13899
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]
    For those who haven't tried any fs in Japan, I do think Kira Kira is a good start. Almost like fast food easy, 70 minutes of play including nuru. The girls are decent looking, not amazing but good enough, the price is reasonable and the service is good, they will worship you. I never quite get tired of it. They've raised the prices to 31k for 70 minutes ($200) which is still cheap and includes fs without
    So 200 $ is cheap in Tokyo for FS? Any chances to find something cheaper outside Tokyo?

  11. #13898
    Quote Originally Posted by EdHaskell  [View Original Post]
    I had never heard of Gingira, but it looks like a great lineup. My question though. Is there an actual storefront, or is this takeway / phone ordering only? I could not find any physical location for it, but I prefer to go into the shop and view more photos, and usually there are love hotels nearby. Having them come to my hotel is a bit awkward because of the keycard for the lift.

    Thanks for the advice.
    I know Gingira because of a girl but meet her direct rather than the shop. However because of that and seeing her ad photos and shop updates among other things, I know they are legit. She is 22 for example, quite good looking. I will in the future try their shop for other girls, assuming the girl I'm seeing isn't going to monopolize me (I doubt she will).

    If your hotel doesn't support it, you need to book your girl and say the love hotel, then go to the love hotel, check in, and call them to tell them your room number. So you want to plan ahead of time. I can't answer how well they communicate in English but they have an English website with a booking system so it should be okay. This is one benefit of the 'foreigner only' ones. But I'm determined to try other girls next visit so I'll report back some day. As I said, my expertise is in all the middle-action clubs (oppai pubs to fetish), not maid cafes or FS.

    I think other experts can explain the DH booking system better (or a foreigner-friendly one's FAQ might do):

    https://camikaze.cc/escort/foreigner-friendly-escorts/

    See section 7 on the Love Hotel meetup which is common. Shibuya is full of them and it's maybe ~4000 yen for 90 or 120 minutes. Certainly if you're in Shinjuku you can get streetwalkers and bring them back to your hotel direct. I've linked to other reports pages back on that. And I've even picked up regular girls to bring back before. I was a total noob but in Roppongi and I hear Shibuya it's possible. I wrote out what happened, I won't rehash it all look back a few pages.

    BTW, Gingira lately has added movie and gravure sections to highlight girls. For those who can't fly to Japan or book but are thirsty nonetheless:
    https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1304/gingira/

    For those who haven't tried any fs in Japan, I do think Kira Kira is a good start. Almost like fast food easy, 70 minutes of play including nuru. The girls are decent looking, not amazing but good enough, the price is reasonable and the service is good, they will worship you. I never quite get tired of it. They've raised the prices to 31k for 70 minutes ($200) which is still cheap and includes fs without negotiation.
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2963631 Kira Kira Yokohama first experience

    If you like it, you can level up for more luxurious options in Tokyo whether soapland or delivery health. Attached is a nicer soapland room. You tend to get what you pay for, but reserving a girl can up your chances.
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  12. #13897
    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieMonger  [View Original Post]
    You mentioned a number of places I wasn't aware of before in your post below. Are these all open to westerners (who don't speak Japanese)? Or only places you and a few of your American Japanese friends manage to talk your way into?
    I'm not Japanese or Asian.

    Every place I listed is open to English speaking foreigners.

    Even penny pinchers.

  13. #13896
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]
    I want to highlight the exact Manzoku shop I use when I go to Japan. I speak Japanese when I visit but I'm pretty sure English-only is fine. The thing is, the staff there are 3rd party 'neutral' and know 100% which shops will let you in. They make money taking you to the shop you want, they have no relationship with the shop. They want you to be happy and use them again, and I've used them with success for 20 years. This is why you don't need to follow touts (it's a gamble), go to a reputable store. Manzoku took me to Luxe, Leicester, and Hosekinobako which are all walking distance.


    Let's show some love for other shops, both 'foreigner okay' and 'foreigner only'. I am only an expert on oppai pubs not fs, this list here is for your own research of places that other people had success at. For people that already graduated from 'Kira Kira' and want to level up.
    https://amateurtokyo.com/ Tokyo Amateur Escorts
    https://hentaitokyo.com/ Tokyo Hentai Club
    https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html Gingira, girls generally young and photo accurate. Trash talking by request
    https://escort-taitanic.com/ Taitanic Yokohama
    https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/luxe-story/ Luxe Oppai pub, if you speak no Japanese and wonder what it's like to be Japanese..
    Outstanding report, TravelerX, very helpful. I'm headed back to Tokyo for the first time in years, and looking for something different than the Yoshiwara or Jan Jan. I used Hentai Club a number of times years ago when they had some stunning mixed Japanese-Peruvian girls, but the current lineup doesn't look great to me, plus they no longer have the store in Shibuya, and I prefer not to haul my ass all the way to Shinjuku.

    I had never heard of Gingira, but it looks like a great lineup. My question though. Is there an actual storefront, or is this takeway / phone ordering only? I could not find any physical location for it, but I prefer to go into the shop and view more photos, and usually there are love hotels nearby. Having them come to my hotel is a bit awkward because of the keycard for the lift.

    Thanks for the advice.

  14. #13895
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvestor2001  [View Original Post]
    You are legend, thanks a lot in advance.
    I want to highlight the exact Manzoku shop I use when I go to Japan. I speak Japanese when I visit but I'm pretty sure English-only is fine. The thing is, the staff there are 3rd party 'neutral' and know 100% which shops will let you in. They make money taking you to the shop you want, they have no relationship with the shop. They want you to be happy and use them again, and I've used them with success for 20 years. This is why you don't need to follow touts (it's a gamble), go to a reputable store. Manzoku took me to Luxe, Leicester, and Hosekinobako which are all walking distance.

    So I walk in and I'll look at all their posters on the wall, asking about the oppai pubs and picking one. The staff will make a phone call to the shop and ask "Hi, may I introduce a customer? He is a Japanese speaking foreigner" They only take people to legit Japanese establishments because they rely on repeat visitors. They are upfront with communication, like sometimes the shop might say back "Sorry there will be a 20 minute wait is that okay?" and you decide okay or not. Around 6pm-8pm the wait is because girls are still showing up - you will not pay for the waiting time and can drink free beer and maybe snacks. Around 10pm-1am it will be because I and other guys are cockblocking you, keeping the girls busy. Fair enough right.

    Also, Manzoku will get you the best rate by far because it is so competitive. Luxe for example is officially 13k cover charge, don't ever pay it. If I go to Manzoku then it is 6k or 8k "newbie special promo rate", $52. Try kissing three US strippers for $52 total. Note that every oppai pub offers the exact same promo rate because of competition. Imagine if McDonald's, Burger King, and Carl's Junior all offered you their most popular burger for the exact same price of $2.50 as a first time customer. All you do is show up to a 'burger consultant' who walks you to the nearest shop, then the shop gives them back $.50 for the referral. But the burger is really $5 normally. That's how weird it is.

    Sorry for being 24
    Of course on 2nd visits you can use any discount card a girl gives you. Use the card for the girl you like, or if the girl isn't there that day they profusely apologize but say you can keep the card (for next time) and they will honor the discounted rate. They repeatedly apologized to me but I'm like man it's all good I don't care just bring me 3 new girls aged 18-24. At Leicester one girl literally apologized for being 24 years old before hopping on me. I forgave her.

    One of the 3 girls is usually just my type. I have heard Luxe has a lower success rate for hotties, maybe I love Japanese women so much because I liked every girl. If you don't like Japanese women, don't even go.

    This is technically a "first time rate" but if things are slow the Manzoku staff will call the shop and say "May I introduce you to a customer? It's his 2nd time, is it okay?" (to get the promo rate). If you go 6pm-9pm on a weekday, it's probably a yes. They know which shops have Japanese-only (it was maybe 20% of shops so long as you speak Japanese, 70% if you don't) and what other weird race restrictions there are. Their main specialty is referring hostess clubs and oppai pubs, but there is a small section on the wall listing some fetish clubs where you can expect at least bj. Nobody in all of Japan can ever advertise fs, if someone does it's a shady shop and probably not Japanese run.

    By the way, check out the Kabukicho Hentai Club web ad. At the bottom it says 'Teens-20s', WTF Japan. They don't give a damn, that's how they roll. But really, when they say 18-20, what they really mean is 20-35. We all know that already, right? Cool.

    Navigating Kabukicho
    Google street maps are very useful, but keep in mind they are often 2 years old so things change. Plus google photos are from daytime which looks totally different including things being shuttered. Luxe is not on the google street photos yet since they're from 2022. But from Manzoku you can actually see Luxe, it's 1 minute walk. Hosekinobako is like a 6 minute walk with a street crossing and the guy sucks his teeth lol. Nothing good comes easy. There are multiple Manzoku shops but to find this one I find the central Family Mart and it's really close. Manzoku is the shop with the giant black bat. A different shop photo (pink) was a 'English friendly' information booth but things change all the time. I saw it this year.
    https://maps.app.goo.gl/ib6koc4DajqdimHs5 Manoku information station.

    I always remind people that fs (full sex) is not my thing, I go out of curiosity to compare with the USA. See my post in the Yokohama section for Kira Kira which is a good 'first time' experience cheap and you can then decide if you like it or not, low risk. Yokohama station is a 35 minute train ride from Shibuya. I think most people can come out of the experience saying they had fun and it was something very novel and reasonably priced. Others are happy to repeat. Some will 'level up' with other soapland or delivery health.

    I still kind of prefer Kira Kira because they are cheap and the service is good. I can get cuter girls at oppai pubs later, maybe I'm weird but that's how I roll. Btw Kira Kira now has an English website for foreigners
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2963459 My new guide on Kira Kira
    https://kirakira.eroticguide.tokyo/ Kira Kira foreigner portal
    https://kirakira.yokohama/ Kira Kira Yokohama Japanese site. About 45 minutes from Shibuya by fastest train with a change in lines

    Kira Kira soapland in Yokohama for beginners
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2927621 My first post on ISG in 20 years (since 2004)
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2927767 Yes, you can pick
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2927911 Yes, you can bang
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2928088 Yes, you can stay
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2928224 Yes, photos are real but real photos still fool
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2928007 The only thing I don't know

    Let's show some love for other shops, both 'foreigner okay' and 'foreigner only'. I am only an expert on oppai pubs not fs, this list here is for your own research of places that other people had success at. For people that already graduated from 'Kira Kira' and want to level up.
    https://amateurtokyo.com/ Tokyo Amateur Escorts
    https://hentaitokyo.com/ Tokyo Hentai Club
    https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html Gingira, girls generally young and photo accurate. Trash talking by request
    https://escort-taitanic.com/ Taitanic Yokohama
    https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/luxe-story/ Luxe Oppai pub, if you speak no Japanese and wonder what it's like to be Japanese..
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  15. #13894

    Tokyo tips

    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]
    Everyone wants something a little different. Are you looking for FS or sampling something unique? Japan has a lot of different levels of play. I'll try to summarize them below. My hope is to visit Japan again May 2025 but not confirmed yet.

    Shop types
    Maid cafe = No alcohol. Girls in costumes come and call you master and serve you curry and other simple dishes, etc. You can pay for a polaroid with them and play other games and activities. There are many variants based on them, often based on the type of costume. But the basic idea is the same. Very tame.

    Hostess club = Old fashioned club where you talk to ladies and get served alcohol and compliments. They light your cigarettes, remember your birthday, laugh at your jokes. Vast majority are no touch but girls might gently touch you. Some offer takeout UTR but that is between you and the girl only and not the main draw. This is for older gentlemen that want to be entertained and served with reverence the way their wife at home doesn't.

    Girls bar = This is a new style club where you chat with girls and drink alcohol. Girl is similar to hostess and they rotate, or sometimes they are the bartender. Girls tend to be cuter and younger, with less expectation on talking skill. They laugh at your jokes, it is more friendly and casual than hostess club. Vast majority are no touch but girls might gently touch you.

    Oppai bar = Touching and kissing anything above the waist is allowed including, sucking on tits and kissing the girl. The most common system is 3 girls every 40 minutes. Many sub-variants to this including costumes and themes but the idea is the same. For example there are sexy cabarets where the girls line up on a stage and you pick the girl by number and they call the girl down. Like a girls bar, girls tend to be hotter and younger than hostess clubs.

    BJ / HJ bar = There are too many variants to describe, but as I said in the other post there are some that will send you 2 or 3 girls in a row. Some operate more like soapland lite where you have less options than soapland. Sometimes ordered a la carte (ex. The same girl might offer BJ or HJ, upcharge for certain acts, etc.).

    Fetish club = There are too many variants to describe, but for example at one shop I walk into a room and 2-3 schoolgirls are blindfolded and chained for me. I can harass them for 5 minutes until I pick which girl to take upstairs. Then it becomes plain old soapland, maybe sumatra the standard course. Another example is where they are on a train complete with special effects in the frosted windows as if you are riding the train. They hold on to the handle and ignore you completely as you harass them.

    Delivery Health = You reserve a time (and usually a girl), and then go to a hotel and let them know where to meet. They then come to your place, your hotel, or more often a love hotel. FS is not guaranteed but you can negotiate in the room.

    Soapland = Incall, sex is generally guaranteed but technically you are only paying for time (FS is illegal but you get it anyways), so sometimes the girl sees you are a noob and just says "time up". Ask for sex in that case, I've always gotten it.

    Streetwalkers / Tachinbo = In some areas girls will stand around and you can take them to your hotel.

    There's a lot more but those are the common ones. I mean for example I saw a new one which is called 'robot delivery' where the girl comes to your place to bang but she doesn't say a single word. Sounds like heaven for an introvert.

    These options are very regional, with some cities and areas much better and common for certain shops.

    Related guides
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2927559 My main guide on oppai pubs, recommend as cheap fun with cute girls and great service you can't have outside of Japan.
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2927688 Oppai pubs.
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2927714 Oppai pubs.
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6992852 Handjobs for $13 and blowjobs for $26, very cute girls
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2928099 More about cheap handjobs and blowjobs (it was a phase for me).
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...52#post2933352 FS.
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2932207 FS.
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2927621 Kira Kira, a cheap and foreigner-friendly soap in Yokohama.

    Fun in Tokyo region
    If you want a cheap and easy soapland to try out that is foreigner friendly with no gaijin tax, Kira Kira in Yokohama is a good start. They have rule sheets in Japanese, English, Korean, Chinese. There are much more expensive options all around Tokyo.

    Walking around busy parts of Japan after 6pm, you are going to see girls holding up signs. You can see in the first photo below 3 girls with signs listing the price hanging on their necks. Like they were puppies on sale. That's hot. It shows it's a 3000 yen "special entry rate" for a girl's bar / pub. If I had to pick two girls, I would pick the girl on the right twice. Just saying.

    Girls with signs are most often advertising for girls' bars or maid cafes where you chat with cute girls. Chat only. Girls who don't hold up signs are more often going to be offering somethings else, there are a lot of varieties. For example on a few streets I will encounter Chinese girls calling out "massagu" - massage. Hjs are sometimes possible but the cuter girls tend to only offer massage and the lightest extras. Don't be shy to ask if a girl offers HJ / BJ they will just say so. Walk past them and on many streets I will see newhalfs and such at the end, sometimes with touts. There may also be streetwalkers, sometimes with touts sometimes on their own. There is an etiquette where they may be evenly spaced out so you can talk with them in private. They are used to getting harassed by lookie-loos so they will only respond to serious offers. Do not approach random women, there are known spots. People stand around in Japan all the time, don't assume. Okubo Park in Kabukicho is one of them.

    For nampa Shibuya and Roppongi are best. Roppongi especially Friday and Saturday nights at the club areas. It isn't always easy but I picked up girls without planning to, but it can be time consuming. It's not really my thing, I'd rather spend my time having fun and pay to play. Then if I find a shop or girl I like, I can see them whenever I like. Other than FS the options are pretty cheap and easy.

    With girls holding up signs, when business is slow like early hours 6 pm-9 pm the girls stand out to advertise so if you pick that girl you get to start with her.

    Oppai pubs are where you get 3 girls in 40 minutes, all you can drink beer. Go to Kabukicho in Shinjuku for them. Each girl comes by and you can chat and touch or have them straddle you. I usually start by having them put their legs over mine, some girls will be heels off. Second half they drop their tops and you can kiss them or suck on their tits. You can buy them drinks (basically the way to tip them) or extend with a girl you like. I once extended repeatedly with a girl all night because she was a 10 out of 10 for me, 20 years old. I won't go into details but kissing her was amazing. Depending on if you buy them drinks or extend a girl the price is minimum 6000 yen (if you go before rush our like 9 pm) ranging up to 12000 yen (you buy drinks and extend) per 40 minutes ($40 to $80). You can't get that service at a US strip club for those prices, let along with young girls that flatter you and laugh at your jokes. As I said in my other post one girl hopped on my lap and apologized for being 25 years old. Not the first time I got that, 25 is considered old for an oppai pub. I forgave her.

    The reason some hot girls work oppai pubs is it pays double to triple hostess / girl's pub rates without requiring their pussy. There is no tipping but you buy them drinks, and some guys will buy the next level drink which is champagne such as Dom Prignon, coasting about $670. Literally 10 x as much as I was spending just to simp. Or renting a VIP room. So in a way, it's basically speed dating to find a simp! That's where the real money is, if they find those whales they're making more money than even FS work. If the whale is big enough and just starts dating her as a mistress, then even more than US FS work. Some girls do just that and quit a few weeks later. But until they do, you can lick their tits.

    Most customers don't realize this is the end game, it's the same way casinos make most of their money off the whales. Every time I went I was amazed that one or two customers among the 10-20 were whales buying Dom Prignon or champagne towers. With the added sparklers and cheering from staff, it made it a bit awkward for me to turn back to my girl and keep sucking on her tits. But I did.

    2nd and 3rd photo is Rito from Hosekinobako, the 2nd hottest girl I saw this year. I only post real photos that is her. She has tiny feet she rested bare on my leg, she is a great kisser too. No hesitation for play whatsoever so after she gave me her card I asked for her the next visit. The staff loudly announced it for all the other girls to hear "Rito was nominated, Rito was nominated". Surreal. I do not have a photo for the hottest girl because she had just started. Another girl I made out with for 3 hours, pictured next. She also did not have a shop photo so I included her photo from another shop. The great thing about all you can drink beer and buying the girl drinks you just keep getting more handsome and the girl even better. But she was adorable to start, she was brand new and when kissing would open her eyes and look left and right. I taught her how to kiss better and while you don't touch the girl's bottom unless she invites you, I could press myself against her as she straddled me. She has cute eyes, just wide open the moment we started kissing until we took a break. I'll never forget.

    Next photo is the Leicester lineup. Those were the actual girls, I kissed 3 of them. Maybe you can kiss them all. Next is a photo of girls at a girl's pub (this one is a girls' bar where they are the bartenders), faces covered. If you actually go, they will take selfies with you so hiding the face is just a teaser.

    The other thing is in Japan there are rip-off prices sky high, either for rich Japanese who care about a luxurious room or gaijin who don't know better and can't speak Japanese. So when you see crazy prices, those are tourist prices and you can ignore them. They don't represent Japan prices (see Kirakira for the lower end of prices basically $125/$181).

    At Kirakira Yokohama soapland (FS), the rates are 50 minutes for 18000 yen ($125), 70 minutes for 26000 ($181), which is on the cheaper side for Japan but not far off. Girls range from mid-20's to mid-30's, decent but not like the jgirls we get by a significant gap. The hottest girl there wouldn't even qualify in the US, even though you'd be happy and she'd worship you like a King. Soapland service is good, but not quite kgirl good. But that is still world class to be clear (I consider kgirl service to also be world class, especially the milfs).

    One reason I suggest KiraKira is a lot of Tokyo places are either expensive, don't allow foreigners (or many girls don't take foreigners), or charge a hefty foreigner tax. See the 'price list' with orange border below. One is the Japanese price, the other is the foreigner price. You have to pay 60%-80% more for the exact same service, which is already more expensive to begin with. Not at Kira Kira.

    Another photo is of the price list at a BJ / HJ shop. It is one girl you pick almost like a soapland lite, then pick your upcharges. These are Tokyo prices, I have seen much better deals in cheaper cities.

    Good to be king
    Bonus first photo is of girl from Hadaka no Ousama, real photo said she was 22. Literally anything goes except dick in pussy. You pick 1-3 girls and enter the fun room together. FIV encouraged as long as you are gentle and sanitize.

    Hadaka no Ousama translates to "Emperor with no clothes" or "The naked King". The Ousama game in Japanese culture means one person is king and everyone does what they say (like Simon says). Except in this case the King has to be naked. Ask the girls to suck you in alphabetical order, or point and gesture if your Japanese is limited. Issue official proclamations as King. Okay I was young at the time and it was a phase.
    You are legend, thanks a lot in advance.

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