Pattaya Reports

[Voyager1]

Finally doing my past Covid revenge travel and decided to check out Pattaya. I actually heard about Devils Den and wanted to check it our. Sadly the place is closed.

Having walked soi 6 and walking street tonight I have to say there is an amazing amount of talent.

On display. The impression I got was that it is all eye candy unless you are in the money no object camp. Personally I am in the value for money camp and do not think.

Spending huge amount leads to any extra special service.

I did not see a lot of traffic moving in and out of these venues and a sense of desperation seemed to be present as a lot of the talent was outside recruiting. I am.

Guessing this has to do with extortionist fees being demanded. I think walking street is equivalent of nana plaza on steroids. If one does not care for this kind of model.

A little else, it seems, is on offer that I have seen so far.

The Beach Road had surprisingly good looking talent including some hot Kenyans. Sadly there is no guarantee on the health clearance side so I refrained from participating.

Also the logistics of where to bring them made me pause. Although the temptation sure was there. Also the hard core put up or shut up attitude from some the ones I met.

Was not really a turn on. I am going to try the GC next and hope its has something on offer for me. Starting to miss Bangkok as the first night I was there I got my fix. Here on.

The other hand I have been here one day and have yet to do the same. From what I have seen so far I would say Bangkok is superior.

[ElMexicant]

"Thailand welcomed nearly 1.64 million Indian tourists until October this year, making India its third-largest source of international visitors after Malaysia and China." Thailand approves indefinite visa free entries for Indians. Indians much beloved by the Thais. Ranked #3 out of all countries as tourist visitors to Thailand. Where did people think they got their Thai curry from?

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/thai...o-know-6946590#.

[Turgid]

The hierarchy is Asians, Caucasian, Arab, Brown people not Indians, Indians and then African. ....

That's the hierarchy in mongering destinations all over the world today.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Pretty good comments everyone.

Thanks EverythingThai for starting off the list of gogos.

I agree there is a stereotype issue that Indians have to overcome. You got a billion people out there and a few bad ones can make it difficult for the rest.

More than just a few, mate. Indians are basically banned from WanChai in Hong Kong and Bui Vien Street in Ho Chi Minh City. They're certainly not welcome in Thailand or Philippines either.

[KrisMonger]

Pretty good comments everyone.

Thanks EverythingThai for starting off the list of gogos.

I agree there is a stereotype issue that Indians have to overcome. You got a billion people out there and a few bad ones can make it difficult for the rest.

[Mr Enternational]

Suppose I wore designer clothes and a Rolex. Would the bar girls overwhelm me and push me to ring the bell? Would that 1500 baht bar girl demand 3000 baht because she thinks I'm rich?.

No. Because they don't even know anything about a Rolex or designer clothes. All of their stuff comes from Shopee or off the motorbike for 100 baht. Maybe if you were around a Bangkok fashionista, but not with these country bar girls. They are not materialistic in the least. All they know is baht.

[BionicMan]

That could not be it. I get into the same gogos and I wear shorts and flip-flops and have not owned an iron here in 16 years. I definitely do not spend a bunch of money. Regular old Timex on my arm.

Makes me laugh to read somebody rates important to have an important watch (brand) at its wrist, when fakes are offered and sold at every bar and restaurant by a multitude of sellers.

Most likely your Times is more authentic.

[HorseTrader]

That could not be it. I get into the same gogos and I wear shorts and flip-flops and have not owned an iron here in 16 years. I definitely do not spend a bunch of money. Regular old Timex on my arm.

I agree with Mr E and LBM. Nice clothes and jewelry are not necessary. I keep freshly showered and shaven, I wear clean cargo shorts, T-shirt, tennis shoes (or sandals), and a plastic Timex. Occasionally, I'll wear a nicer shirt, but it doesn't seem to affect how I'm treated.

I have an opposite concern. Suppose I wore designer clothes and a Rolex. Would the bar girls overwhelm me and push me to ring the bell? Would that 1500 baht bar girl demand 3000 baht because she thinks I'm rich? I prefer my appearance be that of a kind man of normal means.

[NRandom940]

I don't doubt seen it first hand Indians getting turn away from entry into GoGo clubs. But as I noted majority of the clubs are owned by foreigners the Thais door guys are just doing as told.

Like Mr. E, I have never worn a long pants here in Twenty years even around 8-10 years there was a real cold spell during Christmas and New Years. But I'm clean, dress in shorts, clean nice shirt, and always shaved last I'm old, Chinese American (person of color) not any longer LOL, today consider more a spy to both countries China and USA can't get a break any longer.

There are times my looks I'm mistaken, in the beginning it was Korean, Japanese, Thai, today you can add in Chinese, If I tell them Chinese first and foremost I'm from China, tell them NO there is a difference I'm no Communist I'm made in the USA A LOL.

I'm no longer view as a hansom man, honestly never was today wherever I go, I'm " papa " I've been mistaken a few times spoken by door guys " are you Thai " even when I joke saying yes, I've never been stopped. Today, except at one or two places girls I know I do not buy drinks, my theory at particular clubs there is a time limit particularly from my experience PIN UP, XS, CHICKS, if you order a draft on busy nights that is a cue for waiters to check you bill every few minutes. Being Asian first thing they give me the drink card I politely order Sangsom straight up this seem to buy me at least to view the 3 rotations.

It is true and sad that previous Indian visitors ruin the market for others with Thais they follow the pipe piper many have no proof of the stereo type they just follow what is told by others. Thais have many forms or racism and prejudice I experience it all the time living with them.

It's weird tho. One time I was walking at night and girls on bikes were approaching the groups of Indian guys and propositioning them. I heard one girl say 700 for massage as she rode up to Indian guys.

The girls wouldn't approach me for some reason. I'm a white guy. This was inland just a few streets from Soi 6, probably a 10 minute walk from Soi 6 just outside my hotel.

[LittleBigMan]

I don't doubt seen it first hand Indians getting turn away from entry into GoGo clubs. But as I noted majority of the clubs are owned by foreigners the Thais door guys are just doing as told.

Like Mr. E, I have never worn a long pants here in Twenty years even around 8-10 years there was a real cold spell during Christmas and New Years. But I'm clean, dress in shorts, clean nice shirt, and always shaved last I'm old, Chinese American (person of color) not any longer LOL, today consider more a spy to both countries China and USA can't get a break any longer.

There are times my looks I'm mistaken, in the beginning it was Korean, Japanese, Thai, today you can add in Chinese, If I tell them Chinese first and foremost I'm from China, tell them NO there is a difference I'm no Communist I'm made in the USA A LOL.

I'm no longer view as a hansom man, honestly never was today wherever I go, I'm " papa " I've been mistaken a few times spoken by door guys " are you Thai " even when I joke saying yes, I've never been stopped. Today, except at one or two places girls I know I do not buy drinks, my theory at particular clubs there is a time limit particularly from my experience PIN UP, XS, CHICKS, if you order a draft on busy nights that is a cue for waiters to check you bill every few minutes. Being Asian first thing they give me the drink card I politely order Sangsom straight up this seem to buy me at least to view the 3 rotations.

It is true and sad that previous Indian visitors ruin the market for others with Thais they follow the pipe piper many have no proof of the stereo type they just follow what is told by others. Thais have many forms or racism and prejudice I experience it all the time living with them.

[Explorer8939]

There are some Walking Street gogos that won't let me in if I am with a Thai lady.

[UglyAzzMan]

Houston we have a Problem.

Went to 3 agogos last night, baccara, Fahrenheit, palace.

Common theme not busy at all.

Sure doent look like Busy season. I don't count Thais coming over to see Fireworks as part of busy season, .

[Nyezhov]

That could not be it. I get into the same gogos and I wear shorts and flip-flops and have not owned an iron here in 16 years. I definitely do not spend a bunch of money. Regular old Timex on my arm.

Because you know how to operate. If you took one look at me you would laugh, although I my soccer jerseys are never wrinkled and I don't wear flip flops. Yet, I am treated like a god.

If I wore a President here, I would get no points since none of them would even know what it is and if they did they would think it was fake. I save that for Vegas.

[Mr Enternational]

How do I get into any WS go-go and I dont look white or east asian? Very simple. Im dressed nicely (collared ironed shirt, nice watch, groomed, haircut, clean shoes) and I spend money. Businesses do not forget the people who spend money.

That could not be it. I get into the same gogos and I wear shorts and flip-flops and have not owned an iron here in 16 years. I definitely do not spend a bunch of money. Regular old Timex on my arm.

[Rocko20]

I am not Indian, but I will get you started with the following:

These clubs continually discriminate against Indians. I have witnessed first hand the horrible behavior of the door guys at all these clubs.

I'm not Indian, but I'm not East Asian or Caucasian either. Im American but Im also a person of color.

I have been going to Walking Street go-gos for over a decade. I can only speak for Walking Street because I don't really go to LK Metro, Soi 6, etc.

The reason Indians are treated poorly by WS go-gos is because they don't spend money. Fair or not, that is their reputation and stereotype. This is what Walking Street bargirls have told me directly. Indians have a reputation to go inside the club with 3-4 guys, they nurse 1-2 cheap beers, they don't buy lady drinks, staff drinks, or barfines, and basically they're taking up space for someone, especially an East Asian who will spend money.

There are two groups of people that security doors guys typically do not let in: local Thai men and Indian groups. Only way they're possibly getting in is with a bribe to security. Fair or not, those are the facts.

How do I get into any WS go-go and I dont look white or east asian? Very simple. Im dressed nicely (collared ironed shirt, nice watch, groomed, haircut, clean shoes) and I spend money. Businesses do not forget the people who spend money.

SWIM suggests in Thailand and Pattaya. If you have to spend MORE money than the next guy to get the SAME girls. Then you getting GOT. Pure and simple you are apparently deficient in one or more of the following categories: looks, charm, game, common sense, self confidence, hygiene, personality, or the "it" factor.

And that old, short, fat, hairy, ugly, bald guy will simply claim that you are deficient in your bank account.

Ive mongered for many years, and Ive learned that not every monger has the same budget or bank account.

Ever seen a porno clip where an ugly nasty fat guy is fucking a young hot chick and cums inside her? Yeah, thats the power of money, not charm or game, money.