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02-12-25 19:40 #14114
Etoile Soapland. Hinata
Date of Session: Jan 2025.
Location: Etoile in Tokyo, Yoshiwara district.
Name: Hinata.
Link: www.y-etoile.jp.
Nationality & Language: Japanese.
Age: Probably early 30's.
Face: 3. 5/5.
Body: 3/5.
Skill: 5/5.
GFE: 5/5.
PSE: 5/5.
Price & Session Length: 83,000 yen & 120 m.
Repeat: Definitely.
Background.
This is my first report so forgive me if I make some mistakes or if it's too long. This trip is the first time I visited a soapland and I thought I'd go all out and ended up going to three different soaplands during this trip. Etoile was the second one I visited during this trip and I found it to be the best in terms of service of staff, facilities, and the experience. I'll get around to reporting my other two experiences later but I thought I'd start with the most memorable one.
Appointment.
After some research, I settled on Hinata of Etoile. I found her Line account and messaged her directly with my messages copied and pasted from a translation app (I speak zero Japanese). She responded rather quickly and made the booking process a breeze. Now I'd like to highlight that she asked me to message her the day before the appointment to confirm that I'll be there. This is where I messed up. I was busy doing touristy things and forgot to message her the day before. Instead, she messaged me the morning of the appointment to ask me if I'm coming. I told her I am and apologized for forgetting to confirm the appointment. The reason I bring this up is because it seems like she asks customers some questions during confirmation. Most importantly, if the customer would like to see her in a specific costume. But because I forgot to confirm, I did not receive this questionnaire and it's completely my fault. So don't be like me. Confirm your appointment the day before.
Introduction.
I showed up 10 minutes before my appointment time and was escorted to the waiting room by the staff. They asked me what I wanted to drink and brought me a delicious snack (some red bean stick thing). I paid the bill and waited in the room while enjoying my drink and snack. I did not see or even hear any other customer during my entire time at Etoile. Soon the staff came to escort me to Hinata and the entire staff all bowed down low to the ground which made me uncomfortable as I'm not used to this level of service.
Hinata greeted me in what appears to be her favorite succubus outfit, wearing little horns on her head. I'll be honest here. I found Hinata's physical appearance a bit disappointing. I prefer natural beauty and her face is a little more plastic than I expected and she is very skinny with fake tits, giving her physique a more unnatural look. I thought she'd have a little more meat on her. I was initially concerned that I wouldn't be turned on enough but having already been disappointed with my previous experience at another soapland, I decided to just try to enjoy the experience for whatever it ends up being. I'm glad I dropped any expectations because Hinata's personality and skills got me over that concern real quick.
We used her translation app to communicate and she's such a bright personality that I found it easy to communicate with her. We talked about my travel, I asked her about her hometown and her prior experiences, and we initially just cuddled and laughed. Then she took out a huge box of stuff and started digging through it before she took out a handkerchief and what I think are eye masks to give to me as a gift. She then meticulously wrapped it up nicely into a bag and handed it to me. I thanked her and she seemed genuinely happy to give me gifts. I'm guessing she's great at making her customers feel comfortable and made me feel like we had a nice connection.
Session #1.
We then started making out with some LFK to DFK as she worked her tongue down my body. I have an athletic build and she said I have a "beautiful body" multiple times throughout the session which I appreciated. She got down to BBBJ and it was very nice. Good amount of spit mixed with lots of hand action, tongue play, and eye contact. After some time, I asked her to turn around for some 69 to return the favor and she flipped around and sat on my face enthusiastically. She let out sweet moans as she continued to perform BBBJ and she eventually acted like she came with some loud moans and shivers. I'm sure she was acting but it was quite believable. She then flipped back around and got on top to ride and did she ride! She went from grinding to bouncing up and down to squatting up and down while rubbing herself that I found it all very exciting. She'd occasionally move in with DFKs and I grabbed her ass and bounced her up and down as she moaned into my ear. She then turned around to bounced up and down then turn to the side to continue the action. It's usually difficult for me to finish cowgirl so she went at it for quite some time, varying the speed and positions. As I got close, she noticed by my breathing and moans and she started riding me vigorously until I came inside her. She then fingered out some cum and played with it before cleaning me up and washing herself.
Break.
We then started chatting again and she told me she liked my butt and legs. She then lit up and started digging through her box of things again. She fished out a leopard print thong and insisted that I put it on saying that I would look great in it. I can honestly say that I've never tried on a thong before but I went with it, laughing at myself. She clapped and insisted I keep it as she dug around for another box to put it in. I told her that she has so many things in her box and she said she's like Doraemon, the anime character, with all his things. I told her I like Doraemon which again made her light up as she dug out a Doraemon handkerchief and insisted I take it as another gift! I told her she's so sweet and kind and she said she's only sweet and kind to handsome men. I told her I bet she says that to all of her customers and she said, "a lot of my foreigner customers are handsome so yes, I say that a lot. " Her blunt answer made me laugh and I appreciated her playfulness. As she boxed up all the gifts again, she had me get in the tub to relax.
Session #1. 5.
Now I'm not young and I don't remember the last time I was able to cum more than once in 2 hours so I let Hinata know that I'm unlikely to cum again and that I'm perfectly happy cumming once. I think she took this as a challenge for the remainder of our session. She hopped into the tub, lifted up my hips and tried to start another round of BBBJ / HJ but my little guy showed no sign of life. She tried for a few minutes, gave up, and asked me to sit on the chair as she started the chair routine. I don't actually know everything she did to me on the chair but she was moving all over the place as she is small enough to fit through the small space between the chair and the ground. She licked, rimmed, rubbed, and slid all over me and I found her skills quite amazing. I asked her if she ever slipped and fell and she said never. She continued to test my little guy for any sign of life but he remained in recovery mode. After the chair session, she asked me to relax in the tub again as she prepped for the slippery mat session.
Session #2.
Again, I don't know exactly what Hinata did as I lay face down on the mat but there was a lot of rubbing of bodies in the warm, slippery oil. She kissed and licked my entire body including more rimming. She flipped me on my back and continued rubbing herself all over me mixed in with some more LFKs. She grinded herself on my arms, took my finger and fingered herself with it. As she continued to rub against me, I actually felt some signs of life coming back to my little guy and she noticed because she's an observant professional. She got excited and started another round of BBBJ as I started to get hard again. I felt that I might lose it if she stopped to try to put it in so I told her not to stop and she happily obliged. She sucked harder and faster. She then put my dick in between her tits and started titty fucking me as she licked and sucked my head. I found this too visually stimulating and felt myself about to cum. I told her I'm cumming and she quickly jumped up, sat on my dick, and bounced up and down saying, "I catch you! As I came inside her. She continued to ride me until I couldn't take it anymore and tapped out. I just laid there and got a body high as my entire body started tingling. Hinata asked, "daijobou?" and brought me some water. I told her I can't believe she made me cum again and she had a big smile on her face like she was very proud of herself.
Conclusion.
We didn't have much time left so we cleaned ourselves up, put my clothes back on, and chatted for the remaining few minutes. She thanked me for coming and being a gentleman and I thanked her for the amazing experience. She walked me down and we parted ways with a light kiss. I was escorted to the waiting room again and the staff brought me another drink. I asked if I could have more of the red bean snack and they happily brought me two more. When I was ready to leave, they escorted me out with another deep bow. I left with a smile on my face, feeling glad that I visited Hinata.
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02-12-25 15:55 #14113
A Missing Wingman
Subbies,
Would be fun to hang out with wingmen, but I had to go home today Wednesday, landing at LAX right now.
Too bad we missed each other. Would be fun to meet you in Tijuana some days.
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02-12-25 12:18 #14112I had a punt with a JAV with 55 videos on Javguru. I hadn't seen her videos before but damn that was one of the most pse experiences I had. JAV usually have more experience than regular girl but it doesn't guarantee anything special. It's mostly for a bucket list thing. Also, if a girl just has 1 video I wouldn't really count that as a JAV. They just make 1 video so they can claim JAV status and increase their prices in shops.
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02-12-25 12:11 #14111Hey bro. Originally Posted by DecadenceRiver
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I wanted to ask similar questions that you had. I'm planning a trip to Japan and want to try stuff out that is only available in Japan. Not too interested in FS.
Here is some of the weird stuff I found in Tokyo. Only included sites that mention being foreigner friendly.
https://www.robodeli.net/ - Robot girl, stop time like in JAV if you're interested. A lot of extras available too.
https://akiba-cos.jp/en/ - Schoolgirls (18+) delihealth since you asked for young.
https://shibu-gal.com/howto.html - Peep show, 1 way mirror you watch girls and masturabate. Voyeur stuff.
https://lovely-hand.net/top.php?lang=en - Chikan course, like in those JAVs though I assume it's just a regular room with train sounds & train handles to hold on to rather than an actual train.
Plenty of oppai club info here already.
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/ has a lot of info for foreigner friendly places.
If anyone has any other weird shit, please let me know so I can add it to my list when I go visit. I'm going to visit Tokyo but still deciding if I should visit Osaka or Sapporo so if there's anything cool there I'd be interested in knowing.
Regarding Tobita Shinchi, when I went there almost a decade ago the service for me was bad and not worth it. 1 of my friends had a good time. Imo not worth it, but you can always window shop there if you're in the area.
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02-12-25 06:37 #14110
Tokyo
Looks like Captain solo has made his way across the pond. I'm staying in Shinjuku if you want to grab a drink or 2 later.
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02-11-25 22:59 #14109
Nono of Hentai Shinjuku 20 yo 4'11 Hot Baby Doll $450 date 2 hours
Hentai Shinjuku site lists dozens beautiful young girls with pics, detailed descriptions, work schedule, service and prices for in / outcalls. Selection can be made at the office near the Don Quiote bldg East of Shinjuku Station or outcalls booked for 2,000 Yens extra.
The girls looked so good in their pics. I would book everyone of them, but Nono was the hottest -looking spinner, 4'11 with the sweetest, innocent smile. I quickly booked her via Whatsapp with options for BBBJ and vibrator, 3 K yens each extra, total 33 K roughly $250. Had to sign their contract confirming no vaginal intercourse.
She arrived right on time at 7 PM, waited for me in the lobby of hotel Apa Kabukicho Tower, a young and pretty spinner with a pretty, innocent face, shy, apprehensive mile, no make up, bundled in a fur jacket. Guys were glancing at her discreetly in the lobby.
We were embracing and DFKissing as soon as we got in the room. She did not require upfront payment, took off her clothes, a lean, flawless body with natural be cups, a small tuff of hairs over her pubic region. My dick was doing Musk's huge Nazi salute. I was in a hurry to pin her down in bed, had no time for a shower.
I was kissing her mouth, sucking her all over, toying with her tiny, sticky pussy and her G spot. She got wet on my fingers. I played her with the vibrator which was smaller than my dick. She was moaning softly with her eyes closed. I got so horny to penetrate her, completely forgot the 3 K Yen BBBJ option. She was so tight, took a lot of lube and work. Had a long, energetic session, popped big. She was just moaning, showing no passion.
She took a quick shower, said we still had 38 minutes left. Gave her 20 K yens tip for extras, total $450, asked if she was hungry and wanted to go out and eat. She agreed. I let her choose. We walked to Shin Sen, classy Michelin-Star Chinese place on the big Blvd on the South side. Host said 40-minute wait. We decided to try the classy Yakiniku nearby.
Kabukicho has dozens yakinikus, mostly small grimy ayce grills with 5 to 10 tables. But this Yakiniku is huge and classy with discreet booths, the nicest place on the East West Blvd, near the Kabukicho South gate. It's sister restaurant Toru serves expensive Wagyu sets.
She was concerned about costs, ordered a few plates of beef and pork. I asked her to order Wagyu. She grilled the meats tenderly and we shared every bites. The Wagyu beef had exquisite buttery taste, silky texture and smoky flavor. With drinks costs totaled 9,100 Yens or $80. She said it was expensive, could try cheaper and better yakitories. Said she was a student in Australia with an Australia mobile phone.
We walked back hand in hand to Kabukicho, always crowded with young people, parted way in front of the Toho cinema. She had to go back to Hentai office after spending 2 hours with me. She got a little choked up as we held hands, but refused a hug and kiss in public.
Shinjuku is packed 24/7 with good food, sexy entertainment and the sweetest young girls.
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02-11-25 22:52 #14108Hi Traveler X, thanks for the reply. Originally Posted by TravelerX
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1. I speak basic Japanese, is that good enough to enter Hosekinobako and Leceister? I think I'll pass on Luxe since the quality seems to be lower. How do they screen your Japanese? Is there perhaps a script I could use to get in? Also, could I enter in the late afternoon（3-5 pm) or is it only open at night?
2. How do I meet a FC2 girl in Japan?
3. I can't seem to find any fetish shops regarding the "trapped in the room with 3 schoolgirls" roleplay scenario. Are they perhaps closed and a thing of the past?
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02-11-25 21:42 #14107There is some fee for exchanging Yen to USD, but 9000 would ideally be $59. One way to get yen is at any 711 ATM - it will ask Yen or USD and I believe Yen gives better rate. Surprisingly, Narita and Haneda airport exchange gives good rates too because the exchange is run by a bank. There is a small fee either way but you should be closer to $59 than $75. I would avoid using CCs since these kind of shops have to pass on extra fees to you. Originally Posted by Captain Solo
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Sorry to hear, like you say you'd be happy if they were young and cute. Oppai pubs send you 3 girls because it's hit and miss, but it's possible to have all duds. In the 3rd case it sounds like she had GPS. I believe the order is actually random, I've had best girl first different times. HK is definitely a better option if you prefer Latinas. Long ago I did find one I really liked but I think most of them are not my type. Originally Posted by Captain Solo
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This is an important data point against Luxe. Most guys who went reported a mix of good and bad, I think if we get 1 or 2 young hotties we'd be happy. Or at least for the hottie to give full access like she's supposed to. I ran into one girl like that at Luxe, she was hot but expected me to buy a drink before doing anything. Girls are not supposed to do it, but clearly a few do. I haven't run into this at Leicester or Hosekinobako, but those shops expect you to speak Japanese. I think ATex got in anyways with a Japanese friend as well as showing receipts from previous visits.
Unfortunately, Luxe is the only fully foreigner friendly club. Like strip clubs, these shops have high turnover so most of the girls keep changing. Same deal with DH, the majority of the girls keep changing too. On the plus side, it means you can sometimes run into a new girl that gives genuine GFE like Captain Solo was able to find. By the same token, some newer girls don't know the job well.
My first several times to Japan, I had these same hit and miss experiences. There is some luck at play. At oppai pubs I got girls I liked in Nagoya 20 years ago, but I was not allowed in most shops in Tokyo. But I did use Manzoku to find a fetish shop. I also sampled the Yokohama version of Tobita (now closed). It's important to read back several pages and note how with DH, lots of guys had a mix of good and bad girls. But some of the good ones were amazing, so there is fun to be had.
Thank you!
Tokyo Amateur Escort Info
I did a search of other Tokyo Amateur Escort (TAE) reports. It's nice to see Mr America had a good time at Luxe, like I say these things are hit and miss. Several people have had success with TAE, but it is really up to the girl and every girl is different.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2981984 (Captain Solo)
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...yo#post2977180 Suzu and Rika (Rick)
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...yo#post2976394 Saki and Sana (America) + Luxe
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...yo#post2972346 Setsuna (Bribs)
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...yo#post2954715 (John)
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2938365 Aug 2024
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...yo#post2936930 Aug 2024 + Kira Kira
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...yo#post2930156 Jul 2024
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...yo#post2925080 Jun 2024
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...yo#post2803473 Apr 2023
Those are all the TAE reviews on ISG. John notes that there may be a 10% added fee. Whether tax or for credit card. I have not used TAE yet, they sound like a good value either way, but good to know ahead of time. Every review we add makes it clearer which shops are good for foreigners. There are enough choices that we should go where we are treated right and are welcome. So with Captain Solo's success, I will continue to highlight TAE info here.
https://amateurtokyo.com/ Tokyo Amateur Escort Delivery Health
DH (Delivery Health) has so many shop choices, so intel like this is key. The only way to keep a shop honest is reviews like yours. Most Japanese locals expect DH girls to actually be close to their photos. Most shops do that, but certainly not all. I have the reverse intel where I have seen jgirls in the US, and knowing what shop in Japan they worked I looked them up and could see how close they were to photos. Like you, it was 80% accurate. Most importantly if you liked her shop photos, you'd like the girl.
If you go to Tokyo Amateur Escort's site and see the girl's listing, each girl has a profile. You'll notice different labels. A yellow/green heart with 3000 yen discount means the girl is new and discounted. Good that they're upfront about it. Ranking with a crown means the girl is popular. It doesn't necessarily mean you'll like her, just that other guys like her. Since I'm not familiar with TAE, I keep calling it Amateur Tokyo below since that's the website name.
The website is English friendly and you can either walk into their shop in Shibuya in person or reserve by phone, line, Wechat, etc.. Note in CS' case he met her at the hotel lobby. Just be discreet and act natural, lots of foreigners meet young jgirls for all kinds of normal reasons. I see it all the time. CS also paid her at the room. Note that most shops will reluctantly allow you to change a girl you don't like if you haven't started yet, you just pay the 'travel fee' which is tiny. I think if a girl looks completely different than her photo and isn't your type, I would politely say she's not your type and ask for a change. Offer to pay her 'taxi fee'.
https://amateurtokyo.com/play-guide/ Shop FAQ
I would always be skeptical of what a shop claims, but here below the shop claims to have younger girls and be cheaper. Surprisingly, CS' experience matches that. Who knows if the streak will continue, that's what reviews help us with.
https://amateurtokyo.com/concept/ Amateur Tokyo sales pitch
I did a further search and found HkPunter's list of shops and tips for foreigner friendly Soaplands and DH:
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02-11-25 16:29 #14106
Luxe OPPAI Club, $150 for 45 minutes with 3 women
Walked to Manzo Ku, asked the guy to go to Luxe OPPAI, known friendly to foreigners. The guy called Luxe, got agreement, walked me 50 around the corner to Luxe. He said I could suck tits or do whatever I want with the girls.
There was a sign in front of the building, but all texts were in JapNese.
We took elevator to 2nd floor to a dimly lit club. Had to pay 9000 yens or $75 for AYCD alcohol and to sit with 3 random women.
The first woman was fairly big, tall and slightly thick, looking plain like a mid-40's housewife. She quickly sucked my tongue, guided my hands to her natural see cups and her hot crotch, urged me to suck her tits. She wanted to give me lap dances but I just ate and did not want pressure on my tummy.
I offered her a drink. She said she liked whiskey but warned me her drinks cost 3,000 why each, I did not have to buy for her. Her alleged whiskey was just weak tea. 4 Japanese guys at the next couch were assigned 4 girls, got loud and exuberant, bought beers then a $500 champagne bottles for them.
After 15 minutes they brought m a new girl, smaller and slightly more attractive. I bought her a drink and converse with Translate.
They brought the last girl, tall, slim with long legs, far more polished and better looking with nice, natural A cups, which she reluctantly gave me access. The club strategically delivers uglies first and pretties last to hook guys into buying drinks.
She was smiling sweetly, talking pleasantly in halting English, said she is a med student at an undisclosed school. She wore long, polished nails with diamond studs, not conducive for dissecting cadavers, so I think she just bullshitted me. She would not kiss, wanted me to buy champagne, nominate her or extend her time for 4,000 yens, but I declined. Finally she said time was up, she had to walk me out.
It costed me 9000 yens to get in plus 9000 yens for girls Drinks, $150 for some touching and some shallow conversation, not worth the money, probably one of the most expensive clubs. The bros who can speak Japanese may have better times flirting. If the girls were young and hot, I may have spent more money. On them.
In comparison, girls in the Hong Kong club in Tijuana would do lots of hot things in the club, up to 20-30 minutes with just a $11 putas' beer, and are avail to go to hotel for sex for $100-120, a very efficient and effective way to sell sex.
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02-11-25 07:26 #14105
Sweet session with AmateurTokyo dot com escort.
After getting burned by an Okubo street shark, I searched a few escort sites, intrigued by the sweet faces and flawless, slender bodies in Amateurs Escort site.
On site in Shinjuku costs 22 K yens with 3 to 6 K why love hotel room. Delivery to hotel costs 28.6 K, roughly $250. Booked the sweetest -looking K and, 22, arrived in exactly 30 minutes.
Met her in hotels lobby. Took her up in elevator. APA Kabukicho Tower security guy had no issue, but other guests were staring at this hot young girl.
She carried a bag full of health supplies, in including 2 towels, oil ect like a masseuse. She wanted money first, said she had to pay her boss half and would owe that money if she could not collect. I gave her 30 K and told her to keep the 1. 4 K why, about $12. She was surprised and delighted.
We showered together. She washed me thoroughly and I rubbed her in all strategic spots, very erotic hehe. The site did wonders with the pics. She did not look as slender, flawless, innocent like the pics, but about 80% accurate, more like GND. I had no regrets. My dick was at full attention just looking at her all-natural body with perky see cups.
We got under the blanket, cuddling, dfkissing, sucking tits, rubbing sensitive spots. We were both extremely aroused, groan, gasp heavily. I was so horny, had to penetrate her. She said she would lose her job if her boss finds out she had sex. Their service is strictly health aids, everything is allowed except penetrating sex.
Had a very hot, energetic, exhaustive session with this sweet but shy GF. We were cuddling, talking in bed for the full 65 minutes. She's in school, speaks adequate English. She asked if I was satisfied; I asked her the same. It was a tender, loving session like with a GF.
She was hungry but could not go out to eat with me as she had to be avail for booking and her boss monitors her every move. She needed that job to pay for school. She could get fired if giving out her own tel. I gave her 10 K yens tip or about $80. She was grateful.
65 - minute session costed me 40 K yens or $250 including tip, worth it to me with the personal connection with this sweet but shy amateur.
Looked like she felt guilty having to do what she did, just did not show as much passion and express as much joy as the Kazach girl in Bangkok.
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02-10-25 18:36 #14104Since you have specific preferences on looks, try Tobita in Osaka. You walk around the entire area and pick a girl based on looks. It is reasonably priced in my opinion, you obviously get the girl you pick. Originally Posted by DecadenceRiver
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At oppai pubs, you get 3 random girls. If you like any, you keep them and forget the rest. You can extend. It is cheap to see just 3 girls, they are hoping you fall in love and keep extending. Extending costs more, but oppai pubs are pretty cheap to begin with. I hop between 3 oppai pubs each night, usually hitting 2 on rotation for the discount by Manzoku. If I go about 8pm, they will happily offer me the promo rate even on repeat visits (it is guaranteed for first-timers). But 10pm, the club fills up and you can't get in.
I have so many friends try to bang JAV stars, it is usually a disappointment. It is a lot of money and a novelty. I am just trying to lower expectations, I know some guys love the idea. I have had B-listers myself (girls I don't know) but didn't realize it until after. In a way, you are just banging an idea unless it happens to be an A-list favorite you actually already know. Even the guy who banged and filmed A-Lister Ichika Nagano said he was disappointed at her performance - I posted proof a while back. They never perform half as well as they do in JAV. Maybe they are washed up or jaded, Ichika was just done with it. Of all the jgirls I've had, the two very best did not do JAV but simply let me film them. The third best was FC2 porn. The youngest, best looking, and best performing girls were not JAV stars you could book. There is strong consensus on this when we see them in the US. We have reviewed a lot of jgirls.
About FC2, filming, and JAV stars touring
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7095387 FC2 guide 1
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7096622 FC2 guide 2
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7115643 Touring JAV girl
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7133251 Jgirl filming
Clearly, many guys are passionate about hunting JAV stars. But a year or two later, they never mention it again and stop doing it. It is mainly a novelty and the shops that advertise it know that.
I found fetish shops through Manzoku. These days, they advertise online. The good thing is just by being on yoasobi, they are indicating they are open to foreigners.
At soapland you pay for time and how many shots is between you and the girl. I have heard many ideas about how many shots you get, but in my observation it is between you and the girl. With Mone I got 4 bbbj and 2 fs, with next girl I get 2 and 1.
The reason I mention Tobita is you have a very specific look you want. Obviously, you are choosing looks over service. At a good soapland, you will get service over looks. They are both valid choices you just need to know what you want. There are minimum expectations on looks and service that most girls pass, but I always stick to well reviewed establishments or one that openly advertises with Manzoku. Manzoku relies on repeat customers too so they only put legit shops on their walls. They get instant feedback from any customer they send to a shop.
Japan has good budget hotel options. I would look for cheap but not necessarily rock bottom price. You will care about location in hindsight.
The most important advice I gave to strip club negotiations applies here. If a girl does not give you the right vibe and attitude when you meet her, pass on her. Japanese tachinbo are complicated since it is hard to feel them out this way, it could be mistaken for politeness. Other guys have reported success with Thai streetwalkers. Originally Posted by VonSauer
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It is a complicated story but I was once looking for a hotel and was propositioned repeatedly by many Thai streetwalkers. I was not interested, but it was really clear it would go well if I went with them. Another girl I met was Filipino, I met her in an internet cafe and it could not be clearer we would bang. We had a lot of fun, she did not even tell me what to pay her. I literally paid her what I wanted. I actually realized later I paid her too little (ichi man). She was down to meet again. I can only guess that she was into me because the experience took me years to process.
I have told my story before about Koganecho, which is similar to Tobita but now gone. Mostly Chinese girls, a few thai, a few Japanese, a few European. Out of all my experiences, I will only bang jgirl at soapland or DH. Soapland quality assures girls the hardest. We can only talk averages here, obviously every single girl is different.
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02-10-25 15:49 #14103I would definitely advise against trying Japanese girls doing tachinbos in the Okubo area if you are a foreigner. If you read the Japanese forums, it is already known that most of the girls who deal with foreigners will scam them using language as an excuse. Some will say HJ only when in the room or just add cost saying that this and that was not included in the price agreed on the streets. Originally Posted by CaptainSolo
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Apparently they already all use the same "scam manual" and have different groups specializing in scamming foreigners.
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02-10-25 10:57 #14102
Need help for Osaka and Tokyo trip
Planning a 10 day trip to Osaka and Tokyo. Budget $10 k usd. 5 days in Osaka and 5 days in Tokyo; but not sure if I should spend more time in Tokyo? I'm generally looking for more premium options. I like young girls who are skinny and tall, something like Arina Arata and Umi Yatsugake kind.
These are my to-do lists and questions:
1. Oppai pubs: Do we get to choose the girls? Or will they just randomly assign 3 girls?
2. Bang a JAV star: I'm willing to splurge on this, and prefer younger lesser known girls compared to older well known stars. I know Tora No Ana has a few options, but will newcomer gaijins like me be allowed? Also since its a DH, will there be sex option provided? This will probably be the highlight of my trip, so I appreciate if someone can help me on this.
3. Pink Salon: This will be just be a one-time thing for the experience. I heard the ladies are older and theres a higher risk of STIs, so I'm willing to give it a skip. Just curious if there are more premium options available? And if so, can we choose the girl?
4. Roleplay scenarios / fetish: I read from an earlier thread about a guy locked in a room with 3 schoolgirls and something called hadaka no ousama where you get to roleplay as a naked king with a bunch of girls. This actually seems pretty interesting to me and I would like to explore the scene. Could anyone direct me or recommend me such places? I would like to spend more time on this since its something you can only find in Japan. I'm not really interested in traditional BDSM, preferably something more vanilla which involves multiple girls.
5. Soaplands: Of course, nothing is complete without a proper soap in Japan. I would like to go for a more premium option here, but I have heard horror stories of tenchous giving gaijins the bottom of the barrel girls. I don't mind shelling out more cash, but she has to be hot and young. Would using a manzoku help me? Or are they part of the scam and will just recommend you some shitty place to get the commission? Can I at least see the girl in person and reject? Or will I have to make a decision based on a photoshopped pick with no option to change the girl? I would like to spend a bit more time getting this right since its pretty shitty to spend $800 on a old fat chick. Also I heard BBFS is commonly available? Will this option be available to gaijins, and if so what are the best places to visit?
6. Delivery Health: Will be giving this a shot at least once. How are the quality of the girls compared to soaplands? Also what is the top-up rate for FS? I heard its 20 k yen? Would appreciate if someone could recommend me the more premium delivery healths with hotter girls, I don't mind spending more.
7. Osaka: Is it worth exploring other options, or will Tobita Shinchi always have the hottest girls?
Misc:
1. I want to spend as little as possible on hotels; maybe $150-$200 a night. Is APA the best option?
2. Do soaplands and DH go by time or by shots? I. e. I get unlimited shots as long as its within the time frame?
Thanks in advance.
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02-10-25 08:57 #14101Limousine bus is amazing, cheap and comfortable. Often direct. Originally Posted by Captain Solo
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It is just hindsight, but if you feel a girl might have GPS and isn't giving you clear signs she is DTF and motivated to play (ex. kissing, bj, etc..) it's just hard. I don't know a good way but with my best experiences the girl let me get hands on and was smiles and responsive before I handed money. So there was no question I'd have fun with her, often I didn't even pay until the end. Obviously with GPS they ask money first and play hardball with the minimum. It's kind of a dead end but if you feel it falls too short maybe ask for half back being specific what you expected and didn't get. Rather than paying her upcharge when she already showed you she was low service. Originally Posted by Captain Solo
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I'm nice to every woman, but if she said 20K was for 5 minutes I would say there's a misunderstanding but give me half back. Sometimes they will try better, but I mean it if she won't change her attitude. Some women don't know their job and I guess if I already had a hot shower with her and a few minutes of action let's part ways 50-50. I'm being generous because I want to move on to the next girl.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2968569 Japan Legal situation
You can kiss and suck on tits with a hot young girl at an oppai pub for 1/10th the price at an oppai pub (6K for 3 girls so 2K per girl or $13). I know some guys consider that getting blueballed. I guess I'm backwards because I will bang a soapland girl in the morning, go sightseeing, then see oppai pub girls at night without any pressure. I love flirting with them. Examining them head to toe with their legs over mine first. Kissing and licking them later. Every pair of breasts are different.
I can't do this by myself. Please lick their tits for me while I'm gone. Everyone in the world who loves Japanese women is welcome. Luxe oppai pub is the goto place because you can go while English only. But Hosekinobako and Leicester are better.
DH is not my area of expertise. But I seen some and interviewed them, including negotiating bb. In a way, it helps to simply say what you want. I offer 10K and go up to 15K, past that I'd walk since soapland is cheaper. I know many guys want DH, but I wanted to point out the real reason I suggest oppai pubs and soapland "one time" first: Originally Posted by Captain Solo
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Oppai pubs are super cheap. Playing with 15 oppai pub girls are about the cost of 2 girls to bang, as long as you can bar hop to take advantage of the 6K to 8K entry (3 girls each). Many DH veterans say oppai pubs were fun and novel "the first time". So try it your first time and raise your standards a little. You can flirt, kiss, touch, suck on their tits. It's just foreplay but at 2K ($13) for each girl, you become immune to GPS from a girl asking 20K without even letting you kiss and suck first! Originally Posted by Traveler X
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I will say at Luxe some girls (maybe 25%) expect you to buy them 2.7K drinks ($18) before action, whereas at every other oppai pub you can play first with every girl. Probably because Luxe is a foreigner friendly oppai pub where you need zero Japanese, whereas others are "must speak Japanese". It was the first time in 20 years I saw this, but also the first "foreigner friendly" oppai pub I've ever seen. It's new.
Just to be clear, oppai pub girls are on average younger and hotter than DH girls. That's why the girls are at oppai pubs, to save at least their pussy.
Oppai Pub Posts
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2927559 Intro to oppai pubs (July 2024)
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2927664 Part 2
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2959611 Update (Nov 2024) - Bribs is researching
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...57#post2964457 Update (Nov 2024) - Bribs finds love
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2966010 Update (Dec 2024) - Bribs repeats love
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2929014 No tip, buy drink, save money by not extending
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2927688 No need for VIP
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2927714 No need for VIP
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...ai#post2936662 Hygene (Aug 2024)
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...25#post2965225 Fjrk76 might buy a house for an oppai pub girl
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2955623 ATexGuy's visit
https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/luxe-story/ Luxe Oppai pub Do NOT pay full rate of 13K, Manzoku can get you 6K to 8K or just ask Luxe to discount to 10K on the spot
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...61#post2963461 How to get to Manzoku
Delivery Health Posts
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2963634 Some DH info
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2962969 More DH info
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2962146 Negotiate first at DH
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...te#post2961999 Negotiate first at DH
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...48#post2964148 DH is hit and miss, 1 weak girl 1 great girl
https://camikaze.cc/escort/foreigner-friendly-escorts/ Example of how to DH
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1304/gingira/ Gingira media
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...91#post2965391 Rick Rock has fine taste in women
Random shops
https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html Gingira, girls generally young and photo accurate
https://amateurtokyo.com/ Tokyo Amateur Escorts
https://hentaitokyo.com/ Tokyo Hentai Club
https://escort-taitanic.com/ Taitanic Yokohama
Shizuku at Hentai Tokyo is working this week, at the time of this post:
https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2703
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02-10-25 08:31 #14100Thank you for banging the women of Japan and sharing the fun. Originally Posted by MatadorDfw1
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Hot girls exist, I just wouldn't expect them. I want to set realistic average expecations, no harm if the girl ends up way better on occasion. I imagine the hottest girls will eventually gain skills and realize how popular they are, then hop over to a premium / expensive shop for 50% to 100% more. Thanks for pointing Ai out for others. Originally Posted by MatadorDfw1
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Kira Kira does have decent minimum standards, since they rely on loyal repeat customers. They are also very foreigner friendly despite being a "for Japanese" shop which is the best type.
As you noted, you got the royal treatment by the girl plus all the shop staff bowing as you left. That's how a good shop is run, service first. They want repeat customers. They sometimes asked me to fill out a survey or asked me in private about a girl for feedback. They do this for Japanese customers too, to figure out which girls to keep or drop. There are always going to be some new untested girls.
Last year, Kira Kira introduced a 5,000 foreigner tax and created an English website. They did this after some guy kept writing guides on how to use them. Kira Kira is still good value though, and has hired more girls to take on the new business.
To be exact, summer of 2024 I paid 26,000 yen ($171). No foreigner tax, no cc charge since I pay cash. Now with 5,000 yen added on, it's 31,000 ($204). You did 90 minutes but also paid 20% for credit card fee which ended up 48K ($318). I get the convenience especially first time, makes sense since you are just trying things out. But in the future, exchange cash at the airport exhange in Narita or Haneda. It is a good rate and they capped it around $2200 per day per person. Or use any 711 ATM which will take an international card. The 24 withdrawl limit is determined by YOUR bank, not anything in Japan. The ATM may ask for dollars and yen, I forgot for sure but I think Yen is actually better.
It's just my opinion, but 70 minutes cash is best by default. Maybe you find a top tier girl, then just repeat her again at the 70 minute rate. Or if you don't like the first girl enough, maybe you were still impressed enough to try again. You get another shot. Once you find a girl you like, you can try to OTC her at the same cheap rate next time you're in town.
Put another way, you obviously had a good time because the girl was great. It would still have been great had it been 70 minutes or if you had paid by cash for less.
There is fun in trying new things, but at soapland you are the referee. You decide what is fair or foul. I once saw a kgirl who I really liked but was also a top expert in rimming. She offered it to me every time but I always said "haha maybe next time". She stopped asking after my 8th visit. Originally Posted by MatadorDfw1
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Some girls are really good at nuru, it's a combination of skill and tits. You are free to be active too, it was a nice feeling running my hands over her parts all slippery. I did some 69 with the girl here too. I know you picked 90 minutes and maybe that's best for you but I found in 70 minutes I could get 4 blowjobs (always no condom at soapland so far) and 2 bangs plus a chat in that time. Including about 15 minutes of nuru. If you feel you had enough of nuru, stop her at 10-20 minutes or whatever, make sure you do the main course when you feel like it. You are paying for time, you direct the action. Originally Posted by MatadorDfw1
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Some Kira Kira info
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FPZJmDsaAjvraKE6A Google Maps location of Kira Kira
https://kirakira.eroticguide.tokyo/ Kira Kira website for foreigners.
https://kirakira.yokohama/ Kira Kira website for Japanese.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2963459 Kira Kira mega guide (Yokohama).
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2963631 My first visit to Kira Kira.
Most guys want variety, but when you find a special winner it is nice to repeat. Have high standards. Sometimes the girl gets even better, sometimes you realize "it's just more of the same". You might even get her LINE and meet her OTC, just as if you met her through DH. Only do this for the most special girls, let's say the top 10% you'd be willing to see year after year. You'll notice soapland girls are simply cheaper than DH girls. DH girls have potential in other ways. Originally Posted by MatadorDfw1
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About Delivery Health negotiation, the language barrier is hardest. Normally I would always start 10,000 and act like it's not important. Even if she says 20,000 or 40,000 just give 15,000 or 20,000 as your final number. You can say that's all you can spend today, or she can finish you by mouth then hand as necessary. Be pepared to walk, knowing another girl will do it for that. For example, your soapland girl at Kira Kira was hotter and better and did everything included with zero tip. To a DH girl, 20,000 is way more than 0. Obviously language barrier, nervousness, and having to negotiate halfway are barriers. Experience will help.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...29#post2979529 DH negotiation
I learned to negotiate through City of Industry strip clubs where you can bang just like DH. Here is an example from a few weeks ago:
So what luck, I walked into a COI club and immediately discovered White Bona. Team Seven material there. Just wrong race and definite body over face. She gets on stage, and I know how it is - nobody goes to the tip rail because COI is full of cheap bums. But I know how to get things done at a strip club. I go up and toss some 1s. Just five is enough, then I lean forward for it. I'm the only guy so she pretty much has to wave her pussy inches from my face. Happily mind you, easiest thing in the world for these girls it's their sell chance for the main course. Mmmm Hmmm, white pussy is the cure for white fever. The stage is very well lit mind you, so I get a real good look when she was an inch from my nose asking if I want more. So I decide, this is the best pussy I've seen in a long time. Which is quite a statement coming from me. I know this is a petting zoo, but I have to negotiate for things later, so I make a tactical retreat. I pull back early and go to my seat with the others, even though her stage hasn't finished yet. Like I wasn't that interested. Makes negotiation later a snap.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7168634 See photos of girl at bottom of post
If a girl knew 15K was all you had left in your wallet, she would take the offer. In the same way, she will use excuses to ask for more money if she thinks you have it.
Conclusion
I've said before I suggest every Japan beginner start at oppai pubs and Kira Kira soapland. Because chances are good you see high level looks at the oppai pubs for cheap, high level service at Kira Kira for cheap. Then when some DH girl plays hardball on negotiation, you know their worth, you have your standards. You know they are asking for 2 Kira Kira girls worth of money if not more. You know they would literally not even be allowed to work at an oppai pub.
If you don't mind reading, I would start here in order:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2966012 Japan Guides
Attached are photos of Ai and KK info from their website. They are also Korean and Chinese friendly. Apparently if you become a member, they waive the 5000 yen foreigner tax in the future and even give you a punch card.
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