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[VictorHugo99]

Mr G,

Once again very impressed by the research based analysis for replying.

Great to see the better to regard the differences between the 2 cities.

Victor.

As usual, it depends. 😁. You don't say what your situation is and what your preferences are.

AC has cheaper girls, accommodation and food. Guys only go for one reason so time to nut is low as girls won't expect any games or prelim dates. Girls are available online, off the street, out in suburbia and, obviously, at the bars. 2 k shortimes are very doable. If your staying a long time, there is very little (nothing? To do besides drink, fuck and sleep but the airport does have good domestic connections to other far more interesting areas. Descriptions of AC as a shithole are very accurate.

Manila is huge so let's define the discussion to the areas popular with foreigners. It's a chaotic mess. Having a girl to come see you from the other side of town can easily be a several hours exercise. Everything is more expensive than AC when comparing like for like. Some bars and girls eyewateringly so. 2 k would be really limiting your options. Lots of nice areas to stay and a lot to see and do when not fucking. Everywhere has ugly and pretty girls but the cream of the crop follow the money and end up in Manila. You are also far more likely to find an absolute stunner simply walking down the street or in a shop buying groceries. Manila airport has connections to everywhere and often multiple flights per day.

[PhilJoy]

Got to love this place.
The land of sweet brown nipples and the immaculate vagina.
_ Phil.

"Immaculate" may be a bit of a stretch. Especially when we're done with them.

Kenji me old mate.

It's remarkable how they all bounce back into perfect condition.

Never had a dodgy vag in The Phils and I must say, there's been a few of them.

Additionally, tits have never been my priority, even with Western women.

Ie: Size has never really mattered, as long as they've got them and they're not fake.

But to me, there's just something about the stiff brown nips of a Filipina.

I just can't put finger on it.

Right at this moment _ Phil.

[Goferring]

Goferring, do you think Manila is better or Pampanga is best to use as a base station for fun? I have been to Pampanga prior to 2018 but from all the reading here about AC. I won't waste money in AC bars for 5's and 6's. I am leaning on trying out Manila. But concerned the offer of 1500 or 2000 pesos might work better in Pampanga area? Yeah I know I could simply change hotels. But curious about your opinions. And if others want to chime in- cool! I have in the past used PinaLove and Tinder. From the way I discern Angeles City (Pampanga) area. Lots of ladies are simply not wanting to be Stuck at bar. And prefer to be freelancers.

As usual, it depends. 😁. You don't say what your situation is and what your preferences are.

AC has cheaper girls, accommodation and food. Guys only go for one reason so time to nut is low as girls won't expect any games or prelim dates. Girls are available online, off the street, out in suburbia and, obviously, at the bars. 2 k shortimes are very doable. If your staying a long time, there is very little (nothing? To do besides drink, fuck and sleep but the airport does have good domestic connections to other far more interesting areas. Descriptions of AC as a shithole are very accurate.

Manila is huge so let's define the discussion to the areas popular with foreigners. It's a chaotic mess. Having a girl to come see you from the other side of town can easily be a several hours exercise. Everything is more expensive than AC when comparing like for like. Some bars and girls eyewateringly so. 2 k would be really limiting your options. Lots of nice areas to stay and a lot to see and do when not fucking. Everywhere has ugly and pretty girls but the cream of the crop follow the money and end up in Manila. You are also far more likely to find an absolute stunner simply walking down the street or in a shop buying groceries. Manila airport has connections to everywhere and often multiple flights per day.

Why not visit both, allow some flexibility in your bookings, and stay where ever you like the most?

I should emphasise that I don't hang out at gogos any more, dislike AC and haven't been back for years so I might be biased.

Having said that: if I only had a few days, I wouldn't even leave Manila; if I had more time then I would include AC and stay longer if I liked it.

Enjoy. G.

[GentileBear]

Goferring, do you think Manila is better or Pampanga is best to use as a base station for fun? I have been to Pampanga prior to 2018 but from all the reading here about AC. I won't waste money in AC bars for 5's and 6's. I am leaning on trying out Manila. But concerned the offer of 1500 or 2000 pesos might work better in Pampanga area? Yeah I know I could simply change hotels. But curious about your opinions. And if others want to chime in- cool! I have in the past used PinaLove and Tinder. From the way I discern Angeles City (Pampanga) area. Lots of ladies are simply not wanting to be Stuck at bar. And prefer to be freelancers.

[Goferring]

At what point do you stop the analysis and technical shit and just buy a burger and eat it? Dude has to be an engineer or statistician. I know one board member who is an engineer, and after his trips he compiles all these stats. Hell, I can't even remember the names of the chicks I fucked.

I remember a poster who had been preparing for a trip for months, chatting to girls online, getting details and planning dates. He built a massive spreadsheet of times vs names, prioritised by looks with backup plans A to Z should girls flake, arrive late or be Godzilla.

I think I'm the end he fucked maybe two girls over two weeks.

I prefer to just arrive and start messaging. The first to knock on my door wins 1000 peso. If they are fun, then they get to come back again.

Enjoy. G.

[Old And Ugly]

I am not so nice with it. I rub it in and make them feel ashamed for trying to pull some bullshit. I especially would not give them money for wasting my time.

I know that I'm nice when I don't supposed to be, but I'm just thinking how desperate they must be and I don't want to put them down more than they are already, few dollars doesn't mean nothing to me, and my time is already wasted. To top it off I must say that also I'm not the confrontational type, and now that I'm old I try to avoid embarrassing situations where yelling may be involved.

[KenjiYoshioka]

Got to love this place.

The land of sweet brown nipples and the immaculate vagina.

_ Phil.

"Immaculate" may be a bit of a stretch. Especially when we're done with them.

[PhilJoy]

Got to love this place.

The land of sweet brown nipples and the immaculate vagina.

_ Phil.

[Mr Enternational]

Have you considered that you may be slightly overthinking things? Just a little?

I'm just having a good time getting laid.

LOL. The beef at McDonald's is 90% lean while the beef at Burger King is 80% lean. At Burger King they tend to flame grill which locks in the flavor from the fat. At McDonald's they have a special sauce in which they have combined mayo, ketchup, relish, and Worcestershire.

At what point do you stop the analysis and technical shit and just buy a burger and eat it? Dude has to be an engineer or statistician. I know one board member who is an engineer, and after his trips he compiles all these stats. Hell, I can't even remember the names of the chicks I fucked.

[Mr Enternational]

Ooo, I always do, and I do it in a nice deceptive way, so they may take it as I'm into the ladyboys, and answer truthfully: "you look gorgeous, are you a ladyboy by any chance?" , also I do the videocall, but still, I want to see the goods before letting them into my room. I'm a very nice guy, and even if they don't meet the standards, I refuse them nicely, making up some excuse, and give them few hundred peso for the trouble, you never know how you may run into them, or their friends in the future.

I am not so nice with it. I rub it in and make them feel ashamed for trying to pull some bullshit. I especially would not give them money for wasting my time.

[Old And Ugly]

Why not just ask if they are bakla and videocall to see if someone looks totally different in reality? That would save you time and money.

Ooo, I always do, and I do it in a nice deceptive way, so they may take it as I'm into the ladyboys, and answer truthfully: "you look gorgeous, are you a ladyboy by any chance?" , also I do the videocall, but still, I want to see the goods before letting them into my room. I'm a very nice guy, and even if they don't meet the standards, I refuse them nicely, making up some excuse, and give them few hundred peso for the trouble, you never know how you may run into them, or their friends in the future.

[Goferring]

In Thailand, the rules are fairly well-defined in the pay-for-play market but, in The Philippines, one is dealing with a 65%-higher population (115 m vs. 70 m, in just 42% of the Thais' land): quite-poor women just seeking a meal-ticket / ATM in life. The ageless saying: "Men want a woman's first love; women want a man's last love" & Professor Dawkins' 'The Selfish Gene', highlight the disparity between male and female behavioural directives.

Although there is a spectrum of hooker-to-harlot-to-hopefuls, they are all fundamentally seeking the economic security of permanent relationships. Time works relentlessly against them: Asian men consider women over 25, who are still single, to be potentially-poor marriage material. After age 30, there is a distinct loss-of-attractiveness, especially in mothers.

So, what do we have to offer for the puki? Certainly not marriage in a no-divorce country, with imprisonment for adultery! Meals, gifts, money, some attention (mostly sexual); possibly a mixed-race child to a single mother. Hardly the objectives of their dreams and long-term support imperatives. For guys with a conscience, it is a bit of a conundrum. I personally don't expel any wrigglies to worsen the country's overpopulation problem and, contrary to most nationalities, Filipinas are mostly okay with that, if a supportive relationship is present.

It is very easy to play the field, especially with provincial gals, whom amorous males could visit in endless rinse-and-repeat cycles across the republic, or merely in the capital. Actor Michael Caine (91), rhetorically asked in Alfie (1966, aged 32): 'What's it all about?" How do you reconcile male sexual imperative with females' desire for permanence? And what is fair compensation for their short, or long, time company?

Have you considered that you may be slightly overthinking things? Just a little?

I'm just having a good time getting laid.

Enjoy. G.

[Jarango]

I think it all comes down to what your intent is?

Having read positive reviews of it, I tried to watch Anora, a movie about a rich Rusisan kid (Xpartan?) who falls for a New York stripper. Do yourself a favour and miss this tripe, which is a cross between Pretty Woman and a bad report here. The start of it is good with the bored lap dancers milking the punters but, after that, it is tripe which Wikipedia informs us is "comedy / romance". Outside of some good boob jobs, I se no upsides Maybe it is me as guys falls for hookers with or without good boob jobs.

[Aml3740]

In Thailand, the rules are fairly well-defined in the pay-for-play market but, in The Philippines, one is dealing with a 65%-higher population (115 m vs. 70 m, in just 42% of the Thais' land): quite-poor women just seeking a meal-ticket / ATM in life. The ageless saying: "Men want a woman's first love; women want a man's last love" & Professor Dawkins' 'The Selfish Gene', highlight the disparity between male and female behavioural directives.

Although there is a spectrum of hooker-to-harlot-to-hopefuls, they are all fundamentally seeking the economic security of permanent relationships. Time works relentlessly against them: Asian men consider women over 25, who are still single, to be potentially-poor marriage material. After age 30, there is a distinct loss-of-attractiveness, especially in mothers.

So, what do we have to offer for the puki? Certainly not marriage in a no-divorce country, with imprisonment for adultery! Meals, gifts, money, some attention (mostly sexual); possibly a mixed-race child to a single mother. Hardly the objectives of their dreams and long-term support imperatives. For guys with a conscience, it is a bit of a conundrum. I personally don't expel any wrigglies to worsen the country's overpopulation problem and, contrary to most nationalities, Filipinas are mostly okay with that, if a supportive relationship is present.

It is very easy to play the field, especially with provincial gals, whom amorous males could visit in endless rinse-and-repeat cycles across the republic, or merely in the capital. Actor Michael Caine (91), rhetorically asked in Alfie (1966, aged 32): 'What's it all about?" How do you reconcile male sexual imperative with females' desire for permanence? And what is fair compensation for their short, or long, time company?

I think it all comes down to what your intent is? If you are just wanting sex with someone who is selling it, then that is what it is. Most women know about condoms and birth control and have the choice to insist on using it or not. As does the man. If she doesn't use it and gets pregnant, then that is on her. For every man that would turn her down for wanting to use a condom, there is one who wouldn't turn her down. But, contrary to what some people think, fucking a hooker (or even taking her out for dinner and an activity before fucking her) isn't a date. Some YouTuber has a whole series about dating a bar girl. How to get her to go out with you for bar fine, etc. That isn't dating!

If you want a relationship with a girl, then treat it like a relationship. But don't fake it just to fuck her, especially when it is so cheap to find a lady for a couple thousand pesos if that's all you want. When you pay a prostitute, you pay them for their time, but you also pay them so they go away; it's part of the game. But it isn't like this for a relationship. That's about giving your time, care, and attention. It's not just sex. I'm blessed with two awesome Filipinas who are about a real relationship, and I have children with both. Of course money becomes part of that equation then, like it does in any relationship. But, as one should be in a relationship, I was careful before committing to either woman. Both women are too proud to rely on just me. In fact, the second one wanted nothing at all. I had to convince her to let me help some with building our house, and then opening a bank account to put money up to save for our child. And she sends me picture of her account balance each month just to show that she isn't using that money.

[Mr Enternational]

Fair compensation will be different per gent, the same way that beauty is different for each gent. You or I might think that both 2000 and 2500 are both reasonable or fair amounts for a given time with a given girl. But to her, one of those numbers is a 25% increase over the other (or a 20% drop).

Fair is what you agree on with the woman. The other day I had a chick at Manila Bay Cafe (or whatever it is called these days) first try to get me for 4000, then 3500. In the end, it turned out that 2000 was actually fair compensation.