Bangkok Reports

[Werqweq]

Yup, it doesn't bring you respect or better service, it just makes you an easy mark. And yes, I'm and American but after a couple of decades here I'm well acquainted with local tipping culture, and yes there is a local tipping culture but they are small tips. I've never tipped a BG over the agreed price or tipped at any oily. Soapies, a different story where a few hundred baht is what the locals do. Want to tip the papasan or the mamasan? 20 Baht is fine. Local restaurants, 20 baht to the wait staff in parking attendant is much appreciated.

I'll never forget one of my first visits to Phnom Penh in 2000. On the first night I saw a dude that I had met in Bangkok 6 months before and he literally grabbed me and said, this is what you pay, not more, are you all ruin it for the rest of us. Well, for the most part in many venues in Bangkok it has been ruined for the rest of us. Oilies and online none withstanding. And when I talk about online I mean the local pond not the Foreigner pond.

Good luck you met that guy, and even better you were intelligent enough to take the advice.
Look at some of the people here now? Even getting their panties in a wad instead of taking some good advice from the people who've been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Me-me-me-me.

[Werqweq]

Well at 430 AM walking around, the lizard brain starts thinking, hmmm maybe I do have one more shot in me?

I tried to show some street girls what I wanted on Google translate: shower together, 1 HR massage, body to body, BJ without condom.

One girl said no BJ without condom. Another, who literally 10 minutes earlier was trying to flag me down to sit for a drink, got strangely standoff-ish. She had excellent English. Suddenly she didn't like my vibe, thought I was a scammer, and quoted 300 USD.

Well, that's not working.

Across from Nana it was very sparse but one Vietnamese girl (Dee) caught my eye. I just said, Hi, 1 HR massage? And things clicked from there.

There are a few things puzzling me:

1 - This is I believe the third girl who agreed to kissing beforehand but in the room it was very minimal though. Somehow I have not found the right screening for this.

2 - Another theme: any precum and OK! Time for the condom! Girls that have agreed to condom no BJ abort when there is a * * *SEMEN SIGHTING* * *! Red alert! The tip is a little wet. Condom! Again, I am not sure how to handle this.

3 - These freelance girls say 1 HR which seems to mean after you are banging them for 15 minutes they start telling you to cum. This is kind of a turn off and I'm not sure if others have dealt with this somehow?

But regardless, even with these annoyances, having sex with a cute 25 year old Vietnamese girl was a good thing.

Maybe you need to tip more?

[JoshAllen]

Well at 430 AM walking around, the lizard brain starts thinking, hmmm maybe I do have one more shot in me?

I tried to show some street girls what I wanted on Google translate: shower together, 1 HR massage, body to body, BJ without condom.

One girl said no BJ without condom. Another, who literally 10 minutes earlier was trying to flag me down to sit for a drink, got strangely standoff-ish. She had excellent English. Suddenly she didn't like my vibe, thought I was a scammer, and quoted 300 USD.

Well, that's not working.

Across from Nana it was very sparse but one Vietnamese girl (Dee) caught my eye. I just said, Hi, 1 HR massage? And things clicked from there.

There are a few things puzzling me:

1 - This is I believe the third girl who agreed to kissing beforehand but in the room it was very minimal though. Somehow I have not found the right screening for this.

2 - Another theme: any precum and OK! Time for the condom! Girls that have agreed to condom no BJ abort when there is a * * *SEMEN SIGHTING* * *! Red alert! The tip is a little wet. Condom! Again, I am not sure how to handle this.

3 - These freelance girls say 1 HR which seems to mean after you are banging them for 15 minutes they start telling you to cum. This is kind of a turn off and I'm not sure if others have dealt with this somehow?

But regardless, even with these annoyances, having sex with a cute 25 year old Vietnamese girl was a good thing.

[EihTooms]

Thermae success
To minimize board clutter, let me say a collective thanks for all the feedback and help.

I have continued going to Thermae. 1st time I circled around once, couldn't find a spot to sit or lean so as to get off the merry go round, and left.

Last night I found a spot at the central island to lean against. A girl came up and chatted with me. I wasn't really interested, so I wished her well. Walked out again.

Tonight I sat at a table with these rather gruff, old Asian dudes with a spare seat. I looked around for a while and saw a girl I had seen the night before. Both times she gave me a very warm smile. After twiddling my thumbs for about 5 minutes I got up, walked over, and we exchanged names. Then I just asked if she was ready to get out of there. Yes, she said. She then said oh wait. 3000 1 hour? OK sure, and we took a tuk tuk to my Airbnb.

Dao was definitely a cutie. 26, short, very thick long hair, be cups, petite frame but a little junk in her trunk. Very soft features and endearing eyes. She was dressed like a college girl. Sports bra and baggy white cargo pants. Her whole body had the slightest extra layer of fat all over, making her very squeezable, but certainly not fat or even plump.

The deed itself did not disappoint. More kissing and DFK would have made it better, but not a deal breaker. She wasn't up for no condom. But overall a good session. She was responsive in a non-fake sort of way. Who knows? Nothing major to report except she *too* was more than fine with DATY / A w / FIV / A haha. It's sort of a thing I can't resist if the pussy looks fresh.

Yes I tipped her.

Hoping I can build up to some of these girls that basically look like they could be in a K drama or some fashion magazine. I am still really scratching my head about people claiming low talent levels at Thermae. I guess I am just lucky that many of these women are my "ideal type". I am strongly considering an older woman at one point just to test those waters too.

On another note, I later hit up Rainbow 4 and 5. Could have been my vibe perhaps, but it was just OK. Plenty of hot girls but felt like very few showed signs of interest. These places were filled with 90% Asian clientele I'd say. Many girls didn't seem to want to be there. And not really a wild scene. A few lap dances here and there. Not a bawdy, raucous affair 😐. I was very interested in some of these girls though. The absolute hottest ones couldn't be bothered it seemed. That was their vibe. A few showed some chemistry though. I will try again.

I agree with you about the general quality of the Freelancers in Thermae. At least based on physical appearance only and, specifically, how they look fully clothed. If there is a better looking collection of 2,500 - 4,000 baht FLs to be found in one room somewhere else in Bangkok I have yet to find it and would like to hear about it. Is it possible that there were few or no notably attractive girls between 8:15 pm and 8:43 pm on June 14,2022 or some such thing, sure, that is possible. But on any night there are always plenty of girls in Thermae that 99% of heterosexual males on the planet would fuck with gusto and want to fuck with gusto in a nanosecond if given the chance.

But there are major hurdles to getting the right vibe and encouragement to go for it in Thermae. Paramount to someone like me being which if ANY of the good looking girls in this room will be agreeable to BBFSCIP with me in my room for a reasonable amount of money. Let's say less than 10,000 baht for a ST.

LOL. And, yeah, I have been refused for that kind of Real Sex for almost that much baht with girls from that place after "going with the flow" and foolishly not getting an upfront agreement for it at the bar or to otherwise thank them for their time and moving on to another girl or, better, another venue.

The ongoing hurdle in Thermae for that purpose or for anything other than to ask "How Much, For How Long and For How Many Pops", the answers to none of which are factors I give a damn about, is that Thermae is the absolute worst environment in which to conduct a simple 3 question and answer negotiation for anything other than those three price, time and number of pops questions.

But you seem to be happy and capable of fucking and finishing wearing a condom. I envy that. As long as that is the case Thailand in general and Thermae in particular truly is a "sexual paradise". Other than 2-3 fringe issues like Anal and 3-Somes, getting a notably good looking young girl to agree to BBFSCIP and / or BBBJCIM+Swallow are the only P4 P challenges in all of Thailand.

Unless you happen to be a truly grusome specimen with horrific heigiene problems or the girl is truly obsessed with only accepting customers from an ethnic group that you are not from, I don't think any girl in Thermae or anywhere else in Thailand would balk at going with you for a ST of basic covered FS at whatever the going rate is in that particular venue.

I can't imagine that being any challenge at all. It sure has never seemed that way to me. As an almost 72 year old farang, my impression has always been that virtually every girl in Thermae and in the top gogo bars would be perfectly fine with going with me for a session IF the only things I cared about were "How Much, For How Long and For How Many Pops. ".

Sadly, none of the answers to those questions matter one whit to me. Only the answers to 2-3 other questions matter to me. And a shoulder-to-shoulder Thermae line up is probably the worst place in Thailand to ask any one of those 2-3 questions and expect a positive response. For now.

[Sam Sanuk]

Made contact via the Jaumo dating app, I later found out that she also has a profile on thaifriendly! She is 18, and will be 19 in July. I offered her 2k for S/T and she readily agreed.

Credit is due to the poster for providing a pictorial report that is too lacking in the Thailand forums (in my opinion). Poster named where he found her, price, and where anybody interested might be able to arrange a session. Even though the poster went to the trouble to obscure possible identifying artifacts, all were able to get a good idea of what he scored.

Sam.

[Nyezhov]

Yup, it doesn't bring you respect or better service, it just makes you an easy mark. And yes, I'm and American but after a couple of decades here I'm well acquainted with local tipping culture, and yes there is a local tipping culture but they are small tips. I've never tipped a BG over the agreed price or tipped at any oily. Soapies, a different story where a few hundred baht is what the locals do. Want to tip the papasan or the mamasan? 20 Baht is fine. Local restaurants, 20 baht to the wait staff in parking attendant is much appreciated.

I'll never forget one of my first visits to Phnom Penh in 2000. On the first night I saw a dude that I had met in Bangkok 6 months before and he literally grabbed me and said, this is what you pay, not more, are you all ruin it for the rest of us. Well, for the most part in many venues in Bangkok it has been ruined for the rest of us. Oilies and online none withstanding. And when I talk about online I mean the local pond not the Foreigner pond.

Another poster here referred to long-term expats is jaded. Well, I'll tell you when ST was 500-1 k, BF was 500, beer was 80 Baht and LDs were 100 with an exchange rate of 45 to 1, and there were way more gals and way fewer punters then the pressure for good service was much higher. During my first few years here it was pretty much par for the course that while you were taking a shower she pulled your clothes and straighten your room, and if she took a shower before you your toothbrush would already be ready for you in the bathroom. It was a sales pitch. The majority of gals then didn't want sponsors, they wanted long-term partners. Now with the insane money some of these gals make the thought of a long-term relationship doesn't enter their mind until they're close to or past their sell-by date.

Yes, I'm sure for a newbie who has been trapped in the west, especially america, with very few prospects, Bangkok is wonderful now, but you can't expect those of us who experienced what it was like a quarter of a century ago to celebrate what we have now.

Thank god real wisdom is returning here. Thanks Goat.

[Goatscrot]

Keep your USA sh*t in the US man, don't bring that in your bag to Asia.

You don't need to tip mamasan 500 baht, 50 or 100 baht should be enough (and only if your doing some repeats in the same place, with the same mamasan coming to you). Otherwise you're just throwing money away for nothing. Obviously the girl (and everybody else) sees what a big fat tip you gave to mama, so naturally she will expect one too, and next time everybody will come over you and request some tip. If you refuse later on, you'll be called a stinky man.

Yup, it doesn't bring you respect or better service, it just makes you an easy mark. And yes, I'm and American but after a couple of decades here I'm well acquainted with local tipping culture, and yes there is a local tipping culture but they are small tips. I've never tipped a BG over the agreed price or tipped at any oily. Soapies, a different story where a few hundred baht is what the locals do. Want to tip the papasan or the mamasan? 20 Baht is fine. Local restaurants, 20 baht to the wait staff in parking attendant is much appreciated.

I'll never forget one of my first visits to Phnom Penh in 2000. On the first night I saw a dude that I had met in Bangkok 6 months before and he literally grabbed me and said, this is what you pay, not more, are you all ruin it for the rest of us. Well, for the most part in many venues in Bangkok it has been ruined for the rest of us. Oilies and online none withstanding. And when I talk about online I mean the local pond not the Foreigner pond.

Another poster here referred to long-term expats is jaded. Well, I'll tell you when ST was 500-1 k, BF was 500, beer was 80 Baht and LDs were 100 with an exchange rate of 45 to 1, and there were way more gals and way fewer punters then the pressure for good service was much higher. During my first few years here it was pretty much par for the course that while you were taking a shower she pulled your clothes and straighten your room, and if she took a shower before you your toothbrush would already be ready for you in the bathroom. It was a sales pitch. The majority of gals then didn't want sponsors, they wanted long-term partners. Now with the insane money some of these gals make the thought of a long-term relationship doesn't enter their mind until they're close to or past their sell-by date.

Yes, I'm sure for a newbie who has been trapped in the west, especially america, with very few prospects, Bangkok is wonderful now, but you can't expect those of us who experienced what it was like a quarter of a century ago to celebrate what we have now.

[JoshAllen]

To minimize board clutter, let me say a collective thanks for all the feedback and help.

I have continued going to Thermae. 1st time I circled around once, couldn't find a spot to sit or lean so as to get off the merry go round, and left.

Last night I found a spot at the central island to lean against. A girl came up and chatted with me. I wasn't really interested, so I wished her well. Walked out again.

Tonight I sat at a table with these rather gruff, old Asian dudes with a spare seat. I looked around for a while and saw a girl I had seen the night before. Both times she gave me a very warm smile. After twiddling my thumbs for about 5 minutes I got up, walked over, and we exchanged names. Then I just asked if she was ready to get out of there. Yes, she said. She then said oh wait. 3000 1 hour? OK sure, and we took a tuk tuk to my Airbnb.

Dao was definitely a cutie. 26, short, very thick long hair, be cups, petite frame but a little junk in her trunk. Very soft features and endearing eyes. She was dressed like a college girl. Sports bra and baggy white cargo pants. Her whole body had the slightest extra layer of fat all over, making her very squeezable, but certainly not fat or even plump.

The deed itself did not disappoint. More kissing and DFK would have made it better, but not a deal breaker. She wasn't up for no condom. But overall a good session. She was responsive in a non-fake sort of way. Who knows? Nothing major to report except she *too* was more than fine with DATY / A w / FIV / A haha. It's sort of a thing I can't resist if the pussy looks fresh.

Yes I tipped her.

Hoping I can build up to some of these girls that basically look like they could be in a K drama or some fashion magazine. I am still really scratching my head about people claiming low talent levels at Thermae. I guess I am just lucky that many of these women are my "ideal type". I am strongly considering an older woman at one point just to test those waters too.

On another note, I later hit up Rainbow 4 and 5. Could have been my vibe perhaps, but it was just OK. Plenty of hot girls but felt like very few showed signs of interest. These places were filled with 90% Asian clientele I'd say. Many girls didn't seem to want to be there. And not really a wild scene. A few lap dances here and there. Not a bawdy, raucous affair 😐. I was very interested in some of these girls though. The absolute hottest ones couldn't be bothered it seemed. That was their vibe. A few showed some chemistry though. I will try again.

[PgReal]

Thanks, having gone through these two MP experiences (1 w / o a line up, 1 out of 2 with iPad a bust), I don't think I am likely to let them happen again. I like the idea of demanding the line-up instead of the iPad. No, not shy with a business owner haha, just hot women. I think in general I have been a bit on sensory overload here so a few times things have just caught me by surprise. Things that definitely in the US I would have handled differently. I have straight up demanded my money back after a provider took off her clothes and I got a whiff of her stench from 5 feet away LOL. Also from MPs where 2 girls in a row were giving a lackluster massage. Just need to get me legs under me here I guess. I will return to Thermae nightly until I settle in.

If anyone can explain how they handle clinging gogo bar girls that you're not interested in, I would appreciate that. I am not a seasoned strip club pro.

I think the easiest way if you are shy or rather say respectful and don't like saying no. Is to look at your wallet the morning after and count all the wasted money. You'll soon cop on and learn to say no firmly but nicely. Just think about your hard earned Dollars or Baht blowing in the wind every time a girl you don't fancy approaches you.

[PgReal]

Of course. We each brought a lawyer to the meet and I had her sign a 15-page legal contract giving me permission to take and post her photos..

The very first thing that entered my head when I saw your original post was 'that's bang out of order and totally inappropriate', it doesn't take much to show a little respect mate. What really surprises me is that the Mods allowed it and didn't take it down. But then again they are so inconsistent in their policies or asleep half the time.

[Steve 9696]

At joshallen. Been loving your reports. Seeing Bangkok thru the eyes of a newbie is so much fun. It drives me crazy how jaded some guys on this board are. Nana is indeed one of the Wonders of the World. And the camel toe parade at Billboard when they wear white bikinis on the carousel not to be missed. Great job just living the dream.

Got to say this is one of the best one liners in recent years. Literally LOL and yeah. 💯.

" just walk up and down the Nana Plaza street 3 times and you feel like a total, unstoppable Chad LOL. ".

PS Tip of the day. At Billboard sit at the revolving stage. U don’t have to make any eye contact unless u want to. U can just watch the parade of pussy and stripper heels go by. Sigh. It’s sooooo good.

[Paolo99]

Maybe if I were a BKK resident I would balk at what I paid. Compared to my current situation it's insane though. Having 2 hot strippers all over you (would have to be in VIP), drinks, lap dances x 30 min, taking one home OTC, BBBJ, BBFS. You are talking $1500-2000 in USA major cities these days no lie. So no regrets.

Once I have some Thermae success I will report on that as well.

Keep your USA sh*t in the US man, don't bring that in your bag to Asia.

You don't need to tip mamasan 500 baht, 50 or 100 baht should be enough (and only if your doing some repeats in the same place, with the same mamasan coming to you). Otherwise you're just throwing money away for nothing. Obviously the girl (and everybody else) sees what a big fat tip you gave to mama, so naturally she will expect one too, and next time everybody will come over you and request some tip. If you refuse later on, you'll be called a stinky man.

[Mdemde]

Did you tell her you were going to post nude pictures of her all over the internet?

Of course. We each brought a lawyer to the meet and I had her sign a 15-page legal contract giving me permission to take and post her photos.

Next question.

[UglyAzzMan]

Buying a drink for a girl you want no part 0 f?

Sounds like ET Strategy. Hahaha.

[JoshAllen]

OK an update. Tonight (Monday) I noticed less action on the streets (as I had read) but certainly not dead. I was tempted by a few encounters but nothing that made me pull the trigger.

Walked into Geisha, was seated in front of the soapy girls (2 thumbs up for that situation for sure) and bought a drink. This time when randos or mamasans were approaching me to buy drinks etc, I said "Thanks, a little later. " That seemed to work. After about 15 minutes there was a stage rotation and a girl on stage with whom I had exchanged smiles a few times swooped in. Actually her and her friend.

I was not complaining. Both had very tight little bods and we're plenty cute. It was a little crazy how much they were grinding and grabbing me, making me touch their tits and pushing my hand into their panties. They were clearly a little drunk. I ended up getting them both 2 drinks. A while later the waitress too. It was a solid 30 minutes of this. Both gave me some light tongue action.

Other girls were trying to join the party LOL. I just laughed and said no just 2 for now! With a grin. They tried their darnedest, also grabbing at me, but finally gave up.

In the end I bar fined the first girl, named Ja. The whole thing certainly wasn't cheap but dang it was good. Beyond the bar experience, my time with her was excellent. She was very pliant. After a little weirdness (her wanting to shower alone in privacy. Okayyy) all was good. After the towels came off, immediate DFK. Very responsive. DATY was very fresh. Plenty of BBBJ then 69. Next she was on top of me, we're kissing, and I gently slide in bareback. She seemed into it. Not the slightest talk of condoms.

Finished on her belly although maybe she would have been OK with something else? It didn't come up and I just made a game time decision haha.

I really feel the alcohol is a key factor as I think I read ET mention once.

I definitely want to see her friend too (#302).

Price was 3000 to her, 1000 bar fine, 1200 for drinks, 500 tip for her friend, 500 tip to mamasan. I never felt overly pressured for the tip amounts, but made the choice myself. They were good people. I decided I was going to barfine this girl and decided to totally go with the flow about cost and tipping.

After the deed Ja and I connected our LINE accounts and I walked her to the elevator. 5 minutes later I realized I had forgotten to tip her. Messaged her. She was still downstairs. Came down and gave 1000.

Maybe if I were a BKK resident I would balk at what I paid. Compared to my current situation it's insane though. Having 2 hot strippers all over you (would have to be in VIP), drinks, lap dances x 30 min, taking one home OTC, BBBJ, BBFS. You are talking $1500-2000 in USA major cities these days no lie. So no regrets.

Once I have some Thermae success I will report on that as well.