Bangkok Reports

[JizzyB]

Taken services from 4 ladies in the picture. IYKYK.

[Safado70]

As I reported a couple days ago, I have one Nana Plaza mamasan who knows me well and knows exactly what I like. She brings recommended girls to me for my review and those girls are already prescreened for BBFSCIP.

I would like to know if other board members had similar success with mamasans. I always felt that most girls are hiding any possible BB practice from their peers and their mamasans. This is why I never even bothered to ask a mamasan.

[Nyezhov]

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[Sam Sanuk]

You suggest that I am not showing respect. Respect to whom? And in what way am I not showing respect?

Not my place to try to answer that question. But allow me to respectfully interject. LOL.

Sam.

[Nyezhov]

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[Mdemde]

Of course. We each brought a lawyer to the meet and I had her sign a 15-page legal contract giving me permission to take and post her photos.

Next question.

The very first thing that entered my head when I saw your original post was 'that's bang out of order and totally inappropriate', it doesn't take much to show a little respect mate. What really surprises me is that the Mods allowed it and didn't take it down. But then again they are so inconsistent in their policies or asleep half the time.

You mention my original post; are you referring to the one I made on 28 April in which I posted some pics? You think the mods should have taken it down?

I was then asked two follow-up questions and I replied to them (you quoted my second reply). You think the mods should have taken my replies down?

You suggest that I am not showing respect. Respect to whom? And in what way am I not showing respect?

[Goatscrot]

Thanks for this, and this does tend to be my energy if there are shenanigans back home. I will play hardball. I guess here there is a sense of limited time and opportunity so settling a bit. I might give this a try once to see how it goes. It does really piss me off that they agree then back out, but as a stranger in a strange land, I guess I am feeling a little less assertive.

Just keep your cool, smile, and emphasize that you don't want her to do anything that she doesn't want to do, but it's not what was agreed upon and you are not satisfied. But those clothes on leave a few hundred baht and head out.

[JoshAllen]

And on the rare occasion when that nonsense started, I would simply get up and start to put on my clothes. Gal would ask me what was wrong, and I would tell her straight up in Thai that I expected her to do me like I was a boyfriend or she was in a "sex movie. " I would also stress to her that I did not want her to do anything she was uncomfortable with and that if she was uncomfortable with what I wanted to do we would stop right now and I would pay her less than the agreed upon price.

Thanks for this, and this does tend to be my energy if there are shenanigans back home. I will play hardball. I guess here there is a sense of limited time and opportunity so settling a bit. I might give this a try once to see how it goes. It does really piss me off that they agree then back out, but as a stranger in a strange land, I guess I am feeling a little less assertive.

[JoshAllen]

Walked into Thermae last night and chatted with two women that had weird energy. Then met Bee. I confessed I was shy and she said "me too!" I then asked if she wanted to go be shy together and that was that. Very feminine and it was nice how she gently held my arm the whole walk back to my place. She was a little older (38) but looked early 30's to me.

It was a decent encounter. Probably BBBJ was the best part. Required condom for sex. I've decided to stop trying to negotiate this stuff on this trip and just go with the flow. Probably should get some of those Japanese condoms though (forget their name). It was good but I wasn't really moved to ask for contact info. Paid 3000.

Then today I checked Thai Friendly.

A profile just read "Massage". I pinged her and she was at my place in 1 HR. Quoted 2 HR "massage + BJ + sex" for 3000 baht. It was the best sex so far. She has a nerdy face, not the prettiest girl but full lips, super long hair and great attitude. She works locally in a legit MP. Very working class vibe and not high maintenance attitude. Slightly thick and nice round ass. Nice shape and curves, not overweight.

Started with basic oil massage and a good amount of teasing. Then flipped, more massage then pretty darn good BBBJ, 90% there with DT. Very sloppy and wet and didn't rush things. She would gag now and then and go back for more like a trooper. Asked if I could massage her and she was good with it. She had a very fertile scent.

Anyways long story short earlier on she asked, you have condom? But after the massage and a little foreplay I said should I get the condom?. . . Yes. I said I don't really need it though. . . She says. . . OK. Bingo! Good session. She seemed to let go and was moving for her, not me. *THATS* what I am looking for. We definitely clicked. Plenty of DFK. Asked if I could CIP but she asked me to pull out. OK, no prob. Still, best so far.

[EihTooms]

I definitely think strategic (for want of a better word) tipping does reap rewards. I'll admit even if I get great service off a girl in a shop or bar I rarely would seek the same girl out again, so I can't answer your specific question in detail. I enjoy the hunt of fresh pussy and a different experience even if it turns out underwhelming, it's always a punt!

But for example, tipping well to bar staff in Thermae, resulted in me being chaperoned on arrival to the top of the queue in subsequent nights. A tip to a mamasan resulted in her sitting down with me a few days later, advising me on which girl was best for this, best for that, asking me my preferences etc. I wasn't disappointed with the girl she chose for me, I wouldn't have picked her by just looking at her without the advice. And a final example, a good tip to night staff in my hotel was worth it's weight in gold, they couldn't do enough for me during my stay during the night when I'd be in and out with girls or having callers from TF etc.

I'm with Josh, if I get a good service off a girl, I'll give a good tip as a small gesture, it small change in Western society but can mean feeding their family in Thailand. I had part-timers from TF ask for no money, gave them 1,500 baht going home after a wonderful fuck session, the girl literally started crying with joy. Sure I would have paid double that for an average fuck for half the time out of thermae.

Strategic Tipping is not only a great term for it but employing it is also great for you, great for the market, great for improving Value For Money in the market, great for the girls who honestly want to make us happy and earn more money for it, great for our fellow punters, great for the next customer who chooses a girl who does get generously rewarded for providing what her customers want and if I happen to be her next customer it is great for me! LOL.

I see that is also the point of HorseTrader's post about rewarding mamasans for vetting the girls in their lineup at gogo bars for the BBFSCIP he wants and therefore he is happy to pay for it and tip well all around.

I do the same with mamasans in gogo bars. Try it, guys. In every bar with a mamasan you go to. Helping the customers connect with the girls in their lineup who would be willing and eager to deliver what that customer wants is or sure as hell should be the job of the mamasan, the reason they work there as mamasans instead of simply being a much older and fatter LadyDrink hustler in street clothes.

If they balk at doing their job in that way or hand you some blithering nonsense for not earning their pay with "I don't know. Up to the girl", ignore them, never tip them and, better yet, just walk out and go to another bar where a mamasan earns her pay. Duh. Of course it is "up to the girl", mama. We all know that. The concept is the mamasan is supposed to know which of her girls are known to provide one thing or another and which ones are known to do very little. And the mamasans will know these things about their girls.

And the added value of going about it this way through a mamasan who might have only been tipped 100-200 baht for the effort is the testimonial from a mamasan to her girls that "this is a good customer, he is not a scammer, he will pay you what he agrees to pay you and give you a tip if you make him happy so make him happy" carries much, much, much more weight coming from their mamasan than anything you as a foreign customer merely hoping you will be treated well in the room could ever carry with a hundred assurances over a couple of Lady Drinks.

A fellow punter posts a FR about a provider at a well known Happy Ending Massage Shop happily delivering the worst service he has ever experienced as though most of her previous customers had been handing her an extra 500-1000 baht tip for that kind of treatment. Which they probably had been doing just out of habit without really giving much thought to how that habitual behavior lowers the quality and value of a P4 P destination over time.

[Nyezhov]

Based on my personal experience, the answer is ABSOLUTELY YES! The reason I do it in Nana Plaza is to get better service tomorrow, the concept works. As I reported a couple days ago, I have one Nana Plaza mamasan who knows me well and knows exactly what I like. She brings recommended girls to me for my review and those girls are already prescreened for BBFSCIP. A year ago I had two Nana Plaza mamasans who treated me like this, now I only have one. I'm 100% sure that I get special treatment because of my history of tips, not because of my movie star good looks, sexy voice, 6-pack abs, conversation skills, nor my perfect fashion sense. It's not just great treatment in the bar, it is better treatment from the girl in the room.

If I walk into the bar next door, I am nobody. I start from scratch.

I expect nothing in return when I tip nice taxi drivers and restaurant staff. But those people help me enjoy life and I'm happy to make their lives a little better.

I tip in Thermae, Billboard and Rainbow and the downstairs Beer garden. I don't tip girls as a matter of course.

[Nyezhov]

Good luck you met that guy, and even better you were intelligent enough to take the advice.
Look at some of the people here now? Even getting their panties in a wad instead of taking some good advice from the people who've been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Me-me-me-me.

There has been a lot of mental illness demonstrated here since Covid.

[Goatscrot]

Well at 430 AM walking around, the lizard brain starts thinking, hmmm maybe I do have one more shot in me?

I tried to show some street girls what I wanted on Google translate: shower together, 1 HR massage, body to body, BJ without condom.

One girl said no BJ without condom. Another, who literally 10 minutes earlier was trying to flag me down to sit for a drink, got strangely standoff-ish. She had excellent English. Suddenly she didn't like my vibe, thought I was a scammer, and quoted 300 USD.

Well, that's not working.

Across from Nana it was very sparse but one Vietnamese girl (Dee) caught my eye. I just said, Hi, 1 HR massage? And things clicked from there.

There are a few things puzzling me:

1 - This is I believe the third girl who agreed to kissing beforehand but in the room it was very minimal though. Somehow I have not found the right screening for this.

2 - Another theme: any precum and OK! Time for the condom! Girls that have agreed to condom no BJ abort when there is a * * *SEMEN SIGHTING* * *! Red alert! The tip is a little wet. Condom! Again, I am not sure how to handle this.

3 - These freelance girls say 1 HR which seems to mean after you are banging them for 15 minutes they start telling you to cum. This is kind of a turn off and I'm not sure if others have dealt with this somehow?

But regardless, even with these annoyances, having sex with a cute 25 year old Vietnamese girl was a good thing.

The answer to several of your questions is because most of the punters except that type of behavior. 25 years ago I was about 75% freelance 25% bar. The gals I took from Thermae, Nana Disco, and the street for the most part all performed pretty well. Rarely had a problem with kissing and never had a problem with tissue wiping when precum appeared or a rush to put on a condom. And on the rare occasion when that nonsense started, I would simply get up and start to put on my clothes. Gal would ask me what was wrong, and I would tell her straight up in Thai that I expected her to do me like I was a boyfriend or she was in a "sex movie. " I would also stress to her that I did not want her to do anything she was uncomfortable with and that if she was uncomfortable with what I wanted to do we would stop right now and I would pay her less than the agreed upon price. Never had any type of anger or blow out in these situations because I was stressing that I did not want her to do anything she did not want to do, but in turn when she was doing was not up to my standards.

And stated above, this was a very rare occurrence my first seven or so years here. But towards the late 00's it became more common and at that point I switched to 100% PSE oilies and was very fortunate to be able to hit the golden days of Tulip, Mango, SW, and Cherry. Miguel's working in those places back then were far better looking than the gals working there now and all pure filth. Sometimes you would look down and you couldn't believe what you were doing with a girl that good looking. Towards the mid 10's a plethora of oily places began to open and competition for good looking talent among the mama sons became very intense, so intense that many shops dropped performance standards significantly in order to attract better looking girls to their shop. And guess what? It worked. Talent levels at the PSE places began to drop. And have continued to drop to this day. The combination of looks and incredible performance which was so readily available is now really a unicorn.

[HorseTrader]

But as an ISG member hoping to learn something of a P4P nature from field reports here, my question is; did the generous tipping to mamasans, the servers, the staff, giving extra money beyond the amount agreed upon to the girl improve upon the P4P experience for you in a subsequent visit to the venue or the next session with a girl?

Based on my personal experience, the answer is ABSOLUTELY YES! The reason I do it in Nana Plaza is to get better service tomorrow, the concept works. As I reported a couple days ago, I have one Nana Plaza mamasan who knows me well and knows exactly what I like. She brings recommended girls to me for my review and those girls are already prescreened for BBFSCIP. A year ago I had two Nana Plaza mamasans who treated me like this, now I only have one. I'm 100% sure that I get special treatment because of my history of tips, not because of my movie star good looks, sexy voice, 6-pack abs, conversation skills, nor my perfect fashion sense. It's not just great treatment in the bar, it is better treatment from the girl in the room.

If I walk into the bar next door, I am nobody. I start from scratch.

I expect nothing in return when I tip nice taxi drivers and restaurant staff. But those people help me enjoy life and I'm happy to make their lives a little better.

[StillFun]

Sunday night after arriving in Bangkok from a long haul flight I went out along Sukhumvit from Nana end eastwards looking for a girl. I vaguely remember talking to someone and I have this barely a memory in my head of thinking 'why am I not taking her to my hotel? But this could be a false memory. Anyway next thing I remember coming too outside sat down somewhere about 4 am. I don't even remember where. It took me about 2 hours to get back to my hotel at 6 am though I don't think I walked that far. But I did sit drinking a cold drink from an all night shop for about an hour after I came to. Anyway what is strange and good is I had still had my phone, both my cards (nothing debited) but about 4000 baht missing from my wallet though about 200 were left in it. I can make little sense of the whole. I am just counting my blessings. Any thoughts?