Sao Paulo Reports

[Kazeu]

I wish you could use Facebook to meet girls in Brazil. I've never heard of anyone successfully meeting a random girl off facebook for P2 P in Brazil. There is no place in the world quite like Medellin with its facebook P2 P culture. Even in other cities in Colombia, the "Facebook scene" is non existent. For Brazil, MP has more girls, there are scams everywhere, got to be careful, doesn't matter the platform.

Hey guys, Am preparing for my upcoming first Sao Paulo trip, and I know most of you will say that I don't need to go this route of trying to line up girls online, but I like to do that usually for most of my trips. E. g. , for Medellin, I love to connect with a girl on Seeking or Facebook before I get there. Not only do I find these girls to be more 'non-pro' (haha, not sure what a better word would be, may be more girl friend like), but also given my poor command of Spanish / Portuguese, I can at least be upfront in terms of discussing things with them online before getting there physically. Also, helps me connect with the girl (and her to connect with me) emotionally before meeting in person I. E. We exchange notes on what we like / dislike etc. I like this route of connecting with someone online.

Now, I am sure for Sao Paulo, Scandallo will overwhelm me (based on what I read here. Haha). But, if I want to line up few girls, what's the best way to go about it? I checked seeking in Sao Paulo, and don't find more than 30-40 girls active (I. E. Logged in to the platform) in the last 2-3 days. Its very thin, compared to Medellin.

I see a lot of girls with 'green' active button on the MeuPatrocinio, so am guessing they are active on it or logged in recently. I don't mind paying the fees to join, but don't want to run into scams there. Any feedback on that platform?

Or would you recommend any other path to go about lining up girls online? Facebook? Something else?

[Axel Heyst]

Currently considering Marriott Executive Apartments for an upcoming stay among others. Why do you say the location is so great. From a quick glance, it seems to be close to nothing of mongering interest. Please correct me.

I like the location for a variety of reasons: 1) the neighborhood is a pleasant mix of upscale condos, standalone homes, and boutique shops where I discovered a Michelline star sushi restaurant, and a pretty good medium priced steak house.

2) The hotel is located 4 blocks from Ibirapuera Park.

3) The hotel's central location is halfway between the Molema clincias and Scandallo which IMO is a good transportation compromise if you like both venues like I do.

4) Bomboa is 2 blocks away. Bomboa is my 2nd favorite boate in SP.

5) There is an ATM machine in the hotel lobby!

The only downside of this hotel is no hotel room service at night so my girls and I must either order delivery or go out for dinner. This is not a big deal, but sometimes we want to just relax, stream a little TV, and order room service in between boom boom.

Another big hotel plus is every room has a balcony, a refrigerator / freezer, and a dishwasher making the apartment very entertainment friendly. Unfortunately, the rooms do not have a stand-alone shower with a separate jacuzzi tub like all my favorite 5-star hotels feature. Oh well, you can't have everything at this price point.

[Kazeu]

Currently considering Marriott Executive Apartments for an upcoming stay among others. Why do you say the location is so great. From a quick glance, it seems to be close to nothing of mongering interest. Please correct me.

That said, I like the Marriot Exec hotel. It ain't 5 star, but it is comfortable, it is girl friendly, and the location is GREAT. Unfortunately, Marriot does not accept hotel points for this property. It is cash only at all of their exec apartment hotels worldwide. I have stayed at 2 different Marriott Exec Apart Hotels in BKK and liked them both.

[Voodoo Jones]

Facebook or seeking is best. MP is full of scammers.

I don't think Seeking is worth it for Brazil. I was surprised how little women were on the site for a country with so many people. I did connect with a few on my first trip, but didn't bother on my second.

[PepolesBuddy]

Hey guys, Am preparing for my upcoming first Sao Paulo trip, and I know most of you will say that I don't need to go this route of trying to line up girls online, but I like to do that usually for most of my trips. E. g. , for Medellin, I love to connect with a girl on Seeking or Facebook before I get there. Not only do I find these girls to be more 'non-pro' (haha, not sure what a better word would be, may be more girl friend like), but also given my poor command of Spanish / Portuguese, I can at least be upfront in terms of discussing things with them online before getting there physically. Also, helps me connect with the girl (and her to connect with me) emotionally before meeting in person I. E. We exchange notes on what we like / dislike etc. I like this route of connecting with someone online.

Now, I am sure for Sao Paulo, Scandallo will overwhelm me (based on what I read here. Haha). But, if I want to line up few girls, what's the best way to go about it? I checked seeking in Sao Paulo, and don't find more than 30-40 girls active (I. E. Logged in to the platform) in the last 2-3 days. Its very thin, compared to Medellin.

Facebook or seeking is best. MP is full of scammers.

[Degenerate24]

Hey guys, Am preparing for my upcoming first Sao Paulo trip, and I know most of you will say that I don't need to go this route of trying to line up girls online, but I like to do that usually for most of my trips. E. g. , for Medellin, I love to connect with a girl on Seeking or Facebook before I get there. Not only do I find these girls to be more 'non-pro' (haha, not sure what a better word would be, may be more girl friend like), but also given my poor command of Spanish / Portuguese, I can at least be upfront in terms of discussing things with them online before getting there physically. Also, helps me connect with the girl (and her to connect with me) emotionally before meeting in person I. E. We exchange notes on what we like / dislike etc. I like this route of connecting with someone online.

Now, I am sure for Sao Paulo, Scandallo will overwhelm me (based on what I read here. Haha). But, if I want to line up few girls, what's the best way to go about it? I checked seeking in Sao Paulo, and don't find more than 30-40 girls active (I. E. Logged in to the platform) in the last 2-3 days. Its very thin, compared to Medellin.

I see a lot of girls with 'green' active button on the MeuPatrocinio, so am guessing they are active on it or logged in recently. I don't mind paying the fees to join, but don't want to run into scams there. Any feedback on that platform?

Or would you recommend any other path to go about lining up girls online? Facebook? Something else?

Skip the online if you are not there. It is more like a 50-50 because they use tons of filter. Whatever you do online, make sure you do a video call to make sure it is what you want / like.

I have had girls line up for other trips to other countries, and most of the time I either drop them, or end up with buyers remorse as I find hotter ones while hunting on site.

[Anaggie]

Hey guys, Am preparing for my upcoming first Sao Paulo trip, and I know most of you will say that I don't need to go this route of trying to line up girls online, but I like to do that usually for most of my trips. E. g. , for Medellin, I love to connect with a girl on Seeking or Facebook before I get there. Not only do I find these girls to be more 'non-pro' (haha, not sure what a better word would be, may be more girl friend like), but also given my poor command of Spanish / Portuguese, I can at least be upfront in terms of discussing things with them online before getting there physically. Also, helps me connect with the girl (and her to connect with me) emotionally before meeting in person I. E. We exchange notes on what we like / dislike etc. I like this route of connecting with someone online.

Now, I am sure for Sao Paulo, Scandallo will overwhelm me (based on what I read here. Haha). But, if I want to line up few girls, what's the best way to go about it? I checked seeking in Sao Paulo, and don't find more than 30-40 girls active (I. E. Logged in to the platform) in the last 2-3 days. Its very thin, compared to Medellin.

I see a lot of girls with 'green' active button on the MeuPatrocinio, so am guessing they are active on it or logged in recently. I don't mind paying the fees to join, but don't want to run into scams there. Any feedback on that platform?

Or would you recommend any other path to go about lining up girls online? Facebook? Something else?

No reason whatsoever to do this in SP. I can assure you that unless you are complete tool, you will enjoy meeting the girls in Scandello. The girls are used to using Google Translate and all my experiences at Scandello and other places have been full on GFE. I like talking to girl and getting to know them because that is something that I truly enjoy. And I have never been disappointed in São Paulo. Can't say the same with other countries where a lot of the girls are very business like. Brazilian girls are just different!!

[RahulMangla2009]

Hey guys, Am preparing for my upcoming first Sao Paulo trip, and I know most of you will say that I don't need to go this route of trying to line up girls online, but I like to do that usually for most of my trips. E. g. , for Medellin, I love to connect with a girl on Seeking or Facebook before I get there. Not only do I find these girls to be more 'non-pro' (haha, not sure what a better word would be, may be more girl friend like), but also given my poor command of Spanish / Portuguese, I can at least be upfront in terms of discussing things with them online before getting there physically. Also, helps me connect with the girl (and her to connect with me) emotionally before meeting in person I. E. We exchange notes on what we like / dislike etc. I like this route of connecting with someone online.

Now, I am sure for Sao Paulo, Scandallo will overwhelm me (based on what I read here. Haha). But, if I want to line up few girls, what's the best way to go about it? I checked seeking in Sao Paulo, and don't find more than 30-40 girls active (I. E. Logged in to the platform) in the last 2-3 days. Its very thin, compared to Medellin.

I see a lot of girls with 'green' active button on the MeuPatrocinio, so am guessing they are active on it or logged in recently. I don't mind paying the fees to join, but don't want to run into scams there. Any feedback on that platform?

Or would you recommend any other path to go about lining up girls online? Facebook? Something else?

[The Cane]

Ah-ah you fell into you own trap here. The correct form is "quiero a mi esposa" and "quiero a mi mama". Direct object with respect to a living being are preceded by preposition "a".

Portuguese is considered somewhat more difficult than Spanish, not only on account of its richer pronounciation. For example gender is less predictable in Portuguese, and does not always tally with the same words in Spanish (ex. El viage / a viagem; la samba / o samba etc.). Portuguese still has a future subjunctive tense which is obsolete in Spanish, as well as a "personal infinitive" tense which is quite an oddity since an infinitive is per definition a tenseless form. On the plus side, in Brazilian Portuguese you don't have to worry about the second person (Spanish: tu / vosotros).

I lived in Latin America for four years in two different countries, and the people said it exactly how I wrote it. It may not be technically correct in some respects, but that's how people spoke in everyday life, and that's how I say it too. Because it's every day communication with the "gente" that I care about. I'm not trying to give a speech to an educated audience on a complex subject or be a polished presenter on television. I'm just trying to communicate with ordinary people. When you learn a language, if you are being taught by someone who is a skilled instructor, they are going to teach you all the “correct” rules. But then when you get out there and start talking to real people, you find out how people actually speak, especially when it comes to slang. People do not follow all the “right” rules. Same thing with English speakers. As to Portuguese yes, I think most people agree that it's more challenging to learn. But already having Spanish makes it much easier to pick up. This is my lived experience. And I'm sticking to it!

[XXL]

The verb "querer" is used in the exact same way in Spanish. Yes, it means "to want". But, it's also very commonly used to express love and affection for another. Examples are "quiero mi mama" and "quiero mi esposa (wife)".

Ah-ah you fell into you own trap here. The correct form is "quiero a mi esposa" and "quiero a mi mama". Direct object with respect to a living being are preceded by preposition "a".

Portuguese is considered somewhat more difficult than Spanish, not only on account of its richer pronounciation. For example gender is less predictable in Portuguese, and does not always tally with the same words in Spanish (ex. El viage / a viagem; la samba / o samba etc.). Portuguese still has a future subjunctive tense which is obsolete in Spanish, as well as a "personal infinitive" tense which is quite an oddity since an infinitive is per definition a tenseless form. On the plus side, in Brazilian Portuguese you don't have to worry about the second person (Spanish: tu / vosotros).

[The Cane]

Agreed, particularly in Rio with the heavy 'ggjjuuuhhh' sound. I'm not sure how to best write LOL. While basic Spanish is helpful, many words that you'd think are the same are completely different, for example gym (En) - gimnasio (Sp) - academnia (Po) or birthday (En) - cumpleanos (Sp) - anniversario (Po) or thank you (En) - gracias (Sp) - obrigado (Po). Also querer (I want) in Spanish, translates more so as I love in Portuguese. This is just a small number. I need to consciously switch my brain around a little. Porto is easier in some ways because verb conjugation of he / she / you (informal) is basically the same, however there are 12 different tenses.

The verb "querer" is used in the exact same way in Spanish. Yes, it means "to want". But, it's also very commonly used to express love and affection for another. Examples are "quiero mi mama" and "quiero mi esposa (wife)".

[Chicago85]

I find that my gringo Spanish is often times an impediment to my understanding Portuguese when spoken by ordinary Brazilians. The words on paper are similar, but the pronunciation gets me almost every time. KKK! I am still learning.

Agreed, particularly in Rio with the heavy 'ggjjuuuhhh' sound. I'm not sure how to best write LOL. While basic Spanish is helpful, many words that you'd think are the same are completely different, for example gym (En) - gimnasio (Sp) - academnia (Po) or birthday (En) - cumpleanos (Sp) - anniversario (Po) or thank you (En) - gracias (Sp) - obrigado (Po). Also querer (I want) in Spanish, translates more so as I love in Portuguese. This is just a small number. I need to consciously switch my brain around a little. Porto is easier in some ways because verb conjugation of he / she / you (informal) is basically the same, however there are 12 different tenses.

[Tochka]

There's nothing naive about it at all. I've been going to Brazil for a couple of decades with just English and Spanish and a little bit Portuguese, and having a blast! Then when smartphones and translator apps came along that took it to a whole new level. I'm a seasoned Brazil traveler who knows what I'm talking about. Simple Spanish used in the right way can be helpful when trying to communicate in Brazil. Even with uneducated prostitutes and doormen! I know because I have successfully used it over the years and won't let anyone deny me of my own lived experience. But for me it's all irrelevant now. I speak conversational Portuguese (and could always read simple Portuguese due to my Spanish). And I'm getting better every day!

Yeah kkk I get old women, elderly men, stupid kids mistaking me for the security guy, doorman, department store manager, all the fvcking time when they are looking for help in a department store or supermercado. It took a half a beat to understand why they are all calling "moco". My girl and I , we are busy buying men clothes in rachelo, 25 de marco, or the tailored shops in bras ,she wants me to dress "chave demais" because I have some " drip" about me. Fine. So we are in loja C & A , Rachelo ,half dozen random people coming up to me in conversations starting with "moco ajudar" or tio tio. Kkk. i like the translate app that can handle slang or local expressions . now no problem speaking porto.

Same thing in the clubs its just easier for conversations to flow. Plus a great spotify list of Ax,Baile Funk, Sertanej and urbano / trap music gets those garotos going and some porto.

[Axel Heyst]

Even lusitanian Portuguese poses some difficulty for Brazilians to understand if they don't hail from the more educated classes. Expecting Spanish to be very helpful is naive, though it is useful as a background from which to learn Portuguese.

I find that my gringo Spanish is often times an impediment to my understanding Portuguese when spoken by ordinary Brazilians. The words on paper are similar, but the pronunciation gets me almost every time. KKK! I am still learning.

[Degenerate24]

It was only in my visit earlier this year that Solarium had the best talent. In my earliest trips to Rio decades ago Centaurus had the best talent for me. Second and third would be L'uomo then Monte Carlo. But in those days I mostly sessioned Help garotas. When Help closed I stopped going to Rio then shifted to Sao Paulo which had very hot girls but the service was not as good as Rio; no place in the world has girls who give as good service as cariocas.

I thought I was one of the few who thought that Cariocas naturally provide a GFE service. It is almost like they put themselves in a movie while at it. I haven't come across this type of service elsewhere.