Nairobi

[Member #4828]

I know one Swiss guy who believed that Mombasa girlfriend takes care of contraception or child prevention, taking pills. She did not, she trusted that musungu will take care of the baby and of her. Which he did, although Swiss guy did not want baby originally, and that girl was just a girl friend for one vacation. Now Mombasa girl is in Switcherland with the cappuzino baby and her previous African child. I don't think that she is with that Swiss guy, probably working in some club. And probably still supported by Swiss guy.

Common trick is also to tell that "I am pregnant, send me (a lot of) money to abortion". And then for the complications for abortion. "I am in hospital and it is all your faul". I have been tricked this way in some other continent. You are almost sure that you are being fooled but you still pay, just to be sure that you will not get a child with that working girl.

So, biggest threat with sex without condom is not sexual disease, it is these pregnancy things, mostly fake but sometimes true. I would not trust these girls who are saying they are taking pills.

Fuck! So the Swiss took her to Switzerland? But couldn't he refuse? How much can it cost to support a child in Kenya come on.

[Leblon]

I read your post well and I understand that you have sex without a condom, I admit that it has happened to me sometimes too. However, I wonder if you are not afraid of the consequences of pregnancy. How would you behave at that point? Just a few days ago a friend of mine from Germany wrote to me from Mombasa and told me he was terrified because he got a girl pregnant and he was afraid. She told him after a few months with her belly already evidentI told him: run away or commit suicide. I'm joking of course. But if it's not a scam it's definitely a huge problem for the German friend.

I know one Swiss guy who believed that Mombasa girlfriend takes care of contraception or child prevention, taking pills. She did not, she trusted that musungu will take care of the baby and of her. Which he did, although Swiss guy did not want baby originally, and that girl was just a girl friend for one vacation. Now Mombasa girl is in Switcherland with the cappuzino baby and her previous African child. I don't think that she is with that Swiss guy, probably working in some club. And probably still supported by Swiss guy.

Common trick is also to tell that "I am pregnant, send me (a lot of) money to abortion". And then for the complications for abortion. "I am in hospital and it is all your faul". I have been tricked this way in some other continent. You are almost sure that you are being fooled but you still pay, just to be sure that you will not get a child with that working girl.

So, biggest threat with sex without condom is not sexual disease, it is these pregnancy things, mostly fake but sometimes true. I would not trust these girls who are saying they are taking pills.

[SuperChuck]

Fair question.

The no condoms thing is only because I have never been in a city like Nairobi where there are so many girls, to the point where I found no need for p4 p. Meaning, I only focused on nonpros, normal university girls that are NOT selling box, and had actual serious relationships with them so the risk therefore is very low. I happily spent on them and partied hard, but never have I experienced those types of fun.

Especially coming from the states, we aint used to seeing black girls being sweet and submissive, not in this manner, gorgeous ones too. That itself is a huge culture shock. It's like a diff universe. Plus I can sit and listen to those women speak all day with that beautiful English accent.

There are some rachet and ghetto ones too, but bc of the abundance, you can easily filter and chery pick from a huge majority.

Remember I stayed an entire 6 months, rented my own apt after month 1, bought furniture and everything. There were like several that I dated for few months. When we met, many had a patch on their arm or whatever that planning stuff is to not get pregnant, and I made two get it, and another one just took plan be pills next day or birth control pills. Couple thought they got pregnant and weren't couple of them lied twice when it was break up time, to keep me around but I uncovered the truth LOL. There were very minor issues, nothing grave, little lies, at times didn't want to leave.

STORY TIME:

I kicked out one for withholding some important info from me, lied about something that I couldn't accept. Basically, she lived with a girl roommate, who one day had a family urgency and had to move back to the village. So, my girl then would have no place to stay. My girl then told me she had another girlfriend she could stay with, and I said ok and following the situation. As we spent few days together, at that time we had only met for a month, comes in and out.

In my thinking, worst case scenario ID just tell her to move in, but then she had that second GF. I'm thinking all is fine. So one day she said she's going home to move remove her stuff from gf1 to gf2, as gf1 is getting ready to lock the place down and leave to her village. But before she left my place, she said, hey just in case gf2 isn't avail, can I bring my stuff here temporarily. I replied sure why not. Upon return, I asked did you find the new place for your stuff, since she came empty handed. She replied yes. Since she was abnormally quiet, I insisted that she tells me what's going on? She refused to answer, went in the room, quiet for like a half hour. I know when a woman feels guilty about something or lying. I went after her in the room, asked her to leave unless she tells me what's going on. Then she said gf2 wasn't avail, and she moved her stuff to her cousin's place. She lied again and said was a female cousin, caught her whispering on the phone few times before, and always said it was her cousin. But that day, I insisted she tells me the truth by asking why do you often whisper? It's a male cousin isn't it? Or could be your local BF? She then said yes it's a guy cousin.

At that point, trust is gone. She confirms, dude only has 1 bed, speaking of her make cousin, and she had planned to sleeping on his bed. Blah blah. At this point I'm thinkiing, she's testing me to see if I get jealous cause no woman would tell you that and not expecting a reaction. Or she's telling the truth and it's a guy cousin. People there are poor, and many people there host friends and family and share a bad. Hosting means you come stay with me, sleep in my bed, you get no key, and you come home when I'm home. That sort of thing. So being a guy with lots of hunnies, no way I'm going to forgive that especially bc she lied first. So it's suspicious at best and I don't do that. I make decision quickly in everything and zero time for bullshit.

She's thrown out immediately by me.

That same night incl the next few days she kept on returning, begging, she even slept outside the door, I had to threat calling the police, and security had to come escort her out and threatened arrest. That's the last I saw of her. She did text me and said sorry, said I was right to be upset. She said on the following night when she went to the cousin, he tried having sex with her, she declined and he too kicked her out. She rented a hotel for few days, with money I had given her, and she thanked me for that otherwise would be in the streets. She since then got her own apt after that.

I told that story to a couple friends there, and they said beautiful women in Kenya don't go homeless, and that she was trying to play me. Either to make me jealous to invite her to move in, or some other weird agenda that may have backfired on her LOL.

So things like that, or even lesser events than that I would cut them out of the roster. You have to be strict to do what I do. Keep them in check.

She respected it, even told me her friends said I was right and no tourist would accept their women on another man's bed, cousin or not. At least she should've told me first she had no other option, and ID ask her to move in. My prob was the lie, multiple times. Yes fellas, not paying hookers come with real GF dramas, some arguments, high blood pressure, shit we had left behind. LOL. It's all good cause at least we're living and it's confirmation we still have a pulse.

That's the most intense prob that occurred and only with one. Some gents here have had similar stories. Don't mislead too much cz they will want to continue getting your support, your comfort, and will not want to go. (that's when you'll get a text in few days that she's pregnant. But a lie and it's just to get you back). I need to be more careful, incl taking one back is a risk as they may return for revenge hence my story.

As far std, I do what most mongers do in this forum, got them tested first, except for a couple. We all take risks, hopefully a good balance between that and being foolish. Every guy is diff as far as what they do when it comes to that so I didn't feel the need to elaborate. Now if I did visit massage parlors or brothels or hardcore working p4 p girls, I would strap up like every cust. But In Nairobi bro those were literally my wives, seriously.

When you get there you will want to move there ASAP. It's a crazy vibe. That was the hardest exit from any prior trip in decades of traveling. I wanted to give up on everything and settle there. But then I woke the fuck up especially since some of my Colombiana wives were contacting me begging me to return LOL.

I read your post well and I understand that you have sex without a condom, I admit that it has happened to me sometimes too. However, I wonder if you are not afraid of the consequences of pregnancy. How would you behave at that point? Just a few days ago a friend of mine from Germany wrote to me from Mombasa and told me he was terrified because he got a girl pregnant and he was afraid. She told him after a few months with her belly already evidentI told him: run away or commit suicide. I'm joking of course. But if it's not a scam it's definitely a huge problem for the German friend.

[Neddy69]

IPhone 16 basic model starts at $800 (100 k ksh) That's about 7 months salary for girls with good jobs. For the vast majority, it could be around 10 months salary. As you sated before, find out how much local men pay for dates and pussy. What is a typical budget for African men to spend on girls and how they do it. Then you do the math and add a suitable foreigner surcharge and viola you have your spending budget. I don't usually buy phones, but I got one of my girls a used Tecno phone, and she was happy. That's why I like Luhya girl they are more humble.

If you like her much. Buy her an Infinix. I switched to Infinix which is the high end brand. Same company as Tecno. The low cost brand again of the same company is Itel.

Available everywhere in Africa.

Mwalimu.

[AttilaTheHun]

Na. They're just western idiots who think they have to pay western. Prices. As you say. They don't get it that these girls outwit them. Iphone is very popular. What usually happens the girls demand an iPhone because they can sell it straight for half or less the price. There is a whole street for example in Mombasa Island where you can buy back your liberated. I. e. Stolen or otherwise lost iphone. I know dumbasses who went through several of those. The girl just said it broke or was stolen. So. The western idiots buys the next one. . I know people they went through 3 or 4 iphones until they found out. And it can be even dangerous for the girl. If she lives in a slum area an iPhone which represents a value of several months salary.

Mwalimu.

But what do you expect of guys who pay 100 for 15 minutes sex with a Romanian prostitute in a German FKK for example. Pussy is nothing special in sub Saharan Africa. It keeps prices low.

IPhone 16 basic model starts at $800 (100 k ksh) That's about 7 months salary for girls with good jobs. For the vast majority, it could be around 10 months salary. As you sated before, find out how much local men pay for dates and pussy. What is a typical budget for African men to spend on girls and how they do it. Then you do the math and add a suitable foreigner surcharge and viola you have your spending budget. I don't usually buy phones, but I got one of my girls a used Tecno phone, and she was happy. That's why I like Luhya girl they are more humble.

[Neddy69]

Maybe true but there are plenty of variety available. You will never run out of options. I have enough slim, petite girls with cute faces for my needs. You are not restricted at all. Where most girls are making around 15 k ksh or less, I don't see why these thirsty wazungu give them iPhones when a basic model Tecno would be enough to make them happy. I don't understand those men's logic. They bring Western European / US prices to Africa, and that's how they justify it? I don't get it. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Why bring the US to Kenya? Are those girls Luo, maybe those girls have the skills to scam those idiots to do it.

Na. They're just western idiots who think they have to pay western. Prices. As you say. They don't get it that these girls outwit them. Iphone is very popular. What usually happens the girls demand an iPhone because they can sell it straight for half or less the price. There is a whole street for example in Mombasa Island where you can buy back your liberated. I. e. Stolen or otherwise lost iphone. I know dumbasses who went through several of those. The girl just said it broke or was stolen. So. The western idiots buys the next one. . I know people they went through 3 or 4 iphones until they found out. And it can be even dangerous for the girl. If she lives in a slum area an iPhone which represents a value of several months salary.

Mwalimu.

But what do you expect of guys who pay 100€ for 15 minutes sex with a Romanian prostitute in a German FKK for example. Pussy is nothing special in sub Saharan Africa. It keeps prices low.

[AttilaTheHun]

The standard of beauty in Kenya is 4 D which means Ana Nicole size. Most Kenyan women are not attractive face wise body wise it's up to debate when they're slim or skinny it look's weird on them in my opinion. A lot guys come on here making it seem they're fucking crazy for free in Africa. They never mentioned they take these bitches shopping buying letting drive rental cars from enterprise, Avis or Hertz's. Some guys even buy these women cars or motorcycles. Purchase them iPhone 13,14,15 and new iPhone 16's buy these women 150000 bob laptops so it can have a good webcam to keep the trinkets coming in. Kenya ain't the only country these guys do that shit in the first time I saw this was in PNG Papua New Guinea those girls are no where close to hot and neither are the men parading them on motorbikes ATV's she cars. When I used to live in Thailand I saw slobs get taken to the cleaners. Brought Thai prostitutes houses, backies and paying 500,000 Thai bhat doweries. A lot of times I get confused plenty of guys brag about getting chased down in the streets of Westland, parklands and Kilimani. Then you have a very good looking guy who got to use Tinder or Badoo to score. I'm wondering which is the best approach? Me personally I wouldn't come to Africa looking for a wife there's plenty of guys from European countries in Africa looking for a wide and when there's millions of them on the continent of Europe. Greed is in a lot of these people blood it's not only Africa but Latin America too. Hey before you arrive make sure to get you soap from your country and make her wash before and after sex. Keep in mind you're here to have fun that's it and expect to pay for pussy like how most of these good looking guy claims not to do. When I choose to visit Africa or any other country I understand I will be paying for sex because it won't be any confusion. A long long time ago my country Puerto Rico used to be a play ground before too now shit changed up a whole lot there if a guy is looking for sex except $150 at the minimum and a girl a used Honda Civic.

Maybe true but there are plenty of variety available. You will never run out of options. I have enough slim, petite girls with cute faces for my needs. You are not restricted at all. Where most girls are making around 15 k ksh or less, I don't see why these thirsty wazungu give them iPhones when a basic model Tecno would be enough to make them happy. I don't understand those men's logic. They bring Western European / US prices to Africa, and that's how they justify it? I don't get it. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Why bring the US to Kenya? Are those girls Luo, maybe those girls have the skills to scam those idiots to do it.

[MwenByen]

The standard of beauty in Kenya is 4 D which means Ana Nicole size. Most Kenyan women are not attractive face wise body wise it's up to debate when they're slim or skinny it look's weird on them in my opinion. A lot guys come on here making it seem they're fucking crazy for free in Africa. They never mentioned they take these bitches shopping buying letting drive rental cars from enterprise, Avis or Hertz's. Some guys even buy these women cars or motorcycles. Purchase them iPhone 13,14,15 and new iPhone 16's buy these women 150000 bob laptops so it can have a good webcam to keep the trinkets coming in. Kenya ain't the only country these guys do that shit in the first time I saw this was in PNG Papua New Guinea those girls are no where close to hot and neither are the men parading them on motorbikes ATV's she cars. When I used to live in Thailand I saw slobs get taken to the cleaners. Brought Thai prostitutes houses, backies and paying 500,000 Thai bhat doweries. A lot of times I get confused plenty of guys brag about getting chased down in the streets of Westland, parklands and Kilimani. Then you have a very good looking guy who got to use Tinder or Badoo to score. I'm wondering which is the best approach? Me personally I wouldn't come to Africa looking for a wife there's plenty of guys from European countries in Africa looking for a wide and when there's millions of them on the continent of Europe. Greed is in a lot of these people blood it's not only Africa but Latin America too. Hey before you arrive make sure to get you soap from your country and make her wash before and after sex. Keep in mind you're here to have fun that's it and expect to pay for pussy like how most of these good looking guy claims not to do. When I choose to visit Africa or any other country I understand I will be paying for sex because it won't be any confusion. A long long time ago my country Puerto Rico used to be a play ground before too now shit changed up a whole lot there if a guy is looking for sex except $150 at the minimum and a girl a used Honda Civic.

How many percent of the girls you meet would you dsecribe as petite / slim?

[TeFab456]

You walk around and your head is turning left and right looking at women with natural asses all over. Watch out for the $2 hos, they're aggressive and will be following you around offering you services. Visiting those huge street markets is recommended as part of your trips, will be like a theme park since we don't have those in the US / UK.

How many percent of the girls you meet would you dsecribe as petite / slim?

[IronQuinn]

From Mt Elgon to Kitale that could be 20 or 30 miles (ca. 48 km) On a boda boda is definitely a pain in the ass literally but seems to be well worth it. Going up and down steep hills and around in circles and some sections, may be dirt roads. May I ask what did you do at or around Mt Elgon?

I was visiting Mt Elgon National Park on the Kenyan side. The entire park is in both Kenya and Uganda, a beautiful place. If you ever go out that way, you'll most likely have the place to yourself (except for the mandatory armed guide). Yes, it is a long ride from Kitale, and that's why the driver wanted to stop in his village. If anyone does decide to venture out into the countryside, taking matatus and boda-bodas are very cost effective. For example, that daytrip was literally all day between driving there and back and having the driver wait while I trekked through the park. He asked for the equivalent in shillings of about 20 USD. I gave him a good tip as well and he was thrilled.

[MaddTraveler]

Thanks for the detailed list. Any suggestions for daytime? I'm an early person. Ideally, somewhere with hot non / semi-pros gathering before 8 pm.

Also, I never tried the malls in Nairobi. Have you tried picking up there? In other thread / region, apparently food courts are treasure troves for pulling nice women working in the businesses or hanging out.

Oh yeah for sure. When I first arrived, I took a taxi to cbd and just walked around to get to know the city, walked around all the business districts, archives, museum, library, govt buildings, and ended up in the busy markets area. All those areas have beautiful girls walking ALL OVER. You can easily stop them and talk, the store merchants and street merchants will call on you and stop you also being a foreigner my guy. Late afternoon I'd sit in a bar in cbd, and would also have lots of single women incl the workers in there. There are so many women walking in the streets of CBD, you will never see anything like it nowhere else in the world. Seriously.

As far as Malls, I've visited all of them and did chat with few, I didn't get the chance to do that a lot since I'm often accompanied. The very next day after arrival, first mall I visited was junction mall, inside there's a carrefour supermarket like all of them. While shopping, 3 girls were smiling at me as I passed by looking lost, they helped me and we chatted, ended up exch numbers and hung out with one of them. They wanted to come to cook for me when I teased them and said I'm buying stuff to make my coffee and breakfast, and just got here last night LOL. They were super friendly welcoming me, thought me couple swahili words.

Sarit Center is also cool, prob the best one to pick up girls, at the food court, on the outside and early evening like you said. On the rooftop there's a lounge with semi pros, sitting and waiting for gents to pick them up there. Only went once so I forgot the name of that spot. Also many of those places I posted earlier are open 24 h like Quiver, you can go early and find girls in those. Or make rendez-vous from dating sites. People party and drink a lot in Nairbi, and often not avail to meet you late night cause they're out, especially on weekends. Therefore it's easy to meet and have lots of avail dates during the day. The day game is cool, but harder since you don't know who's single on cold approach right. But it's why I do both online and in person if it's obvious.

Everyone will be staring at you a lot when you walk around, especially if you look decent, so stopping and stay Hello, or ask for dir, or random question is super easy to start a convo and go from there.

I take trips to the malls every few days, mainly to take out cash at the atms (L&M is the best), then after I'd go sit in Artcafe or Javahouse for coffee, and at times ID meet some cuties. They would holler at me or me at them. They would say nice shoes as I walk around. Those girls arent shy at all.

A few times while hanging with a girl, someone I'm not serious with, we would both hit on a waitress together, either for me or for us to try a threesome. Worked and then I kept doing it even with others. Don't do it with someone who's in love with you or jealous, I got in lots of troubles too LOL.

She would at times just call the cute waitress and get their numbers for me if she catches me starring and didn't gaf. Those girls are mad cool especially if they're on your side and open minded. Also one thing is true no matter where you are in the world. Girls stare at you more and pay more attention to you when you're with another girl, day or night, outside or inside a club. So take a female friend with you, plus you being a tourist it's on. They want to compete and that gets you laid even more.

Two rivers mall, Westgate, TRM, Garden City, Sarit, Galleria, Yaya, Junction, are the ones I visited. There are lowkey baddies in the street markets also like Kenyatta Market, Village market, Maasai Market, those are where you buy stuff especially food at real Kenyan prices. Like 90% less than supermarkets or malls. You walk around and your head is turning left and right looking at women with natural asses all over. Watch out for the $2 hos, they're aggressive and will be following you around offering you services. Visiting those huge street markets is recommended as part of your trips, will be like a theme park since we don't have those in the US / UK.

[Sen Palpatine]

Thanks for the detailed list. Any suggestions for daytime? I'm an early person. Ideally, somewhere with hot non / semi-pros gathering before 8 pm.

Also, I never tried the malls in Nairobi. Have you tried picking up there? In other thread / region, apparently food courts are treasure troves for pulling nice women working in the businesses or hanging out.

For those who keep writing about SJ, you must love old, ugly and fat women in Nairobi.

Nairobi has like 100+ night clubs in the city and nearby towns, yet all you fellas want to write about is Sabina Joy? That place is pure trash LMAO. It's frequented by locals, poor johns that have no other choice. So for us traveling and crossing multiple continents, and that's where we want to go? We cannot afford more than $5 USD to fuck? Or enjoy some good ambience? Shameful.

When I walked by SJ with a girl, I mentioning I read about it and would like to go in, she laughed at me and told me about the oldies in there, which was also what I noticed when I glanced another day on a quick stop. I had couple Kenyans buds who took me to their regular spots, some in CBD, some in Thika area, some dark back allies, even further in Kasarani where they spend as low as 200 bob to fuck. Less than $2. I don't judge those guys cause I know that's all they got and they're not in danger, even though they themselves lose their cell phones from those girls at times. If you plan to visit those places for fun and to explore, to have something to write about, then yeah especially if you're with someone. Otherwise it's not safe if you're an obvious mzungu and alone.

[Trvllvr58]

"BO" is not even mentioned under abbreviations, so how can we know!?

BO-Body Odor.

I. e. Smells bad!

[Ioneto]

"BO" is not even mentioned under abbreviations, so how can we know!?

I looked for it and when I couldn't find it I thought it was Body Odor.

[Neddy69]

"bo" is not even mentioned under abbreviations, so how can we know!?

Body odor.