Tokyo

[Rick Rock]

TAE girls will virtually all do CFS for 10 k. TAE advertises it as AF (anal fuck) to stay legal.

You can't pay for it in the office. They will all agree to it in the room.

Yes, this is my experience, repeated many times over and over.

[Traveler X]

Tokyo Hentai girls want 10 K yens, quick and happy.

Tokyo Amateur, a grad student, wanted 20 K yens and was hesitant. She said would lose her job if her boss found out she had sex.

Their bosses tightly monitor their time, movements, expressions.

Yes, I noticed TAE girls were a bit more hush hush about it, asking me not to say in public. The shop is probably just playing it safe to avoid drawing attention. It also lets the girls say no to guys, which is going to happen if a guy doesn't seem clean or safe. Also, I'll give the example that some girls let me do video but my own friends were turned down. Of course they got fs from them. Video is way more ymmv. The girl did ask me not to say they offered it, precisely so they can simply say no to guys.

Yes, the hotter girls did ask for 20K. The less attractive girls did not. In Japan, girls do know their rank you could say.

Meaning no disrespect, when were you in Tokyo?

THC is very overpriced. THC girls start negotiation at 30 K for CFS but go down to 15 k CFS or 20 k BBFS (CIP is very YMMV). Best price I was able to get was 13 K for CFS.

TAE girls will virtually all do CFS for 10 k. TAE advertises it as AF (anal fuck) to stay legal.

You can't pay for it in the office. They will all agree to it in the room. I fucked 3 out of 5 TAE girls I saw without any issues for 10 k. The only ones I didn't fuck I didn't think to ask her (my first TAE girl) abd an ugly girl I didn't want to fuck. Nobody will gets fired. The management knows they all fuck.

Captain is quoting last year's rates. But keep in mind each guy can be getting different rates. There are occasionally TAE girls doing it for free, and I did get higher quotes from hotter girls. But I felt TAE was cheap and reasonable (only hot girls asked for more). I wrote out my thoughts on negotiating for fs. Probably, someone has a better approach this is just how I do it based on my experience:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2979529 Negotiating in DH

I used to negotiate for fs all the time in strip clubs, and the veterans always said they will dress down and look poor (but be clean and respectful). So they would go in with sandals and shorts even to give that impression (that is too extreme for me, I'm just illustrating their approach). So I know from strip clubs one guy will get quoted a normal rate by a stripper but the same girl will quote high for another guy. Either because he seemed to have more money or simply she didn't like the guy. Hope that makes sense. Not every girl does this at all, but the point is guys had this approach to improve their odds in the long-run.

About booting the uglies, it is tricky. One person's complaint will never do it. I wrote recently at korgs in the US, an F-Tier girl will get booted fast in 2-3 days max - right after she was hired. It's inevitable because one customer after another will give that feedback. But a D-Tier girl won't, she meets the standard and probably has amazing skills and service. Actually, some of the most popular girls are kind of ugly but give amazing service so guys who care about looks aren't going to boot them through complaints (we aren't the target audience). D Looks and A Service. It's the E-Tier range where it's kind of iffy. If a girl has been with a shop a long time, they aren't going to give much weight to one new complaint when she passed the probation period. Hope that makes sense, when I say uglies get booted on feedback that is going to be during her probation period. Past probation, girls get booted if they really screw up more than once (i.e. a pattern of problems).

To some degree, some E-Tier girls slip through the cracks because not enough guys spoke up honestly. Or, more surprisingly, some customers actually like her and keep booking her. They are not going to fire a girl who has enough regulars in other words.

[Csnow]

Tokyo Hentai girls want 10 K yens, quick and happy.

Tokyo Amateur, a grad student, wanted 20 K yens and was hesitant. She said would lose her job if her boss found out she had sex.

Their bosses tightly monitor their time, movements, expressions.

Meaning no disrespect, when were you in Tokyo?

I was there a few months ago and posted detailed reviews of many THC and TAE girls.

My data:

THC is very overpriced. THC girls start negotiation at 30 K for CFS but go down to 15 k CFS or 20 k BBFS (CIP is very YMMV). Best price I was able to get was 13 K for CFS.

TAE girls will virtually all do CFS for 10 k. TAE advertises it as AF (anal fuck) to stay legal.

You can't pay for it in the office. They will all agree to it in the room. I fucked 3 out of 5 TAE girls I saw without any issues for 10 k. The only ones I didn't fuck I didn't think to ask her (my first TAE girl) abd an ugly girl I didn't want to fuck. Nobody will gets fired. The management knows they all fuck. The TAE girls you saw was either very new or was lying to you to charge you more.

In fact I reported an ugly TAE girl to the management stating her pictures absolutely didn't match. Several months later she is still working there using the same 100% fake pictures. Management doesn't care and will not fire anyone.

Having said that, your contributions are highly appreciated and I am reading many of your posts in the Saigon thread. I will hit you up with questions after I RTFM in that thread.

[Csnow]

I seen this on THC webiste they written a rule: Do the companions provide "full service" (Sexual Intercourse)?

No. Please acknowledge that in Japan financial compensation for "Vaginal Penetration" has been outlawed since 1956. We would appreciate your co-operation by not asking our staff and companions for this particular service.

Are they writting this to protecte themselve or its really like this? I lived so bad experience like this, not a lot, but it thaiuland it happened a few time: gogo who is refusing to fuck at the room. Legally they ca, they are not forced, but they work as gogo in a bar into tan open air brothel so only one on like a thousand refused. I am asking because I would be very frustrated to go to tokyo and live this.

They are doing it to protect themselves. Legally they cannot offer it or accept payment for it in their office.

They will also send it to you in most of your appointment confirmations. No matter how many of their girls you fuck. Every time they will make you acknowledge that FS is illegal and not included.

Once in the room with the girl, either she offers you FS or you ask for it. For extra charge, always. It's not included into the basic fee.

99% of THC and TAE girls will do FS. The 1% that doesn't are probably on their period.

At the risk of sounding pedantic or condesending, never make your conclusions based on one review. Go back a few pages.

Not only will these girls offer you FS, most will do BBFSCIP for the right price.

[Captain Solo]

Tokyo Hentai girls want 10 K yens, quick and happy.

Tokyo Amateur, a grad student, wanted 20 K yens and was hesitant. She said would lose her job if her boss found out she had sex.

Their bosses tightly monitor their time, movements, expressions.

[BennieBen]

I don't know if I am having a great run of luck lately or we have just entered the golden age of mongering for gaijin in Japan. I just had a night to remember with Momo from THC. She swears she is Japanese but damn she looks like a super hot K-POP girl than I goon to, so I had to have her. There are TONS of pictures of her so I knew what I was getting into. Some places fake pics, but with 50 pictures I could see what she looked like, and she looked damn hot.

So I had her over to my hotel and she was just what I needed. Slim and sexy, high glamour, to be honest too hot for me and way above my level. She's also super sexual, which kind of surprised me at first but I quickly got into letting my K-pop mommy have her way with me and the hard bone I couldn't hide.

Her English is pretty good, her body is pretty great. Big natural oppai that she knows how to use. I sucked on those things like a newborn baby while she wanked me into oblivion. Face sitting with bareback blowing was no problem by my request and she reacted pleasantly when I started munching on her super tight bung hole.

Totally shaved paipan body felt great for sumata and I jizzed all over the outside of twat lips. She kept grinding on me so hopefully she doesn't end up preggers by my stray swimmers.

She told me she is a 3 P fanatic, and encouraged me to come back and do her with other girls. I saw the team of her giant boobs Mone and that really stoked me up. I might take a pay advance just so I can get in between those 4 marshmallow tits.

Bonus points for any gooner pervs like me who know which K-POP idol she looks like!

I seen this on THC webiste they written a rule: Do the companions provide "full service" (Sexual Intercourse)?

No. Please acknowledge that in Japan financial compensation for "Vaginal Penetration" has been outlawed since 1956. We would appreciate your co-operation by not asking our staff and companions for this particular service.

Are they writting this to protecte themselve or its really like this? I lived so bad experience like this, not a lot, but it thaiuland it happened a few time: gogo who is refusing to fuck at the room. Legally they ca, they are not forced, but they work as gogo in a bar into tan open air brothel so only one on like a thousand refused. I am asking because I would be very frustrated to go to tokyo and live this.

[JackieMarlo]

I don't know if I am having a great run of luck lately or we have just entered the golden age of mongering for gaijin in Japan. I just had a night to remember with Momo from THC. She swears she is Japanese but damn she looks like a super hot K-POP girl than I goon to, so I had to have her. There are TONS of pictures of her so I knew what I was getting into. Some places fake pics, but with 50 pictures I could see what she looked like, and she looked damn hot.

So I had her over to my hotel and she was just what I needed. Slim and sexy, high glamour, to be honest too hot for me and way above my level. She's also super sexual, which kind of surprised me at first but I quickly got into letting my K-pop mommy have her way with me and the hard bone I couldn't hide.

Her English is pretty good, her body is pretty great. Big natural oppai that she knows how to use. I sucked on those things like a newborn baby while she wanked me into oblivion. Face sitting with bareback blowing was no problem by my request and she reacted pleasantly when I started munching on her super tight bung hole.

Totally shaved paipan body felt great for sumata and I jizzed all over the outside of twat lips. She kept grinding on me so hopefully she doesn't end up preggers by my stray swimmers.

She told me she is a 3 P fanatic, and encouraged me to come back and do her with other girls. I saw the team of her giant boobs Mone and that really stoked me up. I might take a pay advance just so I can get in between those 4 marshmallow tits.

Bonus points for any gooner pervs like me who know which K-POP idol she looks like!

[Romero001]

Thanks to all who have given great information on Tokyo.

I will be visiting in a couple of weeks and looking forward to trying a soapland and delivery health such as TAE. Has any one tried picking up a girl from WeChat "Discover People Nearby" function? I was in Hanoi last year and used this function to pick up a girl for sex. Just wondering if anyone had success in Tokyo.

[Csnow]

I had a great experience with multiple pops at Kings Room soap in Yoshiwara. This is a Japanese soapland, but they have an English component to make it easy for guys like me who speak no Japanese to get top tier soapland service.

https://kings-room.com/

It was pricey at 105000 Yen, but it came with a lot of perks. Finally got a girl who looks like an AV star instead of the skanks I usually get served at other places. They treated me like a gentlemen, with a ride in from the train station, drink service, door opening, and the like.

My gorgeous girl Nakanonino bowed to the floor to greet me like a king. She undressed me, untied my shoes, catbath of the entire body including feet and asshole. Bareback blowing from different angles, she even somehow sucked on my from behind during mat play stage. Lots of rimming, deep kissing, fucking in every position all over the room. Wet and dry activities.

I erupted a total of 3 times in 110 minutes, which was a great performance from me. Her body was perfect with natural breasts and an oh so beautiful face. Each orgasm was better than the last, her holes were like magic. I never got in her ass but she let me toss her salad on request and it was clean and delicious.

No walk of shame on the way out, the great treatment continued and I felt like a respected client of a high end boutique. I will return when the bank account is replenished.

Thank you for reporting. My concern with spending this much would be the possibility of a dud. No matter how highly the place is recommended. But I'm glad it worked out for you!

[Csnow]

When you say skanks at other places or other soaplands do you mean on occasion the girl was not attractive or was that you're general impression of most of the girls in other soaplands you went to? Thanks.

Just when i think i've understood the Tokyo scene posts like this make me rethink. I find it hard to believe the general quality of girls is poor at gfe soapland, kia kira etc....maybe im wrong. Can anyone correct me here.

My friend, did you read my reviews of Kira Kira and Casanova? What did you learn from them? Also look up term 'panel magic' as applied to Japan's sex industry.

[GroundCrew]

I had a great experience with multiple pops at Kings Room soap in Yoshiwara. This is a Japanese soapland, but they have an English component to make it easy for guys like me who speak no Japanese to get top tier soapland service.

https://kings-room.com/

It was pricey at 105000 Yen, but it came with a lot of perks. Finally got a girl who looks like an AV star instead of the skanks I usually get served at other places. They treated me like a gentlemen, with a ride in from the train station, drink service, door opening, and the like.

My gorgeous girl Nakanonino bowed to the floor to greet me like a king. She undressed me, untied my shoes, catbath of the entire body including feet and asshole. Bareback blowing from different angles, she even somehow sucked on my from behind during mat play stage. Lots of rimming, deep kissing, fucking in every position all over the room. Wet and dry activities.

I erupted a total of 3 times in 110 minutes, which was a great performance from me. Her body was perfect with natural breasts and an oh so beautiful face. Each orgasm was better than the last, her holes were like magic. I never got in her ass but she let me toss her salad on request and it was clean and delicious.

No walk of shame on the way out, the great treatment continued and I felt like a respected client of a high end boutique. I will return when the bank account is replenished.

Thanks for the great report. Sometimes you got to splurge. Like going to a Michelin star restaurant on those special occasions.

I've been to one of those soaplands in Yoshiwara and my experience was a little different. I was walking down the main street and one of the male touts stopped me. He said gaijin ok. I went in and started looking at the girls pics on a card and he mentioned it was 70 k for I think about 100 minutes. I told him it was a little high for me and told him I wanted to spend about 40 k. He said ok but I needed to go to sanother shop. There I picked out a nice girl from the pictures. She was ok looking for Japanese standards. Not JAV level though. But the service was very similar to your experience. I almost slipped it in bare but decided to pull away and ask for the cover. I didn't know if I CIP then maybe I might have issues with the establishment afterwards. All in all a good experience.

[StarletVoyager]

When you say skanks at other places or other soaplands do you mean on occasion the girl was not attractive or was that you're general impression of most of the girls in other soaplands you went to? Thanks.

Just when i think i've understood the Tokyo scene posts like this make me rethink. I find it hard to believe the general quality of girls is poor at gfe soapland, kia kira etc....maybe im wrong. Can anyone correct me here.

[FutureDeadGuy]

I had a great experience with multiple pops at Kings Room soap in Yoshiwara. This is a Japanese soapland, but they have an English component to make it easy for guys like me who speak no Japanese to get top tier soapland service.

https://kings-room.com/

It was pricey at 105000 Yen, but it came with a lot of perks. Finally got a girl who looks like an AV star instead of the skanks I usually get served at other places. They treated me like a gentlemen, with a ride in from the train station, drink service, door opening, and the like.

My gorgeous girl Nakanonino bowed to the floor to greet me like a king. She undressed me, untied my shoes, catbath of the entire body including feet and asshole. Bareback blowing from different angles, she even somehow sucked on my from behind during mat play stage. Lots of rimming, deep kissing, fucking in every position all over the room. Wet and dry activities.

Getting ready to to my annual multi-month visit, and I'll be checking this one out!

[AussieGaigin]

Planning a trip to Tokyo soon. Are there any dating sites like in Thailand? Like Thai Friendly?

Perhaps Tinder or WeChat would be less formal than dating sites. Google offers lots of options. Remember a lot of dating sites are scams, you never directly with the actual girls advertised, easily identified by "pay per message" pricing.

[JackieMarlo]

I had a great experience with multiple pops at Kings Room soap in Yoshiwara. This is a Japanese soapland, but they have an English component to make it easy for guys like me who speak no Japanese to get top tier soapland service.

https://kings-room.com/

It was pricey at 105000 Yen, but it came with a lot of perks. Finally got a girl who looks like an AV star instead of the skanks I usually get served at other places. They treated me like a gentlemen, with a ride in from the train station, drink service, door opening, and the like.

My gorgeous girl Nakanonino bowed to the floor to greet me like a king. She undressed me, untied my shoes, catbath of the entire body including feet and asshole. Bareback blowing from different angles, she even somehow sucked on my from behind during mat play stage. Lots of rimming, deep kissing, fucking in every position all over the room. Wet and dry activities.

I erupted a total of 3 times in 110 minutes, which was a great performance from me. Her body was perfect with natural breasts and an oh so beautiful face. Each orgasm was better than the last, her holes were like magic. I never got in her ass but she let me toss her salad on request and it was clean and delicious.

No walk of shame on the way out, the great treatment continued and I felt like a respected client of a high end boutique. I will return when the bank account is replenished.