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03-12-26 02:54 #15009
TAE cont.
Rick Rock, I appreciate that feedback, I didn't think about it that way but you are exactly right. I paid for service with an amateur and that's indeed what I received, an amateur with zero skills. So I guess I can't be that frustrated looking back at the situation. Below are the reports from the sessions with the other two girls.
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Girl 2 - As my first experience was below average I decided to come back and give TAE another chance. This time while in the office the administrator gave me 5 different picture cards of available ladies to choose from. Again I chose one that seemed to have "big boobs" and a nice face. This time there was no confusion at the love hotel and my room was not given away like last time. My girl arrived about 5 minutes later and I would say her face didn't look anything like the picture card but her body seemed to be nice with her clothes on. She knew a bit more English than the first girl and had better overall energy. We jumped in the shower to freshen up and on to the bed. Body was great naked but face left a lot to be desired. I didn't let that deter me and we proceeded to have a great time. Once she started doing the move with rubbing vagina up and down on dick and using her hand with lots of lube it felt great she knew exactly what to do. I was ready to blow so I had to slow things down. Flipped her around and started a nice 69, that was a wonderful sight! Then got into missionary and I was just kissing her all around and when my dick got next to her vagina for a little rubbing she said yes hold on, then she grabbed a condom and put it on. There was no discussion about extras fees / charges she just put on the condom and I slowly went inside. It was nice just going with the flow. I finished up and we cuddled for a bit. I was waiting for her to tell me the extra cost but she never did. Wow, ok I thought that was nice of her to give me a free "special menu" session. I tipped her 8 k because although she wasn't the best looker she gave great service and had a nice body.
Girl 3 - Before leaving the country I had about 2 hrs of free time that I thought I could use to squeeze out one more session at TAE. When I met with the administrator, I guess this was a busy time because he only had 3 picture cards of available ladies. I told him to pick for me the most popular one, this would prove to be a BIG mistake. He said ok, I paid and he made the arrangements with the love hotel. I got the keys and went to my room and 10 minutes or so the girl shows up. She has a cute face I would say better than the first 2 so I was excited for good things to come. When we undressed to get into the shower things went down hill fast! I couldn't tell what I was looking at as her body seemed great with clothes on but with clothes off she had a lot of loose skin like she just had a baby! I never had this happen before in Japan, in my home country it has happened a few times. I was def disappointed in her body but there was nothing I could do at this point, I could send her away but the administrator isn't going to give me my money back so I decided to just get a BJ and call it a day. I asked her while on the bed if she just had a child and she said no kids but she was very big before and then she went on diet and lost a lot of weight! I was not trying to destroy her self esteem so I just said ok and left it alone. In my head I'm thinking this profession is probably not for you. Then I got mad at the admin for recommending this girl when I asked for most popular. There is no way in hell this girl is popular unless the Japanese have some sort of loose skin fetish that I don't know about. So I just closed my eyes and had her give me a BJ for a long long time before I eventually busted. It was a sad way to end my business trip but what can you do except keep swinging!
On a side note, as I was coming downstairs this older gentleman was walking up the stairs with a hottie, she was probably a 9/10 and if I wasn't heading to the airport, who knows, maybe I would have went back to the administrator and tried to book that beauty for the next day.
Tips for newbies (from my limited experience). You are not getting the girls in the pictures. I don't know if it's straight bait and switch or the heaviest amount of photoshop edits but whoever you think you are getting is not going to show up at your hotel or love hotel. Even though my sample size is only 3, I was 0 for 3 in terms of face matching picture. I'm sure if I went 20 times the result would still be the same. Don't trust the booker to pick someone popular or hot, from my experience the booker is going to pick someone who has been sitting on the sidelines to give her some work. Each interaction is going to vary wildly so YMMV is a very true statement. First girl said absolutely no to any special services regardless of how much money I was willing to pay, the other girl gave out special services for free and the last girl, well she was down for anything but unfortunately I was not. You are indeed (as Rick Rock mentioned) getting real amateur girls, so if you don't mind paying for girls that might not know what they are doing, or face and body not the greatest then by all means give the service a try, you could get lucky like that older gent on the stairs!
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03-11-26 23:35 #15008
Looking for dreams
Fantastic. Originally Posted by Vendelo
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Have done the same.
Multiple sessions and paid her to travel to USA as well.
A dream.
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03-11-26 10:30 #15007Exactly. Originally Posted by JnemodoeX
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I literally just returned home in the US after three weeks in Phnom Penh and Nha Trang. I holiday-GF a Khmer girl, 20, for a week who I met on literally her first day at a Phnom Penh bar. The owner, whom I've known for a year, introduced me to her. Then I holiday-GF-ed a girl, 25, in Nha Trang who I met on Tinder. I totally lucked out in crossing paths with her. She is a keeper.
Whoever created the Holiday GF business model is a god and should receive a Nobel. The idea of having 24/7 arm candy that wakes up next to you with zero visceral fat and soft feet and without the darn nagging of a real GF or wife is what makes me realize I can't and will not date another age-appropriate woman in the US. Not to mention I don't have to talk about remodeling my kitchen, re-landscaping the backyard, or remembering birthdays.
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03-11-26 10:04 #15006Every DH shop can be a bit different in their setup and how you order a girl. Here is my review of TAE: Originally Posted by Lion
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http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3002306 TAE Review
Here are links to TAE's own explanation of their system:
Here is the exact formula to calculate how much you will pay. Unlike many DH shops, TAE advertises before-tax rates. Like most DH shops, the further away you are from their shop (in Dogenzaka Shibuya), the more the delivery fee is. Originally Posted by Traveler X
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http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3016039 TAE cost formula
Here is how to negotiate for extra offerings:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3054911 DH Negotiations
Each girl decides what she offers. I've pointed out before that it seems new girls are labeled on TAE's site with a 3K discount. I always avoided them. So, that may be why I had very smooth sailing. One girl was hot but asked for a higher tip, another girl was butterface but cheap and awesome body and service, and another was very cute but we didn't vibe. She was nice enough and had good enough looks, but wasn't as enthusiastic as the other two girls. She was cooperative but passive like "you can do what you want", while the other two girls attacked me with their routine.
About every shop being different. TAE has a physical shop you can enter - many DH shops do not. Even if you speak Japanese, if you are not a local resident they will charge you the gaijin tax. But at least TAE's tax is small compared to most shops. If you are a local resident, even if you are not Japanese, you should be able to get the locals rate. Many shops follow this rule because it is about risk - tourists are more likely to run off without paying for example. Whereas a local resident who has a Japanese phone number can be tracked down and held accountable. Regardless of background, that is the perception. This was the same thing oppai pubs explained, but their POV is different since they at least have staff on-hand for security. So oppai pubs do not charge a foreigner tax. They'll simply sus out visitors regardless of tourist or locals. They'll refuse service to locals too who are too drunk or don't pass the sniff test.
About oppai pubs, I've posted this before but for those asking:
Also: Originally Posted by Traveler X
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http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...66#post2946666 Introduction to Japan
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3002870 Oppai pub rankings and update
There is a second smaller Manzoku shop. Attached is an image of how it looks. They can take you to all the same shops. Also attached is Super Angel.
Note that the 6000 yen (early bird) and 8000 yen promo rates are introductory rates. But as long as things are slow, the staff will call and ask the shop "We have a customer who visited you yesterday, can he come again at the promo rate?" And if the shop isn't busy, it's yes. Of course, if the Manzoku staff doesn't remember and you don't bring it up, they won't even mention that part. In 23 years of going oppai pubs, the oppai pub has never cared and always honored the promo rate. The staff who greet you, they aren't the boss and they don't care since it was Manzoku that introduced you. Same reason why they explain the rules in double time - as long as they said all the words to you, they are off the hook for their boss.
But it needs to be said that oppai pubs can get full. Friday Saturday especially, but sometimes any night 10pm or after. Some oppai pubs are open very late, I've seen 2am or 4am. But you need a taxi if you aren't staying local.
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03-11-26 06:20 #15005Great, informative post as usual. I am now thinking about trying one of these oppai clubs the next time I am back in Japan. Originally Posted by TravelerX
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Have you written any on ordering DH? I have had success, but it is always a bit of a challenge to place the order correctly in Japanese and I have no one to learn from.
I know the services in English are easy, but they tend to be a good bit more expensive.
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03-11-26 03:23 #15004Thanks for sharing that. Yeah, makes it feel a little more human when you realize you were paying for an extraordinary experience (compared to our normal lives). Originally Posted by Vendelo
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Appreciate it. Yeah I think this would be a different story if it I had spent the mortgage; for what it was, it was still great value for an unforgettable memory. Originally Posted by TravelerX
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Definitely. I realized I no longer needed to prove myself after that first time and especially in Fukuoka where I was more "on my own. " As for the Otearai question, my mistake was thinking they would deviate from the routine. Read the player-guide front and back but got lost in the sauce. For any future first-timers I would also suggest they don't try to "figure it out" as if their experience will be the exception. Even if you can't really hear them (like in my case), best to mentally follow the script. Originally Posted by TravelerX
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Beginner friendly for sure. Lack of pressure is probably why I liked it so much LOL. Your experience was not my experience though. All the girls I saw were definitely Japanese. And the girls didn't have numbers, it was just the regular random girl assignment like others. Not as hot as other clubs like you said though. Originally Posted by TravelerX
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Thanks again for the advice and words of wisdom. I'm sure next time will be even smoother.
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03-11-26 00:47 #15003Yeah, they call it "Ketsueki-gata". Originally Posted by AussieGaigin
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https://savvytokyo.com/a-crash-cours...d-type-theory/
You can find out your blood type with any blood test or even when you donate blood. It's easy to detect.
You would normally find that out early on in life, but even if you know it they will test again to make sure if you get into any emergency situation.
But East Asian people will ask you it all the time when it comes to dating, so it's good to know if you want to go that route.
FYI most Japanese are A or O.
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03-11-26 00:43 #15002No offense but this is a really strange take. You went to an amateur place and seem peeved that they gave you an amateur. The entire point of TAE is that you're getting skinny fresh girls who are new to sex. Originally Posted by MaximusV
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03-10-26 13:44 #15001
More about you than TAE
Just no thank you .22 K no extras? Originally Posted by MaximusV
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03-10-26 08:27 #15000
The following post is a long commentary on oppai pubs aka sekukyaba. If you're not interested, please skip!
When you use Manzoku to go to oppai pubs, they give you the promo rate of 6000 (early bird) or 8000 yen for 40 mins. This is better than full price of 10000 or 12000 yen ($76) at some shops. The full rate is also the 40 minute extension rate. So by default, most people don't extend. What you can do is use Manzoku to enter yet another shop for 8000 yen for 40 mins. But when I found a true favorite girl, I do extend her because she's worth it. Originally Posted by JnemodoeX
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You did very well. You saw hot girls and made it far with them. Yes you could potentially have turned down the last girl and saved money, but you did like her and had a fun memory. You even got her rival interested in you, you won't forget it. There are other clubs where the girls aren't as hot, and people can end up paying for an okay time but not what you got. And I think it is good value compared to DH.
The advice I give to "English only" tourists is different than "some Japanese" tourists. Anyone who can speak some Japanese should go Hosekinobako and Leicster. Whereas Luxe is the most foreigner / English friendly. But anyone with a Japanese friend can enter any club, then they are free to re-enter them.
I ranked them as Hosekinobako, Leicester, Sweater Moon, Club Sexy, Luxe, Super Angel:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3001752 Oppai club guide
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3002310 Manzoku
Sexy and Angel both have hot girls, but the service levels is tamer.
I can't get the Manzoku google maps link to work, so I'll attach an image showing how to walk there. Their shop sign is a black bat and there are a bunch of "18 and up" curtains. You can use Don Quijote and Famimart as checkpoints. Walk past all black touts and don't speak with them.
If you are a gentleman with good manners and hygene, then most girls are happy to do everything. The main rule is not to touch a girl's pussy. I would keep it natural and make sure the girl is comfortable. As you saw, most girls know how to have a good time and a few will even take the lead.
For those who can speak some Japanese, this is how it feels at first. Don't worry about it. I'll say that once Manzoku confirms your Japanese, you are set. It is not a high bar, maybe just 2 to 4 years of Japanese. No more tests by either the escort or the shop. Avoid Golden Week holiday. Originally Posted by JnemodoeX
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The "20 minute wait" is normal, I've gotten 40 or 60 minute wait sometimes in later hours. Hosekinobako opens 5pm and Leicester opens 7pm. right after opening and Mon-Thu are less congested. There are busy days and times where they are "full" and you can't go.
For those in this situation, they'll say some variant of "Otearai wa daijobu desu ka?" with the key word Otearai. For those interested, see the oppai pub guide where the sequence is explained: Originally Posted by JnemodoeX
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I know it is a lot to read the full guide, but that's how manuals are. If you've ever seen those kung fu dramas where a guy picks up a scroll and he can do kung fu after reading them, that's why I write them. I've written oppai pub tips for 22 years and I'm getting too old. It's someone else's turn to see these young women and lick their tits. Originally Posted by Traveler X
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One tip I give is if you find your girl, just nominate her. I mean it, the next girl could be better or worse but if you truly like a girl then it's as close to a 100% good time as you can predict. You say "shimei shitai" and the girl will signal to staff with a hand down gesture which means she is all yours. You "keep" her. If this is the 1st girl out of 3, it means she stays for all 3 rounds instead of 2 more girls. Whereas if it is the last girl, then it would mean you need to combo it with a time extension. Just extend by 40 mins by default. Nominating a girl is pretty cheap, it's the extension that costs more at full rate. Originally Posted by JnemodoeX
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It's normal to turn down a girl you later regret, we've all done it. I'm sure we've also nominated a girl where a better girl was just around the corner, we'll never know. There's no wrong choice! If you do regret turning down a girl, you can just nominate her next visit. If she gave you a card, use it for a significant discount. The catch is she might not be working the next time. The staff will return the card to you and usually even honor the discount. I have actually used this method to get the discount for a girl I knew wasn't there lol.
They send you 3 girls for a reason. There is a good chance one of them is your type, but no one can predict which one it is or what order. As you saw, they definitely want you to find your girl. That's how they make the most money.
Yes, that's the only reason I write these guides. I'm getting too old, it's your turn. Originally Posted by JnemodoeX
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Super Angel is beginner friendly. It's a good club in two ways: the pricing is all-inclusive of girl's drinks so no upsell pressure, and they have many girls in a 'cabaret' style lineup. It's been so long since I went but they had a number on each girl and you'd say the number of the girl you wanted. Each guy would 'draft' his girl! That's the plus side. The first downside is the times I went, many of the girls weren't Japanese (but Asian), and the second downside is they aren't as hot as the top oppai pubs. But they were hot and I did go back. My first visit was 23 years ago, most other shops did not survive this long. I feel like the better oppai pubs have more girls fawn over you and give better service due to the upsell potential. Originally Posted by JnemodoeX
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Yes, Hosekinobako is an open club where you can look around. It has a lot of S-Tier and A-Tier girls. The few B-Tier girls even know their own level so they will act extra cute to compensate lol. Hosekinobako is the furthest walk from Manzoku and you have to cross a street. Just know that when you exit just know there might be an Asian tout trying to get you to talk but you ignore them and keep walking. I've seen him every year - do not use him or any tout in Kabukicho. Originally Posted by JnemodoeX
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Most of the time, you can nominate a girl on the spot to keep her. Or maybe another guy nominates a girl so off she goes (this is rare). However, sometimes the staff pulls a girl to give her "the talk". That's when you get a substitute girl like you did. The talk is where he explains that here is a legit customer who doesn't look like a bum, and there are stars in his eyes when he looks at her. So, get his contact, get him to come back, and sell him champagne. As you mentioned, this is the girl's second day. She isn't a pro at this, she didn't intend to do this but that's now her job. I've had some very nice girls do the same thing, they never pressured me but they were so sweet it is hard to say no. So like Bribs and I, we say try different things or say "maybe next time" on champagne. It is very tough saying no to a girl who treats you so well, I know it. Originally Posted by JnemodoeX
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Make sure to get a girl's name / card so you can nominate her. I will sometimes even ask a girl's schedule for the week to plan a visit when she is there. If a girl you like gives you GPS, just move on. You can change girls by calling the staff and nominating any other girl. Then lick her rival's tits.
Originally Posted by JnemodoeX
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Worse things have happened to people.I was shocked- she brought me a gift!..They would offer me the bottle for half off plus another 40 minutes for free. I caved. I was probably never going to see this girl again and wanted to enjoy my time with her..Also funny enough, the other girl texted me complaining that she saw me at the club that night and that I didn't nominate her. Oops. She sent me a sexy video to try wooing me..
The reason I recommend Manzoku is they are next level professional, they know what they are doing. There are a dozen other 24-hour info booths that are copycats of Manzoku, but the staff are clueless. It is a night and day difference. Originally Posted by JnemodoeX
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I hope you keep winning. Attached is how to walk from Don Quijote to Manzoku. The second image shows Donki with Godzilla head in the background. Third image shows Donki on the left and a Famimart on the right. You want to walk straight down Kabukicho Sakura-dori (blue sign). Fourth image shows a closeup of the Family Mart. Then the walk until you see Manzoku on the left. During daytime, the place is shuttered so that is the google street image of it. At night, it's full of "18 and up" curtains. Their staff are all in business suits, some might stand just outside to greet you.
Last two images are the first girl I got at Hosekinobako and the first girl I got at Leicester. Photo accurate. Hostess clubs and oppai pubs usually are exactly perfect accurate, unlike most DH / fs photos.
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03-10-26 05:20 #14999I've been there and wrote about it. Originally Posted by JnemodoeX
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Tl; dr.
I sessioned with a girl at THC. Top 3 most beautiful girls I have ever been with. I opted for two hours, FS and sans condom. Cost me a fortune. I went for it because what are the chances of an older gent like me banging a smokin' 22-year old Japanese girl in Japan? Pretty much zero.
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03-10-26 02:03 #14998Seems to be a cultural thing, related to perceived personal "compatibility". Much the same as westerners match star signs. Originally Posted by JoeThighsMan
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I get regular blood tests; I asked my doctor what type I was, he didn't know because they don't test for that any more. Maybe it only matters if you're getting a transfusion.
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03-10-26 01:37 #14997
TAE Experience
I had a few days in Tokyo on business but had a packed itinerary so didn't have time to explore or practice the hobby as much as I would like. I did have the opportunity to try TAE 3 times during my trip. When they say that YMWV, that might be an understatement, what I found in every interaction is you are just rolling the dice on basically everything (from body type, to secret menu, to attraction, to even just basic services! When ordering just don't get your hopes up and don't have any expectations except that you will have a release at some point. Given the price point, this type of arrangement might be fine for some Gents but I did not like it. I booked all women directly with the administrator at the TAE office and used the connected love hotel next door.
Girl 1 - I selected a girl with "big boobs" from about 7 picture cards of available talent. I paid the administrator around 22 k and he called the love hotel to tell them to expect me and got me a room number, he told me to tell the front desk I am there for room number 403 and pay for the room. I am 100% sure that my girl was given to another Monger who had walked into the love hotel 30 seconds before me because the front desk was giving him the keys to my room number. I tried to tell the front desk that was my room but the interaction was lost in translation.
I went back to TAE office and they arranged another room and of course now my big boob girl was with another monger and the next girl that came was tall and skinny, small boobs and no ass. I thought to myself to just make the best of it. In the room, the girl tried to make some light conversation, she was nice enough in the traditional polite Japanese way. I was just not all that into her as she was too skinny and didn't do it for me. After the shower, we got on the bed and she gave the usual tongue bath. Really felt like she was going through the motions, not a GFE experience. The worst part was just lightly touching her vagina seemed like it was the first time she ever got touched. She would make those dumb loud fake moaning noises that made me immediately lose my erection. I sucked her nipples same dumb loud moaning. I thought to myself let me just try to bust a nut and get the heck out of here. Most of the simulated sex from a delivery health service where the girl is sliding up and down on your dick with her vagina while using her hand usually to me feels very good. Well of course this girl didn't know how to do it properly. I then said I would like to have sex, I can pay 10 k. She said sorry she doesn't offer that service. I said I can offer 20 k. She still declined and said she never has sex. Ok great my option now was just to leave or try to bust from a blow job. I guided her head down to where it needed to be and had to really concentrate and after 15 minutes of intense concentration I was able to get off from a mediocre BJ. I knew I had to try the service again because this interaction just seemed like bad luck and since the Bro's on this board talk this place up so much I felt the next experience would be much better.
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03-09-26 20:20 #14996
Confidence, Oppai, and Learning Experiences
As a preface, I've been going to Japan for quite a few years. Speak some Japanese but was honestly really rusty going into this trip. I had been reading all the reports on Manzoku and got a little worried that they would steer me towards the English-only services. This fear was unfounded, read on for details.
Huge thanks for Traveler X, Rick, & everyone else on the forum for all the reports. I was only going to be in Tokyo for a little bit and wanted something other than just delivery-health-type services. I'm a younger monger and many people asked me if I was half (Japanese) so YMMV.
Long post so I'll put a TLDR at the bottom. I can break it up if needed.
1) Succubus Shisha Lounge.
Shisha is hookah in Japan, but this is a themed lounge where all the girls are dressed like Succubi. I had never actually tried hookah before but this was all just flavor, so really easy for a non-smoker.
It was something like 5000 yen for nomihoudai + shisha. I went to the Kabukicho location (Abyss) and it was decently spacious. Bar area + lounge seating on the other side. At least 5/6 different girls entertaining the customers at any given time. Nice space and a very open concept. Nomihoudai as well.
I walked in and said it was my first time. I let them know that I wasn't familiar with hookah and wanted their recommendations for flavor. They suggested I try something fruity for my first time and then they gave me a menu. They honestly had a lot of flavors, so it was a little overwhelming. I ended up going with a Strawberry Milk flavor. I put that in and a drink order at the same time. It does take a little bit of time to prepare the shisha (maybe around 10 minutes) so the girl that greeted me spent some time chatting with me. When I got my shisha I was honestly a little confused on how to smoke from it, but realized the colored little plastic bits on the table were disposable mouthpieces. You pop one in the end of the hose like an attachment and have to take a decent inhale. When you hear the liquid bubbling you'll know it's actually evaporating. I may have had an embarrassing puff or two of absolutely nothing.
The women there were really friendly. They would stand or sit next to you, occasionally asking if they could take a puff with their own mouthpiece. When they ask for this, you've got to take yours off and then hand them the hose. I do believe you can buy them drinks and bottles, but I didn't. I did get a polaroid in the end with one that was I was having a good time with.
Probably about twice a male staff member came by (not dressed like a succubus thankfully) and switched out the coals heating the hookah. They will also test the hookah so you will once again have to take your mouth piece off.
While I was talking to the staff, they were also telling me about all the other locations they have. Most are in Tokyo but they have one in Osaka and one in Nagoya opening up this month. I did end up going to the Osaka location and will write a review on in the appropriate thread.
Overall, really fun experience. It was a pretty great way to warm up since in between silence you can alternate between taking a sip or a puff. There was definitely no tobacco, and 99% sure there was no nicotine. For the price, novelty, and not being harmful- worth it in my book.
2) Manzoku (Sekukyaba's specifically).
This is a tale about self-confidence. Belief in oneself.
I arrived in Tokyo tired. Due to an error in the system I was unable to book premium or business on the way there, so I got very little sleep. I had yet to practice speaking to anyone in Japanese yet as well, so I had two things going against me. Earlier reports mentioned the best girls were at Leicester and Hoseki- but you had to speak Japanese. I did, but was it good enough? Would they turn me away for my crappy sleep-deprived Japanese?
Regardless, I wasn't leaving Tokyo without trying. I had no plans the first day, so after getting settled at my hotel, I took a trip to Kabukicho. I decided to stroll further down Sakura-dori to where earlier posters indicated Manzoku station was. Really easy to spot. To be honest, I got a little embarrassed when considering if I should enter. It's got all these posters of girls and the classic 18+ only sign on the front. I didn't want to blatantly look like a gooner, but ultimately decided it was nothing to be ashamed of, especially considering I was in Kabukicho. 5 seconds of embarrassment. Whatever.
I walked up to the curtain and older gentleman outside turned to me. "What are you looking for? He asks in Japanese. "Oppai clubs? I asked, in Japanglish. "We have those. Come inside".
He showed me a couple posters of some of the clubs and then confirms if I speak Japanese. I told him honestly that I speak some Japanese but am a little rusty since I haven't used it in a bit. I also let him know it was my first time at an oppai club and would like an explanation of their system. He seemed pleased by this. He told me about what you can and cannot do (truth is that the rules are a little more flexible depending on the girl, but of course YMMV). He was also being a bro by telling me not to not extend on my first visit and not buy too much for any girl.
Leicester
It was around 7 so he suggested I check out Leicester. I was stoked since earlier reports praised Leicester. He called them up and and said he had a Japanese-speaking foreigner. 20 minute wait. That was fine by me so I agreed. We made some small talk for a bit and I was trying my best to not expose myself as a phony.
After a few minutes his colleague came to guide me to the store. He was dead-silent the whole walk, only occasionally glancing back to make sure I didn't get left behind. Once we got to the building I decided to prove myself and make a little small talk in the elevator. After that he spoke only in rapid-fire Japanese. We get to the door of Leicester and he goes over the rules again (in 2 x speed). Luckily the bro at Manzoku already explained, so it wasn't too hard to follow along. I asked a simple question to something he said to show I wasn't pretending to listen. After this he hands me off to the staff.
I walk inside and am greeted by blaring music. Honestly the dichotomy of the peaceful hallway to the loud cloud threw me off, so when the staff first started talking to me (in rapid fire Japanese, as usual), I had no idea what he said. I probably looked lost so he asked again in English. "Do you need to use the bathroom?" Gah, damnit. I read about this and should've figured that out from context. Oh well. I responded simply that I was alright and he led me to my table. He reiterated that it was going to be a 20 minute way and then asked for my drink order. I'm not really a beer kind of guy, but something about a cold asahi or sapporo hits just right in Japan. Ordered one of those and tried to look around at the girls while sipping. Unfortunately, I was seated in the section closest to the door and couldn't really see all that much. I had a partial view of one girl and a 3/4 angle of another. It was pretty amazing seeing her climb onto the dude's lap and take her top off. Damn. Still, I was stuck waiting. They gave me some complimentary snacks while I waited.
After probably 30 minutes, the first girl came. I wasn't too pleased with the wait but that all disappeared when I saw her. An 8/10 plopped down right next to me and graciously handed me her card. I was a little nervous but she was easy to talk to. I told her it was my first time at an oppai club and she playfully informed me that she preferred the term sekukyaba. Asked me a lot of questions like if I lived there, how long my trip was, etc. Then she asked if it was okay to do. Something. Huh? I said sure out of reflex. Then she climbed on my lap and stared into my eyes. Oh, damn. I was not familiar with that phrase in Japanese. Wasn't really something my ear was primed to listen for. Something I soon became familiar with. Made out with her, talked, made out some more. Before I knew it, time was up with her. She said goodbye and told me to have fun on my trip. In hindsight I should have just kept her or at least bought her a drink, but I got lost in the moment. Something something 20/20.
I got another beer and waited for the next girl. Less pretty than the first, and but still fun to talk to. I learned my lesson and got her a drink. She was a little quicker to start kissing and actually showed me the goods. Maybe because I got her a drink early, but I ended up spending the most time with her of all 3.
After our time ran out, rotated to the last girl. She was even less pretty, and not as friendly. After probably a minute of talking she asked to hop on my lap but said it in yet another way with no gesturing. I asked her to repeat what she said and she seemed little irritated. I got her a drink to soothe her nerves. She didn't really want to talk to just let her body do the talking. Fine by me. Probably 7 minutes max before the male staff came by with the bill asking if I wanted to extend. I wasn't super familiar with the vocabulary specific to this industry, but I essentially told them that I was okay with not extending. They gave me my bill (ended up being higher than I expected since taxes / service charges weren't included in the quoted price) and I went on my merry way.
Even though this ended up being my "worst" experience (still pretty good), I walked out of there a changed man. Soap lands and delivery health are fun, sure. But this was honestly more enjoyable. Especially for the price. As I ruminated on this feeling, I harkened back to when Traveler X wrote feeling something similar around my age in Nagoya. I got it now. And yes, after absorbing so much of Traveler X's advice in USAG and here I decided to pay homage with my name.
Hoseki
The next day, around 5 I decided to try checking out Hoseki. Emboldened by my prior success.
Went back to Manzoku and saw the bro from previous day. He greeted me warmly and asked how it was. I told him I really enjoyed it and asked if he had other recommendations. He said since my Japanese was good, I could check out Super Angel or Hoseki. I hadn't heard about Super Angel, so I asked him about it. Basically, it's a huge club. Over 40 girls working that night. Higher entry fee but girls' drinks are included. Hell yeah. I was down but I told him that I wanted to see Hoseki first. He called and said it was a 15 minute wait. I agreed and he immediately led me over himself. We made more small talk on the way there.
Once inside I was again asked if I wanted to use the bathroom. I was prepared this time. After that I was once again given snacks and had my drink order taken. And again, I was in a corner in the back with a not-so-great view of the the rest of the action. Since it was early, there was not a lot going on. When some girls started coming in, I was starstruck. They were way hotter. So many S-tier girls in one place. An A-tier girl came, kneeled and handed me her card, then sat next to me. Unlike Leicester, each girl asked for a drink after a few minutes of conversation. Had fun for a bit then she had to go. While I was waiting for my second girl, I saw this gorgeous S-tier walk by. I was hoping on my lucky stars that she would come by table. Her body was exactly my type. After about 2 minutes she came over, kneeled, and gave me her card. Her card had her name written in sharpie, so I figured that she was new. I later found out that this was her second day on the job. Sometimes you get lucky. Talked, got a drink, kanpai'd, then she asked if she could hop on. She had no problem flashing her G-cups (Japanese size granted, but still) to win me over. We "talked" for a bit but then staff came by and tapped her shoulder that something came up. I was confused because she said she'd be right back, but then another girl came to replace her! I figured her time was up and she was just being flirty or something. I talked to the new girl for a bit, got her a drink, but she was a little stiff. Figured sometimes it's best to be direct. Asked her if kissing was okay. Then an explanation- she was just a sub and was filling in so I didn't get bored. She couldn't touch me and this wasn't going against my time. I was surprised at the service. After a bit, my busty friend returned and they switched places. Made out and felt her up for a bit, then she asked if I had LINE. We exchanged info and then off to the last girl.
Slightly less my type than the girl she replaced, but like 90% of girls at Hoseki, still just gorgeous. The last one was definitely new, but this one was a pro. Her laugh so cute. Her compliments perfectly aimed. Cherry lips that tasted oh-so-sweet (I don't vape but she kept making out with me with the taste still on her lips and encouraged me to try- best flavor in my limited opinion). We had a wonderful time but too soon the bill-bearer approached. I figured I'd extend just once (bad idea #1). The extension ran it's course at 3 x speed and the staff approached yet again.
"Would you like to extend? They asked.
No, I wouldn't fall that easily. I refused. So I paid the man and he ran off to get my change. Meanwhile she swapped LINEs with me (bad idea #2) and kept making out with me, even when the staff returned with my change and playfully chided that my time was up. Good cop / bad cop routine. She walked me out (and made out with me along the way) until I broke away out of fear of getting in trouble. I stumbled out of there with my will wavering. This would lead to bad decisions, I knew. But damn if those weren't the best girls.
Later that night both would text me and urge me to come back, but alas, I had only one more free night in Tokyo that I could use to see them. I did call and ask if double-nomination was possible- it is. But I refused to be that delusional. I forced myself to either see a new set of girls or just nominate one.
Still, my issues aside, this was the best oppai club I had gone to in terms of quality. Highly recommend it if you can swing it.
Another day when I did return to Manzoku and asked if it was possible to use Manzoku and nominate a girl, they informed me it was not possible and warned me against nomination in general due to the much higher fees associated. They tried to warn me but I didn't listen (mistake #3).
Later that night I went to Hoseki by myself and nominated the very last girl I saw. Gave them her card and that waived the nomination fee. Much better seating in the middle of all the action. I got the substitute while I was waiting for her. We made some small talk then my girl to greet me. I was shocked- she brought me a gift! But this was a ruse. A setup. She told me that earlier in the week it was her birthday, and she had a special birthday bottle of champagne. I bought her a drink but refused the champaign. 80000 yen was ridiculous! Oh well. We kept chatting and she kept trying to nudge me into the bottle. I was standing my ground. It was just way too expensive. All the while one of the staff kept bringing me free shots of tequila. People kept ordering the tequila ferris-wheel and he would make a beeline to me. I probably had like 4-5 shots. And then he asked me close to the end of my time if I wanted to buy a birthday bottle for her. Then "why not? Hard sell from both of them. Even harder when she's on my lap and I'm 2 beers + a few shots in. Still, I refuse and say it's too expensive. He offers to reduce it by 30000. She tells him no, that she will offer it for 20000 cheaper but not that cheap (LOL). I refuse a few times and he leaves. Then the bill comes with an offer I can't refuse (mistake #4). They would offer me the bottle for half off plus another 40 minutes for free. I caved. I was probably never going to see this girl again and wanted to enjoy my time with her. It didn't even taste that great, but I got a "free" key-chain charm of her with a goofy face.
Do I regret it? Yeah a bit. I was more than able to afford it, but it was the principle of spending more than I wanted to at a club like this. Expensive lesson, but one I'm taking to heart. Heed my warning, fellow mongers. I'm keeping that charm to remind myself LOL.
Also funny enough, the other girl texted me complaining that she saw me at the club that night and that I didn't nominate her. Oops. She sent me a sexy video to try wooing me but alas, I had no more time for mongering in Tokyo at this point. I would say next-time, but I usually go to Japan once a year / every other year. So maybe not.
Super Angel
Like I had said at the beginning of the Hoseki review, Manzoku staff told me this was a huge operation. Huge operation it was indeed. Very large floor. I only ever saw maybe half of it in total. Lots of girls all over the place. I think they also open at 7 PM.
This place has a higher fee since the girls' drinks are included. Plus in my experience, I usually always got a little more time than I should've (and closer to 5 girls than 3). I liked having more variety since there were so many girls. You pay before you go in, strangely enough. I believe it was 10000 or 11000 yen.
If were to rate the girls, I would say somewhere between Luxe and Leicester but closer to Leicester. All the girls were really friendly and happy to pretty much immediately jump on your lap. It's a slightly faster pace per girl so none of the encounters were as memorable to me as the other clubs, but one girl was a wizard with her tongue piercing. I'll miss her dearly.
Overall I really liked this club. If you're trying to just kiss cute girls and enjoy some oppai without getting attached, this is the place. You could probably go every day for the better part of a week and not run into any repeats.
TLDR
Succubus Shisha bar is fun. Worth a try and fun to talk to the girls there.
Manzoku is legit. As previous posters say, Hoseki has the most beautiful girls. Leicester was nice. Enjoyed the huge variety at Super Angel.
Don't buy bottles or get attached. That's how you 5 x your bill at a minimum. Otherwise great value.
I had some experiences in Fukuoka as well so I will post in the Hakata thread if anyone's interested. Not a ton of info there so hopefully it will help someone out.
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03-09-26 18:19 #14995
Advice on Soapland by Haneda Airport
I am currently planning a trip to Kuala Lumpur later this year (not for mongering purposes) departing from US east coast. I have not made any travel arrangements yet just searching air fares at this point. I am trying to avoid transiting through Middle East for obvious reasons. So the alternative route is through one of the major Asian air hubs. One cost effective itinerary I found involved rather long layovers at Haneda airport in Tokyo 6. 5 hours westbound and 12.5 hours on return. Whenever I find myself with long layovers like this I immediately think about how to spend the time and can I squeeze in a little entertainment. This brings me to the Japan forum to check out the possibilities.
So after reading through the forum here some and checking out quite a few of the (many, many) websites describing the Japan nightlife scene I now have my heart set on hitting up a Japan soapland. This was not exactly on my bucket list before but it is now. Unfortunately the long 12 hour layover is from 10 PM to 10 AM and this is when all the soaplands are closed. So this leaves me with the possibility of hitting up a soapland in a 6. 5 layover between 5 PM and 11:30 PM. It might be a tight timeline but I think it could be accomplished. But I wanted to get some thoughts from those more familiar with the logistics and travel in Tokyo to see if this is doable or just not a realistic plan.
From my research I think best bet is to visit a soapland in the Kawasaki / Kanagawa area. It looks like transit time from Haneda to the district is slightly less than half hour either be cab or train. To travel up to Yoshiwara would be more than twice as far and be over an hour. Since the timeline will be tight Kawasaki / Kanagawa area might be best bet. Fortunately there are multiple soaplands in the area.
My question to the forum is do you think the 6.5 hour window is sufficient time to clear customs, get through airport, travel to soapland, partake in a 2 hour session (I could shorten if necessary but prefer the longer), travel back to airport and get back through security and to my gate?
Given I am relegated to Kawasaki region, could you recommend a soapland? Obvious priority is they would have to accept foreigners, preferably they would accept walk ins (as I am reluctant to preschedule given the uncertainty about arrival time, etc), and would love an English speaker but realize that might be rather unlikely. Price is not a big issue as long as it would not be way above the prevailing rates. And I am would not try to zero in on a particular body type, etc. I am sure I would find somebody to my liking.
My final question. In my research I visited a dozen or so soapland websites (throughout Tokyo not just Kawasaki). The pictures of the ladies are incredible. Although faces are often obscured not all are. And the appearance and the figures seem almost too good to be true. I realize there is a lot of bait and switch, exaggeration and just pure BS in the P4 P industry worldwide. So from those with experience how accurate are these soapland website pics?
Thanks in advance for thoughts / advice.
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