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[PhilJoy]

You might try ABC for a change up. It is further away from the action. I enjoy ABC even though it costs more. The Koreans do not overrun the place.

Thanks DG, I'll look into ABC for future visits. Money isn't too much of a problem for me and I generally save that through not paying bar fines and 'compensating' my contacts directly when I'm in town.

I've booked the WO for another business trip soon. I'll take a look at the ABC when I arrive. Phil.

[Dg8787]

Thanks Dg, it was just a matter of getting some feedback here on ABC rather than relying fluffy internet reviews, which are lots of google translated Korean reviews. Not so much an issue of changing from WO. Always been happy there. Just checking out alternative options. Phil.

You might try ABC for a change up. It is further away from the action. I enjoy ABC even though it costs more. The Koreans do not overrun the place.

[Old And Ugly]

Only topless. Did they change?

I don't know how many times I have to repeat it: NAKED, no clothes on, bare pussy, nude, etc.

Anyway this is the Angeles forum, that was just an observation, related to a side trip, maybe in the Thai forum there is more info about it. I was in BK visiting an old friend, a Thai girl, that lives in the US, and went back to Thailand to extend her nose. She is a pervert (a very sexy one), always wanted to see what's going on inside those bars, but could not go in there by herself, so she dragged me to Nana, Cowboy, and Patpong, inside every single bar, most of them in and out, but we had a few drinks where she wanted to stay longer, and they were always the bars with the naked girls, therefore I replied to the post about no nudity, because I just been there, other wise I don't really care to convince anybody about anything, I'm way past that in my existence. Living on the beach, with a sexy babe beside you, sounds exciting, and it really is, but sometimes it is boring if you had an active lifestyle before that. That's the only reason I'm writing here once in a while.

[GreenBud]

Nana plaza 2nd and 3rd floor, lots of them.

Only topless. Did they change?

[Old And Ugly]

Staff at amsterdam is horrible got a battle axe that runs the front desk, Amsterdam is due for a renovation imo, even their suite has hospital beds or what feels like a hospital bed in them. As grand central hotel is open that is the best option imo, softer beds and better wifi speeds and right now priced lower than amsterdam.

Score birds imo offers the best value in AC in terms of quality, internet and value and if you care about your knees score birds has a working elevator.

Only thing that bothers me about score birds is I guess also why vikings got shut down? The annoying baklas that relentlessly harass you to try to get your dick in their hands / orifice in these massage places during your walk to / from walking street. If you are listening score birds please have a talk with these men and ask them to politely ask maybe once per trip but continuous harassment is not fun.

Score birds should work out a secret walking street exit with some property on the other side imo. Looks like Level 3 is right behind it could work out a deal with the rock bar guy and have "Kama'aina Loyalty" members use this secret shortcut.

I stayed at both, and to me Royal Amsterdam seems more updated, and closer to western standards.

Front desk, was always nice to me, and the beds are big and hard, not bouncing back when pounding, they have also sofas, with big round armrests, perfect for practicing circus acts. Yes the WiFi is slow sometimes, but when in Angeles, I don't care about TikTok too much, and I didn't turned on the TV for about 20 years now (just some Netflix, and Youtube very rarely, but never while in Angeles).

Of course is always a matter of personal preferences, and past experiences maybe other guys prefer a softer bed, more relaxation and entertainment when indoor.

I'm a bit old world fashioned, and I always give the front desk when I'm checking in a few hundreds pesos to buy chocolates, and when I buy fruit on the street I get a few extras for them, and the porter. When I see the housekeeping girls I pass them 100 pesos, a few dollars doesn't matter for us, but it makes their day a lot brighter. I'm not advertising for them, everybody has preferred places, and places they hate, I'm just relating my experience. Last time I stayed there was last week, and it was very productive, only threesomes, and four hands naked massages, things that I can't have no more since I moved in the province.

[Old And Ugly]

Which ones? I was there last December. Over the years, there has been a trend in Thailand of eliminating organized, full nudity (less nudity in Bangkok and Pattaya). I've peeked my head into most of the bars in Nana (except several on the second floor, lol); didn't see any.

Nana plaza 2nd and 3rd floor, lots of them.

[Old And Ugly]

'too much going on, too pushy, too aggressive'. Angeles? Or Nana Plaza?

Nana Plaza.

[GreenBud]

Been to Bangkok few months ago, I saw topples, and totally nude dancers in Nana Plaza,

Which ones? I was there last December. Over the years, there has been a trend in Thailand of eliminating organized, full nudity (less nudity in Bangkok and Pattaya). I've peeked my head into most of the bars in Nana (except several on the second floor, lol); didn't see any.

[PhilJoy]

I think Central Park is a good compromise. Newer and more renovated than Wild Orchid and better located but not as plush as ABC. If easy proximity to WS is important (and why else would you be in that shit hole town anyway?) then better to stay walking distance to most of the bars. Less dealing with Trike Mafia or grab rides. But by all accounts, it seems not worth the trip any more. Go to Cebu or somewhere else instead.

Thanks Expat.

Yes, I generally do Cebu more often but it depends on where work takes me.

WO has always been handy with girls I know on Blow Row and I have a good stack of WhatsApp contacts built up over time and lots of trips, so WS isn't my go-to.

Yes, agree, the place is a shithole, but you can definitely have some fun in your downtime. Thanks for the Central Park info. I was basically just looking at all my options and thought I'd ask the question here from those with experience. All is appreciated. Phil.

[PhilJoy]

ABC will cost you more than WO. If you are satisfied with WO then why change?

Thanks Dg, it was just a matter of getting some feedback here on ABC rather than relying fluffy internet reviews, which are lots of google translated Korean reviews. Not so much an issue of changing from WO. Always been happy there. Just checking out alternative options. Phil.

[Dg8787]

Lots of full nudity in Thai Go-Gos in Bangkok? Which ones? Please enlighten us. I only know of 4. I am always looking for more of them. I like to have a cold beer in front of naked girls.

Of course, I know you won't answer that question. You've been to Bangkok as many times as you've been to Angeles.

He might have been having drinks in the LB Go-Go bars with full nudity. I have heard they are full nudity. He could be correct.

[WestCoast1]

in Nana Plaza, but compared to Angeles, there is too much going on, too pushy, too aggressive.

'too much going on, too pushy, too aggressive'. Angeles? Or Nana Plaza?

[ThreeInches]

Royal Amsterdam Hotel, is in the best mongering location. Not suitable for long term stays, but perfect for the 1-2 weeks bed activities. Rooms are around 3 K / night.

Staff at amsterdam is horrible got a battle axe that runs the front desk, Amsterdam is due for a renovation imo, even their suite has hospital beds or what feels like a hospital bed in them. As grand central hotel is open that is the best option imo, softer beds and better wifi speeds and right now priced lower than amsterdam.

Score birds imo offers the best value in AC in terms of quality, internet and value and if you care about your knees score birds has a working elevator.

Only thing that bothers me about score birds is I guess also why vikings got shut down? The annoying baklas that relentlessly harass you to try to get your dick in their hands / orifice in these massage places during your walk to / from walking street. If you are listening score birds please have a talk with these men and ask them to politely ask maybe once per trip but continuous harassment is not fun.

Score birds should work out a secret walking street exit with some property on the other side imo. Looks like Level 3 is right behind it could work out a deal with the rock bar guy and have "Kama'aina Loyalty" members use this secret shortcut.

[Old And Ugly]

Hi Guys, got a business trip lined up in a few months and will have a week in AC again after MNL and maybe a visit to Sabang to catch up with some talented contacts. I normally stay at the Wild Orchid in AC. Yes, it's dated but I've never really had a problem with it. Good food, conveniently located on Blow Row and good staff. Just wondering if ABC is worth the hype? I see their reviews are comparable and ABC is a bit more pricey of the two _ Cheers _ Phil.

Royal Amsterdam Hotel, is in the best mongering location. Not suitable for long term stays, but perfect for the 1-2 weeks bed activities. Rooms are around 3 K / night.

[Old And Ugly]

Lots of full nudity in Thai Go-Gos in Bangkok? Which ones? Please enlighten us. I only know of 4. I am always looking for more of them. I like to have a cold beer in front of naked girls.

Of course, I know you won't answer that question. You've been to Bangkok as many times as you've been to Angeles.

Been to Bangkok few months ago, I saw topples, and totally nude dancers in Nana Plaza, but compared to Angeles, there is too much going on, too pushy, too aggressive.