Pattaya Reports

[Sofiy]

AGREED. Soi 6 is designed for 1,000 thb ST 1 Hour Upstairs. If guys want to take girls home before midnight, they should go somewhere else. The entire point of Soi 6 is having the rooms upstairs so girls can have multiple customers per night. I'm glad Nightwish and other bars make the barfine expensive before midnight as otherwise, all the hottest looking girls are gone.

ALSO; Stop paying Soi 6 girls double what the going rate is. The price is 1,000 thb to the girl, and 400 thb for the room upstairs for 1 hour.

A few girls have asked for more, but I always stand my ground at 1,000 thb and 90% of the girls accept it. I don't even ask the price before hand, I just hand them the 1,000 thb after and say thank you. The one time a girl demanded more, we involved the manager, and the manager told her if she wanted more than the going rate, she needed to tell me before going upstairs.

For those who are hung up on pricing, Soi 6 has become a a no go. Why? Because they want to take the girls out of the bar. If you want to fuck a soi 6 girl outside of the bar, they will get you for 2500 Barfine before 10 PM. It slowly goes down until closing time. If you don't want this, fuck them in the short time rooms above the bar. This is how the Nightwish group discourages taking the girls out of the bar early. They want them there drinking until midnight. I know managers there and they tell me if they didn't do this, all the girls would be gone by 10 PM and they may as well just close early.

Bar fine after midnight if the inflated price bothers you. Or just fuck them ST in the rooms upstairs.

[SubCmdr]

I don't ever have any problems with loaning money to girls / chicas because I simply don't do it. It would be a violation of a The Ten Chica Commandments. I wrote this in 2016 during my time living in the Dominican Republic. It has served me well.

Number six: chica want god damn credit, dead it. You think a chica be paying you back, shit forget it.

I have loaned money to chicas / girls before. Collateralized by gold. I do not charge interest. I get paid back every time.

I want to help a chica / girl out then I just gift her the money. If she is not appreciate of my "gift" then she does not get anymore of them.

This is a prime example of why I do not "loan" money to chicks. I had never done it before because I learned from other people's mistakes. But I decided to go ahead and undertake this experiment myself with it being such a meager amount.

[Banana Boi]

Palace. The models were looking good tonight. Much better than last night. Still not so many girls in Palace compared to the Good Old Days. Place was packed. 10,000 baht VIP area was empty.
Here's something I have never seen in a gogo bar before. Japanese (possibly Chinese) guy sits down. He immediately sees a model on stage he clearly can't wait for. Not even a nice one. She just got on stage. He tells the waitress he wants her. Waitress holds up 5 fingers. I couldn't hear clearly but I thought she said 500 baht for the girl to come down immediately. Waitress grabs girl and she comes down right away. Next thing I see is she has 5 shots in front of her so maybe the 5 fingers were he had to buy her 5 drinks to get her off stage. Then I hear the girl saying something about 500 baht to the guy. Really weird. Someone who knows the current Palace system let me know. Before if the girl had a drink she would dance 1 or 2 songs then whine at mama to get down.

Opium. I don't usually lose my cool in gogo bars but tonight I sort of did. One of the Tomboy waitresses I don't know comes up to me and says I need to order another drink, buy someone a LD or leave. I just ignored her. Grabbed my bill back and put it back in the cup. I said I'll buy LD's when I want to. Over comes running the head waitress. Apologizes to end to me and says sorry we they know I'm a very good customer. I can sit there and not order drinks as long as I want. Then she chews out the Tomboy waitress. I left anyways since my girl wasn't there. On the way out Tomboy says something nasty to me and I let her have it in Thai. Bet she didn't see that coming. On the bright side I finally saw the second decent looking model at Opium #326, albeit flat.

Sensations. Walked in for old times sake. Haven't been for a couple of years. Girls are not good and I'm being nice.

Pin Up - Loads of pretty girls tonight. Out of the top gogo bars this is the one where the girls seem to enjoy being there and having a good time. They're in general all happy and flirty. Problem is I know too many girls from the past who work here now and it's full on attack once they see me.

The iPhone girl, Since I was curious I wanted to know the story of this girl getting an iPhone 2 nights ago. She's pretty good looking too so it wasn't hard to decide to get her a LD. I asked if she knew this guy for a long time. She said she just met the guy a couple of nights earlier. Clearly this dude is infatuated with her. Nice slender happy girl I can see why he likes but a new iPhone? Cmon!

It is classic scam. I have lost over 100 k bath in this scam. Thai hoes are biggest scammers of world.

You've never hobbied in Las Vegas strip clubs then.

[EihTooms]

Thing is I never said I met her at 7 11. I only said she works at 7 11. You can meet people anywhere. But I guess for some people it is such a task and takes so much of their energy to even talk to people unless they are 100% sure they will be able to fuck them. However with that theory you can even throw away the bars since guys are reporting spending money on a bunch of drinks just to later on find out the chick does not fuck.

For sure it is possible to strike gold with regular girls in shops, restaurants, malls, skytrains, subway trains and so on if you are ordinarily friendly and open to it. I have done it several times. And most often when I am not even cruising for pussy exactly, just being friendly. I have also been shot down often enough by non P4 P ladies misreading my friendliness for mongering. LOL. For me, having it go either way is so random I would not expect rewarding results by making that my modus operandi on a limited time vacation.

[Rocko20]

Don't sweat it brother. I catch the same heat. It as if people cannot tell the difference between being a visitor and being a ex-pat. Limited time and you have to focus on what you want.

Agreed. Some believe its all about "bar girls vs freelancers" when, as you correctly stated, we all know cute thai girls can be found everywhere. At the end of the day, every monger has their own strategy, preferences, budgets, time constraints, and objectives after considering each option on the table.

None of us are new to Pattaya. So those trying to inform others on where to find the "the cheap beach road or cute thai 7/11 chick" don't realize that we already know they're out there.

Example, attached is a Insomnia freelancer I had back in 2017 multiple times but is no longer active (I have no idea what happened to her), I'm sure others had her back then as well. It illustrates the fact that yes, us mongers who enjoy go-go bars still understand there are cute freelancers in other places and we still actively look for them outside of go-gos.

[Mr Enternational]

It is classic scam. I have lost over 100 k bath in this scam. Thai hoes are biggest scammers of world.

She finally spoke back and had the nerve to say it is only 300 baht. Well bih if it was only 300 baht then why haven't you given it back? And you only had to give 200 of it back. Now she is saying she will have it on the 30th. Mf act like she was doing me a favor, when she was the one begging for favors.

[Paolo99]

Agreed, and most tourists don't know the difference as most motorbike rental companies don't bother enforcing it. Tourists typically get an international driving permit and think they are legally driving a motorbike in Thailand, but they're not because they only got the permit / stamp for vehicles, not for motorbikes. I made the exact same mistake but luckily never got stopped. So now I don't rent any motorbike unless I had all proper documentation.

International driving licence stipulates what vehicle you are allowed to drive in your own country and thus gives you the right to drive these types of vehicle in countries that recognize the validity of the International driving licence, like Thailand.

People who have the driving licence to drive a motorbike in their own country are legally allowed to drive a motorbike in Thailand as long as they can show the International driving licence and their original driving licence.

I've been through numerous check points in Pattaya and each time I showed my International driving licence I could go through without a problem (but when I didn't have one I was fined).

[Rocko20]

A bit of a clarification. There is no International license per say. You go to places like AAA in States you present your license they provide a small book with a number of languages and stamp in a specfic area what one is allow to drive car, motorbike etc. If your home licence doesn't allow for motorbike it won't be stamped. Regardless this booklet is call Internation Permit!

Agreed, and most tourists don't know the difference as most motorbike rental companies don't bother enforcing it. Tourists typically get an international driving permit and think they are legally driving a motorbike in Thailand, but they're not because they only got the permit / stamp for vehicles, not for motorbikes. I made the exact same mistake but luckily never got stopped. So now I don't rent any motorbike unless I had all proper documentation.

[LittleBigMan]

Probably. I took her for a ST on Friday and Saturday night, not Sunday.

As the saying goes, "Its not your girl, its just your turn.

Anyone can rent one, but driving one legally requires an international motorbike license (not to be confused with an international drivers license which is for a car) and police know most tourist farangs dont have one so one could be paying tickets if they rent one without it. Many motorbike taxis dont bother giving out helmets and the one you get from a rental could be just as grimey.

This excerpt explains it:

A bit of a clarification. There is no International license per say. You go to places like AAA in States you present your license they provide a small book with a number of languages and stamp in a specfic area what one is allow to drive car, motorbike etc. If your home licence doesn't allow for motorbike it won't be stamped. Regardless this booklet is call Internation Permit!

Remember, majority of Thai police can't read English they are taught what generally the book looks like and area thaat need to be stamped to drive a car or motorbike. Today in Pattaya it is rare to see checkpoints if any Soi 9 near police station.

Correct although police heads keep telling don't rent to unlicence they continue it just hot air. Regardless one better know what they are doing especially know what the bad habits of driving here by Thais.

There hss been numerous stories of foreigner having accidents that carry travel insurance not covering for number of reason better read the fine print.

In the end it comes down to driver attitute cause there is no special training for Bolt, Grab etc. They come all from the same school which is no school at all in my view.

[Mr Enternational]

In addition to which, some of us hideously ugly, stinky, abrasive punters would need to further ask every cute non-sex worker they see at 7/11,

Thing is I never said I met her at 7 11. I only said she works at 7 11. You can meet people anywhere. But I guess for some people it is such a task and takes so much of their energy to even talk to people unless they are 100% sure they will be able to fuck them. However with that theory you can even throw away the bars since guys are reporting spending money on a bunch of drinks just to later on find out the chick does not fuck.

[SubCmdr]

You seem to think this is breaking news.

Yes, many state the obvious.

Every cute Thai girl looks like 1000 other girls in Pattaya that you could pick up for THB 1000. Anyone could post 100 women and we could say the exact same thing about the picture. Have you seen the women working at Central Festival and Terminal 21? Plenty look better than the bar girls!.

I second the motion on the in Central Festival, Central Marina and Terminal 21. So fucking hot they make we want to learn how to speak Thai. LOL!

Again, the point was to demonstrate to role and purpose of a go-go for a tourist with limited time, not to claim go-gos are exclusive to the best of the best.

Don't sweat it brother. I catch the same heat. It as if people cannot tell the difference between being a visitor and being a ex-pat. We even have ex-pats that speak Thai trying to tell visitors they have the same hurdles to jump over as visitor as a visitor. WTF? I understand your point completely. Limited time and you have to focus on what you want.

I'm starting to question whether some of you guys have actually been to Pattaya. Go-gos would not exist if everyone just wanted to fuck the cute thai girl from 7/11 or the thb 1000 on beach road.

Opportunities are available at every price point. Many posted have not filed trip reports or been to Pattaya recently. They are just pinning away until they get the chance to come back.

[Rocko20]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ofc. But to me, she looks like 10000 other girls in Patya that you could pick up for THB 1000. Its like buying a bottle of beer. You can buy one in Paris for EUR 3 or go to a tourist zone in Paris and pay EUR 12 for the same beer.

Well duh, every cute Thai girl looks like 1000 other girls in Pattaya that you could pick up for THB 1000. Anyone could post 100 Thai women and we could say the exact same thing about the picture. Have you seen the thai women working at Central Festival and Terminal 21? Plenty look better than some bar girls! But you dont monger at the mall unless you want to be slapped, you monger at a known red light district area.

Again, the point was to demonstrate the role and purpose of a go-go for a tourist with limited time, not to claim go-gos are exclusive to the best of the best. Go-gos would not exist if everyone just wanted to fuck the cute thai girl from 7/11 or the receptionist who checked you into your hotel.

If that 1 in 100 does say Yes, you're golden. Yay! You dodged paying the barfine, maybe another 1,000 baht or so and can use the money you saved to buy new shoe leather and liniment for your aching legs and back.

Agreed, and well stated. I mean might as well close all those expensive and endless beer bars, soapy massages, go-go bars, discos, LK metro, and soi 6. Who needs that stupid stuff?

Goodby Walking Street and LK metro! Time to monger at 7/11 and souvenir shops!

And certainly dont post any pictures of who youve had, because all cute thai women look alike anyway. Who wants to see pictures of cute thais? Yuck!

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Foot pegs fold up. If you put your foot under it and apply any type of pressure then it is going to close. You also risk buring yourself on the exhaust pipe. Handle bars on the back of a bike? I have been riding motorcycles damn near since I could walk and I do not understand any of this.

Neither of those have happened to me yet.

You are correct, not called handle bars. Could not think of what to call it Should have said hold on to the metal ring around the seat at the back of the motorcycle.

Picture of metal ring for those not familiar with it https://www.awesome11.com/wp-content...otorcycles.jpg.

[LittleBigMan]

Been there one or two trips ago. They might not have anything to do with NW, but my feeling is the bar (and the girls) have a similar MO.

Also Burger King has nothing to do with McDonald, but they provide same food, service. Just a different brand on uniforms and signage.

They probably think it is the "modern way" to conduct business, screw the customer. It might work well in places like Pattaya, where 90% of visitors are newbie, and rotate continuously, read about bars on vanilla social media, compare prices and girls with home and happy to live the "Pattaya experience", thinking it is the one.

Excellent, these owners arent real business people from Bloomberg as you note their plan is more in the sense make money screw the customer.

During Covid owners took heavy losses those who came into the game late with Nightwish group took the heaviest losses many who had investment, full or part ownership gone. Once open their plan wss to make it back and quick thus the plan todat to monopolize the industry with contracts where ladies have to sell drinks to equal their salaries. Goal of everyone adopts to the game what choice for customer it becomes standard pay it or go somewhere else. That is why Asian now go to Soi 6, owners know so they adopt the same plan.

[Jay1221]

This is a prime example of why I do not "loan" money to chicks. I had never done it before because I learned from other people's mistakes. But I decided to go ahead and undertake this experiment myself with it being such a meager amount.

On June 5 the chick I pay for sex that works at 7 11 hit me up asking to borrow money. I have known her since before covid and she has never asked before. She said she needed 200 baht for her daughter to go on a field trip at school and she would pay me back on June 10.

Sure why not. But I said I will even send an extra 100 baht that you do not have to pay back so that she can also buy food on the trip.

June 9 came and she asked me to borrow another 200 baht saying she lost her wallet and needed to buy food. In the over 5 years I have known her she has never asked me for money, but this time asked to borrow money twice in the span of 4 days. I told her no. I said I am waiting for tomorrow when you give me the other 200 baht back. She said well I will not have the money until the 15th. I say okay I will wait until the 15th. Then she still begs for 200 more baht. I said I can not. I am still waiting for the other 200 baht. Then she changes to wanting 100 baht. I still say no. Then she says why not as if it is my duty to loan money to her. She asks me why I am so mean.

June 15 comes and goes and not a word from her. June 18 I send the QR code so she can send the money back to me. She says why are you so mean. I said you said you will send the money on June 15 and now is June 18. She has not responded since. Today is June 23.

You do it one time and they are going to keep asking on top of not wanting to pay you back to begin with. I threw away 300 baht to learn something that I already knew. Good thing I am not fool enough to do it with thousands or even hundreds of thousands like many guys have done. I am not a financial institution and have no desire to be one.

It is classic scam. I have lost over 100 k bath in this scam. Thai hoes are biggest scammers of world.