Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[Edk750]

I'm over 45 and tried to get it the HPV vaccine from my pcp and he wouldn't get it for me in the beginning. I told him I will pay out of pocket and kept pushing for it and he finally ordered it off label.

I think it's an insurance payment thing.

It could take 5-20 years before HPV turns into precancer and cancer according to cancer. Gov.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/...hpv-and-cancer#text=Although%20 research%20 has%20 focused%20 on, years%20 to%20 develop%20 into%20 cancer.

"Research has found that it can take 5 to 10 years for HPV-infected cervical cells to develop into precancers and about 20 years to develop into cancer..

I'm over the age limit for HPV vaccine. I tried Costco pharmacy, and they refused to do it. Checked with other pharmacies, who also refused. Nobody could tell me why. I even got an appointment with Planned Parenthood, and they cancelled the appt, once the Dr. Saw my age. Nobody will do it, even when paying fully out of pocket, and nobody will explain why.

[HorseTrader]

I think if this was something I was really worried about, instead of consulting unqualified medical professionals, I would consult a doctor on the best safe sex practices and the odds of becoming infected with an STD if having BBFS. This includes the medication people recommend in here. I would never take any medicine unless it was prescribed by a doctor. Anyways, that's my two cents worth.

Some years ago I actually asked an infectious diseases doctor that question. He said it's more efficient transmitting from male to female than vice versa and it's not safe to go BB. Nothing else learned.

[MassageLover81]

I'm wondering why up to 45 years of age since even if small how the hell did Michael Douglas get it in his 70-80..

I'm over 45 and tried to get it the HPV vaccine from my pcp and he wouldn't get it for me in the beginning. I told him I will pay out of pocket and kept pushing for it and he finally ordered it off label.

I think it's an insurance payment thing.

It could take 5-20 years before HPV turns into precancer and cancer according to cancer. Gov.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/...hpv-and-cancer#text=Although%20 research%20 has%20 focused%20 on, years%20 to%20 develop%20 into%20 cancer.

"Research has found that it can take 5 to 10 years for HPV-infected cervical cells to develop into precancers and about 20 years to develop into cancer. ".

Perhaps Michael Douglas loves to monger too.

[SubCmdr]

In my opinion if someone was truly unconcerned about Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions it they would not read this thread at all. Let alone participate in it by asking questions and posting. LOL!

I take medicines that hav not been prescribed by a doctor all the time. Not really something I am worried about.

[EverythingThai]

Do you guys enjoy talking about this? I'm asking because no matter what is discussed here in this thread, people will do what they want. Nothing said here will change that. To me, it seems like a bunch of guys discussing the dangers of going BB and trying to justify why they don't do it when in fact, they probably do go BB all the time. After doing so, they feel better advocating for safe sex in an anonymous sex forum to make themselves feel better. Why bother?

Wait, I will even go you one better. I bet you all want to go BB and you are trying to talk yourselves out of it by advocating for safe sex on here.

I say Nike "Just do it"

Do what you want.

I think if this was something I was really worried about, instead of consulting unqualified medical professionals, I would consult a doctor on the best safe sex practices and the odds of becoming infected with an STD if having BBFS. This includes the medication people recommend in here. I would never take any medicine unless it was prescribed by a doctor. Anyways, that's my two cents worth.

[SubCmdr]

Do you guys enjoy talking about this? I'm asking because no matter what is discussed here in this thread, people will do what they want. Nothing said here will change that.

But exactly how is this different from any other subject on ISG?

Subjects

How much to pay for your prostitutes?

Where to find your prostitutes?

Where to fuck your prostitutes?

Should you go down on your prostitutes? (personally I don't pay to eat pussy but to each their own).

How many lady drinks to buy your prostitutes?

I have a few questions for you: Do you believe the conversation should be censored based on your beliefs and practices? Why do you read the thread if your mind is already made up? Do you actually have an interest in it the subject of the thread? Does it upset in some way or do you take personal offense if someone else chooses to wear a condom?

I think condom use is personal decision and it is optional. I have found that individuals seem to have very strong opinions on the issue. I have never understood why that is since the decision is personal like getting the COVID vax or wearing a mask, riding a motorbike using a helmet or not. Currently, there are several posts about condom usage in the Pattaya Reports thread. Is that a problem for you?

[EverythingThai]

Do you guys enjoy talking about this? I'm asking because no matter what is discussed here in this thread, people will do what they want. Nothing said here will change that. To me, it seems like a bunch of guys discussing the dangers of going BB and trying to justify why they don't do it when in fact, they probably do go BB all the time. After doing so, they feel better advocating for safe sex in an anonymous sex forum to make themselves feel better. Why bother?

Wait, I will even go you one better. I bet you all want to go BB and you are trying to talk yourselves out of it by advocating for safe sex on here.

I say Nike "Just do it"

Do what you want.

[LittleBigMan]

You can just walk into Walmart and get it at the in-store pharmacy. No need to ask a doctor. It's given up to age 45 (not sure how old your are). It's like $317 per dose if you don't have insurance to pay for it and it's 3 doses total over a course of 6 months. I also looked up for in Thailand there's a clinic called the Thai travel clinic in Bangkok they have gardasil 9 there and it's cheaper.

Also another vaccine to get is called Bexsero. It's for meningitis-be but it's used off label to reduce instances of gonorrhea and according to several recent studies it lowers your chances of contracting gonorrhea by 30-40%. Which isn't 100% but it may help nonetheless.

Also the varivax (varicella vaccine) for chicken pox offers cross-protection against herpes HSV2 infection. There was a test on Guinea pigs and they were given varivax and then infected with HSV2 and they had less outbreaks and (less severe herpes sores when they did have outbreaks) as compared to Guinea pigs who were not vaccinated with Varivax.

Also good to get Jynneos / Monkey Pox vaccine and Typhim VI typhoid fever vaccine as those diseases can be spread through sex although they aren't considered

Also Hep A & Hep be in a combined vaccine called twinrix is good to get Hep A can be spread through sex also.

Also if staying in Thailand long term maybe check out JE Vaccine (Japanese Encephalitis) and Dengue Fever vaccine the new one (Qdenga) those are to protect you from diseases you can get from mosquito bites.

Especially if you are traveling through Thailand by bus to smaller towns such as Hat Yai or Udon Thani or any places where they have pig farms near rice growing areas then definitely get the JE Vaccine.

Thanks for the information. Based on my age 70, it isn't going to happen Wal-Mart or anywhere else. I'm wondering why up to 45 years of age since even if small how the hell did Michael Douglas get it in his 70-80. All the others I've been here for 20 years never even consider any shots before coming even Hep even Dengue and I'm not local being bitten I know I just stir at them and think how long can I go and then they are so into the bite SMACK their dead and these are the black one's. Never even put any type of mosquito cream NOTHING! Even after the bites no marks or itching.

By now near the end of my cycle if I'm not sick or dead I'm going to continue to do what I normally do just like I've been doing and go about life not trying to worry and enjoy myself when the moment comes.

[HorseTrader]

Bad calculations. Also starting with wrong assumptions.

And your assumptions, references, and calculations are?

[TommySued]

I'm a bit of a geek who has had near zero training in probability, but I wanted to know what my chances are of catching HIV per trip. I made some assumptions: (a) 30% of Thai hookers are HIV positive and in a condition that they can transmit HIV via vaginal sex, (b) 40 BBFSCIP per trip, and (c) 4 in 10,000 applies to me. That 30% number is probably higher than reality, but my 40 BBFSCIP per trip is not too far off. Working through the math (remember near zero probability training, just online reading), I figure my chances of getting HIV on any given trip are 0.48%. So, about 1 in 200 chance of getting infection per trip. That's a risk that I'll run. Here are some other numbers, all assuming 30% of girls are HIV positive and can infect someone.

1 session: 0.01% chance.
10 sessions: 0.12% chance.
100 sessions: 1.19% chance.
1,000 sessions: 11.31% chance.
10,000 sessions: 69.88% chance.
40,000 sessions: 99.18% chance.

Bad calculations. Also starting with wrong assumptions.

Prevalence of HIV is not higher within sexworkers than within non-sexworkers.

Those 0. 04 % „risk" from CDC are way too high; you can reduce down by a factor of at least 100.

Those „historic" numbers still include all the liars who pretend (ed) they got HIV from a woman. In reality they have / had sex with men & ladyboys.

You probably can't imagine how many so called hetero guys (also married to women and having children) are in reality hidden gays or bisexuals. Men on the downlow.

Women are HIV carriers but not HIV vectors.

When I went to the infectious diseases dept. At a clinic for the first time, the doc asked me if I had hetero- or homosexual sex.

I responded heterosexual (which is the truth), he replied „You are not at risk. But if you want to do the test, we can do it. However I am very sure that it will be negative. ".

So it was. And so it still is. After going BBFS for more almost 40 years now.

[HorseTrader]

BBFS 4 out of 10000 as per the CDC.

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/estimat...behaviors.html

I'm a bit of a geek who has had near zero training in probability, but I wanted to know what my chances are of catching HIV per trip. I made some assumptions: (a) 30% of Thai hookers are HIV positive and in a condition that they can transmit HIV via vaginal sex, (b) 40 BBFSCIP per trip, and (c) 4 in 10,000 applies to me. That 30% number is probably higher than reality, but my 40 BBFSCIP per trip is not too far off. Working through the math (remember near zero probability training, just online reading), I figure my chances of getting HIV on any given trip are 0.48%. So, about 1 in 200 chance of getting infection per trip. That's a risk that I'll run. Here are some other numbers, all assuming 30% of girls are HIV positive and can infect someone.

1 session: 0.01% chance.
10 sessions: 0.12% chance.
100 sessions: 1.19% chance.
1,000 sessions: 11.31% chance.
10,000 sessions: 69.88% chance.
40,000 sessions: 99.18% chance.

[Gabacho]

Thanks, to be honest the talk is getting the vaccine when you are young. Fifty years ago when I got warts and Mono, the doctors made no mention of a vaccine cause it wasn't available as noted. At our age today if back home I was basically saying it would be kind of laughable one going into doctor office at medicare age, hey dr. Can I get the vaccine is it covered under the plan I like to continue eating beaver at my age and don't want to end up like Michael Douglas. LOL.

But also noted maybe no back home maybe it was you to go to Red Cross in Bangkok to get it, not sure BPH has it.

You can just walk into Walmart and get it at the in-store pharmacy. No need to ask a doctor. It's given up to age 45 (not sure how old your are). It's like $317 per dose if you don't have insurance to pay for it and it's 3 doses total over a course of 6 months. I also looked up for in Thailand there's a clinic called the Thai travel clinic in Bangkok they have gardasil 9 there and it's cheaper.

Also another vaccine to get is called Bexsero. It's for meningitis-be but it's used off label to reduce instances of gonorrhea and according to several recent studies it lowers your chances of contracting gonorrhea by 30-40%. Which isn't 100% but it may help nonetheless.

Also the varivax (varicella vaccine) for chicken pox offers cross-protection against herpes HSV2 infection. There was a test on Guinea pigs and they were given varivax and then infected with HSV2 and they had less outbreaks and (less severe herpes sores when they did have outbreaks) as compared to Guinea pigs who were not vaccinated with Varivax.

Also good to get Jynneos / Monkey Pox vaccine and Typhim VI typhoid fever vaccine as those diseases can be spread through sex although they aren't considered STDs.

Also Hep A & Hep be in a combined vaccine called twinrix is good to get Hep A can be spread through sex also.

Also if staying in Thailand long term maybe check out JE Vaccine (Japanese Encephalitis) and Dengue Fever vaccine the new one (Qdenga) those are to protect you from diseases you can get from mosquito bites.

Especially if you are traveling through Thailand by bus to smaller towns such as Hat Yai or Udon Thani or any places where they have pig farms near rice growing areas then definitely get the JE Vaccine.

[LittleBigMan]

The problem for Thai ladies in Pattaya isn't who their boyfriend fucks, it's who fucks their Thai boyfriend.

There are some Thai money boys living on my floor, they wait for calls from Farang customers, do their business, and then go with their Thai girlfriends.

That might be the saying but twist in words the conclusion is really the same.

Not only your floor but before covid down near Soi 13, basically a ewhich man *****house where ladies go you think these younger
guys neglected older women go are all clean and straight.
There are many reasons why the spread and it isnt all for the reason you noting.

[Explorer8939]

Isn't the history of HIV spreading or rumor in Thailand? I've read long ago the spread came from the Thai males who like to go both ways and not surprise although one would think with one of toughest martial arts in the world I find many Thai male go about as if they have a bit of sugar in the tank. Watching Thais males around my village reason many expats uses the phrase " Soi Dog " towards Thai men they will fuck anything even a disease dog if it is free. LOL.

The problem for Thai ladies in Pattaya isn't who their boyfriend fucks, it's who fucks their Thai boyfriend.

There are some Thai money boys living on my floor, they wait for calls from Farang customers, do their business, and then go with their Thai girlfriends.

[LittleBigMan]

You are correct that transmission of HIV from a female to male via vaginal sex is relatively rare, whereas the reverse is less so.

Isn't the history of HIV spreading or rumor in Thailand? I've read long ago the spread came from the Thai males who like to go both ways and not surprise although one would think with one of toughest martial arts in the world I find many Thai male go about as if they have a bit of sugar in the tank. Watching Thais males around my village reason many expats uses the phrase " Soi Dog " towards Thai men they will fuck anything even a disease dog if it is free. LOL.