American Politics

[EihTooms]

Really? Perhaps you should take your own advice!

Since when was it up to you, to tell people how they should feel, about reading what someone wrote a post? Once again, there's that MAGA insensitive cognitive dissonance!

Sounds more like a cult! Yeah, BTW, of which you are one of them!

Really? Keep telling yourself that!

• RamDavidson84: "People don't give a fuck about right and wrong anymore as long as there is a level of deniability and it gets results. Trump could kill a man on the White House lawn and no one would care as long it puts money in people's pocket one way or another. The means no longer matter, only the ends. Sad, but true. Trump is the asshole America wants at the moment ..." http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...21#post3024421

No your wrong! And Only 49.8% of Americans voted for the the dude. So more than half the country don't what this "asshole" for president! I think it's safe to say, Americans do however, want a president that will govern, for the best interest for MOST ALL Americans and NOT just for themselves and their pickpocket billionaires!

You may not realize your doing it, or realize that when you use so called "exaggerated" figures of speech (that to me and many others), that kind of speech is both offensive, insensitive and akin to political violent MAGA dog whistling, that (IMHO) spreads the devaluation of human life, over political ideology and money.

No your wrong! And Only 49.8% of Americans voted for the the dude. So more than half the country don't what this "asshole' for president!

I just wanted to point out that it was only 49.8% of the electorate that bothered to vote that wanted that asshole to be president.

Which makes it more like 22% of Americans voting for him.

And when you factor in the reality that is was a swing of less than 115,000 angry Muslim votes from Harris to Trump across the only 3 swing states that mattered being the sole reason Trump won based on the players on the field and not on who we wish had not sat out the game, it comes down to less than
0. 034% of Americans being directly responsible for Trump winning based on their votes.

And even they sincerely regretted their stupid decision almost immediately after the election.

That is the "landslide" and "voter mandate" that Trump and his Cult Followers keep referencing.

Now, if we go by the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics site, their consensus of polls show a growing majority of Americans, not necessarily just those who voted, Disapproving of Trump's Job Performance so far. And without RCP rushing in those wildly Repub-biased Rasmussen and Rasmussen-related polls so often to save the day for their beloved Trump, his majority Disapproval would be much worse.

See screenshots below.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/pol...pproval-rating

[RamDavidson84]

Really? Perhaps you should take your own advice!

Since when was it up to you, to tell people how they should feel, about reading what someone wrote a post? Once again, there's that MAGA insensitive cognitive dissonance!

Sounds more like a cult! Yeah, BTW, of which you are one of them!

Really? Keep telling yourself that!

• RamDavidson84: "People don't give a fuck about right and wrong anymore as long as there is a level of deniability and it gets results. Trump could kill a man on the White House lawn and no one would care as long it puts money in people's pocket one way or another. The means no longer matter, only the ends. Sad, but true. Trump is the asshole America wants at the moment ..." http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...21#post3024421

No your wrong! And Only 49.8% of Americans voted for the the dude. So more than half the country don't what this "asshole" for president! I think it's safe to say, Americans do however, want a president that will govern, for the best interest for MOST ALL Americans and NOT just for themselves and their pickpocket billionaires!

You may not realize your doing it, or realize that when you use so called "exaggerated" figures of speech (that to me and many others), that kind of speech is both offensive, insensitive and akin to political violent MAGA dog whistling, that (IMHO) spreads the devaluation of human life, over political ideology and money.

Just curious, if your this upset over what I wrote, how do you sleep at night knowing Trump is a two time President and the country you live in, I am assuming your American, elected him twice. LOL that has got to suck for you bro. Sweet dreams and don't let the bed bugs bite LOL.

[Elvis 2008]

Then you turn right around support a guy and all his enablers who does exactly that (and more). How is that standing up for responsibility and opposing hate? Explain that. Still waiting. You can't explain it and constantly try to change the subject and muddy the waters.

If you are so fucking smart, Cane, how could you be so wrong with the election prediction Cane? I know your world. I see it every fucking day. You surround yourselves with like minded people, and all you do is say how smart you are and how dumb Republicans are, and the more you carry on, the smarter you think you are. That is why your sorry ass predicted there was no way Trump would win. Do you know anyone who voted for Trump? Is there anyone who you know who voted for Trump and is not crazy?

How could so many Latin men and women and black men vote for someone so racist as Trump? How did he win Cane? I showed you how I see both sides of an issue when it comes to housing. You showed me you do not. No, every one who votes for Trump is a crazed lunatic who wants to suck his dick.

Ah well, you are back to your Democratic douche ways. When you call half the country delusional, chances are it is you not they that are delusional.

Oh yeah, and thanks for gracing us with your presence and incredible insight. Trumpsters are delusional? Wow, that is such an original thought and it was so worthy of your time to write it. I have not heard that one for like what, a whole five minutes Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, Mr. My time is more valuable than anyone else's.

[RamDavidson84]

Really? Perhaps you should take your own advice!

Since when was it up to you, to tell people how they should feel, about reading what someone wrote a post? Once again, there's that MAGA insensitive cognitive dissonance!

Sounds more like a cult! Yeah, BTW, of which you are one of them!

Really? Keep telling yourself that!.

Nope not violent speech at all LOL. Read previous post.

Nope, America elected Donald and he is the President. He is representing all people of the country whether you like it or not. That is Democracy LOL.

When is your next trip Spidy? Just curious LOL.

Oh and let's do more cognitive dissonance stuff to deflect from the fact you are incapable of having a logical argument. Next up will be a routine on logical fallacies LOL? You will do anything to avoid an.

Actual debate.

I am all about helping people who need it. I took it upon myself to tell you how to find relief for your illness. You clearly have Trump Derangement syndrome and it is time you have to face the facts and get help. Dial 1-800-2-tickets-2-MAGA-HEAVEN to set up an appointment with a Doctor that can treat you.

[RamDavidson84]

First of all you said "don't take shots", then you start taking shots. I don't need "help", and I do understand what's going on. I'm an educated man who understands matters of speech. But apparently you don't understand them because I was referencing "getting away with murder" to emphasize my point. So you criticize me for not getting it when you demonstrate you don't get it yourself LMAO! Second, I didn't say you personally were a hardcore Trumpster, but with your words you seem to excuse their behavior, which I find to be objectionable. And third, still you refuse to answer the core question I asked? Who is it in fact who is "deranged"? Why isn't it those who blindly follow Trump no matter what, even after all of his scandals (you mentioned only a few), and his trampling upon the Constitution? Blind loyalty, no matter what. Isn't that a deranged mentality? And when the nation's democracy is at stake (yes I believe that), then what to do about it? Because to simply say "it's sad" and leave it at that is unacceptable. This is some serious shit! Donald Trump is one of the most divisive figures in the entire history of the country because of his behavior before and during in the White House, who around 40% of the people are willing to blindly follow right down the shitter. And you sir are also an enabler if all you have to offer is a "sad but true". Those who live in reality know freedom isn't free. Which means we must fight the authoritarian right to the end!

If you feel that such an exaggeration is still wrong, then again, you are too sensitive and it would be insane to put that much of a limit on free speech. It reminds me of prohibition in the 1920's. People outlawed alcohol with the goal of creating a healthier society. It had the exact opposite effect. People are people and will continue to be people no matter what. People are going to drink and all prohibition did was drive the alcohol market to the criminal underworld which led to them using their new power to influence national politics and also taking advantage of innocent businesses across the country with protection rackets and other illegal schemes. In the end all prohibition did was create a more toxic society. The same is true if you make people walk on egg shells all day. It will drive us nuts, just like you have probably been seeing every day in the news with the senseless acts of rage violence and other stupid shit.

Ok so I was willing to give you a chance but you have shown me you also have Trump derangement syndrome and are incapable of being unbiased. No worries mate, that will be your cross to bear LOL. I feel bad you will carry so much senseless hate in your heart but that is on you. You will have your opinion and I know the truth and intent of what I wrote and only a deranged individual would come to the conclusions that you have on what I wrote. It is what it is LOL.

I think the extremists on both sides of the political spectrum are deranged. If you dressed up like a viking and ran through the White House on Jan. 6, you need some help. If your having a nervous break down over my original statement, or coming to the conclusions you did, my opinion is you need help LOL. I m very critical of those who blindly follow Trump. I can't make it any more clear. I was criticizing Trump's supporters and some how you take away Trump is actually going to kill some one on the white law LOL, and "get away with murder". LOL you can't make this up hahahaha! I have explained it so many times that was not my intent and you refuse to believe me and just want so badly to be angry and get yourself upset LOL. It is bizarre and I hope you find peace my man. Life is short to be so easily riled up.

I would have dropped this and ignored a long time ago, but I feel honor bound to defend my dead friend. The dude was a very good friend and Spidy who is extremely disrespectful and makes things very personal will not let it go, so I will continue to explain the intent of my post and be critical of him.

You Cane can continue to give yourself a nervous breakdown over this, but I can't waste my time with an unreasonable person. I have said my peace and hope you get some relief my brother.

[The Cane]

If you feel that such an exaggeration is still wrong, then again, you are too sensitive and it would be insane to put that much of a limit on free speech.

See below. Seems to me you're the one being overly sensitive here. Going on and on about this. How about just give it a rest? I love being underestimated. Always sets me up for a crushing victory! Or at least making the other side look rather silly.

[MarquisdeSade1]

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-...ans-rcna232248

[FFlintstone69]

As everyone knows and as the blatantly obvious results show, not one typically Blue-ish state flipped to Trump in 2024 due to Latinos, young people and Black Men choosing Trump over Harris on any issue constantly harped on by Repubs and their perennial benefactors in Mainstream Media.

No, instead the winner of the 2024 presidential election was determined in only 3 swing states, yes typically Blue-ish, but not because any of those above-mentioned demographics turned out to vote for Trump or against Harris because of the economy, inflation, immigration, crime, non-existent "woke-ism", pronouns or trannies.

We know that because there was no particularly notable push to motivate and mobilize any of those demographics on any of those issues in the only three swing states that mattered and that ultimately did determine the winner and instead it was due to a particular motivation and mobilization of one particular demographic on one particular issue that was just enough to swing less than 0. 75 of a single percentage point from Harris to Trump across all of those three swing states and hand him the win..

https://x.com/TheImmortal007/status/1969108300441485489

https://x.com/WhatsNxAmerica/status/1969131210497527836

#1 yes George was a criminal.

[Spidy]

I also meant it as a figure of speech. Only biased individuals who are overly sensitive would take that statement literal and not understand its' intent.
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Hopefully you realize my intent and come to the conclusion that anyone who takes offense to that over victims of gun violence or the second amendment is some one who is way too overly sensitive. ...It is not healthy to go through life and be so sensitive to things and always try to make yourself feel offended and angry.

Really? Perhaps you should take your own advice!

Since when was it up to you, to tell people how they should feel, about reading what someone wrote a post? Once again, there's that MAGA insensitive cognitive dissonance!

I even state with the original statement that I find it sad that his supporters are so blindly loyal. I base this on the multitude of controversies surrounding Trump including Epstein Island, Trump University, Pussy Grabber, Sexual Harrassment lawsuit, the list could on. Hopefully you get the point. Trump has been through so many scandals and his supporters are still there, this shows they are going to back him no matter what. That is why I made the statement that I did. I was being critical of his base.

Sounds more like a cult! Yeah, BTW, of which you are one of them!

Nothing in my post has anything to do with real violence. It is a figure of speech. It is first amendment protected and I am not a public figure. I am some random guy on a forum.

Really? Keep telling yourself that!

• RamDavidson84: "People don't give a fuck about right and wrong anymore as long as there is a level of deniability and it gets results. Trump could kill a man on the White House lawn and no one would care as long it puts money in people's pocket one way or another. The means no longer matter, only the ends. Sad, but true. Trump is the asshole America wants at the moment ..." http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...21#post3024421

No your wrong! And Only 49.8% of Americans voted for the the dude. So more than half the country don't what this "asshole" for president! I think it's safe to say, Americans do however, want a president that will govern, for the best interest for MOST ALL Americans and NOT just for themselves and their pickpocket billionaires!

You may not realize your doing it, or realize that when you use so called "exaggerated" figures of speech (that to me and many others), that kind of speech is both offensive, insensitive and akin to political violent MAGA dog whistling, that (IMHO) spreads the devaluation of human life, over political ideology and money.

[Spidy]

With the silencing and cancelling of Kimmel, is that IT...for free speech in the U.S?

Yanking Jimmy Kimmel’s show is a new low for free speech in America, Sep 19,2025.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...e-speech-trump

By all accounts the corporate American is falling right-in-line with a authoritarian MAGA admin, that is right on track with is fascist right-wing playbook, ...Project 2025

Iran, China, Egypt, Hungry...Turkey...Russia, now...America? So now it's Free Speech for MAGA, but none for you, America?

[RamDavidson84]

Your own words explain just how deranged the MAGA backers are. You said it yourself. Trump could kill a man in cold blood, and still his supporters will stand behind him. If his detractors point out that he just killed a man, the Trumpsters would whine "Trump Derangement Syndrome". But I ask you. Who are the ones who are really deranged then? If you think it's Trump's detractors, then no it's you who needs to do the explaining. Try to make sense out of what makes no sense to a rational human being. Nothing about it is rational. I say again. The ones with the TDS are those who would look past the killing of a man to stick with Trump. Forget the Constitution and other laws. We'll stick with Trump because that makes us "feel good" about ourselves, even if he's a murderer. Explain why that isn't deranged thinking pray tell!

I also want to be crystal clear on this even though I have said this repeatedly over multiple posts. When I made that statement, it is a figure of speech. Like people like Greg Gutfield and Steven Colbert do all the time. I did not mean it literally that Trump could execute some one on the White House lawn in 2025 in cold blood and people would still support him. I find it insane I have to state this and explain this and that you actually took my statement literally. In reality and in the real world, which some of you clearly are not in touch with LOL, if Trump executed a man on the White House lawn, that is a felony and he would be imprisoned LOL. People would not support him literally murdering people on the White House LOL. I can't believe I have to write this LOL, but this is where we are at in 2025 I guess. Again, if you took that statement I made literally, I think it is sad and I feel bad that you have a biased which must be torturing you daily. Honestly I hope you find peace if read that statement and you thought that it was even a possibility that Trump could get away with murder. I meant it as a comedic figure of speech. It was an exaggeration.

If you feel that such an exaggeration is still wrong, then again, you are too sensitive and it would be insane to put that much of a limit on free speech. It reminds me of prohibition in the 1920's. People outlawed alcohol with the goal of creating a healthier society. It had the exact opposite effect. People are people and will continue to be people no matter what. People are going to drink and all prohibition did was drive the alcohol market to the criminal underworld which led to them using their new power to influence national politics and also taking advantage of innocent businesses across the country with protection rackets and other illegal schemes. In the end all prohibition did was create a more toxic society. The same is true if you make people walk on egg shells all day. It will drive us nuts, just like you have probably been seeing every day in the news with the senseless acts of rage violence and other stupid shit.

[Spidy]

Then you turn right around support a guy and all his enablers who does exactly that (and more). How is that standing up for responsibility and opposing hate? Explain that. Still waiting. You can't explain it and constantly try to change the subject and muddy the waters. Because in your deepest, private moments of clarity you know it's deranged. It's mental defect. It's wrong. And it's criminal! Exactly what America gave back to the world. A disgusting preview of the fall of American democracy unless those of us of sound body, mind, and alacrity for the political fight can grab the ring back again. I'm not about to go around and around and around with you people. You have Tooms and Spidy for that. I don't know how they do it, but God bless them!

Thanks very much for saying so!

But, The Cane, you do realize, your debate contributions to "Am. Pol. " are always timely and much welcomed, especially when it comes time to, "...fight the good fight".

I do appreciate the high praise, coming from a long-time OG ISG mongerer such as yourself! As I'm sure EihTooms does too!

In fact, I want the time it took me to write this back!

While I get your drift...unfortunately that's not how things work! "(...kkkk!)".

And I want you to explain yourselves in a logical and rational manner. I challenge you.

You'd have better luck, "parting the Red Sea", than making sense out of the gish gallop gibberish, that comes out of the MAGA mouths, of the likes of Elvis 2008.

But's here's to you, for daring "to challenge", the "Red Lobster, all-you-can-eat" bankruptcy debate king!

[The Cane]

Thank you for trying to at least explain your point in good faith. I will show you the same respect.

You need to reread the original post which you did not take the time to do and you chymed in with some harsh criticism. I am going to assume you just don't fully understand the debate I have been having with Spidy man. In the original post I state that "Trump could kill a man on the White House lawn and his supporters would still back him as long as he is making them money. It is sad, but true". I didn't say I support that statement. I was making an observation on Trump's core base of supporters, which I am not apart of. I also meant it as a figure of speech. Only biased individuals who are overly sensitive would take that statement literal and not understand its' intent. I even state with the original statement that I find it sad that his supporters are so blindly loyal. I base this on the multitude of controversies surrounding Trump including Epstein Island, Trump University, Pussy Grabber, Sexual Harrassment lawsuit, the list could on. Hopefully you get the point. Trump has been through so many scandals and his supporters are still there, this shows they are going to back him no matter what..

First of all you said "don't take shots", then you start taking shots. I don't need "help", and I do understand what's going on. I'm an educated man who understands matters of speech. But apparently you don't understand them because I was referencing "getting away with murder" to emphasize my point. So you criticize me for not getting it when you demonstrate you don't get it yourself LMAO! Second, I didn't say you personally were a hardcore Trumpster, but with your words you seem to excuse their behavior, which I find to be objectionable. And third, still you refuse to answer the core question I asked? Who is it in fact who is "deranged"? Why isn't it those who blindly follow Trump no matter what, even after all of his scandals (you mentioned only a few), and his trampling upon the Constitution? Blind loyalty, no matter what. Isn't that a deranged mentality? And when the nation's democracy is at stake (yes I believe that), then what to do about it? Because to simply say "it's sad" and leave it at that is unacceptable. This is some serious shit! Donald Trump is one of the most divisive figures in the entire history of the country because of his behavior before and during in the White House, who around 40% of the people are willing to blindly follow right down the shitter. And you sir are also an enabler if all you have to offer is a "sad but true". Those who live in reality know freedom isn't free. Which means we must fight the authoritarian right to the end!

[Spidy]

Your own words explain just how deranged the MAGA backers are. You said it yourself. Trump could kill a man in cold blood, and still his supporters will stand behind him. If his detractors point out that he just killed a man, the Trumpsters would whine "Trump Derangement Syndrome".But I ask you. Who are the ones who are really deranged then? If you think it's Trump's detractors, then no it's you who needs to do the explaining. Try to make sense out of what makes no sense to a rational human being. Nothing about it is rational. I say again. The ones with the TDS are those who would look past the killing of a man to stick with Trump. Forget the Constitution and other laws. We'll stick with Trump because that makes us "feel good" about ourselves, even if he's a murderer. Explain why that isn't deranged thinking pray tell!

You are EXACTLY right!

This is exactly the kind of cognitive dissonance "blanket", that QAnon/MAGA/Repubs, wrap themselves in and then turn into hypocrites about FREE SPEECH!

[RamDavidson84]

Your own words explain just how deranged the MAGA backers are. You said it yourself. Trump could kill a man in cold blood, and still his supporters will stand behind him. If his detractors point out that he just killed a man, the Trumpsters would whine "Trump Derangement Syndrome". But I ask you. Who are the ones who are really deranged then? If you think it's Trump's detractors, then no it's you who needs to do the explaining. Try to make sense out of what makes no sense to a rational human being. Nothing about it is rational. I say again. The ones with the TDS are those who would look past the killing of a man to stick with Trump. Forget the Constitution and other laws. We'll stick with Trump because that makes us "feel good" about ourselves, even if he's a murderer. Explain why that isn't deranged thinking pray tell!

Thank you for trying to at least explain your point in good faith. I will show you the same respect.

You need to reread the original post which you did not take the time to do and you chymed in with some harsh criticism. I am going to assume you just don't fully understand the debate I have been having with Spidy man. In the original post I state that "Trump could kill a man on the White House lawn and his supporters would still back him as long as he is making them money. It is sad, but true". I didn't say I support that statement. I was making an observation on Trump's core base of supporters, which I am not apart of. I also meant it as a figure of speech. Only biased individuals who are overly sensitive would take that statement literal and not understand its' intent. I even state with the original statement that I find it sad that his supporters are so blindly loyal. I base this on the multitude of controversies surrounding Trump including Epstein Island, Trump University, Pussy Grabber, Sexual Harrassment lawsuit, the list could on. Hopefully you get the point. Trump has been through so many scandals and his supporters are still there, this shows they are going to back him no matter what. That is why I made the statement that I did. I was being critical of his base.

Hopefully you realize my intent and come to the conclusion that anyone who takes offense to that over victims of gun violence or the second amendment is some one who is way too overly sensitive. If you read my original statement and your reaction is how could Ram state that on a public online sex tourism forum, he is inconsiderate to victims of gun violence, then my opinion is your not thinking clearly and you should really seek help. It is not healthy to go through life and be so sensitive to things and always try to make yourself feel offended and angry.

I also believe it is morally wrong to constantly try to villify and shame people without a valid reason. Wrongly and constantly shaming people is what created this blindly loyal base to Trump in the first place. I don't what else to say. If you still don't understand what is going on here then god bless you and may he have mercy your soul LOL.

Nothing in my post has anything to do with real violence. It is a figure of speech. It is first amendment protected and I am not a public figure. I am some random guy on a forum. Should we really not speak out on the problems we see in society? Should we silently watch as Trump supporters look away again and again as he is involved in scandal after scandal.