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[Goferring]

And the girl gets all the rewards.

WIn-win.

_ Phil.

It's amazing how little of the proceeds the girls can actually take home: room and board; hair and makeup; food; repaying transport. They all add up. Throw in low season and missed quotas and girls can end up owing money at the end of the month.

It's not surprising that freelancing or after hours hook ups at half rates are attractive.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

Plus, they usually only have about two Red Horse beers in your room as opposed to that expensive, watered down lady drink in a bar.

_ Phil.

Bars can be outrageously expensive if they are allowed to be. However, they can also represent good value if the guy is receiving an immediate quid pro quo. A face full of tits and possibly some sucky sucky for P390 is too good to pass up for me.

That's only available at some bars though, not everywhere.

To repeat: she has to be earning her keep there and then. P12 k just to talk is a waste unless that's what they guy gets off on.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

Yup. Also had the opposite experience at another bar. Girl came and sat next to me like a princess thinking I bought the expensive drink so we could discuss global politics or something LOL. Towards the end of the drink she asked for another. I told her clearly that I didn't buy drinks to have her sit next to me. So then she climbs on my lap and tries to change my mind. Nope. Paid for the drink and bounced. Again, I have the money so I decide. If I feel I'm getting money's worth I'm happy to let it flow. If not, one drink and out.

Everyone rightly cautions about the hardened older girls but I've also learnt to be wary about the young newbies in the hars. Drink quotas and peer pressure add up. I've seen a couple of new girls try to match 300 lb foreigners or seasoned girls drink for drink to the point of being hospitalised and having their stomach pumped. Many have arrived back at the room a 80 lb bucket of jello. And I'm not even a big drinker!

[WestCoast1]

Asian girls have zero short term memory.

Filipinas: The memory, and attention span, of a gnat.

[PhilJoy]

This is an important point that many guys miss. Asian girls have zero short term memory. Any money spent on drinks, tips etc is for activities received there and then. In no way is it foreplay or her promise for future activities. The split second she has finished that drink she owes us nothing. Enjoy. G.

Another major reason I avoid the bar scene and so true G.

If you want a food delivery and you're not prepared to cook for yourself, then go for it. And pay extra.

If you want to cook for yourself and discover some other tasty options, it's so much cheaper, and generally, I find you have a better rapport with the girl.

Plus, they usually only have about two Red Horse beers in your room as opposed to that expensive, watered down lady drink in a bar.

I always put it out there to girls that if they FL with me, they'll get a good cut of the action.

It's all transparent and you're calling the shots rather than a Mama or the bar.

And the girl gets all the rewards.

WIn-win.

_ Phil.

[Expat American]

Again, I totally agree. Several times I've explained the Golden Rule: ie I have the gold so I'm making the rules.

There is no need to be a dick about it but if girls smell chum in the water they very quickly become sharks and devour any new mark.

Enjoy G.

Yup. Also had the opposite experience at another bar. Girl came and sat next to me like a princess thinking I bought the expensive drink so we could discuss global politics or something LOL. Towards the end of the drink she asked for another. I told her clearly that I didn't buy drinks to have her sit next to me. So then she climbs on my lap and tries to change my mind. Nope. Paid for the drink and bounced. Again, I have the money so I decide. If I feel I'm getting money's worth I'm happy to let it flow. If not, one drink and out.

I'm never a dick about it though. I am just firm and polite. I'm also playful and joke around with the girls a lot. If they feel they are having fun too, its much easier to get them to relax and have a good time with you. Its still P4 P no doubt, but a bit more relaxed version.

[Goferring]

You have to take control of the situation. I told the girls, either you can go slow on the drinks and give me a good time and Ill stay long and buy lots of drinks or you can drink this one fast and its last drink I will buy tonight. Your choice. Guess which one they chose?

Again, I totally agree. Several times I've explained the Golden Rule: ie I have the gold so I'm making the rules.

There is no need to be a dick about it but if girls smell chum in the water they very quickly become sharks and devour any new mark.

Enjoy G.

[Goferring]

11 drinks total for the girls. All girls had their tops off, all were kissing, one gave a sample BJ under the table, pretty much everything went. You have to take control of the situation.

This is an important point that many guys miss. Asian girls have zero short term memory. Any money spent on drinks, tips etc is for activities received there and then. In no way is it foreplay or her promise for future activities.

The split second she has finished that drink she owes us nothing.

Enjoy. G.

[BaddHabbit]

Went into a local Watson's expecting to be able to buy some generic Viagra and to my shock and horror they told me I need a Prescription. Last time I was here I went back with a lot of non-controlled but prescription in the USA Drugs. Are there any pharmacies that are not strict on this? Love to get some Kamagra to take home. I'm staying in Makati.

Thanks!

I have found that TGP, the generics pharmacy, is the best both in terms of lowest price and for not asking for prescriptions.

[PhilJoy]

Worst experience ever leaving phillipines in the morning. Went to iron horse tonight in Burgos street! Found a cute girl grinding all over me spent $12,000 pesos on our drinks with mamasan!

Mate, sorry to be blunt, but there's your fucking / mongering problem to begin with.

Dropping 12 k on drinks without even getting a sniff of a vag?

You have just become an ATM.

City Garden. Never had a problem there with girls with ID.

It's all a game mate.

You've just got to learn how to play and win in The Phils.

The wins can be very rewarding.

_ Phil.

[Old And Ugly]

The city garden hotel makati rejected her saying they needed real government ID and would not accept hers! Either way everyone come to Colombia you will have a better time.

Possible, but also possible, that she showed the one that she knew is not accepted, probably the health card, but we'll never know if was trickery since you didn't got her into the bed. I would have paid for a cheap hotel, now that most of the balance was already settled out.

Colombia is nice, but you may end up dead there very easy, by design, or by chance.

Latinas react different to big spenders, their pussy lips get the trembles, and get all wet when they see one, I know it because I used to play south of the border for a few decades, but asians when they see the potential, concoct all kind of scenarios in their heads on how to separate you from more of your money, in a rapid and clean manor.

[WestCoast1]

Went into a local Watson's expecting to be able to buy some generic Viagra and to my shock and horror they told me I need a Prescription. Last time I was here I went back with a lot of non-controlled but prescription in the USA Drugs. Are there any pharmacies that are not strict on this? Love to get some Kamagra to take home. I'm staying in Makati.

Thanks!

Thinking CCD has not been keeping up with his Phils RTTF. I purchased generic V pills at each of the Mercury Drug stores on Makati Ave, just a jaunt across and / or up from Burgos St. See the pics. Can't remember the price, but I filed a report here in the Makati thread; you can do an advanced search to find it.

Additionally, since covid, lots of pharmacies now ask a prescription for everything. You just got to shop around.

[Charm City Dave]

Went into a local Watson's expecting to be able to buy some generic Viagra and to my shock and horror they told me I need a Prescription. Last time I was here I went back with a lot of non-controlled but prescription in the USA Drugs. Are there any pharmacies that are not strict on this? Love to get some Kamagra to take home. I'm staying in Makati.

Thanks!

[FuriousGeorge]

I have stayed at the City Garden Grand many times and have never had an issue with girls coming or leaving. Like all good hotels, they call you when the girl leaves so you can make sure you haven't been ripped off. I never have. Only good experiences. Your experience makes me doubt your approach with the girls. I'm a gringo who speaks fluent Spanish but have never felt the desire to go to Colombia based on: crime, condoms, and fat girls. That's why I stick to the Phils. Maybe try again.

The city garden hotel makati rejected her saying they needed real government ID and would not accept hers! Either way everyone come to Colombia you will have a better time.

[Expat American]

Worst experience ever leaving phillipines in the morning. Went to iron horse tonight in Burgos street! Found a cute girl grinding all over me spent $12,000 pesos on our drinks with mamasan! Even tipped good! Go to city garden hotel only to find out the girl doesn't have government ID. As soon as we leave she starts I'm so shy sir drama before we even get to the hotel. Then she try's to get me to pay to go a hotel iron horse owns instead! I returned her back to the club! Told mamasan the embarrassment I just endured. Then she tries to give me uglier girls. I told her the only girl I like there they bring her over and because I have a full size penis says 30,000 to go with me! Instead of the $5000 agreed with the other girl. P.S. $4600 bar fine which after enough of a scene they paid me back! Brutal trip in phillipines worst girls in the world and scams! I'll stick to Colombia, Brazil, Thailand.

Wow 12 K! That's a lot of drinks. I spent 4 K for 2 hours with 3 girls all over me (not Iron Horse). 11 drinks total for the girls. All girls had their tops off, all were kissing, one gave a sample BJ under the table, pretty much everything went. You have to take control of the situation. I told the girls, either you can go slow on the drinks and give me a good time and Ill stay long and buy lots of drinks or you can drink this one fast and its last drink I will buy tonight. Your choice. Guess which one they chose? I also bought 3 girls a drink and said, I'm going to choose one girl for many more drinks, and they should compete for that prize. That was a lot of fun. I did buy some more drinks for all of them because they all delivered. You have to understand, in Asia women are used to men taking charge and if you do, they will follow. If you don't, they will walk all over you and not respect you at all. In the above scenario when the waitress would hover trying to push more drinks, the girls themselves told her to go away when I started to get annoyed. Of course they begged to barfine but I had already unloaded into a PL girl earlier for 2 K so wasn't spending 10 K on that (or 20 K for two which is what they were selling).