Sao Paulo Reports

[Tasss]

You come to Brazil probably 4 years too late for better price.

Everywhere was better 4 years ago. But everything was also better 10 years ago than 4 years ago. I can't go back that far but probably 20 years ago was better than 10. Girls just have more and more opportunities now, but that's a separate topic.

Monday report.

I read about the Predios or "buildings" on gpguia and it was mentioned a couple times in these forums. The most talked about one seems to be Rua Conselheiro Furtado 151. The building looks scary on Google Maps but it's not really. I was trying to arrive by 7 pm but due to the Uber dropping me off at a different location and some weirdness with Google Maps, it took me 30 minutes to find the place. I think just looking at the building numbers as you walk would help a lot. There was a pretty cute looking black girl receiving a food order at the front when I arrived there, so I was hopeful. The building has 8 floors. Each floor has two sides where girls, and also men, are waiting. They're almost set up like tiny bars with 4 seats. There are girls on the stairs between the floors as well. Each side also has its own set of small rooms where the deed is done. The rooms are pretty horrible looking, tiny and no privacy. About the size of a small bathroom at most. Unfortunately the girl I saw at the beginning was the only one I would consider sessioning with at all. The rest of the building had maybe 20 women and are all ugly / fat / old so it's not like there's a large selection either. It was a step up from the street girls I saw yesterday. I chatted up with the black girl and she says she'll only work in this building. Most of the girls are black or brown, and so are the clientelle. No one should be flying all the way to SP for this, but it could be an side option for some people I suppose. I didn't feel there was a safety issue in the building, even as a foreigner walking between the stairs, and most people were just minding their own business.

This building is in Liberdade and therefore is also close to Japantown. You can get Japanese or Chinese food at the same time if you ever decide to explore that area. Since I was close to Espaço Vergueiro, I walked there after having my meal. It was 9 pm and there were only 4 girls, 2 were talking to guys. Cover was 30 but I asked the door guy whether I can just walk in and check it out first since there were so few girls and he said OK. One of the girls was the one I interviewed at Yankin the other day and we recognized each other. I asked her when this place would get busy and she said maybe 12 midnight today. I said goodbye and left.

The Prime Latina who's supposed to come this evening needed to reschedule. The brunette from yesterday messaged me saying she's available. She comes by again at midnight for the same 800 we agreed to earlier. She wasn't as GFE as I hoped, no kissing, no licking tits, but she's got a cute girly personality that I like. I asked why there were so many guys yesterday in Casarao just lounging around doing nothing. She says, some guys pay for the cover just so they can grab tits and asses while they drink with their buddies, never intending to take a girl. Makes sense to me.

I was planning to check out Gauguin today but couldn't get going until 3 am. Google Maps says Gauguin closes at 5 am so I had thought that a 3:30 am arrival would still mean enough girls to talk to. Maybe it's because it's Monday combined with the time of arrival but I was disappointed to see that there were only about 20 girls with half of them already occupied. Some women were already checking out and turning in their wristbands. This sparseness is problematic since girls can see every other girl and they probably don't want to be known as the one to take BBFS offers. However, one out of the 4 I spoke to accepted it but for 1.8 k. With Casarao's going BBFS rate being around 800 from two samples, it's hard for me to justify paying 1 k more for girls that are maybe just a notch up in looks. Girls are basically all leaving by 4 am so I'm not sure if Google Maps is wrong about the closing time or they just naturally leave at that time. Cover fee was 290 and includes 150 in consumables. I was hoping to at least get a meal out of it, but by 4 am, I was told they stopped making food and only have drinks left. Didn't care about drinks so I left. Someone more experienced can help chime in here but maybe it's just good practice to arrive at these clubs before 2 am to make sure you catch most of the roster before they leave?

When all the girls were exiting, you can see them in full lighting, unlike at Scandallo where the checkout area is also dimly lit. The women are still generally very pretty but in that lighting you can see just how much of it is makeup and clothes. I agree with other members here that Gauguin is just a notch down from Scandallo on average and a notch or maybe two up from Casarao. But this is only because Casarao's roster is inconsistent. They have some 5's, but because the girl count is high, by simply ignoring the bottom third, you'll be left with a lineup that can rival higher end clubs.

[Nounce]

the fact is that it is possible on the first meeting with extra payment. I think you just need to choose the right venues. Scan will be hard and expensive. Lower level clubs might not be. So far I did I get it twice today I got it on my first trip to Casarao except the girl got blocked by the doorman. If you don't want to pay more, it'll be hard here, but it'll also be hard if you don't pay in most places outside of SEA and it's your first time with the girl. That shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. People who do BBFS know the risks and most are willing to pay more.

I don't pay extra to working girls and I get it on the first visit frequent enough. I do it differently. I don't negotiate it before meeting, and I did it at the last minute. I basically establish a power dynamic like this by allowing them the opportunity to observe and she can have it tomorrow. I also don't need to negotiate with the 2nd one when they will bring their civilian and working friends,

So I told her. 1 k all BBFSCIP for the night but she would be on my list for repeats in all my future trips.

Here is another example, I found one just turned 18 and start working in El Centro, still goes to school to study fashion design, has a curfew at 7 PM. I met her around 5:30 PM. I told her to call me next time when she comes and I will pay all her hours so she does not have to work on the street. Instead of negotiate, I showed her the money. I always ask permission one way or the other and I am ok to pay in full to let them walk.

You come to Brazil probably 4 years too late for better price. Scandallo was 500 and maybe up to 1 K before for me. MP was 400 to 600. I was not looking for BBFS but it was always BBFS as long as they are not experienced working girls. Seeking was more. Then the game changed to money and poker on both, like certain political movement. Cities like Sao Paulo, Florianpolis and Balnerio Cambori have more new games, the other cities still have old games. To guarantee to have fun like some, study the tribe and the rule of the game.

You can use a love motel when you have problem with your AirBnb

[Anaggie]

Could you provide pricing for the MP dates? Agreed to terms + price? TY.

Price I offered was 800 R for short encounters and 1300-1500 R for overnights. Some girls tried to charge more but I didn't entertain them as they sounded more pro. I didn't set up terms since I didn't want a pro experience. If you try to dictate terms, the non-pro might not go with you. The pro will accept terms. The only thing I confirmed was "intimate" time at the hotel and then let it happen naturally which is the point of MP dates.

[Tasss]

Had an Meu Patrocino (MP for short) date set up for lunch and we went to Fogo Fo Cho in the mall.

Could you provide pricing for the MP dates? Agreed to terms + price? TY.

[Tasss]

US Mobile offers an Premium Unlimited plan that gives you 20 GB per month data internationally and unlimited domestically. I used this and was able to get data right out of GRU. It's much cheaper than Google Fi and the advantage over eSIMs is that the plan works in the US as well, just like any other normal plan. The only thing is that I have to manually select VIVO as the carrier, otherwise my phone registers to Claro BR which doesn't work that well.

Attaching photos of a couple of Scan girls I added as contacts. I would say they are around mid-level for Scandallo, at least on Saturday. The girl sitting on the bench might be a bit lower than mid. Just to repeat what others have said already, the thing about Scandallo is that the girls are very well put together. The presentation is excellent and that's kind of what you're paying for. After the clothes come off, that differentiator mostly goes away. Attitude and body fitness matters at that time. There are a few, maybe around 10-15 that I saw, that I made me think this girl wouldn't work anywhere else that I've been to. But those girls know they're hot, some don't make eye contact and the GPS is kind of a turn off.

[Anaggie]

Saturday 2/21.

Checked into the Grand Hyatt. Great room but I don't care for the area. Not really walkable and you are stuck eating at the mall nearby which has some good choices and I ended up eating there twice during the weekend. Lalabo was also staying at the same hotel so we had lunch together and then headed to a place that I consider my version of Disneyland the world famous Scandello!!

Since it was a Saturday afternoon and we all know that it will be slow on Saturdays, I chose that day to get the partying itch scratched. Bottle of gin ordered, tables reserved, Axel Hyest on the way to meet us it was going to be a fun night. We ended up finishing two bottles of gin, a few rounds of tequila shots and we ordered another bottle but it didn't get consumed and was saved for a later date. Saw some girls that I have known for a few years and they partied with us. Ended with two of them at the hotel later and should have had BBFSCIP with both but one reneged and now she has been blacklisted by me. Girl selection was good but a little slow due to the tail end of Carnaval.

Sunday.

Had an Meu Patrocino (MP for short) date set up for lunch and we went to Fogo Fo Cho in the mall. Date turned out to be prettier than her pictures which was a nice surprise and we had agreed for R1500 for Sunday lunch till Monday after breakfast. Lunch done and we get back to the hotel. Round one starts after we get a drink and I ask her about BBFSCIP show her my tests and she shows me hers and we move forward. Head down to the pool after we are done and meet up with Lalabo before his flight home. After he leaves, we get another round in and then head to Nakka sushi which surprisingly was very good and they had all the items that I enjoy in stock maguro, chutoro, otoro, and uni. So dinner was a hit. Back to the hotel, get another round in and sleep. Both of us slept great and we got another round in while waiting for breakfast to be delivered in the room which she loved. She left after breakfast and I checked out and moved to the Renaissance.

Monday.

After checking in to the Renaissance, I got ready for another MP dinner date. This one was a math major and a polyglot so I was pretty excited to meet her and she looked pretty good in her pictures. We decided on Japanese for dinner and I chose Pub Keito which was really good and will write a review on the Brazilian gastronomy thread. She shows up and I was a bit disappointed since she wasn't as pretty as her pics. But I am a nice guy and didn't want to be rude plus I thought maybe the attraction would grow thru dinner. We had dinner and she suggested to go back to the hotel. So I was like sure. I liked her personality and enjoyed the conversation so let's see what happens. Back in the room, she was a total noob in the bed which turned me off. It wasn't happening so I let her go home faking tiredness and a desire to sleep alone and she understood.

After she left around midnight, I decided to salvage the night by heading to Casaro. That was a mistake approx 60-70 girls and I saw ONE I was interested in and by the time I found her and talked to her, it was 3 am and I was exhausted. So I got her number and went to bed.

Tuesday.

I had another MP date scheduled for lunch and she ended up cancelling so I headed to Scandello for lunch and to spend the day. Had a plate of their bolognese pasta for lunch and it was super filling and pretty good. Saw a tall mixed girl with curly hair and talked to her. I don't ask the girls what they charge anymore. I just tell them what I am willing to pay and they can say yes or no. Told her 1 k and she said 1. 5 and I said nope. She accepted at 1 k and up we went. Very great BJ and a nice view when fucking since she was lean and tall. Round 1 done and went back down.

Saw a girl walking around that I had seen on Saturday. Super skinny with a very nice body and face. Called her over and started talking. After a few drinks, took her upstairs and she was about to put the condom on for a BJ and I was like WTF? She said that the club doesn't allow BBBJ and she would get in trouble. I told her I am a regular and I know about what the club offers. So she says she won't do it. I said cool. Let's cancel the session and we can go downstairs. She said she wants to get paid and I laugh and go. You will get paid downstairs after I explain to the manager and see what he says about payment. So then she says. No that is fine and then proceeds to give a great BBBJ. After some 69, we put the condom in and start with her on top. While banging her in doggy. Her ass looked so welcoming that I had to ask about anal her reply was "que delcia" so I said let's do it. She said not in the room but outside. I said ok and we agreed to take her out. She wanted 2 k for takeout and I wanted to pay her 1 k since I already paid her 1 k. She said no. So I told her. 1 k all BBFSCIP for the night but she would be on my list for repeats in all my future trips. Told her to ask about me from the other girls and see if she wants to be on the list. She said she would think about it.

So I went back out and hung around for a while talking to different girls. A lot that I liked weren't drinking so I wasn't interested in them but the quality was so much better than Casaro. At the time, my MP date texted me and apologized for cancelling and we set up lunch for tomorrow.

The skinny girl came back around and told me that she accepts the offer only if I have my recent tests (which I told her I have) and vasectomy proof. So I show those to her and off we go.

At the hotel, she is ready to fuck. 20 yrs old and a moaner. She was into it. While fucking, she tells me not to come in her and I said we had agreed to that. So she says come in my mouth or ass. Of course, I chose her ass and shot it in her ass. Go to sleep and get another round in the morning as she just spoons next to me and position her pussy for me to access and I ended up cumming on her body. She left pretty early so I got breakfast and planned my day.

Wednesday.

Since I had rescheduled the MP date for today, we booked Italian for lunch. Met up and she was a naturally pretty girl and she looked like she would be fun. We ate and she had a few glasses of wine which made her more animated and talkative. Went back to the hotel where she had a gin and tonic and hit the weed vape. After a few drinks, she came and sat on my lap and we ended up on the bed. Agreed to BBFSCIP after seeing my tests and we finished two rounds. She asked what my plans were and I said that I might hit up Scandello after she leaves. So she says that she wants to go with me to see the place. I said sure and off we go. We get to Scandello and I see three of the girls that I am friendly and we all get a table. They are talking to her and drinks are flowing. Too easy. The MP date is drinking and getting more and more drunk. Too the point where she spills my drink on me and I am like time to go home. Drop her off at the hotel, get her in an uber and I head back to Scandello. Get my table and my bottle and the girls come back. And soon one of the girls and I decide to get some Molly and the party has started. We are drinking and dancing till 3 am and head back to the hotel. The girl who does the Molly with me is drunk and high as am I and she decides she is coming home with me since she doesn't want to be at home alone. Get back to the hotel l, take a small hit of Molly and let it do its thing while we are in the bed talking and listening to music. We finally fall asleep at 6 am and she leaves the next morning around 10 am. I have a flight to Rio at 4 pm and I am seriously hungover and serotonin deprived.

Thursday.

Leave to Rio at 4 pm and call it a night around 8 pm. Grab dinner at Parla Tratorria in Copa and get a pizza and tiramisu and hit the bed.

Friday.

Work all day and we arrive to 4 x4 around 6 pm. Isn't too busy and I am not really in the mood to do anything so I just sit with a beer and girl watch with my friend. We leave around 9 pm after having three beers. Approx 30-40 girls and I found two that I was interested in and one was a maybe. I haven't been to 4 x4 in over a year now since I hate fucking in the rooms there and don't want to deal with the bullshit of takeout. Was the quality as good as Scandello? Not even close. But that is a personal preference. It probably doesn't help coming from Scandello to Rio and usually I stop off in Rio first before SP so the terma girls actually look good. To each his own.

Saturday.

Left Rio and arrived into SP and checked into Westin for one night so I could earn the extra elite credit night that Marriott is currently promoting. Last night in town so I got all my errands done, got lunch at an awesome Korean spot near the hotel, showered and in Scandello around 5 pm.

Surprisingly, it was really good for a Saturday afternoon and exponentially better than anything at any of the Rio termas. I ran into the same girl from Wednesday night so she sat at my table, and then the girl from last Saturday came over and she sat at my table and the gin started flowing. During one of my bathroom breaks, I see this tall girl in a white dress with black hair and I was like fuck she is hot. But I kept walking and figured I would see her outside and talk to her. We ended up moving to the bigger patio and then to the inside couches before I finally saw her again. She saw me and I called her over.

We started talking and I find out that it is her first day at Scandello and her first time doing this. Supposedly. Now I am kinda rethinking this deal. I really don't like first timers as they are shy and nervous. She accepted a drink and we started talking. Easy flowing conversation and I like her a lot. After talking a bit, I leaned in to kiss her and she accepts and she reciprocates equally which is always a good sign. We make out a for a while and I squeeze her tits which are natural so I ask her to go upstairs. She wants 1. 5 k and I told her 1 k. She says ok and off we go. In the room she removes her dress and she has a banging body after having two kids (found this out later) so it doesn't really bother me. She knows what she is doing in the bed and we both enjoyed it. I told her next time it will be BBFS and she said that is fine. Take my number and we can get together outside so we can spend more time together.

Back to the table and my usual girls come back to sit and talk and check out the scene. Now there are a lot more girls than guys. Ratio is like 3-1. So I go around to see what I can find and see the girl from Tuesday night. So she comes over to talk. I ask her what her plans are for tonight and she says work. So I offer her 2 k to leave and she says 3 k. Nope. And back out she goes to try her luck. I tell I will be staying for a while so she can work and then come back to me if she wants to and if I am not occupied. I like her body and sex with her is really good so I am tempted at 3 k but I stand firm.

Pour another drink and the girl I put in the blacklist comes over. Since I have been drinking, I tell her that she isn't going to be on my list anymore and she asks why. I tell her why and she gives me some reason not based in science and I explain that to her and she says that she understands and wants to make it up to me tonight. Told her nope. Maybe next time. But as she is leaving her friend comes over and her friend is this beautiful tall blonde with fabulous natural tits and a rocking body. I invite the blonde in and offer her a drink. She wants something else instead of what is on the table. She says it is her birthday so I said sure. We start talking. No kids and she is 21 today. But she is fucked up. Like she is going to be a mess in the room fucked up. So she gets her drink and we keep talking and she asks for another one and I told her no. She is too fucked up and needs to slow down. She didn't like that and left which was fine by me. I will see her next time and then fuck her when she isn't as drunk.

Now it is past midnight and the place has gotten packed. Pretty equal ratio of guys to girls so I know the girls are going to be busy. I walk around some more and talk to more girls but there is a really high number of girls not drinking and it is their first time at the club. I don't trust people who don't / won't drink especially if I have been drinking. Not an issue if you don't drink and I am sober because we are both in the same state of mind. Anyway. I digress.

So I wait around some more and the skinny girl comes over to try again for 3 k and I told her no. I am leaving now and it is 2 k or nothing. So she thinks for a bit and says ok. And off we go back to the hotel.

In the room we get showered and the sex is phenomenal and she offers to let me CIM and says that in the morning, I can finish in her ass. As we go to sleep, she decides she isn't sleepy and wants food at 3 am. I am like nope. I am sleepy. So she orders food from ifood which of course gets cancelled and now she is hungry. I am not doing room service because I am sleepy as fuck. So she sits around all night on her phone because she can't sleep and then finally gets a sandwich delivered at 7 am and goes downstairs to get it. She eats it in the room and goes to bed around 8 am. I sleep in till 11 and then get ready to fuck her one more time and send her on the her way. So wake her up and tell her it's time for what she offered last night and we get started. We switch to doggy and I tell her that I will put it in her ass when I am ready and she says ok. As I feel the buildup, I pull out, rub some lube and stick it in her ass. Now she is moaning pretty loudly and that is even more of a turn on so I finish in her ass and take a shower. She does the same and leaves with 2 k and a promise of her being added to my repeat list for my next trip in April. I then pack my bags, checkout and wait to head to the airport in the evening for my flight back home.

In short:

Scandello is still THE BEST AND BADDEST PUTA PLACE IN THE WORLD. This who say it isn't haven't been and those who can't afford it. I understand that. I have visited all the other clubs in SP and still come to this one because it offers everything I want. I know all the waiters, the bouncers and have a nice list of repeat girls that I enjoy. Don't fix what isn't broken.

Some tips:

Don't ask girls what they charge. Tell them what you offer and see what they say. The asking rate is 1. 5 k for in house and 3 k outside. You decide what you are comfortable with and go from there.

Buy a bottle if you really want to have fun. If you don't drink, that is cool too.

I met a few guys who were from the USA and one of them was tipping the girls to sit and kiss and touch them up. Told him to stop doing that as it teaches the girls bad habits. Another one was trying to settle for 500 are for short time and was getting shot down by all of them. Then he tried to get numbers for outside and I doubt anything came of that as well. I did see him a few times that evening just walking around by himself and he would stop by my table to just see the girls but he was getting nowhere. I don't understand this mentality. You spend money to come all the way down here just to be a cheap Charlie at the worst possible place. Budget for Scandello for one or two nights and do cheaper options during the rest of your stay.

Anyway. Sorry for the long post. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed my time. Next trip is in April and then a 50th birthday in June with all the boys!

[Tasss]

In response to the previous member posts, the fact is that it is possible on the first meeting with extra payment. I think you just need to choose the right venues. Scan will be hard and expensive. Lower level clubs might not be. So far I did I get it twice today I got it on my first trip to Casarao except the girl got blocked by the doorman. If you don't want to pay more, it'll be hard here, but it'll also be hard if you don't pay in most places outside of SEA and it's your first time with the girl. That shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. People who do BBFS know the risks and most are willing to pay more. Some, like me, will also take medication to prevent the worst from happening. In the end it's just personal preference.

The actual report follows. All the information below was on Sunday 3/1.

If you refer to my previous post, that Scan girl who quoted me 1400 + 400 decided to forget what we agreed to in the club and wanted 2.5 k in the morning or 1.5 if I took a local STD exam. I passed on this.

I figured it was easier to get BB in the lower and mid level clinicas. Sharon was probably too tough or too expensive. I had the goal of doing it once in house then I can have the girl do outcalls after. First went to Yankin. It was like 75% Asian dudes there that day. Most look to be working class to lower-middle class countryside Chinese people. The roster was not great, worse than the first time I went. There are a lot of Chinese companies in Brazil and Yankin is probably right at the level of what their salaries can afford regularly. The P4P standards that the working class Chinese are used to at home is not very high so it figures that they'd be OK with Yankin's roster that day. I only interviewed one girl, but she admitted she had a see-section scar and I didn't move forward with her.

Went to Moema Prime. There weren't many girls but only 1 guy was waiting in the lounge. One girl stood out and I asked her about BB. She started with a 400 tip and we agreed to 300 + the normal 1 hour house fee of 350. Very good session. If I could do a rough comparison, the service level was about the same as a Medellin FB chica. Great body, lovely face. Finished inside her. She was a Latina but there's a difference between the Colombian / Venezuelan Latinas and Brazilians. The Colombian and Venezuelan girls have softer facial features. Brazilian girls seem to carry over more European facial features like sharp jawlines and eye color, even if they are Latina in terms of skin tone. Total cost was 650 for the hour + 20 for paying the house fee by credit card. Scheduled her for an outcall next day.

Out of curiosity, I went to check out the streetwalker area that was noted a few posts ago. So as far as I can tell, the girls are mostly alone the small streets perpindicular to Ave Indianapolis and Ave Irere. They go from Alameda dos Guaios to about Alameda dos Quinimuras. I didn't bother to walk any further because the SW population was so sparse when I went and quality was terrible.

Night time, went to Casarao. 3:30 am there were maybe 40-50 girls which is still plenty to choose from. Even though the gender ratio is about equal, most girls seem unoccupied for some reason, and the guys are just chatting with each other, drinking or hanging around doing nothing. This makes it easy for me to approach some hotties. First girl I talked to said BBFS is OK, but she can't go back to my apartment. Talked to a second girl and she rejected BBFS. Hung around a little bit, walked between the bar and downstairs area, and the first girl approached me again and said OK we can go but she drives. She started off at 2 k but we negotiated for 800 for 1 HR and 1000 for 2 HR if we click. She's a pretty white brunette with a GND look to her, she says she's 19 from Minas Gerais. We go to the apartment, she gives me a solid BJ but during sex she kind of tires out quickly. I give her the option to stay for the second hour, but she say she's tired. No problems. Total damage = 210 to the house + 800 for the girl. As others have pointed out, it seems like a lot of girls from outside of SP just come here to work the clubs for a bit and go back home.

Service wise, it's good, but I can't say I'm blown away by Brazil so far. We'll see in the end. I think the guys who speak Porto will fare better, just like if you speak Spanish in Colombia you'll click better with the girl. For the three sessions I've done, they're comparable to Medellin FB girls.

[Combo]

Sorry to burst your bubble, SP is not known as a BBFS place where you can pay more for an extra. Few working girls will do this with a client they never met before. Unlike Columbia FB and the Philippines scenes. BB uptake can be high with girls you met before or they see it as special events like Anaggie epic take outs. BB just happens and I rarely pay extra for it. Of course, you can filter out girls who are willing to do it but they will not be top tier and you will have pay a lot more for it.

"BB just happens and I rarely pay extra for it. " That sums it up perfectly. Trying to strike a deal for BB with a girl you haven't been with before is generally going to cost you. And the ones that agree to it are the ones most likely to have some infection you don't want.

It may seem counterintuitive but the best strategy is to not actively look for it. In my experience, if I get along with a chick in Latin America, by the third time together, she will initiate it. To me that's a good reason to not repeat too much.

[NF4591]

Hello gents. I'll arrive in Sao Paulo on Easter Sunday and I'll be there for that week. I'm interested in what the city's like to find girls and if there's anything I should do to adjust? I've been to SP once before and I loved Scandallo. I know they're closed on Sundays anyway, so I thought I'd try Casarao on Sunday night, then Scandallo for the rest of the week. Is that reasonable, or would you suggest a different plan for that week? I'm not too price-sensitive, I'm willing to pay for good service but I don't like feeling ripped off, of course. I searched for prior posts about Easter and found some questions about it, and a few answers speculating on what it would be like. But I didn't see conclusive answers, so asking here so that I can know what to plan for.

Also, if others will be there the same week and want to meet up to hit Scandallo and other places together, DM me to meet up.

[SamaRiding]

In the end I just wasn't ready to pay 2 k or more because the girls who did agree to BB were mid level by Scandallo terms. There are FB girls in Medellin at the same level of hotness who would do BB for much less than what they're asking. Indeed some women I met on FB in Medellin could definitely work in Scan. Maybe the differentiator is the level of service but I've no point of comparison on the SP side just yet.

Sorry to burst your bubble, SP is not known as a BBFS place where you can pay more for an extra. Few working girls will do this with a client they never met before. Unlike Columbia FB and the Philippines scenes. BB uptake can be high with girls you met before or they see it as special events like Anaggie epic take outs. BB just happens and I rarely pay extra for it. Of course, you can filter out girls who are willing to do it but they will not be top tier and you will have pay a lot more for it.

Many of the Moema Airbnb allow guests and is very safe at night. Just have to confirm with the host.

[Nounce]

One of them was near Parque Princesa Isabelle. One review pointed out that the area looked dangerous, but others were 5 stars. I booked it thinking it's no big deal since I've been to Santa Fe in Bogota and Plaza Botero in Medellin at night in both places. When I got there, it was worse than I thought. There were drug addicts gallore and groups of young men loitering. It was really unnerving walking in that area trying to find ATMs or food. I'd compare it to the couple of streets north of Plaza Botero in Medellin where all the addicts are. So a word of advice, even from a guy who's used to those sketchy areas, that corner of downtown is no good. I bailed on that Airbnb, absorbing another cancelation penalty.

It's near Cracolandia where the druggies live. It's the same as Zoombie Ally in Medellin. Medellin is smaller with less than 2 blocks and there is a open air street market the sells drugs with police presence. I would stay. LOL. I have walked around the whole downtown area many times at night, Repblica, Mercado Municipal, Luz, Rio Blanco. Medellin has more criminal elements active at night and drug is everywhere Most taxi won't even stop at downtown at night. One night, my phone was out of battery, I have to go to the middle of the street to stop a taxi because the taxi would not stop when I or others flagged them from the curb. I used to just walked to Laureles under the same situation but after a couple of robbery attempts, I changed my behavior.

You don't have to pay for the drink bill that you did not order. You are unlucky. When I started to go, there was hardly any negotiation because the offered price was reasonable. The first one I took out stayed in the Scandallo dorm. It was closing time, so she suggested that we waited it out. Haha. I was also scorned by another member here for not paying exit fee. Then we walked to the Scandallo apartment to store her luggage and went to a love motel. They were less corrupted by money then.

BBFS is difficult with working girls working in an establishment but it is usually default for non-working girls, or girls from dating site. Often it is not even mentioned. In Medellin, it is much easier but it maybe also because they don't work in an establishment as well.

[Combo]

Will check this.

Before my Scan report I got a girl from there to meet me for 1400 for 1 HR at my apartment outside of Scan working hours (during the day time). But on Whatsapp she says she wants to add the club exit fee of 400 to make it 1800. Is this a scam? We agreed to 1400 so is she just fishing for extra money? 1400 / HR outcall was for BBFS we agreed to in the club but we didn't exit the club together.

OK for Scan, my perspective comes from someone who got used to bringing girls back for BBFS so my take may be very very different for someone more flexible.

In the end I just wasn't ready to pay 2 k or more because the girls who did agree to BB were mid level by Scandallo terms. There are FB girls in Medellin at the same level of hotness who would do BB for much less than what they're asking. Indeed some women I met on FB in Medellin could definitely work in Scan. Maybe the differentiator is the level of service but I've no point of comparison on the SP side just yet.

Obviously she was trying to scam you, although maybe that's not the best verb to describe it. You weren't taking her out from the club, so why would you pay an exit free?.

I automatically discard them from consideration if they try to pull that type of shit on me.

[Tochka]

Bomboa 222 Just Another Stop, not a Destination.

Stopped by Bomboa 222 after doing a few solid rounds at Casarão. Sighh yet another hotel bar vibe.

Maybe I'm jaded from hotel pickup bars at this point — Bomboa, Café Foto, Bahamas, Zeus — they all start blending together. But coming straight from Casarão I had to adjust expectations way, way down. Like. A lot.

There were maybe 10 garotas working that night. Most looked around 30+. Not terrible, More in line with Bahamas / Café Foto / Zeus tier. It just didn't hit for me.

The layout is claustrophobic small. Tables with a,sit-down vibe where you eat, drink, and hang with whichever garota is circulating. One mature blonde was doing a fully nude table dance for four guys — looked like a bachelor party. That was probably the most energy in the room.

I ordered some food and chatted with a 31-year-old fake blonde. She looked a bit worn down. I don't ask garotas "quanto?" I just threw out are $500 brl. She accepted so quick, immediate said Yes to my offer. Damn. Yikes. She mentioned the Room upstairs, are $200. After doing quick or not so quick mental calculus I declined. To session or go upstair. I countered we could meet tommorrow afternoon instead and have relax time with a pool, marola and drinks at the love motel. She gave me her whatsapp & instagram to arrange meetup.

In Bomboa Nothing really grabbed my attention that night. No chemistry, no standout. Just felt average place meh, mas e menis type place. At exit paid $400 brl total. Some rando waiter came over to ask for a tip. Wtf told him gtfo dude. Didn't need any "help" having boring conversations with equally bored garotas.

Only positive? The old-school flashback music was actually cool.

Bottom line: It's not terrible. It's just another place. If you haven't been spoiled by Casarão, maybe you'll enjoy it more than I did.

[Nounce]

I had the impression from some posts that Airbnb door guards in general are pretty chill.

I think the key is that the place is not run by cooperate security, especially the newer buildings with double gates or entrances like a prison.

Tangara had no girl above a 5. I saw a bunch of Asian dudes in the waiting room. Being Asian myself I'm wondering whether we just have very low standards when it comes to girls' service and maybe looks.

Scandalllo had many Asians treating it like a neighborhood bar when I used to go while I stayed in Sao Paulo. I mentioned it in my report.

[Nounce]

Come man Nounce, the cane is right you can't compare a regular hotel (however nice and luxurious it may be) to a sex brothel. We all can agree, as a sex venue, Scandallo is pretty luxurious and I'm comparing it with FKK Sharks which is a fair comparison.

I took the photo and it is the brothel, not a hotel. I clarified it today in the post below.

What's the name of this place and location in Asia? I want to know, and Steve wants to know..

Steve and you, I apologize for not answering directly. It probably will become obvious once I mention it. It will be interesting to see the reactions when someone start to rave about it like Scandallo in the right thread.

I agree with tribe thing and there are mongers in different tribes that have different tastes. I know a Chinese guy who'd never pay for an Asian girl, and I know a white guy who only pays for Asian girls.

That is part of it. It is also about personality. When I read Steve's post, he gets peak performance and fun in a short time. I know I won't have that because I am not him, and I don't have the same personality. That means I am in a different tribe. That is why I suggest to read the post and knowing the personality to see if you belong to the same tribe in order to get the same outcome.

This touches on having a good wingman. I have met many. They showed me their tribes and made me one of them by teaching me how.