Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[Banana Boi]

I'm new to the scene, which is why I'm asking for help and contacts. There's nothing wrong with asking questions when you're new to something.

It's more that whenever we see a post saying "can I have xxx's contact information" it's almost always from the same nationality and when we search their posts they're all the same thing, asking for information and not providing any reviews at all.

You may be a fantastic guy but sadly many before you have ruined it for you. Not unlike you may be a guy who will spend 10-20 k baht on lady drinks at a top Walking Street gogo bar but you will never gain entry because of those before you.

[11Bravo]

First of all, don't drag my country or nationality into this. If you have an issue with me, address me directly without resorting to cheap stereotypes.

I'm new to the scene, which is why I'm asking for help and contacts. There's nothing wrong with asking questions when you're new to something. If you don't want to help, that's absolutely fine just move on instead of keeping track of my posts and commenting on my activity. You seem to be paying more attention to my profile than necessary.

You don't have to help me, and I don't owe you an explanation. If you have nothing constructive to contribute, stay out of it. Simple as that.

1. At one point in time, EVERYONE here was a newbie, including me. Nothing wrong in asking questions. But I also understand reciprocity, and contributing. Like the masthead on the Indian thread says:

NO DESPERATE PLEAS FOR HELP!
DO NOT post messages begging other members to help you find a girl. If you do not have actual information to contribute, then DO NOT post.

Asking where's a good place to look for, that's general. Asking for a girl's contact, that's specific, and, where I come from, that's a name and number, especially if foreign and a FL.

Like I said, you weren't begging, but certainly a lot of asking. With no feedback provided.

And yes, I do vet. Force of habit. Before I pass along a CONTACT, I want to have an idea of who I'm dealing with. FR'S help with that, regardless of where posted.

2. I live in the real world, and (unfortunately), race and nationality DO play a part. If you think Thailand is colorblind, good luck with that. And since you brought up race, let's be honest. By your question, you're looking for a certain type. So is she.

Plenty of info here on where to find Thais. After all, this is Thailand. For a local businesswoman, they have the home court advantage. For a foreign businesswoman, they don't, and so are more careful. Fact of life, certain nationalities have a bad rap due to the actions of a FEW.

3. Finally, I was being helpful. Pattaya has a higher concentration of Russians than Bangkok, thus a higher probability of success. Yes, general, not specific. Still, functional.

Like HorseTrader says, here it's more places than individuals. You can always try this:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2762933
Look at "Searching, at your leisure" section, use search string "russian". Yes, homework.

Bottom line: You're free to post as you like; so am I.

Inside there were lots of girls, Thai as well as foreigners. But it was difficult to know about girl is freelancer or regular and in foreigner case tourist.

Your contributions appreciated.

That's true the world over. My solution is just to TRY and strike up a conversation with her. If you're invisible (ah yes, the ole cloak of invisibiltiy), she turns away, walks away, she's not interested. Moot point as to whether she's working or not.

If she participates in the conversation, if she's there for business, she'll soon let you know. Time IS money. Like an airport, a plane parked at her gate blocks any other circling planes. A civilian, a lookie-lou, is loosing time (and money). She wants to free up that gate for someone who is interested in business.

Where you from? : How fat is your wallet, how safe are you.

How long you stay Thailand? : Can I give you the tourist price, or must I give you the resident price.

Where you stay? : Another indication of wallet / safety, plus allows for calculation of transportation time / return cost.

If still indeterminate, ask what she's doing "later". Just like any bar, be careful of anyone wanting you to pick up the tab for a few. A businesswoman wants to make money, not drink.

Key off of the direction of the conversation. Like when you're walking down the street. The "My friend, where are you going?", you can quickly determine civilian question or someone wanting to take you somewhere.

If you're looking for a freebie pickup, that's one thing. But IMPE, if business CONFIRMED, best to confirm price, menu, time of departure BEFORE leaving the establishment, along with pay AFTER. If the last is not possible, then that is a variable to consider. Just prevents any number of problems later.

[SubCmdr]

What do they say, you can take the Indian out of India, but you can't take the India out of the Indian.

In my opinion, this is a racist comment and defamatory against the individual it was aimed had. It as NO place in ISG!

I will also add that 11Bravo should answer the question or just shut the fuck up!

[SubCmdr]

Prostitution is not legal in the Kingdom of Thailand!

Sex workers group calls for enquiry into arrest of 25 Pattaya street prostitutes before US carrier visit

For their part, officials stressed that prostitution remained illegal.

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-ne...carrier-visit/

Tourist Police Raid Pattaya Beach in Major Sweep, Arrest 16 Foreign Women for Alleged Solicitation of Prostitution

They were found to be engaging in behavior that violated Section 5 of the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act B.E. 2539 (1996), specifically for contacting, soliciting, introducing themselves, or approaching individuals in public places for the purpose of prostitution.

https://thepattayanews.com/2026/04/1...-prostitution/

Pattaya Police and Immigration Officers Crack Down on Suspected Prostitution Along Beachfront, 20 Mostly Foreign Women Arrested

Officers, some disguised as tourists, conducted surveillance and observed individuals standing on the sidewalk along Pattaya Beach. These women reportedly initiated conversations with foreign visitors, negotiated prices, and invited them for sexual encounters. In some cases, searches uncovered condoms and lubricating gel, which were seized as evidence.

https://thepattayanews.com/2026/02/1...omen-arrested/

PATTAYA POLICE ARREST 13 FOREIGN SEX WORKERS, SOME USE STUDENT VISAS

Initially, all 13 were detained under violations of Section 5 for soliciting, suggesting, introducing, following, or pestering along streets or in public places for prostitution. Two individuals were also charged with being foreigners staying in the Kingdom after their permission had expired. They were sent to Pattaya City Police Station for legal proceedings, visa revocation, and eventual deportation

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/...student-visas/

Prostitution is not legal in Thailand!

[HorseTrader]

First of all, don't drag my country or nationality into this. If you have an issue with me, address me directly without resorting to cheap stereotypes

If you think Thai businesses and people do not judge based on race and country of origin, you would be wrong. Young, handsome, wealthy Korean and Japanese men seem to be at the top of the pecking order, the rest of us are lower. There are reasons for it. Get used to it.

You make zero positive progress by attacking known posters in this forum. Bravo is right, your posting history is long on questions and short on good responses and reports.

This forum tends not to recommend specific girls, so don't expect that. There have been many reports that guide people to certain areas and sometimes certain businesses. You need to spend more effort reading and less effort asking questions and bashing posters.

[SubCmdr]

But I found a few others.

About the same time that Windmill was raided, the police arrested one guy in a love hotel, reportedly for solicitation. He was arrested in a hot tub with a young lady, who apparently had been cooperating with the police.

Danish Tourist and Thai Woman Caught in Obscene Act on Floating Buoy Off Pattaya Beach, Social Media Outraged

A 27-year-old domestic Thai tourist was left stunned and shaken while collecting shellfish on Jomtien Beach when he spotted a Danish man and a Thai woman engaged in what appeared to be sexual intercourse on a floating buoy in the sea in low tide, prompting an immediate police response.

https://thepattayanews.com/2025/12/2...edia-outraged/

Thai Cops Arrested a Bunch of Tourists at a Hotel Orgy

On Saturday night at about 11:30 PM police stormed a hotel room at the Ban Tulip Hotel in South Pattaya. What they found was 25 people in various stages of copulation, with sex toys, lube, and condoms scattered about the floor. Eleven men of varying origin were arrested along with 14 women.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/thai...-a-hotel-orgy/

[InsatiableFuck]

Need some contact of Russian or European girl in Bangkok.

My DM is open. Please help me someone.

Sorry if I got your hopes up. I am a bit clueless on this. Mixx, the night club, is said to have Russian women. Levels too.

I have been a few times, and never seen an available Russian or European girl (a few were with boyfriends or clients). There are definitely escort sites with these girls in BKK. If you google "Bangkok Russian escorts", you will get plenty of hits. I have looked at these sites, but as I prefer thin Thai girls to anyone else, I have never taken the bait.

I mostly do ThaiFriendly, because I can ask girls if they do BBFS in a straightforward way before committing myself. There are occasionally some Easter European girls there.

[DrColter]

8 posts, all asking for contacts. Well, you are consistent. At least you're asking, not begging. Thanks for the offer of Delhi contacts, but I'll pass. But you might consider posting some AR's to establish some cred.

What do they say, you can take the Indian out of India, but you can't take the India out of the Indian.

You might try Pattaya. In Thailand, it's more self-serve. Good luck.

First of all, don't drag my country or nationality into this. If you have an issue with me, address me directly without resorting to cheap stereotypes.

I'm new to the scene, which is why I'm asking for help and contacts. There's nothing wrong with asking questions when you're new to something. If you don't want to help, that's absolutely fine — just move on instead of keeping track of my posts and commenting on my activity. You seem to be paying more attention to my profile than necessary.

You don't have to help me, and I don't owe you an explanation. If you have nothing constructive to contribute, stay out of it. Simple as that.

[SubCmdr]

Yes lots of freelancers are available in bars and clubs on soi 11 sukhumvit. I recently visited MIRA clus just next to sugar club. It was a long queue for entry. Inside there were lots of girls, Thai as well as foreigners. But it was difficult to know about girl is freelancer or regular and in foreigner case tourist. Has anyone scored in freelancer in MIRA club? Thai or foreigner..

This is not fucking brain surgery. I turned down freelancers in Mira. I didn't have to wait in no queue to get in either.

Let's me get back to discussing the legality of prostitution with the senior member who does not fuck. It's actually more interesting.

[Explorer8939]

About the same time that Windmill was raided, the police arrested one guy in a love hotel, reportedly for solicitation. He was arrested in a hot tub with a young lady, who apparently had been cooperating with the police.

[11Bravo]

Need some contact of Russian or European girl in Bangkok.

My DM is open. Please help me someone.

8 posts, all asking for contacts. Well, you are consistent. At least you're asking, not begging. Thanks for the offer of Delhi contacts, but I'll pass. But you might consider posting some AR's to establish some cred.

What do they say, you can take the Indian out of India, but you can't take the India out of the Indian.

You might try Pattaya. In Thailand, it's more self-serve. Good luck.

[SubCmdr]

Need some contact of Russian or European girl in Bangkok.

My DM is open. Please help me someone.

Second that. Why not post here reliable ways to find Russian WGs in Bangkok?

Has either of you thought about going to Moscow or a German FKK?

[SubCmdr]

Ok, let's see what we all have been taught about Thai Law according to SubCmdr, only to SubCmdr and no one else on the planet:

In his opinion and based on zero facts he alone has decided Windmill Bar on WS and the Soi 6 bar were deemed to be "prostitution establishments" by the police, the Thai DOJ and the people whose reports he linked to supposedly support anything he has been asserting about the legality of venues and locations that simply happened to have been the site of a legal or illegal solicitation for prostitution according to Thai Law and / or the fulfillment of an agreement to the perfectly legal and well-known and well-understood by the police and DOJ to be non criminal exchange of money for sex or sex for money between consenting adults in Thailand.

That is despite there being no mention of those bars being identified by anyone, not the police, not the DOJ, not the reporters, no one except SubCmdr quite a long time later that either bar was a "prostitution establishment".

It is also despite no one, not one single person in the bar, patronizing it, associtaing with the proprietors, the management, the staffers, other customers, not one person inside, outside, walking into them, out of them, nowhere related to the interior of those bars being arrested and charged with the clearly stated in plain language criminal penalty outcomes for anyone doing so in a "prostitution establishment" according to Thai Law.

It is also despite zero mentions in the reports he linked of even one prostitute nor one customer of a prostitute in either bar being arrested "for prostitution" of any kind according to Thai Law or for that matter even according to some Podunk country's law that Thailand and Thai Law doesn't give a shit about or prosecute anyone in Thailand for ever, much less for patronizing or working in a "prostitution establishment" according to Thai Law.

And, how about that; all of those facts vs SubCmdr's unsubstantiated opinions are right there in the plain language of Thai Law and the reports he linked, easy enough for anyone to read and comprehend without a Law degree, passing the Thai bar, ever having been personally convicted of a crime and without being a Thai citizen.

Well.

No doubt about it, SubCmdr is certainly teaching me and I have to assume everyone else who reads his posts something very important about Thai Law, his understanding of it and what he repeatedly tries in vain to convince anyone else reading his posts about it. But it doesn't appear to be the lesson he thinks it is.

Opinion: A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof.

This is exactly what EihTooms is giving us. He is not a Thai Citizen nor is he a member of the bar in Thailand. His so called facts are based on second hand knowledge in news reports. He has not read the police reports nor has he read the charging documents. The actual facts of the case are contained in those documents.

Here is a FACT undisputed by EihTooms that he continues to ignore:

In the history of ISG no one has ever produced legal opinion from a member of the bar in Thailand that says: Prostitution is Legal in Thailand

It is possible. You know it. You don't have to suppose. I don't know for sure either. I have not read the police report or the charging document. News reports don't mean jack in the courtroom. Even in the podunk country you are from.

You are reading a news report, not a police report, nor the charging document. You actually don't know for a fact what anyone was actually arrested and charged with in this particular case. Your statement supports the idea that I have always proffered that there is selective enforcement of the laws in Thailand related to this issue.

This is what I wrote!

News reports are not the police reports nor the charging documents. That is a FACT. A truth that EihTooms continues ignore. On this forum, I will continue to assert my opinion. EihTooms can continue to assert his opinion about the law. Both of our opinions have zero legal weight with the police or with the Thai Courts. Neither I nor EihTooms are members of the bar in Thailand.

In my opinion: the law (The Act) that we are discussing are written to allow for selective enforcement. It's all good. Until it isn't. Just like what happened with the Nominee Structures here in Thailand. Now, I have a theory as to why these laws are written as they are and why they are selectively enforced but that is another discussion.

It should also be noted

I don't give a fuck what EihTooms thinks. His opinion holds no weight with me nor with the Thai Courts.

[EihTooms]

Opinions of EihTooms

Your opinion. You have neither enforced Thai Law no spoken with the Thai authorities in order make this statement.

You actually don't know what was in the charging documents so you are making your statement with incomplete information.

I deal in FACTS!

In the history of ISG no one has ever produced legal opinion from a member of the bar in Thailand that says: Prostitution is Legal in Thailand

The actual definition of prostitution reads as follows:

Prostitution means the acceptance of sexual intercourse, the acceptance of any other act, or the commission of any other act for sexual gratification of another person in a promiscuous manner for remuneration or any other benefit, irrespective of whether the person who accepts such act and the person who commits such act are of the same or opposite sex;.

in a promiscuous manner is not defined in the law nor has it been defined in Thai Courts.

There is no definition of solicitation for prostitution written into the law.

There is no definition of overtly and shamelessly or cause nuisance to the public.

If a case was to goto Thai Court then the Judge would determine if the circumstances supported by the facts met the standard. That standard is not set up front.

Prostitution Establishment means the place or premises arranged for prostitution or allowed for prostitution, and shall include the place used for making contact or procuring another person for prostitution;.

There is not requirement that a venue advertise that they are a prostitution establishment in order for them to be one. They simply must have premises arranged or allowed for prostitution or be a place used for making contact for prostitution.

That is the plain language of the law. It needs no interpretation from a non-Thai citizen, non-Thai member of the bar.

Anyone one who is actually familiar with police work on a street level would identify this a excellent police work.

This is your opinion. in a promiscuous manner is not defined in the law nor has it been defined in Thai Courts. You cannot speak for the Thai Courts. But you can always give your lay opinion as a non-Thai Citizen, non-member of the Thai Bar.

Once again this is your opinion. Filled with outrageous analogies that do not apply and a insane amount of hyperbole. There is no requirement that a prostitution establishment has to be clearly marked as you assert. Plain language of the law.

There is no mention that they were not charged with a violation of Section 6. You are reading a news report, not a police report, nor the charging document. You actually don't know for a fact what anyone was actually arrested and charged with in this particular case. You only know what you read in the article. You are the one always making the case that the news reports are incomplete. I can go through you previous posts, you have said this many times.

You are reading a news report, not a police report, nor the charging document. You actually don't know for a fact what anyone was actually arrested and charged with in this particular case. Your statement supports the idea that I have always proffered that there is selective enforcement of the laws in Thailand related to the issue of prostitution.

This is incorrect.

Lets review the law again:

Prostitution Establishment means the place or premises arranged for prostitution or allowed for prostitution, and shall include the place used for making contact or procuring another person for prostitution; .

Once again you are incorrect. If you actually have read the law there are very specific provisions in the law that create the violations related to prostitution. We goto the language of the law once again:

Section 5
Whoever, for the purpose of prostitution, offers, solicits, introduces oneself to, follows, or importunes another person on a street, in a public place, or any other place and such act is overtly and shamelessly committed or causes nuisance to the public, shall be punished with a fine not exceeding one thousand baht.

EihTooms considers 1000 THB as a heavy fine?

You are reading a news report, not a police report, nor the charging document. You actually don't know for a fact what anyone was actually arrested and charged with in this particular case. Your statement supports the idea that I have always proffered that there is selective enforcement of the laws in Thailand related to this issue.

It is possible. You know it. You don't have to suppose. I don't know for sure either. I have not read the police report or the charging document. News reports don't mean jack in the courtroom. Even in the podunk country you are from.

EihTooms has never seen the inside of a courtroom in his life except if it was for jury duty in his podunk country, in the podunk state, in the podunk county, in the podunk city where he is from. He has never cracked open a law book or a legal code. He has never analyzed the elements of a law then had to apply those elements to the facts of the case while writing a police report or explain them to a prosecutor who is charged with creating a charging document.

The Prosecution rests using the words of the defense!

https://mekongmigration.org/labourla...Act%201996.pdf

Ok, let's see what we all have been taught about Thai Law according to SubCmdr, only to SubCmdr and no one else on the planet:

In his opinion and based on zero facts he alone has decided Windmill Bar on WS and the Soi 6 bar were deemed to be "prostitution establishments" by the police, the Thai DOJ and the people whose reports he linked to supposedly support anything he has been asserting about the legality of venues and locations that simply happened to have been the site of a legal or illegal solicitation for prostitution according to Thai Law and / or the fulfillment of an agreement to the perfectly legal and well-known and well-understood by the police and DOJ to be non criminal exchange of money for sex or sex for money between consenting adults in Thailand.

That is despite there being no mention of those bars being identified by anyone, not the police, not the DOJ, not the reporters, no one except SubCmdr quite a long time later that either bar was a "prostitution establishment".

It is also despite no one, not one single person in the bar, patronizing it, associtaing with the proprietors, the management, the staffers, other customers, not one person inside, outside, walking into them, out of them, nowhere related to the interior of those bars being arrested and charged with the clearly stated in plain language criminal penalty outcomes for anyone doing so in a "prostitution establishment" according to Thai Law.

It is also despite zero mentions in the reports he linked of even one prostitute nor one customer of a prostitute in either bar being arrested "for prostitution" of any kind according to Thai Law or for that matter even according to some Podunk country's law that Thailand and Thai Law doesn't give a shit about or prosecute anyone in Thailand for ever, much less for patronizing or working in a "prostitution establishment" according to Thai Law.

And, how about that; all of those facts vs SubCmdr's unsubstantiated opinions are right there in the plain language of Thai Law and the reports he linked, easy enough for anyone to read and comprehend without a Law degree, passing the Thai bar, ever having been personally convicted of a crime and without being a Thai citizen.

Well.

No doubt about it, SubCmdr is certainly teaching me and I have to assume everyone else who reads his posts something very important about Thai Law, his understanding of it and what he repeatedly tries in vain to convince anyone else reading his posts about it. But it doesn't appear to be the lesson he thinks it is.

[SubCmdr]

Opinions of EihTooms

speaks volumes about how overt and shameless one needs to go for Thai authorities to bother with it.

Your opinion. You have neither enforced Thai Law no spoken with the Thai authorities in order make this statement.

It's a stretch and highly doubtful that either the Windmill Bar or the Soi 6 bar were determined to be "prostitition establishments" in this case. All of the details of the reports you linked argue against it.

You actually don't know what was in the charging documents so you are making your statement with incomplete information.

I deal in FACTS!

In the history of ISG no one has ever produced legal opinion from a member of the bar in Thailand that says: Prostitution is Legal in Thailand

The actual definition of prostitution reads as follows:

Prostitution means the acceptance of sexual intercourse, the acceptance of any other act, or the commission of any other act for sexual gratification of another person in a promiscuous manner for remuneration or any other benefit, irrespective of whether the person who accepts such act and the person who commits such act are of the same or opposite sex;.

in a promiscuous manner is not defined in the law nor has it been defined in Thai Courts.

There is no definition of solicitation for prostitution written into the law.

There is no definition of overtly and shamelessly or cause nuisance to the public.

If a case was to goto Thai Court then the Judge would determine if the circumstances supported by the facts met the standard. That standard is not set up front.

Prostitution Establishment means the place or premises arranged for prostitution or allowed for prostitution, and shall include the place used for making contact or procuring another person for prostitution;.

There is not requirement that a venue advertise that they are a prostitution establishment in order for them to be one. They simply must have premises arranged or allowed for prostitution or be a place used for making contact for prostitution.

That is the plain language of the law. It needs no interpretation from a non-Thai citizen, non-Thai member of the bar.

The police had to wait to be tipped off by an informant that prostitution was taking place inside the bars before they bothered to go inside them. And even then they had to wait until an offer to exchange sex for money was made to them.

Anyone one who is actually familiar with police work on a street level would identify this a excellent police work.

That is antithetical to the whole idea of a prostitution in a promiscuous manner establishment being set up for the purpose of prostitution as Thai Law clearly but narrowly defines it.

This is your opinion. in a promiscuous manner is not defined in the law nor has it been defined in Thai Courts. You cannot speak for the Thai Courts. But you can always give your lay opinion as a non-Thai Citizen, non-member of the Thai Bar.

Nobody needs to be tipped off by an informant and sit inside a McDs until someone's asks them if they want a hamburger to know immediately a block away that the building with those Golden Arches and the words "delicious cheeseburgers, 99 baht" on the window is a hamburgers sold in a promiscuous manner restaurant.

Once again this is your opinion. Filled with outrageous analogies that do not apply and a insane amount of hyperbole. There is no requirement that a prostitution establishment has to be clearly marked as you assert. Plain language of the law.

There is no mention in the reports that anyone was arrested and charged with running a "prostitution establishment", which has its own category of charges and penalties associated with it in the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996.

There is no mention that they were not charged with a violation of Section 6. You are reading a news report, not a police report, nor the charging document. You actually don't know for a fact what anyone was actually arrested and charged with in this particular case. You only know what you read in the article. You are the one always making the case that the news reports are incomplete. I can go through you previous posts, you have said this many times.

Of the very few arrests and charges mentioned in the reports, the only people who were arrested and charged with anything were 3 people in Windmill Bar who could only have been proprietors, managers and / or mamasans of the Bar. And charges were only left pending for anyone at the Soi 6 bar. There was no mention of prostitutes or customers of prostitutes being arrested and charged for any crime in those bars.

You are reading a news report, not a police report, nor the charging document. You actually don't know for a fact what anyone was actually arrested and charged with in this particular case. Your statement supports the idea that I have always proffered that there is selective enforcement of the laws in Thailand related to the issue of prostitution.

As you, I and anyone who has read the Section in the Act related to "prostitution establishments", the Law is that virtually anyone and everyone consorting, working in or patronizing a "prostitution establishment.

This is incorrect.

Lets review the law again:

Prostitution Establishment means the place or premises arranged for prostitution or allowed for prostitution, and shall include the place used for making contact or procuring another person for prostitution; .

as characterized by the Act's clear but narrow definition of prostitution in Thai Law is subject to being arrested, heavily fined and imprisoned.

Once again you are incorrect. If you actually have read the law there are very specific provisions in the law that create the violations related to prostitution. We goto the language of the law once again:

Section 5
Whoever, for the purpose of prostitution, offers, solicits, introduces oneself to, follows, or importunes another person on a street, in a public place, or any other place and such act is overtly and shamelessly committed or causes nuisance to the public, shall be punished with a fine not exceeding one thousand baht.

EihTooms considers 1000 THB as a heavy fine?

And there was no round up and arrests of any patrons or non-management staff in those bars for anything, much less for anything related to them patronizing or working in a "prostitution establishment" according to Thai Law.

You are reading a news report, not a police report, nor the charging document. You actually don't know for a fact what anyone was actually arrested and charged with in this particular case. Your statement supports the idea that I have always proffered that there is selective enforcement of the laws in Thailand related to this issue.

It's always possible I suppose. But all of the known characteristics of a WS bar and a Soi 6 bar as well as every detail of those linked reports argues very much against it.

It is possible. You know it. You don't have to suppose. I don't know for sure either. I have not read the police report or the charging document. News reports don't mean jack in the courtroom. Even in the podunk country you are from.

EihTooms has never seen the inside of a courtroom in his life except if it was for jury duty in his podunk country, in the podunk state, in the podunk county, in the podunk city where he is from. He has never cracked open a law book or a legal code. He has never analyzed the elements of a law then had to apply those elements to the facts of the case while writing a police report or explain them to a prosecutor who is charged with creating a charging document.

I have been in Windmill a few times and could see there were customers paying the ladies for "sexual gratification" activities like DATY right onstage, in full view of everyone in the bar and it being done as a matter of routine exchange of money for sex. The fact that we can only vaguely recall one time in the past when that place was closed down for being a "prostitution establishment" [u]but only for drifting into the part of Thai Law where the ST rooms on the premises could be construed as concrete evidence they were running a commercial prostitution[/b] in a promiscuous manner establishment

The Prosecution rests using the words of the defense!

https://mekongmigration.org/labourla...Act%201996.pdf