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In my sad homeland (the Bad Place) there are huge and burgeoning reserves of poors as well, but acceptable sex services are difficult and dangerous to find. The key difference is the openness or toleration of the business. It is this last factor - toleration - that democracy rings the death knell for.As I understand it the laws in the USA make prostitution illegal and the standard of living there makes it expensive. For the same price here for the time of your life you are looking at a low track needle user there. Certainly hooking up with the latter types is "dangerous" in a number of ways, as well as the perils of just being in her hood.
I'd suggest that in the USA it is religion and feminism that have little "toleration" for prostitution. While in LOS it is also illegal it is at the same time practicly legal, since Buddhists are not hung up on sex and TGs are normal women the way that the universe meant for them to be created.
"Prostitution in Thailand is illegal, although in practice it is tolerated and partly regulated. Prostitution is practiced openly throughout the country [1][2] Local officials with commercial interests in prostitution often protect the practice."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand
"In recent years, Thailand has become notorious for its sex trade. Although prostitution is technically illegal, 'Thailand's reputation as a hotspot for sex tourism has persisted"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Prostitution_in_Thailand
Now that the little sis is in charge as the first female PM of LOS I wonder if just for the appearances she might be thinking about tightening up rules for P4P. I know it probably won't effect anything in the long run, but do you think just to be proper PC, as a woman, she might come up with some crazy new rules and regulations!
It happens all over the world with new female presi, pm or mayor (they are the worst when they find themselves with new powers!) Even in UK we have some draconian laws push through in the last days of that bi*ch HH before she efed-off. Let's hope Thai male politicians stand firm. I suspect, just to keep with the image, she might try a few new tricks.
What do you think. ?
Obviously because his rule was a huge negative for our hobby. Why do you think we're all here?
Why should we care about the 'political problem'? (the problem is democracy, by the way) We fled here for sexual freedom: tolerated prostitution, which democracy took away from us back home.
Thailand isn't very poor anymore, alas for us, so we're only getting the dregs at the best of times, but the point about Thaksin was the concerted effort to close down and squeeze out the industry. Weren't you here during the 2001-2006 bad times? In 2005 I thought for sure it was all over. The Beach Road in Pattaya was completely empty for months on end, with only black-shirted troopers roaming. I was actually just about to give up and go home, when wonder of wonders, a coup the'état saved the us and the Ancien Régime! I can't tell you how happy I was, and how much I've enjoyed the last few years respite (which by the way has been better under dear Abhisit than under the other post-coup governments).
Now I predict another crackdown, perhaps the last one. Have any of you experience with South Korea? It once had an industry as burgeoning as Thailand's, and I'm sure in 1980 or even 1990 people would have scoffed at predictions of its demise, but it is gone now. Killed by democracy and 'prosperity'.Admittedly I wasn't in LOS from 2001-2006, although I was a member here since 2005 and seriously considered visiting the Kingdom then. I think the deciding factor on me not flying over at that time were the photos of allegedly hot TGs in the photo section. By 2007, when I first visited, I had realized such pics were not a true representaion of what was available here. But, apart from that, in reading the forum back in 2005, I didn't get the impression that Thaksin had put an end to cheap and easy pussy in LOS.
Surely there's more to the pooning life in Siam than just the Beach road in Pattaya. Were all the bars and MPs shut down too? Any guy with phone numbers of SWs he had collected on previous visits should have still been in business, but perhaps you lost your "little black book"? Even now 6 years later, the BIB have been raiding the BKK Nana street girls like never before, yet that scene just gets better.
If democracy is the problem, then would a country like Canada have legalized prostitution? Or the Netherlands have state sanctioned brothels? OTOH how much copulating have sex tourists been enjoying in anti-democratic North Korea lately? Although it seems that most US states have chosen to make life difficult for guys looking to get some ass, I'd suggest the real cause is another, usually black, book dating back to King James.
"Prostitution (Prostitutie) in the Netherlands is legal and regulated. Operating a brothel is also legal. In the last few years, a significant number of brothels and "windows" have been closed because of suspected criminal activity. De Wallen, the largest and best-known red-light district in Amsterdam, is a destination for international sex tourism."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_Netherlands
"In Canada, the buying and selling of sexual services are not illegal, but most surrounding activities, such as public communication for the purpose of prostitution, brothels and procuring are outlawed.
"While the prohibition of the activities surrounding the sex trade makes it difficult to practice prostitution without breaking any law, the act of exchanging sex for money has never been illegal in Canada, a situation which has created and continues to create confusion and controversy."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Canada
"In the United States, each state has the power to decide whether or not prostitution is legal in that state or part of that state. In all but one USA state (Nevada) the buying and selling of sexual services is illegal and usually classified as a misdemeanor.
"Nevada allows licensed brothels, but only in some parts of the state, in rural counties"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_States
Amjeck,
I care about the Thai people. You should give it a try.
Giotto.
http://www.livingstones.co.thI have and was dissapointed.
I find it humorous how foreigners set up shop in LOS and then start to sympathize with the Thais. Thais don't give a shit about any of us, so why do foreigners care about politics for the Thai people and how it will better them? Expats especially get all wrapped up in it as if they are part of the society and start to believe that Thailand is theirs too. Thai politics is for the Thais and them only.
Why you dropping you're link in all your posts? Spam or marketing?
@Opebo: So you'd wish long-lasting poverty on a people just so you can keep getting pussy on the cheap? No good.I'm with you on this Opebo.
Keep in mind Thais hope the Burmese stay dirt poor as long as possible so they can use them for cheap labor and make them work in inhumane conditions.
This is Asia dude. There is nothing rosy and pretty about this place.
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I find it humorous how foreigners set up shop in LOS and then start to sympathize with the Thais. Thais don't give a shit about any of us, so why do foreigners care about politics for the Thai people and how it will better them? Expats especially get all wrapped up in it as if they are part of the society and start to believe that Thailand is theirs too. Thai politics is for the Thais and them only.Amjeck,
I basically agree. Sympathizing with the Thais is really difficult :) .
Nevertheless, if you live here and try to run a business you should at least understand the mechanisms of Thai politics. Though analyzing the political situation here is only an academic exercise. Still fun.
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Why you dropping you're link in all your posts? Spam or marketing?Don't know, don't also care much, I do this from time to time to remind the readers about the connection between the handle and the hotel. If you don't like it you are free to complain to Jackson and have me banned.
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
@Amjeck: My experience with Asia and Asians (including Thais) has been quite rosy so far, after a decade here. I'm afraid you reap what you sow, and you sure are one angry and bitter fellow, unfortunately. Maybe an attitude change would help. I hope you can manage it someday.
I'm with you on this Opebo.
Keep in mind Thais hope the Burmese stay dirt poor as long as possible so they can use them for cheap labor and make them work in inhumane conditions.The fact somebody likes to treat somebody else as a sort of slave, doesn't mean the business module is legitimate and can be replicated based on the "somebody is doing it, I do it too".
I'm afraid you reap what you sow, and you sure are one angry and bitter fellow, unfortunately. Maybe an attitude change would help.It's funny how some people can interpret realism for anger. The truth is ugly sometimes.
Surely there's more to the pooning life in Siam than just the Beach road in Pattaya.For me not all that much. That's the one place that truly satisfies.
Any guy with phone numbers of SWs he had collected on previous visits should have still been in business, but perhaps you lost your "little black book"?No. If you had any experience with this type of girl you would know they lose their numbers one way or another very frequently. The chance of actually getting a girl on the phone again is very small.
The fact somebody likes to treat somebody else as a sort of slave, doesn't mean the business module is legitimate and can be replicated based on the "somebody is doing it, I do it too".Legitimacy? The most 'legitimate' - in terms of acceptance by populations and governments - ideology in the world today is the ideology of slavery.
For me not all that much. That's the one place that truly satisfies.If you are referring to the SWs there, I suppose it is somewhat the same for me with those in BKK, inasmuch as I seldom bother with bar, gogo or MP girls. {In fact I've never BF a lady even though I usually bring one or more to my room every night in around 700 days since 07}. Although if SWs were ever eliminated I'm sure the other options would still make it worthwhile to winter here. So what is it you find so irresistible about the Pattaya Beach road gals, that they are the key to your remaining in LOS or not, and your second best option is to return to the USA? For what, crack whor*s?
No. If you had any experience with this type of girl you would know they lose their numbers one way or another very frequently. The chance of actually getting a girl on the phone again is very small.I can't speak for Pattaya, since I've never been there or read much about the offerings on the Beach road. OTOH I have experience with SWs around NEP in BKK, and realize some change their numbers for various reasons {phone lost or stolen, stalkers, numbers expired, etc}. IME, though, on the present trip 5 out of 8 I tried to contact had retained the same numbers as they had before back in late 2009, early 2010. Many of these girls know each other, so I was also able to contact another one of the 8 through her friend. Other options would be {1} to share email addresses, {2} for her to have a hand written copy of your number in case she lost hers, and {3} to know the likely FL hangouts your SWs would go to if the BIB were cracking down on them. In BKK that would be places like the BG, Thermae, etc.
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"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.". Ronald Reagan
I want to thank all the ISG members who post photographs. I have purchased a digital camera. I will be visiting Thailand, Vietnam, and the PI in the months of October through April. I will try to be as creative as some of you are. Kaintuck, Buttlover, etc. Great work. I promise to try to avoid posing my ladies in the same position, and uploading 20 photos when posting 2 or 3 would have been sufficient. So, thank you again, gentlemen. My goal is that the better photo posters will enjoy my photos as much as I enjoy theirs! Again, Khop Khun Khop, Mahalo, Gracias, Motto Bene, etc!
Oh, you would like that. No. No banning for you. You are stuck here with the rest of us.
Amjeck,
Don't know, don't also care much, I do this from time to time to remind the readers about the connection between the handle and the hotel. If you don't like it you are free to complain to Jackson and have me banned.
Giotto.
http://www.livingstones.co.th
An amusing thing.
Wonder why the Thai Press are not reporting it? .
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/14/business/global/thai-princes-plane-impounded-in-germany.html
http://asiancorrespondent.com/59962/liquidator-seizes-royal-thai-air-force-plane-in-munich-an-update/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BangkokPundit+%28Bangkok+Pundit%29&utm_content=Twitter.
Suntangh R
07-14-11, 17:32
Amjek et al,
I think you have adopted an argumentatitive path and you are a senior and presumably a respected member. An expat in another country should adapt to that country is obvious. And the first step is understanding their way of life. You would'nt like an expat in your country looking down on you and behaving in a supercilious manner, and subjecting his neighbours to his native customs.
Giotto has done well for himself, his reports are informative; he is helpful too. No I have not stayed at his Lodge nor partaken his free booze.
We had scintillating posts by guys like OTH, Rabbit etc. Alas, things are not the same. Lets not make them worse.
An amusing thing.
Wonder why the Thai Press are not reporting it? .
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/14/business/global/thai-princes-plane-impounded-in-germany.html
http://asiancorrespondent.com/59962/liquidator-seizes-royal-thai-air-force-plane-in-munich-an-update/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed
%3A+BangkokPundit+%28Bangkok+Pundit%29&utm_content=Twitter.I had a good laugh when I read this. If course in Thailand they will not publish this. It may be classified as Lese Majeste to report such incidents.
The only question is who owns the plane. If the Thai government owns it it should be kept to enforce the payment.
If the Royal family owns it they have no measures to impound it.
May-be, these links should be removed.And why should they be removed?
I had a good laugh when I read this. If course in Thailand they will not publish this. It may be classified as Lese Majeste to report such incidents.
The only question is who owns the plane. If the Thai government owns it it should be kept to enforce the payment.
If the Royal family owns it they have no measures to impound it.It is registered in and operated by the Royal Thai Airforce as HS-CMV (Boeing 737. MSN 27906) (Ex 55-555)
Pretty much sure the plane papers should clarify the ownership.
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Wonder why the Thai Press are not reporting it? .The Thai press is reporting about the issue:
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2011/07/16/national/Kasit-seeks-a-meeting-with-German-deputy-FM-over-i-30160380.html
Giotto
Thinking of a BKK /Singapore travel in Nov.
Didn't find any of those "free air tickets" AirAsia sometimes have. But did come across Tigerairways sales ticket starting at 1, 100baht +700b fee=1800b one way.
Is this a good deal and book now and not take a chance prices will go up or should I wait a little longer to see if any AirAsia promos come up as I don't have to travel until Nov 5th. What do you think?
FZ
Which are currently the best ATMs (Banks) to use in BKK and Pattaya with the lowest fees (or NO fees) for withdrawing cash? Thanks
Which are currently the best ATMs (Banks) to use in BKK and Pattaya with the lowest fees (or NO fees) for withdrawing cash? ThanksFor various reasons to do with traceability, I never use ATMs in Thailand. I take a large bundle of cash and change into Baht when needed. By far the best exchange rate can be had with the moneychangers on Soi 3. There are a number of small offices in the street with a small 'money change' sign in the window, but no rates displayed. If you ask them the rate they will show you on a calculator. Some of them give a lower rate for small denomination notes (<£20) , but if so just go to the one next door for a better rate. I was getting 48. 4 whilst official bank booths were giving 47. 5 or worse.
For various reasons to do with traceability, I never use ATMs in Thailand.Yeah; being married while mongering in Thailand can be risky. Hahahaha!
Giotto has done well for himself, his reports are informative; he is helpful too. No I have not stayed at his Lodge nor partaken his free booze.I'm not advocating banning Giotto. He's the one who brought it up. I was only asking him a question.
Citibank at Asoke in BKK. Only location.
AEON ATMS in BKK / Pattaya but not widely available.
Which are currently the best ATMs (Banks) to use in BKK and Pattaya with the lowest fees (or NO fees) for withdrawing cash? Thanks
Yeah; being married while mongering in Thailand can be risky. Hahahaha!Thanks! I appreciate your understanding!
Thinking of a BKK / Singapore travel in Nov.
Didn't find any of those "free air tickets" AirAsia sometimes have. But did come across Tigerairways sales ticket starting at 1, 100baht +700b fee=1800b one way.
Is this a good deal and book now and not take a chance prices will go up or should I wait a little longer to see if any AirAsia promos come up as I don't have to travel until Nov 5th. What do you think?
FZActually Airasia is having a promo right now. Yesterday booked a ticket SIN-BKK for a friend of mine for over 100 euros total for mid October. But he should fly with me. Mine was about 50 euros 2 months ago.
I don't think you will find any cheaper. Watch out for the hidden costs eg luggage etc. Though.
How long can a person stay in Thailand as a tourist without having to leave the country? I know you can stay in Costa Rica for up to 90 days, but not sure about Thailand. I am hoping my next stay will be at least 60 days. What are the requirements for extended stays? Thanks for any help.
How long can a person stay in Thailand as a tourist without having to leave the country? I know you can stay in Costa Rica for up to 90 days, but not sure about Thailand. I am hoping my next stay will be at least 60 days. What are the requirements for extended stays? Thanks for any help.For a tourist from must Western countries getting a stamped visa on arrival at the airport it's 30 days.
AussieDoug
07-28-11, 12:01
How long can a person stay in Thailand as a tourist without having to leave the country? I know you can stay in Costa Rica for up to 90 days, but not sure about Thailand. I am hoping my next stay will be at least 60 days. What are the requirements for extended stays? Thanks for any help.No visa when you show up is 30 days, if you from western country. But if want stay longer get at least a double entry visa from a consulate abroad and then you have two sixty day stays, some consulates will do three at a time, but you have to walk over the border and back each time it expires, a bus trip to Cambodian border will do the trick.
For a tourist from must Western countries getting a stamped visa on arrival at the airport it's 30 days.Thanks for your response.
No visa when you show up is 30 days, if you from western country. But if want stay longer get at least a double entry visa from a consulate abroad and then you have two sixty day stays, some consulates will do three at a time, but you have to walk over the border and back each time it expires, a bus trip to Cambodian border will do the trick.Thanks for your response. I should have mentioned that I am from the US. I have follow up questions. Are there any special requirements to get the double entry visa? Also you mentioned to get it at a consulate abroad. Would I do that here in the US? Sorry for my ignorance, but never had to do this before.
My understanding was that one could get a 60-day visa and it is extendable by 30 days in country (go to immigration office at Chaeng Wattana if in BKK) , then you have to leave the country to get another 60-day visa, you wouldn't have to go back home, just to another ASEAN country. One could string together two of these to get 6 months in LOS. I think there was a limit of two of these per year or 12 months. This info is at least a year old so best verify through other sources.
My understanding was that one could get a 60-day visa and it is extendable by 30 days in country (go to immigration office at Chaeng Wattana if in BKK) , then you have to leave the country to get another 60-day visa, you wouldn't have to go back home, just to another ASEAN country. One could string together two of these to get 6 months in LOS. I think there was a limit of two of these per year or 12 months. This info is at least a year old so best verify through other sources.Thanks for your response. All the responses helped direct me in further research. I now have some phone numbers and addresses that I will pursue further.
Thanks for your response. All the responses helped direct me in further research. I now have some phone numbers and addresses that I will pursue further.The so called visa run can also take place at the Malaysian / Thailand border for instance if that is more convenient
How long can a person stay in Thailand as a tourist without having to leave the country? I know you can stay in Costa Rica for up to 90 days, but not sure about Thailand. I am hoping my next stay will be at least 60 days. What are the requirements for extended stays? Thanks for any help.Entering by land you get 13 days, by air 28. They say 30 days but includes arrival and departure days.
If you apply for a visa in a Thai consulate you can get a 60 day one (that can be extended in Thailand for another 30 days for 1. 000 BHT) That visa costs 30 euros in Europe.
Alternatively you can get a double entry one for 60 euros. That is two times the above but you have to leave the country and re-enter, even same day, upon completion of the first 90 days. I usually get an Airasia dot com ticket for a small tour in other countries around there.
In your case a simple 60 days visa is what you need.
My 2 Baht.
Citibank at Asoke in BKK. Only location.
AEON ATMS in BKK / Pattaya but not widely available.The MaxValu supermarkets that are springing up around Thailand are run by AEON, and some (not all) of them have AEON ATMs. The one on Thonglor 18 does.
Hopefully within 6 months most major cities will be 3G. At long last.
This is the thing I like about Thaksin governments, they just go ahead and get things done. The new airport would still be "planning" if TRT had never come to power, and hopefully within a year of PTP being in power the whole country will finally be 3G.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/telecom/249297/ais-goes-3g-in-spite-of-legal-jams
Bionicman and El Greco, thanks for responses.
Giotto has done well for himself, his reports are informative; he is helpful too.I concur.
What do you guys think is the best time to got to Thailand? I'm thinking about going in May of next year.
What do you guys think is the best time to got to Thailand? I'm thinking about going in May of next year.Best time for what?
If you mean the weather, google "weather in Thailand" and get the history.
But to me, any time is good.
What do you guys think is the best time to got to Thailand? I'm thinking about going in May of next year.The best time to come is as soon as possible, Bkgee, because the chance of things getting at least partially closed down loom very large over the next year or two, and probably even greater after that.
The best time to come is as soon as possible, Bkgee, because the chance of things getting at least partially closed down loom very large over the next year or two, and probably even greater after that.I am very afraid of that also. Planned another trip in Nov. We will see.
What do you guys think is the best time to got to Thailand? I'm thinking about going in May of next year.The time to come is now, like the other guys said, though not because YingLuck will legislate a "shut down" of TGs pussies. TGs believe in the freedom to spread so they can "take care" of the farang which means taking care of their mama, papa, little brother & flu sick water buffalo. So even the new PM is not going to put a closed sign on the holy of holies for my poly.
Now is the time because there are many pickings, at prices the same as in 2007, that are better than ever. The customer to girl ratio is in our favour unlike I've known before. We can thank airport closures, sieges of BKK, lack of Japanese clients, etc, for this happy turn of events. The erection demolition experts also must be motivated by their awareness of these things and the uncertain future re human ATMs travelling to the capitol & beyond.
At times the BIB have been cracking down hard on the NEP SWs in the last few months. Did this "shut down" the market? Hardly. The SWs just use their brains and pretend they're standing at the bus stop waiting for a bus, or they walk around and make eye contact with their business targets, etc. Even if the BIB station their men at every 10 feet around NEP, this isn't going to duct tape closed a TG's legs. Moreover such tactics would only make it even more of a buyers market than it already is, as would also be the case should the yellow vs red shirt nonsense explode again. So here's to hoping it does.
IMHO. I could be wrong.
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Ok now what hotels are good, I was looking at the Penthouse, and Dynasty Hotel.
Ok now what hotels are good, I was looking at the Penthouse, and Dynasty Hotel.Do you want us to find girls for you too?
Why don't you check the Pattaya Hotel section.
Hey!
How are you all BKK-lovers?
Do you know if high end hotels like Dusit Thani are girlfriendly?
I feel some curiosity for getting an Indian girl in BKK (out of thai girls, of course). Any recommendation? Is there any place where are there beautiful and hot Indian girls?
Thanks 4 help!
Do you want us to find girls for you too?
Why don't you check the Pattaya Hotel section.I did look! I was looking for your guys personal opions. Some of you guys take this forum so personal! I thought we were on here to share information!
I did look! I was looking for your guys personal opions. Some of you guys take this forum so personal! I thought we were on here to share information!OK, at least you have a sense of humor.
You asked such a broad question."What hotels are good". What are you looking for? : Pool, good food, location, quiet room, GF, cheap. 5 star. I can go on and on.
Be specific and maybe we can help you.
Hey!
How are you all BKK-lovers?No, it is 2x more expensive than Pattaya and I don't like the air.
OK, at least you have a sense of humor.
You asked such a broad question."What hotels are good". What are you looking for? : Pool, good food, location, quiet room, GF, cheap. 5 star. I can go on and on.
Be specific and maybe we can help you.Thank you sir, now we are talking. I respect your reply. I'm looking for location, action, GF, and good food $35-50. I found a lot of hotels with good prices. My problem is going here for the first time I don't want to pick something and it's to far from everything. This is why I ask you guys for help.
Hey!
How are you all BKK-lovers? . Is there any place where are there beautiful and hot Indian girls?
Thanks 4 help!Yes, the hot Indian girls all hang out at the New India Hotel on Suk Soi 96. And the not so hot ones are in Pattaya.
Thank you sir, now we are talking. I respect your reply. I'm looking for location, action, GF, and good food $35-50. I found a lot of hotels with good prices. My problem is going here for the first time I don't want to pick something and it's to far from everything. This is why I ask you guys for help.Http://www.wgfriendly.com/search_girl_friendly_hotels.php?country=Thailand&city=Pattaya
This is a good GF list. It is not all of them, but some decent ones. Pull up a map of Pats. I usually go to Agoda, pull one of the hotels, and populate the map with all hotels to find their location.
I don't like Walking Street, but as a first timer, you may want something close to it.
Some of the more popular GF hotels are:
Areca Lodge.
Haven.
Flipper Lodge.
Eastiny.
Sunshine Apts.
New Dynasty.
Tim's Boutique.
The LK chain is good, but a little pricier.
LK Royal.
LK Metropole.
LK Renaissance (I always stay here)
You will find action within walking distance of any of these hotels.
Some suggest to book a night or two at a place, then after you get there and check things out, go to another hotel if you wish.
A little bit of info for the blokes looking for Indian girls in LOS.
1. Indian girls don't come to BKK for the sex trade. They make tons more money (10-50 times) what they would make in LOS. That is because there a lot of young rich guys who are paying good money for these hot Indian chicks. And believe me they make more in a few days than I could make in a month.
2. Indians are very conscious about their place in society. The local Indian population would not like it if they were identified as sex workers. There is too much shame. There many Indians looking for a cheap one here in LOS and the girls don't want to be recognized as such. However, if you come across a group of Indian tourist girls, you may get lucky.
3. If you want the bottom of the heap, look to places like Hong Kong, where they are sitting outside hotels. They are brought there by their pimps. It seems Hong Kong has a much more lenient visa policy, as I see Filipinos, Thais etc. Also doing the trade there.
So, if you want HOT Indian girls you are very unlikely to find any in LOS as they are making tons of money in India itself. If you want the bottom of the heap, there may be a chance. So please stop keep asking for them. And by chance that you come by them let us know, so I can update my data base.
A little bit of info for the blokes looking for Indian girls in LOS.
1. Indian girls don't come to BKK for the sex trade.I've seen tons of TGs in BKK who could double for Indian or, for that matter, Loas or Chinese or Japanese or Vietnamese, etc, etc, etc, girls. In other words, when I see these TGs I see quite a lot of resemblance to what I've seen of females elsewhere. So even if I knew there were Indian born erection demolition experts in LOS, I doubt that I'd have any desire for them anyway. In fact this is the first time I've ever seen any interest in finding such in Thailand after years of reading online sex sites like ISG. European or Russian babes, on the other hand, is another matter, does get my attention and that of other posters on a regular basis. After all, they are not practicly clones of what is born here and in abundance. So it seems to me that the look of some Thai women, and the Thai culture also BTW, has a lot of similarities to those of India. JMO. I could be wrong.
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I've seen tons of TGs in BKK who could double for Indian. So it seems to me that the look of some Thai women, and the Thai culture also BTW, has a lot of similarities to those of India. JMO. I could be wrongYou are absolutely right. Many South American and Spanish women look very much like Indian and vice versa. However, I did come across a half Indian in Pattaya many years ago. Apparently she was the product of a Indian mongerer and a Thai WG.
Hotman 666
08-15-11, 15:55
I've seen tons of TGs in BKK who could double for Indian or, for that matter, Loas or Chinese or Japanese or Vietnamese, etc, etc, etc, girls. In other words, when I see these TGs I see quite a lot of resemblance to what I've seen of females elsewhere. So even if I knew there were Indian born erection demolition experts in LOS, I doubt that I'd have any desire for them anyway.Over the years I have had the pleasure of having several Half Thai / Half Indian (and Half Thai / Half Pakistani) girls as playmates in LOS! I rather like that look!
If you stop to think about it there are many Indians living in Thailand, some for many years, and (nowdays) quite a lot of Indian visitors. So it is not 'so' unusual to expect to find this, often rather beautiful, mix.
The ones I have known have told me that 'Moma from Thai. Pappa from India! ' Several have had Indian rather than Thai 'given names. '
A couple of years ago there were a pair of Half Thai / Half Pakistani sisters working in one of the Pattaya go-go's. VERY nice indeed! However I have not seen them around during my last few trips.
In my experience there is not one 'special place' for these girls but it IS possible to find all sorts of ethnic mixes in Thailand.
I can remember a Thai / Scandinavian, a Thai / German, a Thai / Black American (WOW, she was HOT!) and several Thai / Chinese girls that I have been with over the years.
Just get out there and look. You may not find EXACTLY what you are looking for but I would be rather surprised if you are unable to find 'something' acceptable.
ENJOY.
(I do!)
Hotman.
Over the years I have had the pleasure of having several Half Thai / Half Indian (and Half Thai / Half Pakistani) girls as playmates in LOS! I rather like that look!
I can remember a Thai / Scandinavian, a Thai / German, a Thai / Black American (WOW, she was HOT!) and several Thai / Chinese girls that I have been with over the years.
Just get out there and look. You may not find EXACTLY what you are looking for but I would be rather surprised if you are unable to find 'something' acceptable.
ENJOY.
(I do!)
Hotman.The objective was to have a totally Indian girl. Of course, in a mongering center one can likely to find half and halfs.
Member #2041
08-17-11, 19:34
.......the hottest, most emminently fuckable head of state on the planet?
.the hottest, most emminently fuckable head of state on the planet?She may be the only one left in Thailand after she gets rid of the mongering places we visit.
Member #4491
08-17-11, 23:20
Pardon me guys, for straying from the path of punani but I need advice one one of the essential conditions in life; weather. I naturally looked at about one hundred weather forecast sites and they all state various amounts of rain and thunder over BKK and the east where I plan (ed) to head. Is is super rainy now? Wet as hell or just the drizzles that us northerners consider an entertaining distraction on one of the four sunny days we get in a year? Would transportation be disrupted in / around BKK or down towards trad and the islands? Many dead in floods in my dear Philippines and I do not wish to fly in to a water or thunder inferno, even of micro format.
If I decide to fly, I will be traveling with non mongering persons who will not be happy campers if it is all rain and not even a crack in the clouds. This would be just like home. I know, no one here can predict the future but any form of assessment of the current status in BKK and the east around Trad, together with a qualified guessing, would be gratefully welcomed. Partially cloudy and windy to some extend is beach weather IMHO, but black clouds, rain and thunder during most parts of the day will just be a waste of time and money.
Regards,
Barba
LittleBigMan
08-18-11, 02:05
.the hottest, most emminently fuckable head of state on the planet?If I was Thai and able to vote, I certainly wouldn't need the bribe or care about the political issues regarding her. When she was on the tube the other day wearing that white military uniform and speaking to the queen all I was thinking was what color is her bra and panty? I was thinking Victoria Secrets black?
LBM
LittleBigMan
08-18-11, 02:09
She may be the only one left in Thailand after she gets rid of the mongering places we visit.Sorry Luvpuss, this isn't going to happen in a million plus year. She and her brother has learn from the first time and the first thing she did was show respect for the Royal family which in my opinion her brother never did? Maybe it was just photo op but did you see how happy the Queen was? In fact I wouldn't be surprise if she is now officially has become the PM A. K. A. Big Mamasan.
LBM
Sorry Luvpuss, this isn't going to happen in a million plus year. She and her brother has learn from the first time and the first thing she did was show respect for the Royal family which in my opinion her brother never did? Maybe it was just photo op but did you see how happy the Queen was? In fact I wouldn't be surprise if she is now officially has become the PM A. K. A. Big Mamasan.
LBMHope you are right.
The missing red shirts now found?
http://asiancorrespondent.com/62825/mass-grave-site-found-in-thailand/
Interesting what will happen with this story and any ramifications.
She may be the only one left in Thailand after she gets rid of the mongering places we visit.Precisely, Luvpuss. There will still be sexy ladies in Thailand, but once the venues are eliminated and the streetwalkers are rounded up, you'll be able to look only.
Member #4491
08-20-11, 11:38
Then she is up for a challenge.
A 1974 study put the number of prostitutes at 500, 000 to 700, 000. A 2004 estimate by Dr. Nitet Tinnakul from Chulalongkorn University gives a total of 2. 8 million sex workers, including 2 million women. 20, 000 adult males and 800, 000 minors under the age of 18. One estimate published in 2003 placed the trade at US$ 4. 3 billion per year or about three percent of the Thai economy. It has been suggested for example that there may be as many as 10, 000 prostitutes on Koh Samui alone, an island resort destination not usually associated with prostitution, and that at least 10% of tourist dollars may be spent on the sex trade.https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand
Barba
Dear members,
I'm trying to find some reports about "Star of Light" but the search-function can't help me very well.
Can anyone help me with finding some reports, maybe some usernames or other tips?
Thank you very much for your help.
Gr. Rick666
Harry Dude
08-21-11, 08:32
Dear members,
I'm trying to find some reports about "Star of Light" but the search-function can't help me very well.
Can anyone help me with finding some reports, maybe some usernames or other tips?
Thank you very much for your help.
Gr. Rick666Star of Light is mentioned in hundreds of reports. When searching, add the quotation marks: If you search for Star of Light, you get a lot of hits on posts containing the word Star. If you search for "Star of Light", you seem to get more relevant results:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2183-Photo-Gallery&p=1183338#post1183338
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1181198#post1181198
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1180934#post1180934
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2183-Photo-Gallery&p=1152324#post1152324
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2183-Photo-Gallery&p=1152290#post1152290
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1140983#post1140983
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1139001#post1139001
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1138987#post1138987
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1136427#post1136427
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1135678#post1135678
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1120314#post1120314
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1118381#post1118381
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1117979#post1117979
Somebody here mentioned that Koh Samui, according to some study, has 10000 sex workers. The official population of the rock is 55000. That means 20% of the population (including men, old, infants) is the sex trade of their bodies. Assuming an approx 50% of the population is female (including old and babies) .40% of women sell their bodies for money. I don't want to do further math but this shows how irrational are certain statements.
Or these 10, 000 WG are all coming from mainland. Very true lots are coming from Isan. But still I find very hard (no pun intended) to count 10000 girls available fir sex on the island. I know a go-go bar in Chaweng (the main centre, together with Lamai) employing averagely some 40 girls. And it is a large one. I can't see where the remaining 9960 are.
I think, at the best, there are 1000 girls on the market, not 10, 000.
somebody here mentioned that koh samui, according to some study, has 10000 sex workers. the official population of the rock is 55000. that means 20% of the population (including men, old, infants) is the sex trade of their bodies. assuming an approx 50% of the population is female (including old and babies).40% of women sell their bodies for money. i don't want to do further math but this shows how irrational are certain statements.
or these 10, 000 wg are all coming from mainland. very true lots are coming from isan. but still i find very hard (no pun intended) to count 10000 girls available fir sex on the island. i know a go-go bar in chaweng (the main centre, together with lamai) employing averagely some 40 girls. and it is a large one. i can't see where the remaining 9960 are.
i think, at the best, there are 1000 girls on the market, not 10, 000.statistic is a pretty funny thing.
common standard of a single community is made up approximately 60% of working age. out of that. 50% are women. 30% of total then. so, wl age, from 18 to mid 30s, we just assume even distribution, a third, which is 10. that totals only 5500. since you said 40% as the standard of your pick, we are left with 2200 people.
jakarta, a city with approximately ten million traffic daily is actually filled with 2 million registered people. the rest came from surrounding areas in the morning and came back in the evening or the whole weekday and weekend. this is a picture example of specialized workforce that comes to a certain areas where there are business, despite not from there. like a gold rush. everyone from everywhere runs to the gold. the population swelled but the official population count never increases, because census is usually counted from where you are from, not where you are now. it might be different with social studies though. we add the movement across province plus leeway for ladyboys and ****, the numbers will be at least double from 2200. not yet there.
i am no statistician, but i would say it is not beyond rational. it is common for statistical reports to be too simplified so people only need to read the intended statistics. in fact i would say that they never got the whole picture. with statistical input, there is always more, never less. some illegals never got into census register. but they are there. the same with probably more people in the pleasure industry that never want to step into the spotlight. hope this entertain readers.
Statistic is a pretty funny thing.
Hope this entertain readers.I agree. My point was mainly: both the figure (10, 000) and the percentage (20% on the WHOLE island population) seem unrealistic.
I do agree a lot of these girls (especially them) escape from the official counts as they commute. But whilst they can commute on the big cities from the peripherial towns and suburbs, whilst a lot population is not recorded, here we talk about a tiny island.
I cannot dispute the other figures given in that report. 2 millions etc. Can well be and spreading them around a whole country population (albeit they certainy concentrate in main areas) can have a degree of credibility.
Being a KS regular I do have my doubts, then. Be then % or numbers.
Member #2041
08-21-11, 20:55
I have often heard the statement that Pattaya has 10-20K sex workers. That statistic I believe, and actually it might be on the low side. But I also believe that Pattaya has at least 10 times as many sex workers as Koh Samui does.
Somebody here mentioned that Koh Samui, according to some study, has 10000 sex workers. The official population of the rock is 55000. That means 20% of the population (including men, old, infants) is the sex trade of their bodies. Assuming an approx 50% of the population is female (including old and babies).40% of women sell their bodies for money. I don't want to do further math but this shows how irrational are certain statements.
Or these 10, 000 WG are all coming from mainland. Very true lots are coming from Isan. But still I find very hard (no pun intended) to count 10000 girls available fir sex on the island. I know a go-go bar in Chaweng (the main centre, together with Lamai) employing averagely some 40 girls. And it is a large one. I can't see where the remaining 9960 are.
I think, at the best, there are 1000 girls on the market, not 10, 000.I am sure it depends on the season. I was there last month. I guess if you add the FL's, bar girls, escorts and the greatest number (massage girls) there are between 1000-1500.
Also, I would say Pattaya has closer to 10k.
It is an interesting topic, but on the big picture it really doesn't matter to me. There always seems to be plenty of girls for me to bang and that is all I care about.
It is an interesting topic, but on the big picture it really doesn't matter to me. There always seems to be plenty of girls for me to bang and that is all I care about.LOL.
In a single trip I think an availaibility of 100 gives lots of choices.
Member #4491
08-24-11, 01:44
The 10k was a quote from Wikipedia. Personally I do not have a clue if it is 10 or 10 000 000. At lest not for a few more hours.
Barba waiting for a plane.
Somebody here mentioned that Koh Samui, according to some study, has 10000 sex workers. The official population of the rock is 55000. That means 20% of the population (including men, old, infants) is the sex trade of their bodies. Assuming an approx 50% of the population is female (including old and babies).40% of women sell their bodies for money. I don't want to do further math but this shows how irrational are certain statements.
Or these 10, 000 WG are all coming from mainland. Very true lots are coming from Isan. But still I find very hard (no pun intended) to count 10000 girls available fir sex on the island. I know a go-go bar in Chaweng (the main centre, together with Lamai) employing averagely some 40 girls. And it is a large one. I can't see where the remaining 9960 are.
I think, at the best, there are 1000 girls on the market, not 10, 000.A statistic that would be more interesting would be how many Massage Joints and how many bars selling sex. These would be a lot easier to count.
Probably 10,000 girls that ever worked Koh Samui in the last 20 years.
My mate was staying in City Lodge Sukhumwit Soi 19. We wanted a convenient lunch so went to Tops food court below the Robinson.
Cheap eats but can't get a decent coffee or anything good to drink other than water. Fruit drinks are crap. Why is that? Simple. The drinks are loaded up with sugar syrup and ice.
Could have eaten at Yong Lee on corner of Soi 15, but noisy, dirty, grumpy staff, overly greasy duck, and its too hot.
On way out he had to collect his laundry at the little laundry opposite Friends Massage & Barber (the young girl there has nice tits). We wanted a coffee so happened to notice this little boutique coffee shop called Chez Charlie next to Laundry and directly opposite Friends. I went in with a slight feeling of trepidation. The last boutique coffee shop I went into with a girl, in Prom Phong, served me a crap coffee and her a crap tea.
Chez Charlie gave us a choice of beans according to strength, acidity and bitterness that we liked. I wanted one with a bit more oomf. They use one shot packs to ensure freshness. Super good taste. The owner likes proper Espresso with no milk! I saw they sell fruit juice and vegetable juice blends. Everything there is high quality organic produce. No artificial or fake ingredients. No MSG. Even the icecreams and sorbets are organic. I tried a chocolate lava dessert with my coffee. Rich but stupendous and not too big.
I have since tried many things there. Savoury crepes, all naturally cooked beef stew, french onion soup, panna cotta with unsweetened (or slightly sweetened) passion fruit topping, banana smoothie. The banana smoothie was thick but not too much. Good taste due to very low ice, some ice cream and yogourt and chilled glass. Best smothie I ever had in Thailand (no risk).
Place is spotless, service fast, and quality in everything they do. Cannot be as cheap as the food court but prices are very reasonable. Small but has upstairs too. Only been opened a short time. Young high class girls seem to come into this place to get a coffee or light meal! This makes the surroundings very pleasant. This place is definitely at odds with the general chaos of Soi 19.
I always stay around the corner from the Family Mart on that sub soi. Always take the laundry into the same place you did. She does have a great body and is very interesting. Last time there (June) the place where Chez Charlie is now was being gutted out. Use to be a farang owned music joint. Ill concieved and died quickly. Will have to take in Chez Charlie. Thanks for the post.
On way out he had to collect his laundry at the little laundry opposite Friends Massage & Barber (the young girl there has nice tits). We wanted a coffee so happened to notice this little boutique coffee shop called Chez Charlie next to Laundry and directly opposite Friends. I went in with a slight feeling of trepidation. The last boutique coffee shop I went into with a girl, in Prom Phong, served me a crap coffee and her a crap tea.
Chez Charlie snipped / snipped.
Place is spotless, service fast, and quality in everything they do. Cannot be as cheap as the food court but prices are very reasonable. Small but has upstairs too. Only been opened a short time. Young high class girls seem to come into this place to get a coffee or light meal! This makes the surroundings very pleasant. This place is definitely at odds with the general chaos of Soi 19.
Hi,
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but nevermind.
The last time I travelled to Thailand the airport link of the Skytrain had not been finished (three years ago).
I've just looked at the 'Seat 61' rail website and it looks like the rail link from Suvarnabhumi was completed last year in August.
Would it be possible to update the Suvarnabhumi Airport Transportation Fact Sheet to include this new material. I found that the old material was priceless and very accurate when I travelled to Pattaya using Bells bus service. I'm looking to travel to Thailand in November and wondered if the travel information could be updated by then and the posting altered.
Cheers.
Expatcat
Can anyone tell me if the Ava Pub on Soi 11 is still open for business? I have a friend travelling to BKK on business and I want to give him a recommendation or two for places to go.
I've had a good evening or two in the past at this place.
Thanks in advance.
Styk.
Hi,
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but nevermind.
The last time I travelled to Thailand the airport link of the Skytrain had not been finished (three years ago).
I've just looked at the 'Seat 61' rail website and it looks like the rail link from Suvarnabhumi was completed last year in August.
Would it be possible to update the Suvarnabhumi Airport Transportation Fact Sheet to include this new material. I found that the old material was priceless and very accurate when I travelled to Pattaya using Bells bus service. I'm looking to travel to Thailand in November and wondered if the travel information could be updated by then and the posting altered.
Cheers.
ExpatcatIts not recommended to use the Airport link when arriving unless have very low luggage or it takes you exactly where you want to end-up. Mostly taxi is better.
Could be okay for going to the airport, again if you are really close to the station, or can get there very easily and quickly.
Google Maps shows the SARL Stations (Sawanaphum Airport rail Link) Makkasan SARL, Ratchaprarop, Phaya Thai. The locations are generally not that convenient, even to BTS and MRT connections, if carrying suitcases.
Fast Eddie 48
08-28-11, 09:51
Expatcat,
It been running for over 16 month I first ride it on 2009 they offer free limited test run for 3 month, I take it last week arrive at the ariport at 9. 30pm.
Express go to Makasan station 90 bht non stop take only 18 min and take taxi to Suhumvit soi 13 cost 70 bht or non express 45 bht go to Phaythai station and connect with BTS take 30 min about 7 stop, not many foreigner take the train still better to take taxi ifyou have alot of luggage.
Fast Eddie 48.
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but nevermind.
The last time I travelled to Thailand the airport link of the Skytrain had not been finished (three years ago).
I've just looked at the 'Seat 61' rail website and it looks like the rail link from Suvarnabhumi was completed last year in August.
Would it be possible to update the Suvarnabhumi Airport Transportation Fact Sheet to include this new material. I found that the old material was priceless and very accurate when I travelled to Pattaya using Bells bus service. I'm looking to travel to Thailand in November and wondered if the travel information could be updated by then and the posting altered.
Cheers,
Expatcat[/QUOTE]
Can anyone tell me if the Ava Pub on Soi 11 is still open for business? I have a friend travelling to BKK on business and I want to give him a recommendation or two for places to go.
I've had a good evening or two in the past at this place.
Thanks in advance.
Styk.I was there 6 weeks ago staying at the Pres. Palace. That bar was open at that time. I don't beleive it opened until later (5pm).
Cheers Syzygies and Fast Eddie 48 for the updated information.
If I don't have any luggage, I'll try the Skytrain. If I do, the cab.
Cheers.
Expatcat
Just booked my first trip to heaven. Should I use a fast track service to get through immigration and customs or is it a waste of money.
Just booked my first trip to heaven. Should I use a fast track service to get through immigration and customs or is it a waste of money.Are you talking about immigration and customs in BKK? Or back in the USA? There are plenty of booths open at the new and improved airport in BKK, so it should not have much of a wait whatsoever. What takes longer, is for your bag to show up. Once you have your bag, customs is cake.
LittleBigMan
08-29-11, 07:59
Are you talking about immigration and customs in BKK? Or back in the USA? There are plenty of booths open at the new and improved airport in BKK, so it should not have much of a wait whatsoever. What takes longer, is for your bag to show up. Once you have your bag, customs is cake.Tomjackin,
This is not true during the period between 11am and 12am in Bangkok, Although there are plenty of booth they aren't man whatsoever. I normally use Eva Air and arrive at 11:10 am or so, I don't know what happen in the last year but it has also been reported in many of the local English paper the last year regarding the long lines in Immigration arriving and departing.
I can confirm when arriving in Feb. Once out of the aircraft I like always pretty much fly to immigration to find that the lines have back up to the end of the ramp. In all the years coming I have never experience anything like this. I jocky up the ramp and see if I can find a shorter line which I did but not much shorter. Don't assume when you see passenger on the ramp that all lines are full. Passenger are confused and just stand around instead of moving or forcing themselves up the ramp to enter into other lines. By the time I got through immigration to get my bags it was over a hour! My bags were gone they had taken them away and put them in some corner to make room for other flights.
When I came back in mid July same thing, got to immigration this time it was backup to the top of the ramp and all open booths were full. Again I was watching which line were moving faster, who were in line, I try to stay out of lines that I feel have tour groups, families and especially Mideasterner (sorry) but lots of Chinese groups from China. I was in a line closes to where the Thai locals use and it was empty. With a few immigration walking around and looking at the situation then I notice these agents were picking out the Chinese tour groups and moving them to the empty Thai locals booth. I and a few others notice this and try to tag along but got stop so back to our regular line. As always I normally catch the Bell bus leaving for Pattaya at 12 noon, both times I miss the bus because of having to wait 45 minutes or more to get out! This time I was lucky, Bell bus happen to have a van come by with some extra passengers to drop off from Pattaya, and was able to take a number of passengers who also miss the 12 noon bus back to Pattaya at 12:30pm.
I recently met a guy who also uses Eva and they have a service VIP, not exactly how much but I remember something like 2, 000 baht and it allows you to use the other booths. He also confirm when he got to immigration the the lines were back down the ramp and was glad that he paid the extra money. As a lowly coach passenger I don't remember this service being offer but this guy was traveling Business?
When the airport open it seem new and improve but lately I don't know what has happen? I have run through some of the flight schedules from other airlines and don't notice any unusual that more increase flights are coming in at this particular period maybe someone else has an answer for the long delays?
LBM
thanks for the input tomjackin and little big man. my flight comes in at 9:00 pm. i was just wondering how fast the lines move at that time of night. i have rtff about all of the mp, soapies and bj bars. how save is it to walk around by ones self after midnight. i was thinking of going to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s as my first stop to start thing off. should i only exchange a little bit of money at the airport and then more the next day at a bank?
how save is it to walk around by ones self after midnight. i was thinking of going to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s as my first stop to start thing off. should i only exchange a little bit of money at the airport and then more the next day at a bank?midnight sukhumvit road is still very busy. fairly safe. i have never been concerned. 4am it is still generally okay except that some people have had problems with ladyboys on certain almost vacant (of people) stretches. so just avoid the ladyboys standing by side of pavement. its possible they may try to pick pocket. don't allow yourself to be hugged by street by-standers. specially avoid gangs of ladyboys. i have never had a problem myself. perhaps i appear experienced.
[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is okay to start off if you are too tired for a full on session. bear in mind that these are not the prettiest girls in bangkok. i started my visit off with full on session at mango. now that is a real kick start.
i don't believe the exchange rates will vary that much between different proper exchange places. small diferences. so don't waste too much time of looking for the absolute best rate, is my suggestion. i know its important to some dudes to save a few extra baht but time can be the more important thing.
Tomjackin,
This is not true during the period between 11am and 12am in Bangkok, Although there are plenty of booth they aren't man whatsoever. I normally use Eva Air and arrive at 11:10 am or so, I don't know what happen in the last year but it has also been reported in many of the local English paper the last year regarding the long lines in Immigration arriving and departing.
I can confirm when arriving in Feb. Once out of the aircraft I like always pretty much fly to immigration to find that the lines have back up to the end of the ramp. In all the years coming I have never experience anything like this. I jocky up the ramp and see if I can find a shorter line which I did but not much shorter. Don't assume when you see passenger on the ramp that all lines are full. Passenger are confused and just stand around instead of moving or forcing themselves up the ramp to enter into other lines. By the time I got through immigration to get my bags it was over a hour! My bags were gone they had taken them away and put them in some corner to make room for other flights.
When I came back in mid July same thing, got to immigration this time it was backup to the top of the ramp and all open booths were full. Again I was watching which line were moving faster, who were in line, I try to stay out of lines that I feel have tour groups, families and especially Mideasterner (sorry) but lots of Chinese groups from China. I was in a line closes to where the Thai locals use and it was empty. With a few immigration walking around and looking at the situation then I notice these agents were picking out the Chinese tour groups and moving them to the empty Thai locals booth. I and a few others notice this and try to tag along but got stop so back to our regular line. As always I normally catch the Bell bus leaving for Pattaya at 12 noon, both times I miss the bus because of having to wait 45 minutes or more to get out! This time I was lucky, Bell bus happen to have a van come by with some extra passengers to drop off from Pattaya, and was able to take a number of passengers who also miss the 12 noon bus back to Pattaya at 12:30pm.
I recently met a guy who also uses Eva and they have a service VIP, not exactly how much but I remember something like 2, 000 baht and it allows you to use the other booths. He also confirm when he got to immigration the the lines were back down the ramp and was glad that he paid the extra money. As a lowly coach passenger I don't remember this service being offer but this guy was traveling Business?
When the airport open it seem new and improve but lately I don't know what has happen? I have run through some of the flight schedules from other airlines and don't notice any unusual that more increase flights are coming in at this particular period maybe someone else has an answer for the long delays?
LBMMy experience is much the same, although I recall most of the booths are manned with a man or woman. Long lineups are the norm, whether I've arrived in the late morning or early evenings. This includes trips this year in late March, May and July. And other trips every year since 2007.
It helps if you rush to immigration, fly business class or sit near the front of the plane {to get off before others}, & have your immigration form filled out {though this can be done while waiting in the lineup}. Typical lineup waits are around 30 minutes and I've never had my bags disappear or be "gone".
Based on my experience I'd avoid choosing lineups with certain Asian types, not mentioning any specific country, who have a bad rep in LOS for being cheap rude and stinky. They tend to usher their buddies and family members who were behind you in the lineup to a point ahead of you. Any experienced Siam mongers will know of what nation I speak.
how save is it to walk around by ones self after midnight. i was thinking of going to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s as my first stop to start thing off. should i only exchange a little bit of money at the airport and then more the next day at a bank?i think syzygies covered this well. personally i'd feel fairly safe to at least 2 or 3 am, at least in relatively highly populated places. although i've seen the late night crowd, with their altered state of minds due to various substances, exhibiting dangerous behaviours just like one might expect in similar situations around the world. beyond three or four in the morning i've found it mostly deserted out there.
thanks for the input tomjackin and little big man. my flight comes in at 9:00 pm. i was just wondering how fast the lines move at that time of night. i have rtff about all of the mp, soapies and bj bars. how save is it to walk around by ones self after midnight. i was thinking of going to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s as my first stop to start thing off. should i only exchange a little bit of money at the airport and then more the next day at a bank?i usually get in around 11pm and have never taken more than 30 minutes from the plane to the taxi stand, including exchanging some money and getting a sim card. but i have also considered taking the vip service just for the fun of it. if i ever were to travel to bkk with someone on their first trip i would definitely do it.
pogo
Are you talking about immigration and customs in BKK? Or back in the USA? There are plenty of booths open at the new and improved airport in BKK, so it should not have much of a wait whatsoever. What takes longer, is for your bag to show up. Once you have your bag, customs is cake.I agree. Sometime the walk from the plane to the immigration can be long but not more than 10/15' at the end. There will never be more than 6-7 people ahed of you at the immigration booth (es)
Incase you fly buysiness class keep your baording pass and you can go through the business class-priority lane booth.
Immigration is a piece of cake.
I would not spend the 30-40$ another guy plans to.
Not as a cheap charlie, but just as a waste of money.
On the other hand there is people enjoying to take a limo service booking it while waiting for the luggage, not at a chaeap price.
Each one his own.
Enjoy BKK
Lord Farquard
08-30-11, 23:47
I agree. Sometime the walk from the plane to the immigration can be long but not more than 10/15' at the end. There will never be more than 6-7 people ahed of you at the immigration booth (es)
Immigration is a piece of cake.I have flown into BKK 8 times this year, and only once were the lines less than 10. Most of the time they are 35 to 40 minutes long with as many as 50 folks in every line. If the lines are backed up to the windows you can count on a at least a 1/2 hour wait.
Thee Hammer
08-31-11, 02:08
My first trip to Pattaya last July. 6 hrs after I got there shut down for elections, the next week in BKK, shut down my last nite for buddah day.
Planning my next trip ot trips (grrrrr) , are there any other days I should be aware of? Is there somewhere I can look up these days such as elections and buddah days?
Lord Farquard
08-31-11, 03:40
My first trip to Pattaya last July. 6 hrs after I got there shut down for elections, the next week in BKK, shut down my last nite for buddah day.
Planning my next trip ot trips (grrrrr) , are there any other days I should be aware of? Is there somewhere I can look up these days such as elections and buddah days?If you would seach he forum you will find what you want.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2176-Thailand-Holidays
Public Holidays:
2011 2012
New Year's Day 1 Jan 1 Jan
Makha Bucha Day 18 Feb 7 Feb
Chakri Day 6 Apr 6 Apr
Songkran Festival 13 Apr. 15 Apr 13 Apr. 15 Apr
National Labour Day 1 May 1 May
Coronation Day 5 May 5 May
Visakha Bucha Day 17 May 4 Jun
Asahna Bucha Day 16 Jul 2 Aug
H. M. Queen's Birthday 12 Aug 12 Aug
Chulalongkorn Day 23 Oct 23 Oct
H. M. King's Birthday 5 Dec 5 Dec
Constitution Day 10 Dec 10 Dec
New Year's Eve 31 Dec 31 Dec
Elections will vary in each provience, so you are on your own. You will find that after y0u leave BKK or Pattaya that the closures will be more often, money speacks in the tourist area, it is up to the local police if they feel like enforcing any holiday.
My first trip to Pattaya last July. 6 hrs after I got there shut down for elections, the next week in BKK, shut down my last nite for buddah day.
Planning my next trip ot trips (grrrrr) , are there any other days I should be aware of? Is there somewhere I can look up these days such as elections and buddah days?Besides what Lordfarq posted, I would totally avoid The week before and after January 23. That is Chinese New Year. Everything is open, but the place is a fricken zoo with Asian families from all over the world coming to celebrate.
Just post this in the BKK thread but figure it might be better if I posted this here instead.
Anyone have a list of good but cheap traditional thai massages places (the ones without sex). Looking to relax with a few sessions on my next time in BKK. Massage places near a subway or train stations a plus.
Also what are the going rates these days for a thai massage and how much is an average tip afterwards.
Thanks
Mr Enternational
09-11-11, 06:48
Talks about how the new train service to / from BKK sux:
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/496840-suvarnabhumi-airport-rail-link-a-completely-inconvenient-means-of-travel/
LittleBigMan
09-11-11, 07:15
Just post this in the BKK thread but figure it might be better if I posted this here instead.
Anyone have a list of good but cheap traditional thai massages places (the ones without sex). Looking to relax with a few sessions on my next time in BKK. Massage places near a subway or train stations a plus.
Also what are the going rates these days for a thai massage and how much is an average tip afterwards.
ThanksI've used this place a number of times through another posted years ago. It is around the corner from Landmark Hotel on Soi 8, on the right hand side on the first side Soi, which is the location of Lotilas. I believe there are two on the corner one on each end, the one I use is across from the first one ( straight ahead not across left ) as you approach the Soi, Sorry can't remember the name? I believe the price was somethng like 200/250 baht per hour for Traditional massage I usually do a two hour and tip them 100 baht when I leave that is my rate and I have never been hit up for extra.
LBM
I was curious to know if anyone has flown Emirates from NYC to BKK with a layover in Dubai? If so did it break up the flight better than going through HK or Japan? Those are really long hauls to be on one plane.
Thanks.
Artisttyp
Member #4351
09-12-11, 19:03
Due to the dismal $US/Baht exchange rate and general increase in prices, IMHO BKK is not a budget mongering destination anymore.
Crocodilexp
09-12-11, 21:14
Due to the dismal $US/Baht exchange rate and general increase in prices, IMHO BKK is not a budget mongering destination anymore.Depends on what you mean by budget. If you want an Amsterdam-style quickie (ok looks, mechanical one-shot 30-min service in an ST hotel) , that can still be had in low-end Thai-oriented areas for 300-800 baht.
As for Farang-oriented bargirls who offer long-time, more-or-less GFE sessions... you just won't find them in many places outside of Thailand. Perhaps the Philippines, but that is a dump and has a comparably small scene. AC scene is 1/10 of Pattaya and Manila is less than 1/10 of Bangkok and not much cheaper, if at all.
You're correct that BKK scene deteriorated significantly over the last 5-10 years. The heyday is well and truly over. I remember a time when you could meet sweet 20-year old part-time freelancers from Chiang Mai down on lower Sukhumwit, and take them for a LT with no discussion on price (they were happy with 1000 baht in the morning). Now that zone is full of hardened, spent Thai hookers, along with African and Central Asian hags. Bars are more glitzy, but not much better.
Mr Enternational
09-12-11, 21:23
I was curious to know if anyone has flown Emirates from NYC to BKK with a layover in Dubai? If so did it break up the flight better than going through HK or Japan? Those are really long hauls to be on one plane.Whether going east or west from NYC you are looking at damn near the same total time. Keep in mind that it is generally faster going west to east (due to tail wind/head wind) so going through Dubai is an hour and a half shorter for the NYC DXB flight but coming back it will be longer. Whereas going through Tokyo it may take longer going than Dubai but it will be shorter coming back. Also I do not think there are any quick connections once you get to Dubai so you will have to wait a few hours versus Tokyo.
1a) Flights from New York, NY (all airports) to Dubai, United Arab Emirates (DXB)
Non-stop flights: 2 per day. 12h 45m duration.
Airlines: Emirates.
1b) Flights from Dubai, United Arab Emirates (DXB) to Bangkok, Thailand (BKK)
Non-stop flights: 5 per day. 6h 32m duration.
Airlines: Emirates, Thai.
2a) Flights from New York, NY (all airports) to Narita, Japan (NRT)
Non-stop flights: 3–4 per day. 14h 11m duration.
Airlines: JAL, ANA, Delta, Continental.
2b) Flights from Narita, Japan (NRT) to Bangkok, Thailand (BKK)
Non-stop flights: 8–9 per day. 6h 39m duration.
Airlines: Thai, ANA, JAL, and 2 more.
3) Flights from Narita, Japan (NRT) to New York, NY (all airports)
Non-stop flights: 3–4 per day. 12h 45m duration.
Airlines: ANA, JAL, Delta, Continental.
4) Flights from Dubai, United Arab Emirates (DXB) to New York, NY (all airports)
Non-stop flights: 2 per day. 13h 45m duration.
Airlines: Emirates
I was curious to know if anyone has flown Emirates from NYC to BKK with a layover in Dubai? If so did it break up the flight better than going through HK or Japan? Those are really long hauls to be on one plane. Thanks. ArtisttypShould you take a virtual private flight BKK-DXB-JFK, it will take some 21. 30hrs and 9899 miles.
Should you do the same via TYO it will be 9619 miles and nerly 21hrs, and via HKG account for just below 20hrs and 9121 miles.
Having said that, you really need to cross check the airlines timetable to see how much you spend in a layover in one of the connecting airports as arilines might have from 2 to more hrs connecting time. (you will anyhow change planes, whichever way you take.
On the other hand when you fly from Europe to Australia is not going to be mich more difference as "long stay on a plane".
I was curious to know if anyone has flown Emirates from NYC to BKK with a layover in Dubai? If so did it break up the flight better than going through HK or Japan? Those are really long hauls to be on one plane.
Thanks.
ArtisttypI always fly Emirates if I can, as the layover in DBX is first rate. The last 6 hours when flying direct I find really drags, so the layover in Dubai comes at just the right time!
Narita (Japan) is good for a layover, but inflight comfort depends of course on what airline! I have found US airlines and Air Canada to be pretty average at best.
With Emirates I find the service first rate, better than its Middle East rivals of Etihad (Abu Dabi) and Qatar (Doha) primarily because of the facilities at DBX.
Qatar is a pain because of the limited airport facilities. Etihad I would rate as second to Emirates.
If you get to frequent flyer status with Emirates, which actually doesn't take that long, you can avoid the queues and use business check-in and get automatic access.
to business class lounges at all departure points, and often get upgraded to business especially if the A380 is on the route, because they are used on the more popular
routes.
Also, if you have an Amex card you can gain access to the Marhaba business lounge at DBX even if you don't have the frequent flyer status.
(Apologies for the grammatical layout of this reply, I can't get it to post correctly!)
Member #4351
09-13-11, 00:48
Cathay Pacific through Hong Kong. Hong Kong airport is the best.
Due to the dismal $US/Baht exchange rate and general increase in prices, IMHO BKK is not a budget mongering destination anymore.OK, tell us 5 that are better in the overall experience for the money.
You could meet sweet 20-year old part-time freelancers from Chiang Mai down on lower Sukhumwit, and take them for a LT with no discussion on price (they were happy with 1000 baht in the morning). Now that zone is full of hardened, spent Thai hookers, along with African and Central Asian hags. Bars are more glitzy, but not much better.That is BS.
LittleBigMan
09-13-11, 05:19
That is BS.Are you taking into account " over the last 5/10yeear, The heyday is well and truthfully over, I remember " Part? He isn't talking about today.
LBM
I always fly Emirates if I can, as the layover in DBX is first rate. The last 6 hours when flying direct I find really drags, so the layover in Dubai comes at just the right time!That's what I was thinking. I prefer that split better than the 17 hr haul to HK. This is all theoretical to me since I don't know if I have the stamina to deal with it. I'd be flying coach and probably be bouncing off the walls. Even with pills.
I would have a budget of $40 a day for hotel and $100 a day for all the other expenses including PFP. The usual rations.
Thank you for responding.
If I may I would like to ask a general sort of question. I'm visiting for the 2nd time in December and am arranging to have a massage lady (cougar) come stay with me 2 nights. We are sort of friends more than trick and john. But she has asked that I compensate her for time off work. I have no problem doing that. But here's the question. How much would you pay? I have agreed to 500 bt per day for her boss. I was thinking 1000 for her per day.
Any thoughts?
Crocodilexp
09-13-11, 08:36
If I may I would like to ask a general sort of question. I'm visiting for the 2nd time in December and am arranging to have a massage lady (cougar) come stay with me 2 nights. We are sort of friends more than trick and john. But she has asked that I compensate her for time off work. I have no problem doing that. But here's the question. How much would you pay? I have agreed to 500 bt per day for her boss. I was thinking 1000 for her per day.
Any thoughts?If you're friends, what was the arrangement when you stayed together before?
You definitely DO NOT need to pay her boss, that's a scam. Middle-aged massage ladies are not exactly precious workers that the establishment depends on to draw business (like bars do). She can take unpaid time off, if she gets regular salary at all. More likely (90% likely) she just gets half of money for each massage she does, and zero for sitting around.
For a freelancer. 1000 baht / day is an acceptable going rate (although 500 is still probably more than what she earns at the massage shop. Unless she does extras). If you pay her less she'd be doing you a service. And you probably don't want a situation where you're still paying her, and she's also doing you a service (worst of both worlds).
I always fly Emirates if I can, as the layover in DBX is first rate. The last 6 hours when flying direct I find really drags, so the layover in Dubai comes at just the right time!
With Emirates I find the service first rate, better than its Middle East rivals of Etihad (Abu Dabi) and Qatar (Doha) primarily because of the facilities at DBX.
Qatar is a pain because of the limited airport facilities. Etihad I would rate as second to Emirates.Excellent. How about business or first on these 3 airlines?
Excellent. How about business or first on these 3 airlines?Never tried First or Business with Qatar or Etihad, but I guess they would be very good.
Of my last 6 flights with Emirates, four were upgraded to business! Cannot fault them!
Member #4351
09-13-11, 16:25
OK, tell us 5 that are better in the overall experience for the money.The previous poster, Artisttyp is a budget monger's monger. My post was in reference to his. But I will say that the Philippines is generally much cheaper than LOS with much more GFE. Since my budget mongering days are thankfully in the past, I'm really not too concerned and just pay the going rates wherever I am.
I fly from the states to Thailand, the Philippines and Jakarta with Cathay Pacific in business or first class (with miles). It is considered the best airline by many. I find it morally difficult to give any money to Emirates or any of the other Middle Eastern carriers.
[QUOTE=David_33; 1196802]The previous poster, Artisttyp is a budget monger's monger. QUOTE]
What a title. You are correct. However I'd like to add that I used to own Rimowa luggage (valued at $500 a piece) until some Aholes at the Lima Airport tried to break into it.
I also don't want to scare people into thinking I am a street urchin. Which I am not. I come from a good home!
I am on a fixed income and have time to travel and stay for extended periods. Again on a fixed income. Time is money as the saying goes is extremely relevant to me. The better the rates the longer I get to stay. That's why I am always looking for the deals or the extended stay places.
My budget has been the same for years now. There's not much I can do about it. $40 a day for room and $100 a day for expenses. It isn't the high life but I'm not dumpster diving either.
Member #4351
09-13-11, 16:56
[QUOTE=David_33; 1196802]$40 a day for room and $100 for expenses. It isn't the high life but I'm not dumpster diving either.IMHO, check EVA airways and concentrate on Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1196811]IMHO, check EVA airways and concentrate on Pattaya.Pattaya was always part of the program. I thought that was a given for any monger that travels to Thailand. Bangkok would be more of an exploration / photography / food adventure. I will investigate the SD area of the DR some more as well. It makes sense since it's so close to NYC.
If I may I would like to ask a general sort of question. I'm visiting for the 2nd time in December and am arranging to have a massage lady (cougar) come stay with me 2 nights. We are sort of friends more than trick and john. But she has asked that I compensate her for time off work. I have no problem doing that. But here's the question. How much would you pay? I have agreed to 500 bt per day for her boss. I was thinking 1000 for her per day.
Any thoughts?If you and the girl agree with the 1000B per day number, that's good enough. What everyone else think doesn't matter, it's your money and her time, enjoy it.
[QUOTE=David_33; 1196812]Pattaya was always part of the program. I thought that was a given for any monger that travels to Thailand. Bangkok would be more of an exploration / photography / food adventure. I will investigate the SD area of the DR some more as well. It makes sense since it's so close to NYC.So you are saying Bangkok is not a place for mongers? Just for Photography, exploration, and food?
I find it morally difficult to give any money to Emirates or any of the other Middle Eastern carriers.May I ask why?
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1196847]So you are saying Bangkok is not a place for mongers? Just for Photography, exploration, and food?I said this not david33. I was referring to whether or not mongering was an option for me in Bangkok on my budget. If it is not then I would need to move on over to Pattaya. This is IF I can't find anything for under $50.
Member #4351
09-13-11, 23:33
May I ask why?That should be obvious given last Sunday's date. I also resent the fact that I have to check my liquids and the time I waste waiting in airport security lines thanks to inhabitants of that part of the world. But no reason to get into politics on this thread.
Mr Enternational
09-14-11, 00:02
I was referring to whether or not mongering was an option for me in Bangkok on my budget. If it is not then I would need to move on over to Pattaya. This is IF I can't find anything for under $50.I would suggest coming to Pattaya for most of your stay then spending the last two days in Bangkok so you will be able to make some kind of first hand comparison. Since I am a Cheap Charlie I like bargain basement. A Nana car park girl once told me when I was trying to get her for less than 1000 baht ST,"This is not Pattaya." In Pattaya you can get freelance LT (I'm talking a whole day) for 1, 000 baht as often as you want. Now if you are a bar or gogo guy then that is a horse of a different color.
If you and the girl agree with the 1000B per day number, that's good enough. What everyone else think doesn't matter, it's your money and her time, enjoy it.Will do. Many thanks for the advice all. I have offered her that and she gladly accepted. It's quite a while off but I'm looking forward to this trip. Last time was only 4 days.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1196895]I said this not david33. I was referring to whether or not mongering was an option for me in Bangkok on my budget. If it is not then I would need to move on over to Pattaya. This is IF I can't find anything for under $50.Khao San Road, Bangkok should suit your budget.
I will investigate the SD area of the DR some more as well. It makes sense since it's so close to NYC.
You should because given your budget and your amount of available time, WITH STRONG SPANISH SKILLS, there is a lot of gold and even some diamonds to be mined in that country.
You should because given your budget and your amount of available time, WITH STRONG SPANISH SKILLS, there is a lot of gold and even some diamonds to be mined in that country.Thank you for your advice.
Member4917
09-14-11, 05:31
The previous poster, Artisttyp is a budget monger's monger. My post was in reference to his. But I will say that the Philippines is generally much cheaper than LOS with much more GFE. Since my budget mongering days are thankfully in the past, I'm really not too concerned and just pay the going rates wherever I am.
I fly from the states to Thailand, the Philippines and Jakarta with Cathay Pacific in business or first class (with miles). It is considered the best airline by many. I find it morally difficult to give any money to Emirates or any of the other Middle Eastern carriers.I agree with David_33. Why give money to people who hate us. I fly Cathay and they are always great.
I agree with David_33. Why give money to people who hate us. I fly Cathay and they are always great.Are you from US? Cathay Pacific likes you? They have a not so good relationship with the US Govt. Ever since they had to pay a $60 Mil fine a few years ago for Anti-trust violations. They probably are not your friend.
Wolvenvacht
09-14-11, 22:35
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1196921]Khao San Road, Bangkok should suit your budget.But you have to watch out. Many ho (s) tels near Khao san Road are not guest-friendly. Better check the hotel policy before you make a booking. My experience is that you better search for a hotel near Thanon Sukhumvit.
A quick search on.
http://www.booking.com
Found some hotels well below the 40 USD / day mark.
Are you from US? Cathay Pacific likes you? They have a not so good relationship with the US Govt. Ever since they had to pay a $60 Mil fine a few years ago for Anti-trust violations. They probably are not your friend.I would respectfully disagree. I fly Cathay a lot, both from the US and in region. They code share with American Airlines and offer far superior service. Lie flat beds in business. Full VOD in every seat with current American titles, Hong Kong cinema and new movies from across asia.
On US flag carriers, staffing is based on tenure. The best routes to fly are the trans oceanic as you can fulfill your entire monthly flight quotes in just a few days of work. Needless to say, only the oldest attendants work these flights. On non-US carriers, there are more younger attendants who provide nice "service". Ok, not that kind of service
My first trip to Pattaya last July. 6 hrs after I got there shut down for elections, the next week in BKK, shut down my last nite for buddah day.
Planning my next trip ot trips (grrrrr) , are there any other days I should be aware of? Is there somewhere I can look up these days such as elections and buddah days?A poster listed all the holidays in Thailand. But not every holiday is a dry one. It would be nice to have a accurate thread on all the days which is dry. Also, need to know which days are based on lunar calendar.
Last trip, I experienced and wrote about 3 dry holidays in Thailand (got unlucky) :
Makha Bucha in February: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2184-General-Reports&p=1124320&viewfull=1#post1124320
Buddist holiday in July or August for 2 days: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1048988&viewfull=1#post1048988
Dec 5; this was either because of the king's birthday or an election: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1100258&viewfull=1#post1100258
Khoa San Road does not have a good mongering scene. It does have cheap guesthouses for the monger on a budget; possible for get a room with A / C for $10; those type of rooms won't be on the internet. You can take local bus number 2 to get to Nana and Soi Cowboy.
$100 total per day is my budget, and you can monger in style, if you don't spend too many days in Bangkok or have too many lesbian sessions from the go-go bars. But things are getting more expensive; I might have to increase my budget, or spend more time in Laos.
Flying out of LA to Bangkok in economy, Cathay Pacific is a good option. Best option is Thai Airline; it has the most legroom out of all the airlines I've flown. But for the upcoming trip, I'm flying Cathay Pacific instead of Thai in order to save $500 (8 extra hours with less legroom, but I'm saving between 30 - 50 Phnom Penh BJs).
OK, tell us 5 that are better in the overall experience for the money.Although Bangkok has great looking girls, the congestion and price are too much for me.
List of 5 that are better in terms of overall experience in relations to cost:
1) Phnom Penh (less girls, but still the cheapest. Although many people don't like it, it is a better overall experience for the money than Bangkok, IMO)
2) Angeles (better value than Bangkok; nothing else around except the bars)
3) Subic Bay / Puerto Galera (better value with the beach)
4) Pattaya (still the best overall experience in relations to cost, IMO)
5) Saigon (a value only if you are experienced or well read)
Although Bangkok has great looking girls, the congestion and price are too much for me.
List of 5 that are better in terms of overall experience in relations to cost:
1) Phnom Penh (less girls, but still the cheapest. Although many people don't like it, it is a better overall experience for the money than Bangkok, IMO)
2) Angeles (better value than Bangkok; nothing else around except the bars)
3) Subic Bay / Puerto Galera (better value with the beach)
4) Pattaya (still the best overall experience in relations to cost, IMO)
5) Saigon (a value only if you are experienced or well read) Been to all of them and the only one that is close in my opinion is Pattaya. Again, for OVERALL mongering experience.
Also, if you stay in the right area and take the sky train to other spots, congestion is never an issue in BKK.
It seems like a lot of guys just want "the cheapest". Buy yourself a box of Skippy peanut butter and ship it with you to Africa. They will fuck you there for one jar of peanut butter. Chunky or smooth, it doesn't matter. Have yourself a blast!
It seems like a lot of guys just want "the cheapest". Buy yourself a box of Skippy peanut butter and ship it with you to Africa. They will fuck you there for one jar of peanut butter. Chunky or smooth, it doesn't matter. Have yourself a blast!A lot of people have limited resources and unlimited desire to fuck. Cost to get and stay at exotic destination is high and while you are there you want to make the most out of it. It makes huge difference if your pop is $30 or $100. I like to do 4-6 pops per day when mongering. If I can afford only one per day then it is just better to do it locally.
While in paradise temptation is high and you can easily go overboard. If cost is low you can indulge without thinking twice. Trips like that should be relaxing experiences that makes you feel elated when you get home and look forward to the next trip. Otherwise you can run wild and back home you feel stupid and remorseful that you spent beyond your means to pay for the addiction.
I would say that overwhelming majority of the people on this board fall into the category that I described and the key factor in their destination choice is the cost of women.
Crocodilexp
09-15-11, 19:30
Khao San Road does not have a good mongering scene.Not quite true. Khao San Road itself is not amazing for mongering (though loose ladies are far from absent). However, if you cross Ratchadamnoen Klang (the big road to the south) , there's a fairly large area full of hookers. See the boundaries at: http://g.co/maps/epscv. There are about 40-100 girls, asking rather low prices (300-800 ST + 100 for ST hotel). A number of girls don't look too bad (better than Sukhumwit freelancers) , but the area itself along with the hotels is rock-bottom and only for those with a strong stomach. Not my cup of tea, just throwing in 2 cents since we were discussing cheap Places.
Crocodilexp
09-15-11, 19:39
I would say that overwhelming majority of the people on this board fall into the category that I described and the key factor in their destination choice is the cost of women.
If cost is the main issue, then Frankfurt or Amsterdam win hands-down for most European mongers. Basic suck & fuck costs 30-50 euro in those places. If you count the airfare, Asia can't beat that. Still, I see plenty of Germans (and Dutch) in Thailand. When technical aspect of sex service is considered, a German FKK ends up a good value... but something is definitely missing.
For most guys, the main draw is a large, relaxed scene (can't beat the candy shop feel of Pattaya), having wide-open choice, instead of being confined to a zone with 50 girls serving 200 men per day. Equally important is the GFE and feeling of being in control rather than on the clock. With European hookers, there's no option of having them stay over for a few days. Even though I rarely take that option and limit myself to STs, just having it open is meaningful.
Not quite true. Khao San Road itself is not amazing for mongering (though loose ladies are far from absent). However, if you cross Ratchadamnoen Klang (the big road to the south) , there's a fairly large area full of hookers. See the boundaries at:
http://g.co/maps/epscv
There are about 40-100 girls, asking rather low prices (300-800 ST + 100 for ST hotel). A number of girls don't look too bad (better than Sukhumwit freelancers) , but the area itself along with the hotels is rock-bottom and only for those with a strong stomach. Not my cup of tea, just throwing in 2 cents since we were discussing cheap Places.Thanks for the info.
I've never explored that area south of Khao San Road. The Khao San scene (with its loose backpackers) has spread north and northwest of the road.
Any particular street the FLs hang out at?
I will try to explore that area the next time I'm around there.
For most guys, the main draw is a large, relaxed scene.
Equally important is the GFE and feeling of being in control rather than on the clock.I definitely agree. Although since I'm on a $100 a day budget, price is still very important to me.
I like the attitude of the girls. It's amazing that many of the girls are working there to support their families (either her parents or her baby or both). Although you have exceptions with hard core drug addicted girls, I find that to be the exception rather than the norm.
I've had horrible experiences in the US due to the attitude of the girls. I still remember that middle aged Korean girl in the Asian Massage Parlor saying "are you crazy!" when I asked for 20 minutes of BJ in a 30 minute session (which normally they will try to rush you out in 15-20 minutes).
$150 for a lousy effort with a Korean girl in an AMP, or $30 - $60 for a drug addicted SW in an unsafe area. Geez, I hate the P4P scene in the US.
A lot of people have limited resources and unlimited desire to fuck. Cost to get and stay at exotic destination is high and while you are there you want to make the most out of it. It makes huge difference if your pop is $30 or $100. I like to do 4-6 pops per day when mongering. If I can afford only one per day then it is just better to do it locally.
While in paradise temptation is high and you can easily go overboard. If cost is low you can indulge without thinking twice. Trips like that should be relaxing experiences that makes you feel elated when you get home and look forward to the next trip. Otherwise you can run wild and back home you feel stupid and remorseful that you spent beyond your means to pay for the addiction.
I would say that overwhelming majority of the people on this board fall into the category that I described and the key factor in their destination choice is the cost of women.This is me to the T. Lately I've been having second thoughts about how I monger but I like the constant travel. I'm good for 2 nuts a day. If I can't afford two then there has to be a lot to do to keep me busy. Otherwise I regret showing up. Recently I've become a foodie so places that offer good food at fair prices is just as pleasing to me as sex (sort of). I suggest every monger think of a hobby to do while mongering that doesn't include spending lots of money or sex.
I've come back from a few trips lately thinking " What did I blow 5k on?". This is to bang street walkers mind you.
At the moment there are VERY few places in latin america for example where a good deal is to be had. If you do find it then chances are you have to compromise in other ways like early nights (central america) or traffic jams (Lima). In some ways I just want to sit on my money for a while and let it grow for future "hopefully" better times. That's why I've been doing Tijuana trips more. Cheap easy to do food is good. I just don't get the off the wall sessions from girls like I would in someplace like Lima BUT I don't have nearly the same expenses either.
$100 is a lot of money for some people. Unfortunately it is worth a lot less these days.
Fast Eddie 48
09-19-11, 02:23
I definitely agree. Although since I'm on a $100 a day budget, price is still very important to me.
I like the attitude of the girls. It's amazing that many of the girls are working there to support their families (either her parents or her baby or both). Although you have exceptions with hard core drug addicted girls, I find that to be the exception rather than the norm.
I've had horrible experiences in the US due to the attitude of the girls. I still remember that middle aged Korean girl in the Asian Massage Parlor saying "are you crazy!" when I asked for 20 minutes of BJ in a 30 minute session (which normally they will try to rush you out in 15-20 minutes).
$150 for a lousy effort with a Korean girl in an AMP, or $30. $60 for a drug addicted SW in an unsafe area. Geez, I hate the P4P scene in the US.To Greenbud,
I think you mean 100 USD a day budget in Thailand, I just return after spending one week last month in Thailand it is not easy to spend less than 100 USD a day in Bangkok a day now maybe in Pattaya if you stay in cheap hotel and do the beach Road girl st, I remeber 10 yr ago when the dollar get 48 bht you can spend average 100 USD a day in Bangkok even in Phuket with no problem, the last trip I spend about 1200 USD 4 day in Pattaya and 3 night in Bangkok and the most I paid for p4p is 2200 bht at
A massage place in Bangkok and I was staying at 1200 bht a night hotel.
Fast Eddie 48
100 bucks. it is easy.
first, i spend at least $100 just on my hotel.
but, there is a place near the action off soi 8 called the royal asia hotel. about $21 a night. you can eat easily for $19 a day, probably a lot less.
that leaves $60. for $60, you can fuck 2 decent girls from biergarten, nana sw, or suk sw near soi 3/5. or, go to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s once, then fuck a girl from one of the places i mentioned. these are just a few, but there are many possiblities.
I've had horrible experiences in the US due to the attitude of the girls. I still remember that middle aged Korean girl in the Asian Massage Parlor saying "are you crazy!" when I asked for 20 minutes of BJ in a 30 minute session (which normally they will try to rush you out in 15-20 minutes).
$150 for a lousy effort with a Korean girl in an AMP, or $30. $60 for a drug addicted SW in an unsafe area. Geez, I hate the P4P scene in the US.I hear ya! I check the boards around here in the US and the guys are ranting about some "hottie" that is popular among mongers. Then you will eventually see her mug shot when she gets busted and see that she is a total skank. Or they post pics of SWs that I would not force on to my worst enemy.
Airfare and hotels are cheap compared to arrests, divorces and lawyers. The walk of shame in a hotel lobby is MUCH better than the shame of being perp-walked into jail. $200 for a half hour with a worn out, drug addled ho or less than $100 for all night with a young beauty?
I hate the US. I just keep it in my pants when I am here. I can't wait to retire and get out of here for good!
Pogo
I suggest every monger think of a hobby to do while mongering that doesn't include spending lots of money or sex.These are wise words indeed. For married mongers, a hobby that incorporates travel is essential. Even though I travel a lot on business, scuba and photography are my excuses for staying extra days or spending extra money. I have friends that dive, sail, golf, fly and a host of other hobbies as an excuse to go to exotic mongering destinations. One guy claims to be a world class hunter, specializing in ducks. He travels the world, and buys stuffed trophy ducks to bring home and occasionally gets a photo of him with a gun and a duck. His wife thinks he goes for the hunting but he says he travels for the kunting.
Hobbies are good things!
Pogo
To Greenbud,
I think you mean 100 USD a day budget in Thailand, I just return after spending one week last month in Thailand it is not easy to spend less than 100 USD a day in Bangkok a day now maybe in Pattaya if you stay in cheap hotel and do the beach Road girl st, I remeber 10 yr ago when the dollar get 48 bht you can spend average 100 USD a day in Bangkok even in Phuket with no problem, the last trip I spend about 1200 USD 4 day in Pattaya and 3 night in Bangkok$100 US isn't what it use to be. It's hard to travel in style in Thailand at that budget. It can be easily done if you can accept middle class standards and limit your expensive experiences.
Since my budget is $100 average per day for my entire trip, I plan to spend less time in Thailand in order to spend more per day in Thailand while I"m there.
You get great guesthouse / hotel values (good rooms with A / C, bathroom and maybe cable and wi-fi for between $12 - $30) in Cambodia, Vietnam and Laos. Mongering is great in Cambodia, and Vietnam it seems can be very good. Laos (Vientiane) has some places, but the scene seems to be discrete.
$100 US isn't what it use to be. It's hard to travel in style in Thailand at that budget. It can be easily done if you can accept middle class standards and limit your expensive experiences.
Since my budget is $100 average per day for my entire trip, I plan to spend less time in Thailand in order to spend more per day in Thailand while I"m there.
You get great guesthouse / hotel values (good rooms with A / C, bathroom and maybe cable and wi-fi for between $12. $30) in Cambodia, Vietnam and Laos. Mongering is great in Cambodia, and Vietnam it seems can be very good. Laos (Vientiane) has some places, but the scene seems to be discrete.I just did an Agoda search for Bangkok, suk area and ordered it from 1-5* There were dozens of hotels under $50, many under $30. The Miami on soi 13 didn't look bad for $28 and had some decent reviews.
Personally I wouldn't stay there now, but only because I am fortunate enough to stay in top end hotels and usually on the club floors. In my earlier days I would have loved a place like the Miami. Basic accommodations, right in the heart of the action for a cheap price. Even now, in some parts of the Caribbean I pay almost $200 for a place that is probably a lot worse than the Miami. But it is exactly where I need to be so I deal with it. I can stay anywhere, but I do like nicer places when possible or practical.
Dig in and find the bargains. They are out there. The world can still be a cheap place to explore.
Pogo
Bust a move: Breast-slapping new health craze in Thailand.
Want bigger breasts but shy away from the idea of surgery? Thailand claims to have the answer.
Already famous for its medical tourism services – including cheap breast implants – Thailand is promoting a 'body slapping' technique that it claims can boost breast size, according to a video by the Bangkok Post.
It has even licensed one beauty shop in Bangkok to perform the non-surgical treatment, which involves kneading, massaging and hitting of the breasts, as well as buttock-slapping to firm the rear.
The traditional therapy has been practised by shop owner Khemmikka Na Songkhla – better known as Khunying Tobnom – for more than two decades. She claims the slapping shifts fat from one area to another, while kneading works excess fat towards the breasts.
She has approval from the Thai Government to carry out the technique after a study by the Thai Health Ministry reportedly found vigorous massage left volunteers' breasts noticeably bigger. The Ministry went so far as to sponsor a program that urged women to learn how to slap their own breasts.
Clients can expect to gain about 5cm after the painful treatment, Tobnom said. However some are turned away as their breasts are too small.
The clinic charges $380 for six 10-minute slapping sessions
Dad Fun 555
09-29-11, 10:23
Usually when meeting a new lady for the first time, one of the very first questions they will ask is,"How long are you staying in Thailand?" Also when contacting them while away and setting up plans to meet them on a return trip, they will always ask this. What is the purpose of this question; what information are they trying to glean? What is the best way to answer this question?
Usually when meeting a new lady for the first time, one of the very first questions they will ask is,"How long are you staying in Thailand?" Also when contacting them while away and setting up plans to meet them on a return trip, they will always ask this. What is the purpose of this question; what information are they trying to glean? What is the best way to answer this question?You are right. They do always ask those questions. I think most of it is just general conversation such as" where you from" "You been here before" etc. Another one is "where you staying".
Depending on the situtation however, I have to admit that I am not always truthful about my answers. For me it is just a feel for the interaction with the girl that dictates what I am going to say.
Horny Landoora
09-29-11, 13:06
Bust a move: Breast-slapping new health craze in Thailand.
The clinic charges $380 for six 10-minute slapping sessionsWoW. Are you kidding me? Do girls actually go for such things? 380$ for 10 mins. Damn I should come up with something like that as well to mint money! LOL
Chris Long
10-22-11, 07:53
It seems a bit dated but interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54-tQam4T_U&feature=related
Chris Long
10-22-11, 08:00
It says it in Venezula but I figure its probably similer to the resorts in the Dr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pza5_KcNt64&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v73wWoO_EVM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVbc6wzEhj4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qO6MfVWiGc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUHUARTz2Lw&feature=related
Angus Magee
10-22-11, 22:39
Hi,
Angus here from the Berlin, Germany FKK threads.
I am not visiting Thailand myself but a friend is going next week and he was asking me a few questions this evening. As I could not answer satisfactorily I thought I would come here and might get some answers. I visited Thailand some 8 years back so my knowledge is kind of sketchy.
First this will not really be a mongering related trip for him. He will travel through BKK to Chang Mai and then spend 10 days at a northern resort. After that he will spend 4-5 days in Chang Mai relaxing, maybe getting some massage and seeing the sights.
He was asking about money, best way to change it and how much to bring. His plan was to bring around €1000 spending money. That is the travel and hotels are paid (except for Chang Mai but he plans to use Visa for that) and this cash would be general spending. I thought this was a pretty high figure for 4-5 days knocking around. Am I right? And where would he be best to change the money to Thai Baht? Banks? Money Changers?
Second he asked what is the standard electrical outlet in Thailand?
Third (and this is really for me).I asked him to try to purchase for me a small supply of viagra and cialis tablets. Where would be the best place to do this? Can he buy them at any pharmacy? Is there anything he needs to watch out for? What can he expect to pay for, say 6 tablets of each drug?
Thanks in advance and if any of you come to Berlin and need info be sure to contact me here or on my blog.
http://www.angusmagee.com/
AM
BKK Dreaming
10-23-11, 00:38
In Bangkok there are better money changers than bank rates, best to ask in the CM forum.
100 euro notes are best and maybe some 20 euro notes for the last day and does not need 100 euros worth,
Again in Bangkok the plugs are the round German ones plus the flat USA ones, both in one soclet and 220v like Germany.
Viagra etc can probably be found around tourist area at drug stores, do not buy on the street,
200 euros (10, 000 baht) a day to party will get him a long way, almost hard to spend that much unless he is buying drinks for everyone.
Hope that helps.
BK
Hi,
Angus here from the Berlin, Germany FKK threads.
I am not visiting Thailand myself but a friend is going next week and he was asking me a few questions this evening. As I could not answer satisfactorily I thought I would come here and might get some answers. I visited Thailand some 8 years back so my knowledge is kind of sketchy.
First this will not really be a mongering related trip for him. He will travel through BKK to Chang Mai and then spend 10 days at a northern resort. After that he will spend 4-5 days in Chang Mai relaxing, maybe getting some massage and seeing the sights.
He was asking about money, best way to change it and how much to bring. His plan was to bring around €1000 spending money. That is the travel and hotels are paid (except for Chang Mai but he plans to use Visa for that) and this cash would be general spending. I thought this was a pretty high figure for 4-5 days knocking around. Am I right? And where would he be best to change the money to Thai Baht? Banks? Money Changers?
Second he asked what is the standard electrical outlet in Thailand?
Third (and this is really for me). I asked him to try to purchase for me a small supply of viagra and cialis tablets. Where would be the best place to do this? Can he buy them at any pharmacy? Is there anything he needs to watch out for? What can he expect to pay for, say 6 tablets of each drug?
Thanks in advance and if any of you come to Berlin and need info be sure to contact me here or on my blog.
http://www.angusmagee.com/
AM1. Go to a bank to exchange. He will have money left over.
2. 220 outlet.
3. Over the counter at pharmacy. I don't need the stuff, but probably 500-750 baht for 6.
Angus Magee
10-23-11, 10:06
Thanks gents. Good info and tells me pretty much what I needed to know. ISG is also one of the best general travel resources I know.
AM
1. Go to a bank to exchange. He will have money left over.
2. 220 outlet.
3. Over the counter at pharmacy. I don't need the stuff, but probably 500-750 baht for 6.1. I personally prefer banks. On an overall sum of 1000€ any wandering around in search for the big deal is worthless and a waste of time.
Taking into account general costs for single expenses, (such as MP's, ST or LT fees, food, bars, bar fines) , I would not change more than 200€ at a time. If any money left can be used when paying hotel bill topping up the difference with the credit cards.
Thailand is a "real cash" country. Credit card use is often penalized by a 5 to 10% surcharge if accepted at all.
Being also a pretty safe country carrying 4/5000b. (but less is well enough) doesn't represent an issue from a safety point if view. Unless one doesn't overspend very difficult to spend more than 50/70€ a day, and this means being treating oneself very well. A decent meal in a Thai restaurant can be from 5 to 10€ on the expensive side, less than 5€ and still great on the conservative side.
2. 220V outlet with. 99% of the cases, sockets accepting both US flat pins and the European round pins.
3. Didn't buy blue or ylw tablets but recently purchased green Kamagra for a friend at 400b. For 4 tablets of 100mg (bought at the small pharmacy opposite NEP entrance in BKK.
Tens of street stalls vending all the rainbow colours tablets but I would not even touch the box, LOL.
SexPerimenter
10-24-11, 20:31
I'm going to be in the Bangkok area for three nights soon and was planning on staying in Pattaya but while doing research I saw comments to the effect that Pattaya is where the old bar girls go after working in one of the Bangkok RLDs when they can no longer make enough money there. Is there any truth to that?
Where would you find the largest selection of cute 20-25 year olds? Pattaya walking street, Soi Cowboy, Patpong, Nana?
Any suggestions for an up-scale hotel within walking distance of a RLD?
Thanks in advance
AussieDoug
10-25-11, 10:58
I'm going to be in the Bangkok area for three nights soon and was planning on staying in Pattaya but while doing research I saw comments to the effect that Pattaya is where the old bar girls go after working in one of the Bangkok RLDs when they can no longer make enough money there. Is there any truth to that?
Where would you find the largest selection of cute 20-25 year olds? Pattaya walking street, Soi Cowboy, Patpong, Nana?
Any suggestions for an up-scale hotel within walking distance of a RLD?
Thanks in advanceI would go to Soi Cowboy first, Nana second, and Pattaya if you take the trip down. There is young and old in Pattaya, but the cost of living in Pattaya is lower for thais, so if they are earning less they may go there. Also, Patpong is the best known starting spot for freshies from the Bush, you can strike a few young ones there, try Cosmos, ordinary bar, but of course have lady to take care.
Dash Riprock
10-25-11, 17:40
Hi,
Angus here from the Berlin, Germany FKK threads.
I am not visiting Thailand myself but a friend is going next week and he was asking me a few questions this evening. As I could not answer satisfactorily I thought I would come here and might get some answers. I visited Thailand some 8 years back so my knowledge is kind of sketchy.
First this will not really be a mongering related trip for him. He will travel through BKK to Chang Mai and then spend 10 days at a northern resort. After that he will spend 4-5 days in Chang Mai relaxing, maybe getting some massage and seeing the sights.
He was asking about money, best way to change it and how much to bring. His plan was to bring around €1000 spending money. That is the travel and hotels are paid (except for Chang Mai but he plans to use Visa for that) and this cash would be general spending. I thought this was a pretty high figure for 4-5 days knocking around. Am I right? And where would he be best to change the money to Thai Baht? Banks? Money Changers?
Second he asked what is the standard electrical outlet in Thailand?
Third (and this is really for me). I asked him to try to purchase for me a small supply of viagra and cialis tablets. Where would be the best place to do this? Can he buy them at any pharmacy? Is there anything he needs to watch out for? What can he expect to pay for, say 6 tablets of each drug?
Thanks in advance and if any of you come to Berlin and need info be sure to contact me here or on my blog.
http://www.angusmagee.com/
AMDrink only bottled water. And that includes brushing your teeth. In the past, brushing your teeth with tap water was probably olkay, but at the moment at my place on Ladprao Road AND at my city place on Sukhumvit 64. The water is tinted yellowish. Apparently there is either contamination because of the floods OR they are purposely putting "extra" chemicals into the treatment process to preempt the flood contamination. Either way, not a good deal to be soaking in it.
Money changing isn't black and white. If you have a bank that doesn't charge for overseas ATM withdrawals, that might be the best bet.
Viagra, Cialis, etc. , even generics, are all overpriced. $4 a pill is often the norm here. But online, you can get it sent to your home and just bring some with you. Myself I pay something like 70 cents a pill for unbranded sildenafil 100 mg.
Oh, and one more thing because of the flooding, many places are a bit understaffed because people are off evacuating their homes!
Have a good trip!
If this link is ok with the forum's rules, it might be helpful for beginners in Thailand:
http://soapy-massage.com/index.html
I'm going to be in the Bangkok area for three nights soon and was planning on staying in Pattaya but while doing research I saw comments to the effect that Pattaya is where the old bar girls go after working in one of the Bangkok RLDs when they can no longer make enough money there. Is there any truth to that?
Where would you find the largest selection of cute 20-25 year olds? Pattaya walking street, Soi Cowboy, Patpong, Nana?
Any suggestions for an up-scale hotel within walking distance of a RLD?
Thanks in advancePattaya hotel near RLD? Close your eyes and pick one because THE ENTIRE CITY IS A RLD.
There's a documentary circulating on the net called Girlfriends for Sale. It's a documentary about Thai girls trying to snap up foreign guys for a better life. What's new right? Well, this video contains a clip of the "best falang husband" contest that takes place in Issan somewhere and celebrates the biggest Kwai to marry a gold-digging bar girl. As we know, not all falang / bar girl relationships are the same, but this contest is portrayed in a manner whereby the biggest falang loser, wins.
I'm sure you'll all get a good laugh out of the narrator's assertion that these girls have no other choice, but to sell themselves to falangs so that they can have a better life. Don't mind that the girl featured in the documentary goes home to a mom that has a good job, house with aircon, jewelry and a car. In my view, there are only two categories of working girls in Thailand: those sold into prostitution for which I have pity and those that are lazy bitches who don't want to work at Big C by day and study when they can like the masses do. I shed no tears for these lazy hoes and its complete bullshit to believe their aren't other viable options to improve their circumstances aside from selling their pussies. But, alas, I'm thankful they do.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7da_1201122340
Cheers,
J Ride
There's a documentary circulating on the net called Girlfriends for Sale. It's a documentary about Thai girls trying to snap up foreign guys for a better life. What's new right? Well, this video contains a clip of the "best falang husband" contest that takes place in Issan somewhere and celebrates the biggest Kwai to marry a gold-digging bar girl. As we know, not all falang / bar girl relationships are the same, but this contest is portrayed in a manner whereby the biggest falang loser, wins.
I'm sure you'll all get a good laugh out of the narrator's assertion that these girls have no other choice, but to sell themselves to falangs so that they can have a better life. Don't mind that the girl featured in the documentary goes home to a mom that has a good job, house with aircon, jewelry and a car. In my view, there are only two categories of working girls in Thailand: those sold into prostitution for which I have pity and those that are lazy bitches who don't want to work at Big C by day and study when they can like the masses do. I shed no tears for these lazy hoes and its complete bullshit to believe their aren't other viable options to improve their circumstances aside from selling their pussies. But, alas, I'm thankful they do.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7da_1201122340
Cheers,
J RideHaving watched the link it seems the "best falang husband" competition is purely a bit of fun to see who has learnt the most about Thailand and its culture, its not about being a loser or marrying a gold digger.
The sad fact here is that you presume the worst and try to insinuate the worst, when in fact it appears to be just harmless fun.
As far as Thai girls go there are no two categories, although the popular mass media attempts to protray this time and time again, in the same way they always portray Jews as stingy or Germans as arrogant or French as stinking of garlic etc.
There is a whole spectrum of girls, just as there are in any country and you can find as many gold diggers in Europe or the USA as you can in Asia.
You can also find as many "losers" in Europe or the USA, just look at the divorce rates in those area's.
Every country has everything, from losers to winners to gold diggers to prostitutes etc.
Had originally planned to visit BKK (arriving next week) for few days then take overnight train to CM. Heard some parts of BKK underwater but most areas spared and also CM was not really affected by the current floods. But have trouble finding info if the trains from BKK to CM was affected as alot of areas between these 2 cities were underwater.
Anyone have any info on the current train situation between BKK and CM?
Thanks
Had originally planned to visit BKK (arriving next week) for few days then take overnight train to CM. Heard some parts of BKK underwater but most areas spared and also CM was not really affected by the current floods. But have trouble finding info if the trains from BKK to CM was affected as alot of areas between these 2 cities were underwater.
Anyone have any info on the current train situation between BKK and CM?
ThanksThat train resumed services today.
I have gotten an email from a WG (26- 28 year old The Dollhouse / Soi Cowboy) gogo dancer I met 1. 5 years ago) who says she is back home in Surin and reports that flooding is keeping her from, um apparently honest, work. I have been in occasional email contact with her and her recent message is the first appeal for money over time. I am inclined to believe she really is in dire straits (but aren't they all, really?).
Under the circumstances I feel compelled to help out with about $200 USD. (I harbor no illusions of getting anything in return and this is pure philanthropy. She was a memorable, all-time fuck. Certainly I am not the only one in the outreach effort, though I was first to contact her in inquiry of how her family was faring with all the bad news.)
So, to cut to the point, does anyone have any knowledge of how bad things are in Surin. As in flooding a big problem? Unless I hear that the sad tale is total B. S. (and, say Surin is bone-dry) , I'll wire the girl a little money.
Thanks, in advance, for any intel.
Cheers.
I have gotten an email from a WG (26- 28 year old The Dollhouse / Soi Cowboy) gogo dancer I met 1. 5 years ago) who says she is back home in Surin and reports that flooding is keeping her from, um apparently honest, work. I have been in occasional email contact with her and her recent message is the first appeal for money over time. I am inclined to believe she really is in dire straits (but aren't they all, really?).
Under the circumstances I feel compelled to help out with about $200 USD. (I harbor no illusions of getting anything in return and this is pure philanthropy. She was a memorable, all-time fuck. Certainly I am not the only one in the outreach effort, though I was first to contact her in inquiry of how her family was faring with all the bad news.)
So, to cut to the point, does anyone have any knowledge of how bad things are in Surin. As in flooding a big problem? Unless I hear that the sad tale is total B. S. (and, say Surin is bone-dry) , I'll wire the girl a little money.
Thanks, in advance, for any intel.
Cheers.I was in Sisaket about two weeks ago, just east of Surin, and there was a lot of flooding. I took the train from Ubon Ratchathani to Bangkok and saw a lot of water everywhere.
This map indicates there are floods in Surin: http://flood.longdo.com/?lang=en
You opened the "help me" door by contacting her. If you send her the money she will (might) never forget you. And, if you see her again, you will be rewarded. $200 (6000 baht) will go a long way to help her family.
Even if the money goes to her Thai boyfriend, you can feel good that you helped someone! ;)
Remember, if you wire via Western Union she will need your full name to pick up the money.
I was in Sisaket about two weeks ago, just east of Surin, and there was a lot of flooding. I took the train from Ubon Ratchathani to Bangkok and saw a lot of water everywhere.
This map indicates there are floods in Surin:
http://flood.longdo.com/?lang=en
You opened the "help me" door by contacting her. If you send her the money she will (might) never forget you. And, if you see her again, you will be rewarded. $200 (6000 baht) will go a long way to help her family.
Even if the money goes to her Thai boyfriend, you can feel good that you helped someone! .
Remember, if you wire via Western Union she will need your full name to pick up the money.Fon Tok,
Many thanks for the information, and coming from a person whose posts I enjoy reading at that!
Armed with confirmation about the bad news in Surin, I will send her the modest sum. Doubt that I'll ever see her again, but I do have warm memories of a day of touristing (among other things) with her, so cannot complain. I'll consider it at least a belated tip for services rendered and figure that the money is indeed truly needed. Have been in touch, very occasionally, with her since meeting her 1. 5 years ago, and this is the first time help was solicited, it seems (cough, cough) honest, as far as that goes. Thanks again, and cheers!
Fon Tok,
Many thanks for the information, and coming from a person whose posts I enjoy reading at that!
Armed with confirmation about the bad news in Surin, I will send her the modest sum. Doubt that I'll ever see her again, but I do have warm memories of a day of touristing (among other things) with her, so cannot complain. I'll consider it at least a belated tip for services rendered and figure that the money is indeed truly needed. Have been in touch, very occasionally, with her since meeting her 1. 5 years ago, and this is the first time help was solicited, it seems (cough, cough) honest, as far as that goes. Thanks again, and cheers!Most important is to be aware of what you are doing and you seem to be.
Sometime we waste more money for much less.
And it is good to feel a bit of a philantrop.
Washes out some of our "sins", and that is not hypocrisy!
For once it is good to give money to a WG girl not expecting anything in return.
Just don't get into the ATM syndrome after this, but you look wise enough.
Most important is to be aware of what you are doing and you seem to be.
Sometime we waste more money for much less.
And it is good to feel a bit of a philantrop.
Washes out some of our "sins", and that is not hypocrisy!
For once it is good to give money to a WG girl not expecting anything in return.
Just don't get into the ATM syndrome after this, but you look wise enough.Yes, I do not plan to send more than the amount states. Sponsorship opportunites not available, and one must realize that this young lady, having danced at The Dollhouse in Cowboy, has seen more dick than the Man U locker room.
Is there anywhere else in the world where you can:
1. Pay $40 a night for a hotel in a prime location such that you can.
2. Walk outside to dozens of street walking hookers w / I a 10 minute walk.
3. Or phone ladies to come to your room for only $30 ST.
4. Some being stunners 8-10s, many being above average 6-7. 5, most being doable.
5. And many are willing to BB for a tip, plus.
6. The country is one of the safest in Asia, comparable to Western nations and.
7. There is a world class hospital minutes away where you get service quickly.
8. There are markets 7-11's restaurants, etc nearby, and huge malls w / I minutes by skytrain.
9. Plus you don't need to know any of their lingo.
Let me know if anywhere in the world is like that, or even half as good. I doubt it.
And there are a number of other benefits I didn't even mention.
Philipines is too dangerous.
China, too dangerous and you need to speak the lingo.
Hong Kong, too expensive and lingo issues.
Germany, too expensive.
Brazil, too dangerous
I shed no tears for these lazy hoes and its complete bullshit to believe their aren't other viable options to improve their circumstances aside from selling their pussies. But, alas, I'm thankful they do.
J RideWhy do you have to denigrate girls you want to fuck? Take a look at yourself.
Sex work is a well paid profession for Thai girls. If they had a better paid option, they would take it.
Everybody takes the highest paid job for the least work. Its only natural.
Okay Some Thai won't sell their pussy even though they would make far more money.
They just don't like the idea of putting up with asshole guys and its against their particular religion or morals, etc.
Each person makes their own decision.
Personally I believe sex is good. I don't understand the stigma behind selling and buying it. It seems to be some plot by men.
Over the ages who always wanted to get it for free, and there are bullshit religious rules that are antequated,
Based on the fears that girls will get pregnant irresponsibly.
In days of Birth Control, the religious belief that you must fuck only your wife, are well past they're used by date, IMHO.
We all believe that selling sex is good, otherwise we wouldn't be buying.
I never got as good sex from my ex-wife, so for me, its much cheaper to not have a girlfriend or wife.
Okay I have had a few really fabulous freebies, even from girls that have previously been selling, but its still a lot easier to buy.
I also have sex with girls that have a normal boyfriend / husband, when that guy is not providing them with what they need, emotionally or sexually. These needs are a natural biological thing. I have never ever got sufficient sex from just one girl, other than for a fairly short term, e. G. Like maybe a week. I need to buy. I need lots of pretty girls to sell.
I am very thankful that they can't all find better paid jobs.
Just a quick question. Has anyone ever found a working girl in Thailand that can take a good face fucking?
Mr Enternational
11-08-11, 08:55
I have gotten an email from a WG (26- 28 year old The Dollhouse / Soi Cowboy) gogo dancer I met 1. 5 years ago) who says she is back home in Surin and reports that flooding is keeping her from, um apparently honest, work. I have been in occasional email contact with her and her recent message is the first appeal for money over time. I am inclined to believe she really is in dire straits (but aren't they all, really?).
Under the circumstances I feel compelled to help out with about $200 USD. (I harbor no illusions of getting anything in return and this is pure philanthropy. She was a memorable, all-time fuck. Certainly I am not the only one in the outreach effort, though I was first to contact her in inquiry of how her family was faring with all the bad news.)
So, to cut to the point, does anyone have any knowledge of how bad things are in Surin. As in flooding a big problem? Unless I hear that the sad tale is total B. S. (and, say Surin is bone-dry) , I'll wire the girl a little money.
Thanks, in advance, for any intel.
Cheers.
Armed with confirmation about the bad news in Surin, I will send her the modest sum. Doubt that I'll ever see her again, but I do have warm memories of a day of touristing (among other things) with her, so cannot complain. I'll consider it at least a belated tip for services rendered and figure that the money is indeed truly needed. Have been in touch, very occasionally, with her since meeting her 1. 5 years ago, and this is the first time help was solicited, it seems (cough, cough) honest, as far as that goes. Thanks again, and cheers!I hope that you didn't send that money yet. You just might be being played. I just talked to a friend there and she told me:
Mrenternational x_x_x says: everything ok? Somebody say surin have nam.
Praphatson says: no no have not nam. so good here he he!
It's kind of like giving money to a homeless guy who spends it in liquor right? It's not as much about what they do with it as your intention. What do you want them to do with it? Invest in Apple?
I hope that you didn't send that money yet. You just might be being played.Oh well. Did send $ already, but figured on all these things and, as another poster mentioned, am under no illusions that I "am special." (Now where would I have given that impression? LOL.)
Did get a nice thank you note that the kindness will be remembered when we meet again in Bangkok. We'll see.
Oh well. Did send $ already, but figured on all these things and, as another poster mentioned, am under no illusions that I "am special." (Now where would I have given that impression? LOL.) Did get a nice thank you note that the kindness will be remembered when we meet again in Bangkok. We'll see.Good man! Nice that she responded back, too.
Most P4P women with any organizational skills keep the phone numbers and e-mails of their clients. Some use them, some don't.
It's a very tough time in Thailand for a lot of people. The flood and subsequent downturn in the economy is affecting everyone to some degree. Some have seen their lives completely destroyed.
You should definitely look her up on your next trip to BKK. As they say here in Thailand,"why not!"
Mr Enternational
11-10-11, 03:55
Oh well. Did send $ already, but figured on all these things and, as another poster mentioned, am under no illusions that I "am special." (Now where would I have given that impression? LOL.)
Did get a nice thank you note that the kindness will be remembered when we meet again in Bangkok. We'll see.Good that you got a note. My wingman sent one of his ex-regulars 10,000 baht a while back. She only asked for 6,000. Something or other about a roof on her parent's house. All he asked was that she call him to let him know she received the money. She had no problem calling him any other time. But that call he never received. And when he asked her why, it was because she forgot!
And last month when he was in town the girl said that she was in her hometown, but would be traveling by bus to Pattaya on a certain day. Funny that the day before she was supposed to be traveling another girl said that she had seen her in an internet cafe in Pattaya. You can't trust them farther than you can throw them.
Clinton to visit Bangkok next week:
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Clinton-to-visit-Bangkok-next-week-30169698.html
Yingluck awaits details of legal action:
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Yingluck-awaits-details-of-legal-action-urges-unit-30169700.html
Flood-related diseases, The perils in the water:
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/life/The-perils-in-the-water-30168606.html
I've been to disneyland and disneyworld in the USA.
I've been to nymphland in Phuket, medusaworld in Pattaya, riverworld in Isaan and waterworld in BKK.
Just a quick question. Has anyone ever found a working girl in Thailand that can take a good face fucking?Oh, absolutely. If that's what you are into, Thailand is an excellent choice. The girls here are up for anything, which is why so many have HIV.
Oh, absolutely. If that's what you are into, Thailand is an excellent choice. The girls here are up for anything, which is why so many have HIV.Of course if you ask the bar managers and the girls they will all tell you they test negative. Many will even show you some bogus report from the hospital showing HIV neg.
I was in Bangkok a 2 years ago and plan to return this winter. I had unprotected sex with one girl and got her email and made very little contact with her. I was hoping she did not get preg. I think I know the answer but let me ask you guys. If she felt she got preg and had my contact info I would assume I would get a "please help me " email right? I like to fuck and rarely I don't use a rubber. But wheni don't I worry to have a kid somewhere and not know about it. Let me know what you think.
Mr Enternational
11-13-11, 05:39
I was in Bangkok a 2 years ago and plan to return this winter. I had unprotected sex with one girl and got her email and made very little contact with her. I was hoping she did not get preg. I think I know the answer but let me ask you guys. If she felt she got preg and had my contact info I would assume I would get a "please help me " email right? I like to fuck and rarely I don't use a rubber. But wheni don't I worry to have a kid somewhere and not know about it. Let me know what you think.George if that was the case I think we would see many more Thai women walking around with big bellies and mixed kids. The girls are not as stupid as you think. Many of them already have an injection so that they won't get pregnant, while others will just go buy the morning after pill for 50 baht.
LittleBigMan
11-13-11, 11:15
Two years is a long time thinking about whether there is a little George Sims running around Thailand and you not knowing about it. I myself strap on but there has been times when it is so wild and good that I have forgotten and feel bad after if this might happen and think about the IF'S like getting her pregnant or a infection to myself. So in the end the best thing you can do if you like to fuck and is basically over the hill in having kids, get snip! Or show greater mental strengh and strap on everytime.
As for injections and pills, I wouldn't trust it as far as I can throw them. If they think it is worth having a kid to keep you and have a better life they will do it and tell you they are protected. Everytime I see a old guy or any guy (Farang) rolling a baby cart around the first thing that cross my mind she most likely told this guy it was a accident. If they want it they will have it and take a chance to see if you will support him / her. I know a half doesn't guys first hand that after they found out they were going to be fathers tell me it was a accident.
I've heard all the stupid reasons and its not always easy but if you don't want to be papa then no matter how good it feels get snip or get cover?
LBM
Oh well. Did send $ already, but figured on all these things and, as another poster mentioned, am under no illusions that I "am special." (Now where would I have given that impression? LOL.)
Did get a nice thank you note that the kindness will be remembered when we meet again in Bangkok. We'll see.Thers's nothing wrong with giving little gifts even if this present is just a Western Union transaction. As long you don't ruin yourself or think she has to be super grateful for that or has to give you unlimited sexual pleasures for free next time you come to Thailand. I've done it before it didin't feel too bad.
BTW (sorry I've asked in anther thread before and got no answer) : Is there a thai expression for the farang that sends money? Do the working girls also use the term Walking ATM? Or the more euphemistic Jai Dee? Or is there another word?
Wolvenvacht
11-13-11, 13:34
You can't trust them farther than you can throw them.Why would you want to throw them? I'd rather keep them close to me.
Silliness aside, I met a DIA date last time I was in Pattaya and we had good fun. I bought her some clothes and jewelry and agreed to sponsor her English course. And indeed her English is improving.
The effect of it will probably be that next time we meet again, we will hold meaningful discussions and forget to f*ck.
LittleBigMan
11-13-11, 16:18
Thers's nothing wrong with giving little gifts even if this present is just a Western Union transaction. As long you don't ruin yourself or think she has to be super grateful for that or has to give you unlimited sexual pleasures for free next time you come to Thailand. I've done it before it didin't feel too bad.
BTW (sorry I've asked in anther thread before and got no answer) : Is there a thai expression for the farang that sends money? Do the working girls also use the term Walking ATM? Or the more euphemistic Jai Dee? Or is there another word?From my experience the use of ATM in a serious conversation is offensive to a Thai, because they don't seem to believe that asking us for money is a problem. The problem I see is that they wouldn't even ask a Thai friend yet they would have no problem asking us for money or things. Like I said in a post before its like a entitlement to them that is o, k. To do so because they believe we all have it. In the situation with the roof, I have never heard of a Thai asking another Thai that their family need a roof. Jai Dee is use in place of a ATM reference to Farang. The more the ATM dispenses then it Jai Dee Mak Mak.
LBM
I've never been able to figure out how to use the 'archived reports' in the Thailand forum. I can find some old reports, others I can't find. To be honest I can't figure it out at all.
First, there is a 2007 archive, and also a 2002-2006 archive, but when I search in them, using the 'advanced search' for reports 'a year ago and older', it just gives me the reports from 2010. There seems to be no way at all for finding ones own reports from the archived reports.
Can anyone help?
Naked Gunz
11-24-11, 03:55
This was the funniest shit I have read in a while about LOS!
http://www.askmen.com/dating/curtsmith_250/271_why-single-men-cant-go-to-bangkok.html
Had to be written by a chick!
1. Go to a bank to exchange. He will have money left over.
2. 220 outlet.
3. Over the counter at pharmacy. I don't need the stuff, but probably 500-750 baht for 6.Can you please let me know in which pharmacy you find viagra and cialis at 500-750 for 6? I tried recently and the best price I found (in pharmacy of course and not in street) was 1500 for box of 4 (viagra 100 mg and cialis 20 mg). Am I missing something here?
Thanks in advance!
Life
Can you please let me know in which pharmacy you find viagra and cialis at 500-750 for 6? I tried recently and the best price I found (in pharmacy of course and not in street) was 1500 for box of 4 (viagra 100 mg and cialis 20 mg). Am I missing something here?
Thanks in advance!
LifeHi Life,
You should try Chula Pharmacy on Thanon Rama IV, between Surawong and Silom (closer to Surawong on that side of the road). Sala Daeng BTS or Silom MRT. Generic Sildenafil (Elonza brand) for about 800 for 4 X 100mg, I think. No Tadalafil in generic, only Cialis brand at much higher price. OTC sales no problem.
Hi Life,
You should try Chula Pharmacy on Thanon Rama IV, between Surawong and Silom (closer to Surawong on that side of the road). Sala Daeng BTS or Silom MRT. Generic Sildenafil (Elonza brand) for about 800 for 4 X 100mg, I think. No Tadalafil in generic, only Cialis brand at much higher price. OTC sales no problem.Thanks Setra, I've looked only for original Cialis and Viagra and found the 1500 price. But I'll check out the pharmacy you mentioned.
Has anyone got any info on mountain bike tours in Thailand or contact details for bike shops?
Dash Riprock
11-29-11, 13:58
Thanks Setra, I've looked only for original Cialis and Viagra and found the 1500 price. But I'll check out the pharmacy you mentioned.If you buy on the net before you come to Thailand, you can find sites that are 80 cents to a $1 per pill.
LittleBigMan
11-30-11, 01:42
Has anyone got any info on mountain bike tours in Thailand or contact details for bike shops?Just Google " mountain bike tours in Thailand " plenty of bike shops too.
LBM
If you buy on the net before you come to Thailand, you can find sites that are 80 cents to a $1 per pill.That's counterfeit stuff, I have been told. Have you tested them out?
A bit off topic but I buygenerics from India and they are excellent.
My prefernce is for penegra and kamagra. Last time I was in Bangkok I saw them being sold on footpaths / sidewalks around soi 23 and they seemed original from India at least. Let me know if you live in Bangkok and need a few.
That's counterfeit stuff, I have been told. Have you tested them out?
Last time I was in Bangkok I saw them being sold on footpaths / sidewalks around soi 23 and they seemed original from India at least. Let me know if you live in Bangkok and need a few.I saw a few stalls selling shabby looking 'original' packs of pills and gels around the corner of Soi 11, along with fake watches, fake belts, fake poloshirts, fake handbags. What makes you think the pills would be genuine?
It's up to you guys, but I wouldn't touch the stuff on streetstalls. For a start the storage temperature conditions have been breached on any normal Bangkok day.
Dash Riprock
12-01-11, 12:34
That's counterfeit stuff, I have been told. Have you tested them out?Yes, I have. It has the same effect as the name brand Viagra, Cialis, and / or Levitra (have tried them all). Just stick to the brands made by Indian pharmaceutical firms such as Ajanta (they make Kamagra branded sildenafil 100 mg for example) , Cipla (they make Tadacip branded Tadalafil 20 mg) , and Ranbaxy (Caverta brand sildenafil 100 mg). Myself I prefer unbranded Sildenafil or Tadalafil made by RSM pharma. These are all firms among others that have an international presence, INCLUDING in the US where they (combined) sell a billion+ $ of generic meds of all types in hospitals all over the country. The only thing 'shady' in the whole deal is that Pfizer, Lily, Bayer, etc. Don't get a cut of the action. They combat this by saying any other brand other than theirs is fake and 'may be dangerous. ' nevermind that they well know that these same companies are all world class pharmaceutical firms with inroads to all the same global markets they do.
As for true fakes. Those are when you find Viagra, Cialis, or Levitra branded items in small pharmacies AND online that likely do not have supply contracts with the local master distributor. If you want the real deal of those brands, stick to well known hospitals, Boots, and Watsons. Otherwise you're risking getting 'counterfeits, ' which shouldn't be confused with off brand 'generics. '
I to have ordered over the Internet after much research, checked out what I got versus a true branded Levitra (pill of choice) and it is spot on. And a lot cheaper in cost.
Yes, I have. It has the same effect as the name brand Viagra, Cialis, and / or Levitra (have tried them all). Just stick to the brands made by Indian pharmaceutical firms such as Ajanta (they make Kamagra branded sildenafil 100 mg for example) , Cipla (they make Tadacip branded Tadalafil 20 mg) , and Ranbaxy (Caverta brand sildenafil 100 mg). Myself I prefer unbranded Sildenafil or Tadalafil made by RSM pharma. These are all firms among others that have an international presence, INCLUDING in the US where they (combined) sell a billion+ $ of generic meds of all types in hospitals all over the country. The only thing 'shady' in the whole deal is that Pfizer, Lily, Bayer, etc. Don't get a cut of the action. They combat this by saying any other brand other than theirs is fake and 'may be dangerous. ' nevermind that they well know that these same companies are all world class pharmaceutical firms with inroads to all the same global markets they do.
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Dash Riprock
12-02-11, 03:36
I to have ordered over the Internet after much research, checked out what I got versus a true branded Levitra (pill of choice) and it is spot on. And a lot cheaper in cost.I have as well and yes, the counterfeit Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra pills do look identical (it's not too difficult for them to do exact color and print work matching. It's their business after all) and in many cases perform just as well.
They are indeed cheaper than the name brand but they are more expensive than they should be for what is essentially a generic product not made by Pfizer, Lily, and / or Bayer.
They are filling the market demand for those who don't want to buy generics, want the name brands, but don't want the name brand pricing. They can be equated to textile factories that produce grade A counterfeit clothing.
-If the real genuine product is $19-$20 a pill (for Viagra 100 mg for example).
-And the fake comes in with an identical looking product for $10 a pill. In the 'early days, ' they still didn't have their packaging quite right, but for the most part they have since ironed out the misprints and off color matching.
-And then there is the no name generic that is $1-$5 a pill.
For all of these folks, from Pfizer on down to an Indian firm like Parex, RSM, Ajanta, etc. It still costs something like 5 cents a pill, so everyone is making a bundle. Especially so though for that niche in the middle selling for $10 a pill to people who think they are getting the real deal.
AussieDoug
12-02-11, 11:43
I have as well and yes, the counterfeit Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra pills do look identical (it's not too difficult for them to do exact color and print work matching. It's their business after all) and in many cases perform just as well.
-And then there is the no name generic that is $1-$5 a pill.
For all of these folks, from Pfizer on down to an Indian firm like Parex, RSM, Ajanta, etc. It still costs something like 5 cents a pill, so everyone is making a bundle. Especially so though for that niche in the middle selling for $10 a pill to people who think they are getting the real deal.Cheapest knock off Viagra I have found was in Cambodia, it's called VeeTab, only in 50mg and is USD$4. 30 for 10 tabs, almost worth the trip to stock up. They are made by an indian firm for an Iranian drug company, I have seen them a long time ago in Australia in Chinatown, but not recently. They work.
Cheapest knock off Viagra . .They are made by an indian firm for an Iranian drug company, I have seen them a long time ago in Australia in Chinatown, but not recently. They work.Do they grow also your ears and lips turn blue?
Just kidding. Of course, but personally I am more than cautious on those "dodgy" medicaments.
The real medicine itslef is already a challenge as on principle you need to see a doctor to see if you are fit for that.
Nearly nobody does, leaving it to his own judgement (I am no different) , so at least I think the minimum we sould do is to stick to proved products (and on principle the genuine are, Iam not saying the others are not, but we do not have real proofs)
There are some side-effects that come out with time, sometime.
Enough on this OT subject.
Cheapest knock off Viagra I have found was in Cambodia, it's called VeeTab, only in 50mg and is USD$4. 30 for 10 tabs, almost worth the trip to stock up. They are made by an indian firm for an Iranian drug company, I have seen them a long time ago in Australia in Chinatown, but not recently. They work.In Phnom Penh Indian generic Viagra are easily available. Like Penagra, Kamagra etc. I got $2 for a pack of four 100 MG in one pharmace and $1 pack of four 100 MG in another one. I guess it helps to bargain if you are going to stock up. They all work very well.
Frankfurter
12-04-11, 20:53
Has anybody a recommendation for a Pattaya pharmacy which sells Indian (generic) Tadalfil (which works RSM, or similar)? It's true that in PP you find the best deals but I don't have the time to fly there.
Thanks!
There is a long discussion here: http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=153842. And, several others. That link has two addresses of one supplier to the US: http://mensmedsonline.com/. I used them. It came quickly. It was discreet. It was cheap. It worked well.
That's not a storefront in Thailand, but may be useful for your preparations to go there. Also, you know where it's coming from.
Has anybody a recommendation for a Pattaya pharmacy which sells Indian (generic) Tadalfil (which works RSM, or similar)? It's true that in PP you find the best deals but I don't have the time to fly there.
Thanks!
Where do you go to get the generics in PP and know you're getting the right, safe thing? Same question for hanoi and HCMC.
In Phnom Penh Indian generic Viagra are easily available. Like Penagra, Kamagra etc. I got $2 for a pack of four 100 MG in one pharmace and $1 pack of four 100 MG in another one. I guess it helps to bargain if you are going to stock up. They all work very well.
Hello fellow ISGers,
I will be going to Vietnam, Laos, and Thailand again for about 2 weeks (business). I am finally unnattached. I want to have the regular fun I've had before, but I would like to maximize GFE experiences with girls who could potentially turn out to be LT relationships. Could be working girls, but could be college girls, working women, whatever. I have certain traits I want, which I could list, if people want me to (in order to help me). But, where would you recommend I hang out to do this? Probably not the bargirls and not AMPs. But, I do want success, even if not on the LT, at the end of the night and to pick up a good (and cute) female traveling partner for my duration there.
And, yes, I've hobbied for 10+ yrs, and I have read tons of pages here this week, picking up clues. So, I'm not just signing on for the first time and considering my time more important than yours, and posting cluelessly. When I have successess, due to suggestions here, I'll post here (as I have done consistently with **** and ECCIE. Net as nicemusic).
Thanks,
NM
Has anybody a recommendation for a Pattaya pharmacy which sells Indian (generic) Tadalfil (which works RSM, or similar)? It's true that in PP you find the best deals but I don't have the time to fly there. Thanks!You might try the small pharmacy that is in the little complex on the corner of Soi Diana and Soi LK Metro. It is diagonally across from the Areca Lodge. I've had luck finding similar products there in the past. It's just around the corner from Champagne a-Go-Go.
Dash Riprock
12-05-11, 05:02
I've never found anyone charging less than 400-700 Baht per 4 tablet blister pack, neither in Pattaya or Bangkok. I do like the RSM Pharmaceuticals product too though, they sell it unbranded with just a no-nonsense "Tadalafil 20 mg tablets" or "Sildenafil Citrate 100 mg tablets" on the packaging. Cheap (around US$0. 70 cents a tablet. Which is actually just 35 cents since I only use half a tablet at time) and just as effective.
Hello, fellow ISGers,
I will be going to Vietnam, Laos, and Thailand again for about 2 weeks (business). I am finally unnattached. I want to have the regular fun I've had before, but I would like to maximize GFE experiences with girls who could potentially turn out to be LT relationships. Could be working girls, but could be college girls, working women, whatever. I have certain traits I want, which I could list, if people want me to (in order to help me). But, where would you recommend I hang out to do this? Probably not the bargirls and not AMPs. But, I do want success, even if not on the LT, at the end of the night and to pick up a good (and cute) female traveling partner for my duration there.
And, yes, I've hobbied for 10+ yrs, and I have read tons of pages here this week, picking up clues. So, I'm not just signing on for the first time and considering my time more important than yours, and posting cluelessly. When I have successess, due to suggestions here, I'll post here (as I have done consistently with * and ECCIE. Net as nicemusic).
Thanks,
NMJoin several of the dating sites. I doubt anyone here can pick a potential girlfriend for you.
In my country of origin, politicians and others who want to avoid the inconvenience of reality also blame the mass media just as you have. Do you live in Thailand? If so, then you might see that broadly, Thai hookers fall into the two categories I described. I am not an expert, but this is what I have observed. Feel free to disagree, but I stand (though rather indifferently) behind my loose assertion.
And, yes, those guys are losers and if you and they think its fun to be an object to be displayed and the butt of the village joke then go right ahead and enjoy. I may have touched a cord and I apologize if you are one of them.
J Ride.
And P. S. : I've never heard Germans called arrogant or heard the French accused of stinking of garlic. I know you want to draw comparisons for the sake of supporting your argument, but maybe find some better known and more accurate examples the next time around.
Having watched the link it seems the "best falang husband" competition is purely a bit of fun to see who has learnt the most about Thailand and its culture, its not about being a loser or marrying a gold digger.
The sad fact here is that you presume the worst and try to insinuate the worst, when in fact it appears to be just harmless fun.
As far as Thai girls go there are no two categories, although the popular mass media attempts to protray this time and time again, in the same way they always portray Jews as stingy or Germans as arrogant or French as stinking of garlic etc.
There is a whole spectrum of girls, just as there are in any country and you can find as many gold diggers in Europe or the USA as you can in Asia.
You can also find as many "losers" in Europe or the USA, just look at the divorce rates in those area's.
Every country has everything, from losers to winners to gold diggers to prostitutes etc.
Hi,
B J here,
I would like to recommend a book I have just finished reading. It is called 'welcome to hell' by Stephen Leather. A very interesting read about a gentleman who travels to Bangkok to do a large business deal with what appears to be a reputable company, only to find out the whole thing is a con. He remains in Bangkok and eventually finds the offending guy, then it all goes wrong. He is accused of murder and spends a few years in a Thai prison. Quite a horrific tale and well worth a look.
Another good experience I had was last Sunday night. I had a day off on Monday so after watching football in the sports academy, above thermae, I took a stroll along to Baccara in Soi cowboy. It was already late so I did not waste any time in selecting a very nice lady to bar fine. We had a few drinks and as the bar was closing took the fairly short walk back to my place.
She was a very cute looker with a mole on the left side of her nose, no more than 5 feet 2 in height with a slight curl to her hair, small breasts (but I have never been that concerned with that aspect) and an amazing figure.
She suggested a shower together which was very nice and did not waste any time afterwards. Very attentive and experienced. I did the customary muff dive which got her screaming like a banshee and turned me on into the bargain. After that she was happy to let me lick her all over then turned me onto my back and gave me an extremely slow and enjoyable BJ, there is something very nice about watching your cock disappear into such a small mouth. I allowed her to do this for as long as I could (any longer and it would have been all over). On went the condom and she started on top. This was an experienced lady and thankfully she gave the type of service designed to please and not the 'get it over with as quick as possible'. We changed positions several times and finished off in the doggy position.
Very good experience I have to say and would recommend her to any forum readers. I slept with a big grin that night.
Ciao, BJ
December 20, 2011.
Protect Yourself from Intrusive Laptop and Phone Searches at the USA Border.
EFF's New Guide Helps Travelers Defend Their Data Privacy.
San Francisco. Anytime you travel internationally, you risk a broad, invasive search of your laptop, phone, and other digital devices. Including the copying of your data and seizing of your property for an indefinite time. To help travelers protect themselves and their private information during the busy holiday travel period, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) released a new report today with important guidance for safeguarding your personal data at the U. S border.
Thanks to protections enshrined in the USA Constitution, the government generally can't snoop through your laptop for no reason. But the federal government claims those privacy protections don't cover travelers at the USA border, allowing agents to take an electronic device, search through all the files, and keep it for further scrutiny. Without any suspicion of wrongdoing whatsoever. For business travelers, that could expose sensitive information like trade secrets, doctor-patient and attorney-client communications, and research and business strategies. For others, the data at risk includes personal health histories, financial records, and private messages and photos of family and friends. EFF's new report,"Defending Privacy at the USA Border: A Guide for Travelers Carrying Digital Devices," outlines potential ways to protect that private information, including minimizing the data you carry with you and employing encryption.
https://www.eff.org/press/releases/protect-yourself-intrusive-laptop-and-phone-searches-us-border
For Defending Privacy at the USA Border: A Guide for Travelers Carrying Digital Devices:
https://www.eff.org/wp/defending-privacy-us-border-guide-travelers-carrying-digital-devices
To take the border privacy quiz: https://www.eff.org/pages/border-search-quiz
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Join several of the dating sites. I doubt anyone here can pick a potential girlfriend for you.Unless someone has a sister to offer, still a virgin as he tried her himself. Available for a good bargain, of course.
December 20, 2011.
Protect Yourself from Intrusive Laptop and Phone Searches at the USA Border.
EFF's New Guide Helps Travelers Defend Their Data Privacy.
San Francisco. Anytime you travel internationally, you risk a broad, invasive search of your laptop, phone, and other digital devices. Including the copying of your data and seizing of your property for an indefinite time. To help travelers protect themselves and their private information during the busy holiday travel period, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) released a new report today with important guidance for safeguarding your personal data at the U. S border.
Thanks to protections enshrined in the USA Constitution, the government generally can't snoop through your laptop for no reason. But the federal government claims those privacy protections don't cover travelers at the USA border, allowing agents to take an electronic device, search through all the files, and keep it for further scrutiny. Without any suspicion of wrongdoing whatsoever. For business travelers, that could expose sensitive information like trade secrets, doctor-patient and attorney-client communications, and research and business strategies. For others, the data at risk includes personal health histories, financial records, and private messages and photos of family and friends. EFF's new report,"Defending Privacy at the USA Border: A Guide for Travelers Carrying Digital Devices," outlines potential ways to protect that private information, including minimizing the data you carry with you and employing encryption.
https://www.eff.org/press/releases/protect-yourself-intrusive-laptop-and-phone-searches-us-border
For Defending Privacy at the USA Border: A Guide for Travelers Carrying Digital Devices:
https://www.eff.org/wp/defending-privacy-us-border-guide-travelers-carrying-digital-devices
To take the border privacy quiz:
https://www.eff.org/pages/border-search-quiz
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http://lists.etskywarn.net/mailman/listinfo/medianewsWhy did you post this? Everyone knows that our laptops, cameras and other electronic devices can be searched while traveling. Just like they search our bags and bodies. This isn't just the USA, this is everywhere. Thailand included.
LittleBigMan
12-23-11, 11:24
Why?
Some people think that they are losing their freedom, but this is reality after 9/11! Politician since Obama was elected talk about the lost of their constitution rights and are using it for the last few years for political reasons. The Tea party jump all over this like it happen yesterday.
Regardless of the law I look at it like if you got nothing to hide why worry about it. I live in S. F. And having been flying in and out for years even with a record and being on probation I never once got search. Same question each time and I give them the same answer. Get the green okay on my question form.
Out of principal I highly suggest no one take this too serious and cite the law and question them as to why they are searching you or your stuff. Meaning don't cop a attitude! In the end you just don't have the power and unless you like stripping and bending over for them in the back believe it or not they actually have jail cells.
Aside from the long lines at times I have no problems with getting search... I even ask if I can get the body scan... last time out I did raise my hands and smile and let out a big loud gas bomb. I guy next wasn't too happy with the smell!
LBM
Why?
Some people think that they are losing their freedom, but this is reality after 9/11! Politician since Obama was elected talk about the lost of their constitution rights and are using it for the last few years for political reasons. The Tea party jump all over this like it happen yesterday.
Regardless of the law I look at it like if you got nothing to hide why worry about it. I live in S. F. And having been flying in and out for years even with a record and being on probation I never once got search. Same question each time and I give them the same answer. Get the green okay on my question form.
Out of principal I highly suggest no one take this too serious and cite the law and question them as to why they are searching you or your stuff. Meaning don't cop a attitude! In the end you just don't have the power and unless you like stripping and bending over for them in the back believe it or not they actually have jail cells.
Aside from the long lines at times I have no problems with getting search. I even ask if I can get the body scan. Last time out I did raise my hands and smile and let out a big loud gas bomb. I guy next wasn't too happy with the smell!
LBMI always try to be a courteous as possible at border crossings, no reason to get yourself grilled, just because you are irritated.
All you have to do is buy some cloud storage and you don't have to worry about keeping stuff on your laptop. I paid like $100 for 100GB for 5 years. I never have to worry about it, but you can get space by the month for around $3 if you don't want to pay it all the time. For those prices why risk being caught with your pictures. I mean even if nothing else happens you are probably going to lose your pictures.
Why?
Some people think that they are losing their freedom, but this is reality after 9/11! Politician since Obama was elected talk about the lost of their constitution rights and are using it for the last few years for political reasons. The Tea party jump all over this like it happen yesterday.
Regardless of the law I look at it like if you got nothing to hide why worry about it. I live in S. F. And having been flying in and out for years even with a record and being on probation I never once got search. Same question each time and I give them the same answer. Get the green okay on my question form.
Out of principal I highly suggest no one take this too serious and cite the law and question them as to why they are searching you or your stuff. Meaning don't cop a attitude! In the end you just don't have the power and unless you like stripping and bending over for them in the back believe it or not they actually have jail cells.
Aside from the long lines at times I have no problems with getting search. I even ask if I can get the body scan. Last time out I did raise my hands and smile and let out a big loud gas bomb. I guy next wasn't too happy with the smell!
LBM
I always try to be a courteous as possible at border crossings, no reason to get yourself grilled, just because you are irritated.
All you have to do is buy some cloud storage and you don't have to worry about keeping stuff on your laptop. I paid like $100 for 100GB for 5 years. I never have to worry about it, but you can get space by the month for around $3 if you don't want to pay it all the time. For those prices why risk being caught with your pictures. I mean even if nothing else happens you are probably going to lose your pictures.You guys are both right. It seems most people don't even realize this has been the reality worldwide for years now and it actually has nothing to do with Obama or anything like that. Internet is monitored, phone calls are monitored, we are searched when traveling, our bags are scanned all in the name of security. Nvslim's post seems to be almost fear mongering and portrays this as some grand conspiracy in the USA but any country can and will search you upon entering and exiting. Just make sure that you are following all the rules and no harm will come of you.
You guys are both right. It seems most people don't even realize this has been the reality worldwide for years now and it actually has nothing to do with Obama or anything like that. Internet is monitored, phone calls are monitored, we are searched when traveling, our bags are scanned all in the name of security. Nvslim's post seems to be almost fear mongering and portrays this as some grand conspiracy in the USA but any country can and will search you upon entering and exiting. Just make sure that you are following all the rules and no harm will come of you.Yeah, you guys are all right; we should all just let the airport gestapo thugs do whatever they want whenever they want to us and never complain about it because at the bottom line we're just a bunch of sheep who aren't entitled to any rights since 9/11. The war on terror has already been won by the terrorists. Just let them take your compter, snoop through it, and give it back whenever they feel like it. Don't take any precautions with your data even if you have something to hide. Just bend over, spread your cheeks and enjoy the experience.
Yeah, you guys are all right; we should all just let the airport gestapo thugs do whatever they want whenever they want to us and never complain about it because at the bottom line we're just a bunch of sheep who aren't entitled to any rights since 9/11. The war on terror has already been won by the terrorists. Just let them take your compter, snoop through it, and give it back whenever they feel like it. Don't take any precautions with your data even if you have something to hide. Just bend over, spread your cheeks and enjoy the experience.Don't forget to take some lube. ;)
Surf Looker
12-23-11, 14:22
I know. Quality and cheap don't go together but where is a good place to get suits in Bangkok and quick turnaournd time like next day.
Saw some ad for "Jas Clothing"
Yeah, you guys are all right; we should all just let the airport gestapo thugs do whatever they want whenever they want to us and never complain about it because at the bottom line we're just a bunch of sheep who aren't entitled to any rights since 9/11. The war on terror has already been won by the terrorists. Just let them take your compter, snoop through it, and give it back whenever they feel like it. Don't take any precautions with your data even if you have something to hide. Just bend over, spread your cheeks and enjoy the experience.LOL. You totally took that the wrong way. I'm not saying we don't have rights. My point was that his post made it seem like this was some kind of new event taking place only in the US. Which just isn't true obviously. Cheers.
Crazy4Thai
12-23-11, 15:42
Yeah, you guys are all right; we should all just let the airport gestapo thugs do whatever they want whenever they want to us and never complain about it because at the bottom line we're just a bunch of sheep who aren't entitled to any rights since 9/11. The war on terror has already been won by the terrorists. Just let them take your compter, snoop through it, and give it back whenever they feel like it. Don't take any precautions with your data even if you have something to hide. Just bend over, spread your cheeks and enjoy the experience.Yeah, on my first trip back to the US in 5 years this past summer, I forgot to take my shaving cream out of my carry on on a domestic flight. The TSA guy was all over it and acted like he really did something. I thanked him for protecting America and winning that fucking war on terror. He thought I was being sarcastic though. I'm going back home when the shootin' starts.
Mr Enternational
12-24-11, 00:37
Regardless of the law I look at it like if you got nothing to hide why worry about it. I live in S. F. And having been flying in and out for years even with a record and being on probation I never once got search. Same question each time and I give them the same answer. Get the green okay on my question form.
Out of principal I highly suggest no one take this too serious and cite the law and question them as to why they are searching you or your stuff. Meaning don't cop a attitude! In the end you just don't have the power and unless you like stripping and bending over for them in the back believe it or not they actually have jail cells.
Aside from the long lines at times I have no problems with getting search. I even ask if I can get the body scan. Last time out I did raise my hands and smile and let out a big loud gas bomb. I guy next wasn't too happy with the smell!
LBMI don't get it either. Out of countless trips around the world the only time my bag has ever been searched was once when I came from Bogota to New York. I have Global Entry and go to the machine for immigration. But when I approached customs an agent caught up to me and told me to hold my horses. She took everything out of my bag and poked the plastic parts inside with a screwdriver. She was looking for drugs. I had many bootleg DVDs that she did not even mention. She told me to turn my computer on to be sure that it works, but as soon as the welcome screen popped up I was allowed to turn it off. I have never witnessed them searching people's files. Other times when I have declared having crocodile goods I have been sent to agriculture to run my suitcase through the machine. Last time the guy told me I did not have to declare for the couple of items that I had. (And mind you that time I did have 2 boxes (50ct/box) of Kamagra Jelly in the same bag.)
A couple of months ago coming back from Tijuana, Mexico into San Diego, USA the agent asked what I was doing in Mexico. I looked and him and said,"Fucking them hoes." He said okay, go ahead.
Not to say it does not happen, but with my countless experiences with immigration and customs, I think people are making mountains out of molehills with these posts.
Be very careful what websites you read from inside Thailand now.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/272260/centre-starts-monitoring-lese-majeste
Just let them take your compter, snoop through it, and give it back whenever they feel like it. Don't take any precautions with your data even if you have something to hide. Just bend over, spread your cheeks and enjoy the experience.If you don't want to take it bending over read this:
https://www.eff.org/document/defending-privacy-us-border-guide-travelers-carrying-digital-devices
Yeah, on my first trip back to the US in 5 years this past summer, I forgot to take my shaving cream out of my carry on on a domestic flight. The TSA guy was all over it and acted like he really did something. I thanked him for protecting America and winning that fucking war on terror. He thought I was being sarcastic though. I'm going back home when the shootin' starts.Man I hear what you say. I am a fairly frequent business traveler. I must admit that passing through US Customs and dealing with TSA people is one of the most unpleasant activities involved in travel. These people are hardly the best ambassadors for the good old friendly US of A!
Man I hear what you say. I am a fairly frequent business traveler. I must admit that passing through US Customs and dealing with TSA people is one of the most unpleasant activities involved in travel. These people are hardly the best ambassadors for the good old friendly US of A!LAX is the worst I think in the world. Coming into the United international terminal is like walking into a Russian Goolag. Depressing and sterile.
Tratnguyen1
12-24-11, 18:04
Gents,
I am not sure that I am the Best ambassador of the USA. In the world
Because I just try to present the fact here.
Let 's see the LAX immigations and Custom services first. Bear in mind,
I appreciate the Homeland Security works for the safety and beyond.
However, quite often, It takes a long time to get through the Immigrations
Lines even for a Good USA citizen and it is true every time I travel oversea.
Now, I talk about my experiences with the Thai's Immigrations & Custom here.
It is usually take me about 15minutes at the immigration counter and that
With another 15min. At baggages claim to collect my things.
Another important things are Thai's Airports people very friendly and
Understand the frequent visitors like me with many wet Stamps
In and out BKK do make sense for a quick pass on my USA. Passport.
So, it is a very pleasant to land at Bangkok Airport.
You may get through the LAX in 2 hours vs only 30minutes in Bangkok.
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I don't get it either. Out of countless trips around the world the only time my bag has ever been searched was once when I came from Bogota to New York.In 5 trips returning to Canada I got searched and interogated every time but one. This involves one to three hours after a long trip in which I may have had little sleep, and am very tired. I have come to expect that I'll be chosen for these searches which do not appear to be random in my case. So now I travel light with just a carry on backpack since it takes them less time to go through than an additional suitcase. I can imagine being there all night if I carried a PC laptop and they felt like going through it thoroughly, with too much time on their hands. One time I was even interogated at the take off terminal. Is it they pick on single guys returning from LOS, or is it just me? No way I'd tell them I was there fucking hoes, especially if it was a woman!
If you don't want to take it bending over read this:
https://www.eff.org/document/defending-privacy-us-border-guide-travelers-carrying-digital-devicesThanks, Fon Tok!
Excellent advice; read it cover to cover and bookmarked the site.
Tratnguyen1
12-25-11, 14:26
LAX is the worst I think in the world. Coming into the United international terminal is like walking into a Russian Goolag. Depressing and sterile.Gents,
One thing that I like BKK Suvarnabhum airports the building is very new architectural beatiful.
The LAX looks more ancient and tired
LittleBigMan
12-25-11, 15:28
These rules and regulations are just a guideline that are pretty much just words and have no real application. No one wants to loose their freedom but the real truth we have been loosing them even before 9/11. When it comes to the airport I know a thing or two and will share them with you along with some others. After 9/11, the airlines were tanking and even with guys like myself with 25 years were on the edge of loosing their jobs. I consider and was offered jobs with TSA, Air Marshalls etc. But decided since I needed the flexibility of taking time off to travel to Thailand and didn't want to start over I decided to stick it out.
After 9/11 regardless of the guidelines they came up with a thing call Patriot Act. In security meetings they use to talk about don't worry about these guidelines that if the shit hits the fan we apply the ACT! It will trump that B. S. That pretty came from a Regional Security Adminitrator that came to brief us every quarter. The truth of the matter is aside from lawyers and someone with lots of money and power if they get you in a room the majority of us wouldn't know what to do? How many of you have been arrested? When the cops and prosecutor want the more you cry the more charges they pile on top of you and there isn't a damn thing you could do. They can break your arm and then just say it was a accident while trying to arrest you. If you don't know by now let me wake you guys up? There is no such thing as Innocent until proven guilty! Majority of us would have to spend our life savings to prove that the charges are false. Until you have been in a situation like that regardless of all the macho and bravado talk about rights they couldn't care less. They will bury a normal guy by putting you through the grinder of the justice system. Right Daddy?
We have a on going war that will never end most likely in our lifetime? It will bankrupt our country before Social Security and Medicare and that is the war on terrorism. After 9/11 they created the largest agency of them all. TSA, stands for Thousand standing around! Aside from the handful of top notch law enforcement people running the agency the rest are made up of former airline station manager and personnel because they know the airline and how the airports are operated. In the west coast some of the top guys particularly in California were my old station managers and supervisors. And to be honest they were good guys but I wouldn't allow them to even carry my jock strap! And now they are responsible for our safety in the sky. In the end, the airport is impossible to defend everyone is grasping for straw as the experts have spoken they react rather than being proactive. Even with the security measures today I can give you over a dozen ways to get in the airport or points where they can do some damage to the aircrafts.
Prior to 9/11, the airlines were responsible for their own security and when it came to the airlines what was important was the financial bottom line and that was cost. Remember the complaints about the workers can't speaking English. Well now they do speak much better and the government might not say it but what they are doing is just appearances that they know what to do and inconvienances you while you travel is one of the method that you are safe? Sure some of these employees let it get to their heads and I have dealt with them before I left. Put on that uniform and now they think they are FBI, if you think the TSA is bad upstairs you haven't dealt with the other thousands below the surface scanning and going through your bags. How many of you got you bags open and a note left inside? At every airport since 9/11 there are billions of dollars of scanning equipment below the airport departure buildings I wish I had known to buy stock in these companies they are racking up the bucks on the American taxpayer because its is a impossible task. The government keeps buying and trying!
A good friend who worked for a airline for 30 years got out in time and went to customs at SFO, I've had lunch with him on a regular bases when I'm home and he has changed the uniform and power gets to them. Only a generalization but ever noticed all the Asians Immigration officier on the West coast? I'm Asian and I even think they take the job way too serious and the rest seems to all a attitude that if you give me a hard time I will bent your ass over? My buddy has told me they would never tell you but majority of the B. S. Rules they have is to profile the individual. When it comes to Bangkok this destination has always been because of the kiddie fuckers and drugs. They will have a simple conversation or ask you a question just to feel you out to make you nervous. I have been in the back of their holding area and you would be amased as to the B. S. That people try to bring in and many of the offender are businessmen.
As for being easy to get into Bangkok, they haven't been attacked that is just common sense. They are just going through the motion until they get bombed by the muslim down south and then that will change it will be a matter of time if the yellow don't take over the airport again. I don't like loosing my freedom just like the rest of you but when it comes to the airport security it just doesn't bother me as much as the rest of you and its not because I like bending over. I take a firm belief that if you put yourself in a position for something to happen most likely it will?
Now don't get me wrong I'm one to speak up but everyone needs to pick and choose their battles? For you retirees each year you go through the process at the Immigration office for your visa like a good old boy. Every 90 days, you report grab a number and sit quietly waiting your turn watching the officier push everyone around but you do it and bend over for the Thais so that you can get yours. When you get stopped for no reason aside from being a farang on a motorbike you pay and bend over whether you like it or not! I came back to Thailand in a trip in July, the immigration officiers were moving all the Chinese tour groups through the Thai national lines while everyone else had to wait for 45 minutes. I was pissed and was going to give the officiers a peace of my mind until I realized I was now in Thailand so I kept my mouth shut because was it worth them getting them mad and screwing with my visa. I kept my mouth shut and took it like a man?
In the end, whether its LAX, SFO, HNL, you can talk all the macho bravado and loosing your rights and I say get over it. What is the hurry you went to Thailand for the cheap pussy there isn't anything cheap in the USA so just be glad the wait is shorter when you return to Thailand!
Its part of travel now so get use to it! And I'm slowly becoming a supporter of Ron Paul?
LBM,
Mr Enternational
12-25-11, 18:23
If you don't know by now let me wake you guys up? There is no such thing as Innocent until proven guilty! Majority of us would have to spend our life savings to prove that the charges are false. Until you have been in a situation like that regardless of all the macho and bravado talk about rights they couldn't care less. They will bury a normal guy by putting you through the grinder of the justice system.No such thing as innocent until proven guilty? You don't have to tell me about that. Once I went to court for a traffic ticket (traffic signal violation) and I said I was not guilty. They said I would be taken directly to jail to be processed. For being NOT guilty? I quickly changed my plea to guilty instead of having to go to jail, made the arrangements to pay the fine, and left the courthouse.
Another time it was a stop sign violation at 5am at a spot in my neighborhood where I know the cops always sit. I went to trial on that. I had all my ducks in a row. I asked the cop why he sat in that spot. He said his boss tells him to sit there because people are out jogging and kids are walking to school. At 5am? Did I mention it was raining that morning! I asked how many people he saw out that morning jogging or how many kids walking to school. The prosecutor objected to my question. Sustained. Being that the judge, prosecutor, and police basically work together everyday and are essentially coworkers of course I was found guilty. I had to pay $600 and do 40 hours community service for thinking I wanted to be innocent. If I would have just gone ahead and admitted guilt in the first place then I would have only had to pay $110.
Another incident happened when I was a freshman at the university. A girl said that I stole her electronic organizer. This is when they first came out. She came up to my job harassing me and my manager kicked her off the premises. The next day was Saturday and I went to the police station to see what could be done. They told me nothing could be done. The following Tuesday I was getting out of the shower in my dorm and someone informed me that campus security was looking for me. I got dressed and went to see what they wanted. They ushered me into a back room. There were two city detectives there and the first thing they said to me was,"You have the right to remain silent..." I was like what the fuck dude. Then they started questioning me trying to trick me into saying that I stole it. They were getting nowhere so they gave me a citation to appear in court on a certain date. So I paid a lawyer $600 (actually it was my dad who paid) and went to the first court date and the girl said I stole it and I said I didn't. The judge said this must go to trial. Huh? What the hell are we at now? It was pre-trial. $600 lawyer fee down the tubes. I had to go to jail for 8 hours to be processed.
When my court date finally came the girl did not show. Well the prosecutor thought there was enough evidence to change it to another date in order to allow the girl to show up. What evidence? It was my word against hers. No witnesses or anything. When the next date came she didn't show up again. They said forget it, you can go home now. 20 years and 10 months later that shit is still on my record. Every time I have wanted to do anything I have had to get a freaking certified copy saying it was thrown out of court. And you are going to tell me there is a such thing as innocent until proven guilty. HELL NO it ain't. They will put you through so much shit and make you pay so much money with lawyers and such if you think you want to be not guilty that it is just much less of a hassle and costs a lot less to just say you were guilty in the first place.
No such thing as innocent until proven guilty? You don't have to tell me about that.Sir, in your story there are sufficient details to identify you as all is kept in archives. What you have been stating and implying is an offense to a liberal and democrat System who has the fellow citizens as a priority. You have been accusing the system to be unfair and against your rights. As such is impossible in the System, you are charged of offence to the System. Are you pleading guilty or non guilty?
Just kidding of course and I hear what you say. Yours are examples of everyday life.
no such thing as innocent until proven guilty? you don't have to tell me about that. once i went to court for a traffic ticket (traffic signal violation) and i said i was not guilty. they said i would be taken directly to jail to be processed. for being not guilty? i quickly changed my plea to guilty instead of having to go to jail, made the arrangements to pay the fine, and left the courthouse.hahahaha! now you know that, in america, it's easier to beat a first degree murder rap than a speeding ticket.
lbm is right that it just doesn't pay to complain about the gestapo thugs while they're abusing your rights with their fingers up your ass. you might as well be barking at the moon. the united police states of america is now a fact of life.
LittleBigMan
12-26-11, 03:13
Mr. E,
The reason the lady statue outside the courthouse has a blindfold? When you go to the court for the first time for a traffic ticket and go through the process you realize things are somewhat backwards. I once had a guy pull a gun on me when I told him he couldn't park in my driveway. I backed off and told him okay when he started to back out of the driveway taking his eyes off me I pull out my Chinese swore and placed it on his throat. A bystander started yelling and I got arrested and booked when I show up to court the coward never showed up. Today it still on my record along with all the other bullshit I was accused of.
When you live or grow up in a big city shit happens. Daddy07 grew up in a small cow town and lived a charm life and continues to live that charm life as the King of Jomtien in his highrise penthouse condo. I envy this guy because he got that Garfield smile on his face day in and day out! If I don't have a choice I rather have a finger up my ass than a big stick it is easier to take. Talking about fingers up the butt its time for that oil massage.
LBM
Mr. E,
The reason the lady statue outside the courthouse has a blindfold? When you go to the court for the first time for a traffic ticket and go through the process you realize things are somewhat backwards. I once had a guy pull a gun on me when I told him he couldn't park in my driveway. I backed off and told him okay when he started to back out of the driveway taking his eyes off me I pull out my Chinese swore and placed it on his throat. A bystander started yelling and I got arrested and booked when I show up to court the coward never showed up. Today it still on my record along with all the other bullshit I was accused of.
When you live or grow up in a big city shit happens. Daddy07 grew up in a small cow town and lived a charm life and continues to live that charm life as the King of Jomtien in his highrise penthouse condo. I envy this guy because he got that Garfield smile on his face day in and day out! If I don't have a choice I rather have a finger up my ass than a big stick it is easier to take. Talking about fingers up the butt its time for that oil massage.
LBMSorry, had to laugh at this one. Don't know many people that walk around their driveway with a Chinese sword. I am sure going to jail was not funny. Was it a Jian or Dao sword?
Tratnguyen1
12-26-11, 04:46
Gents,
I always appreciate the hard work of TSA and Home land security departments.
Yes, things change for sure after 9/11. I really Don't mind to stand inline at LAX
For one hour Immigarions counters. However, the TSA people can have the
Faster ways to clear USA citizen with a clean records. I know the TSA having
More than enough agents to carry out the task. For travelers coming back
From Thailand mongering trip, that is None of other people.
Business to ask and check.
We should have the freedom to travel and mind own things.
Still, I always feel the Thai's immigrants officers work much more efficiently.
And more pleantly to deal with eventhough with USA. Passport holder.
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LittleBigMan
12-26-11, 04:51
Sorry, had to laugh at this one. Don't know many people that walk around their driveway with a Chinese sword. I am sure going to jail was not funny. Was it a Jian or Dao sword?When you are young it is true one is dumb and full of cum? It was a chinese war Dao sword I use to keep in the doorway. Where I grew up drunks came to the area and park constantly in our driveway / alley and left for the clubs. My brother and I use to come out and slice up all the tires and watch them drive away drunk with their flats.
LBM
Let's stop the madness and get back to what really matters.
Hi all. Does anyone know the latest on buying the above vitamins in BKK? I have heard that they are available in the stalls along Suk at night, but there is a chance they will be fake.
What are the drug stores closest to Asoke which will have these vitamins, and what would be the price I expect to pay? Does buying from a pharmacy mitigate against the risk of getting fakes?
Thanks heaps.
Styk.
Hi all. Does anyone know the latest on buying the above vitamins in BKK? I have heard that they are available in the stalls along Suk at night, but there is a chance they will be fake.
What are the drug stores closest to Asoke which will have these vitamins, and what would be the price I expect to pay? Does buying from a pharmacy mitigate against the risk of getting fakes?
Thanks heaps.
Styk.Go to Chula Pharmacy on Rama IV Road. Across from Chulalongkorn Hospital (just down from the Crowne Plaza Hotel). No fakes there.
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