Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[EihTooms]

With all due respect ET for me this is not about whether you personally are a danger to your lady going BB, most likely tests not withstanding you are not. No the conversation is about the risks in going BB with somebody whose health situation is unknown. Having BB with somebody who is not a carrier of an STI other than the risk of pregnancy also nonexistent with a vasectomy, it is safe. The danger is not in transmitting it is in contacting. You can take all the precautions, washing, checking for telltale signs etc but you can never be sure the girl is not a carrier and while nothing is guaranteed by using condoms a bad outcome is significantly reduced.

Well, I do think much of the discussion has also been about the punter putting the sex worker at risk of both unplanned pregnancy or disease (or boyfriend/husband re the girlfriend/wife) . I understand that might not be your primary concern or what you want to talk about. But I and others have been talking about that part of it as well.

True, the precautions I take cannot guarantee or assure the next girl I meet won't be riddled with disease and pass it along to me. Which can also happen even if you do wear a condom, BTW. But being circumcised certainly can reduce my catching some nasties (and my medical history would support that it probably did) and a recent blood test document can at least tell you how effective your precautions have been through decades of practicing them, to determine whether or not they have been working and are worth continuing.

[EihTooms]

In addition, over the long term, a typical working girl has an order of magnitude more partners than an typical punter, even if he's unusually active.

In my opinion, given the higher risk of HIV for the women, this makes a man demanding BBFS from a sex worker selfish and borderline abusive. Sure, there's usually semi-informed consent, but regardless of that, condoms are such an exceedingly simple solution that reduce the risk to the girl from substantial to negligible.

Even if I'm fully capable of convincing someone to voluntarily cross the street blindfolded for money, should I really be doing that?

Sure, if the only thing accomplished in convincing someone to voluntarily cross the street blind-folded was for the money (them) and for the sadistic thrill of watching it (you), then the exchange would be abnormal and puzzling why many would bother. But since it turns out this kind of "street crossing" provides tremendous intrinsically natural pleasure for at least one party, often for both, and in many cases more than just some money but a significant amount of money for the other party, one can now understand why that kind of "street crossing" is done countless times every day and every hour of every day.

Let's say in your "selfish and borderline abuse by blind-folded street crossing" analogy that my strongly recommended circumcision + vasectomy + recent negative test document precautions add looking both ways up and down the street right before donning the blindfold to determine there are no cars on the street as far as the eye can see, not even a parked one, before stepping off the curb. Ok, we'll allow for that one-in-a-million chance some speed racer going 200 MPH might spin out of control and out of nowhere around the corner about the time we get half-way across that street, just to give a nod to nothing being perfect. I submit a street crossing after taking that precaution, blind-folded, even at the intersection of Sukhumvit and Asok, is very likely safer than crossing the street at Sukhumvit and Asok without a blind-fold during normal traffic conditions.

Then the topic also begs the question; why not do both or all of the above? If you're so concerned about not being selfish or abusive regarding putting a sex worker, a sometimes girlfriend or a booty call at risk of disease or unwanted pregnancy even if you try to use a condom every time, why stop at merely slipping on a condom when it is well-known that in actual, real-world practice and not theoretical or hypothetical white-coated scientists in a sterile lab environment conditions, condoms can and do fail to provide anything near 100% effectiveness? Why not also get circumcised, get a vasectomy and always have a very recent negative blood check document (for at least a couple of biggies) from a qualified clinic in your possession before proceeding with that "street crossing"? Especially since it is as well-known as the data on condom use under real world conditions that establishing those latter precautions are also very effective in avoiding unwanted pregnancy and transmission of disease.

The irony is my (and others) circumcision, vasectomy and blood check procedures WERE performed in approximate white-coated scientists in sterile lab environment conditions while the real world application of a condom, especially with regard to punters and sex workers, is all too often performed under conditions that are a chaotic mess. Not least of which being both parties involved in the procedure have likely had as many as 12-15 alcoholic beverages in the 5-6 hours leading up to the procedure and at least one of the two are either consciously or subconsciously rooting for the procedure to fail to be completed or not even attempted at all.

[MonkeyPaw]

That has been done (not by me) and nobody has had an unkind word about him even if his style is not their style. I remember The Paw from another board years ago and he operated the same way. Controversial but interesting. I would be happy to buy him a drink or three and watch him in action if the opportunity arose.

Maybe it's because I lived near Hollywood but I always appreciate a good story whether it is fact or fiction.

Haha. So you remember me gaining national attention with my story about the runaway girls? Haha. So funny! I started contributing to ISG when I started mongering internationally. I figure I took valuable information by lurking, so it was fair I gave back to ISG with my reports. I keep telling folks I am like God when it comes to finding UTRs (under the radar) gems. Below is how many felt about me in the past. I make ISG my home now and encourage other lurkers to subscribe and contribute.

[Allover]

Why don't the well respected senior members & MP just meet up and settle this topic once and for all?

That has been done (not by me) and nobody has had an unkind word about him even if his style is not their style. I remember The Paw from another board years ago and he operated the same way. Controversial but interesting. I would be happy to buy him a drink or three and watch him in action if the opportunity arose.

Maybe it's because I lived near Hollywood but I always appreciate a good story whether it is fact or fiction.

[PedroMorales]

"A Story About Licking Leaking Lek"..

Are the boobs natural? How many hookers has Teddy Bear bonked now? Has he been tested?

[Banana Boi]

Wait a second! Am I the chosen one now after MP?

OMG too funny. That made my day.

[Mogwai]

Wait a second! Am I the chosen one now after MP? I must be blessed indeed.

Enjoy it while it lasts, LOL.

[Blanquiceleste]

Call it what you like but I just cannot stand trolls and other guys that clutter up the forum with all kinds of BS.

Last time I checked, there was no sheriff around these parts. And what you call BS may actually be valuable information to many. So then, who is the one misleading the noobs?

Talking about seniors behind a keyboard: recently you have posted in threads under Thailand, Singapore, Vietnam, Indonesia, China, Cambodia and The Philippines. And that's just September! It takes quite some time to keep up with the posts in all those countries and write replies to them.

I have boots on ground in Asia. And my posts (barring ones on this thread) are all contributing to the intelligence on the other threads I post. Does not take that long really. Maybe an hour every day. I guess I manage my time quite well.

Wait a second! Am I the chosen one now after MP? I must be blessed indeed.

[Mogwai]

LMAO. What a lame argument. Like the forum needs a knight in shining armor to protect poor naive rookies from falling into the clutches of the vile MP.

Call it what you like but I just cannot stand trolls and other guys that clutter up the forum with all kinds of BS.

[Mogwai]

Because MP is on ground that the respected seniors are all behind a keyboard.

Talking about seniors behind a keyboard: recently you have posted in threads under Thailand, Singapore, Vietnam, Indonesia, China, Cambodia and The Philippines. And that's just September! It takes quite some time to keep up with the posts in all those countries and write replies to them.

[Blanquiceleste]

I try to avoid that by keeping my responses as short as possible and not giving him more attention than he deserves. Of course he doesn't deserve any attention at all IMO but unfortunately he gets quite a lot of attention from other BMs who seem to believe (almost) everything he's saying. Not feeding a troll only works if nobody is feeding him, so if there are people feeding him and believing him I have no choice but to stand up against him and try to do something about it.

Nevertheless I'm aware that it's most likely a waste of time. Sigh.

LMAO. What a lame argument. Like the forum needs a knight in shining armor to protect poor naive rookies from falling into the clutches of the vile MP. Me thinks someone is missing rescuing bar girls, so now resorting to rescue noobs.

[Syzygies]

Interesting comments about going bare, but rarely is discussed that the standard STD tests to NOT check for herpes! Please, especially you married guys, keep that in mind. Your lovely Thai hooker may say she is tested regularly but is she testing for HSV? Probably not.

There are various things to catch regardless of Condoms sure, however that just distracts from condoms being effective for some things. A condom that did not come off or break is unlikely to cause a pregnancy.

I agree that bare backing hookers has plenty of risks, and HSV2 is one of them, although not life threatening. The exact likelihood of catching it seems little known. Similarly for girls with pussy warts HPV, how likely to catch is that. I have felt those warts with finger in pussy on a rare occasion. I might not be keen to BBFS without learning more first. More commonly I find sponge in pussy that can cause condom tears. That is dangerous. I refuse to fuck girls with sponges normally. Can't recall the last exception. Usually can persuade them to take it out, once they finally admit it. Sponges limit penetration too much for me and feel lousy not smooth.

HSV is true is rarely tested. It is not as big a deal as made out for many, since many people did not even know they had it.

Other recover and never get another attack. These are the fortunate ones.

I have tested for it currently. Did not have it at the time. I also did a long term test, called IgG I think.

Unfortunately it did not distinguish between HSV1 (cold sores) and HSV 2 genital herpes.

My first long term test was positive.

Some time later I got another long term test and asked for HSV 2 only test. The result showed negative to HSV1 & HSV2, not what I asked for.

But seemed to indicate I never had either. This time was done by the Red Cross, previously by Ekkamai hospital I think.

The truth is you can get false positives and false negatives, so in the end, I still don't know if ever had either of them.

Seems like there is no reliable test. It is only a faint indicator. Not sure if worthwhile to get any further tests for HSV. Could be a waste of time and money.

What if I get negative again next time. Will it prove anything useful? Not really.

Never had anything that looked exactly like HSV, to my knowledge.

One doctor suggested I had a cold sore, but a skin specialist quickly refuted that and indicated.

Was a simple bacteria infection (easily treatable).

Doctors don't know much about STDs really unless they specialise in it. Normal general practitioners can have misguided education or lack of good education and experience.

One doctor tried to tell me you cannot get an STD from a BJ or from sex with a condom (or from a toilet seat) and yet, I had one, which was immediate counter evidence. So he was essentially trying to say I was lying about what encounters happened. On different occasion caught Chlamydia eye from my finger (was in pussy), so I know how easy it is to catch. Doctors should know too.

[Mogwai]

But aren't you continuously falling into MP's trap by responding?

I try to avoid that by keeping my responses as short as possible and not giving him more attention than he deserves. Of course he doesn't deserve any attention at all IMO but unfortunately he gets quite a lot of attention from other BMs who seem to believe (almost) everything he's saying. Not feeding a troll only works if nobody is feeding him, so if there are people feeding him and believing him I have no choice but to stand up against him and try to do something about it.

Nevertheless I'm aware that it's most likely a waste of time. Sigh.

[MonkeyPaw]

...It simply did not happen. I've been mongering Thailand for 26 years, 13 as a sexpat. He does have some pics yes. Did you ever notice how many of them are promo from a website?

You got me. I know when I have been caught red handed in a lie. I have to admit, I have this sick obsession about browsing through various websites showing promo pics of hot girls and then making up fantasies about them. Sometimes I would go too far and try to find other random girls that look very similar to the ones on the promo websites, and take pictures. Just so I can make myself seem more credible. But you have to admit, I do a pretty good job at finding matches that somewhat resembles the website photos. The girl below doesn't quite look 100% like the actual girl in the promo website, but still pretty close. Wouldn't you agree? I've attached both pictures so folks can compare and to show you how hard I work at trying to find similar matches. I'm not perfect. Can't always get the girls to pose for pictures. So I can only do my best. Strangely, my best sure seems slightly, but not by much, better than most on here. There was a time when posted pics on my stories and reports would often showed the number of times they have been viewed. I can honestly say, I didn't click on my own photos 200 times, so apparently I do have an audience and following that knows how read and to enjoy. And for them, it's story time again. I will need a little bit of quiet and some attention please.

"A Story About Licking Leaking Lek".

Getting to fucking a Go Go bar girl is easy. Getting to fucking a hot Go Go bar girl is harder. Now getting to fuck hot Go Go bar girl while she is still wearing her dance or club outfit is the hardest. (Actually, there is one that is more difficult. Fucking a hot Go Go bar girl while "you" are wearing her dance outfit, might be impossible. But I rather not know). Now on with the story of Leaking Lek. It is rumored on somewhere on Walking Street is a girl who gets off on the pleasures of her own hands and is able to gush. She does this on request or just for the hell of it because she wants to. Many have gone in search of her hoping to quench their own thirst for the nectar that flows from her love mound. Because as legend tells it, there are powers, like eternal youth, gained from its consumption. This is a story in search of this mythical nymph named Lek. For those of you who honestly get bored of your own routine when it comes to sex. Variety is the spice of life, but sometimes even that gets boring, same routine with a different girl. How many of us pay attention to ourselves when it comes to what we do in the bedroom? I know I do. I try to change it up, force the issue. But 300 different girls a year? I welcome the opportunity when a girl does something to me "out of the blue" that makes me go "what the fuck?" It's called kink and it can be your best friend when it comes to P4 P. Now of course, this story is only fantasy as others may have suggested many of stories are. But if for some reason, anybody gets the balls to seek the truth and experience "jewel" in this story. There is only one place on Walking Street that you may perhaps find this little "gem. " I'm sure the witty and experienced to Pattaya will be able to follow the "15" step treasure map to her.

After showering, Lek put on the same sexy outfit she dances in, which accentuated her nice body and I couldn't keep my eyes off her amazing tits and ass. She knows how to carry herself and is clean. Lek smells delicious and has a very sexy voice that got me rock hard instantly. She climbed on the bed and began with some soft and very sensual kissing with tongue. Her moaning and passion into kissing is perfect. Loved sucking on her lips and tongue! She is extremely responsive to hands and mouth on her tits. She loves her tits being groped and massaged while sucking and teasing her nipples. Light to deep sucking on her delicious nipples makes her squirm and she strokes me while doing it. I soon lay her back and gently removed her bottoms and start kissing and licking all around her kitty, in her inner thighs, and outer lips. Then dive my tongue deep into her and sucked on her clit. While tongue fucking the most delicious kitty have tasted in awhile, I thought. Why does it taste so yummy? She used this strawberry lube to fill her pussy so it tastes like the candy given after Sunday church. She thoroughly gets into DATY, grinding her hips upwards as she shoves her pussy into my mouth. Seriously, I felt as she was fucking my mouth with her pussy. I never, in my life, felt my mouth being abused by a pussy like that before. It was as if I was getting punished. If they had a emergency 911 phone number just for mouth abuse, I would have called it. I have bruises around my lips to show for. Lek moans, shakes, gets so wet and loved having her clit sucked. I had a finger in her hitting her spot and bringing to brink of orgasm. That's when I clamped my mouth on her kitty and suck her clit good til she came hard. I didn't let her delicious juice escape as she trembled. I was already hot and sweaty for working so hard. But I knew I had to I keep going and she knew that I was not playing about my skill for eating pussy. Tonight she learned that hungry Monkeypaw is a dangerous Monkeypaw.

Soon she was repaying me with such a deep and passionate thankful BBBJ in which she sucked on my dick so hard. I thought l had barfined a vacuum cleaner, not a girl. Her mouth was so hot and wet. Plus the way she went up and down on the shaft while using her tongue on it and flickering the tip was amazing. It was a sight to see this girl with dick in her mouth. WOW! Mmmm. It was not long before I had the urge to taste her again. I wasn't full from my last meal of her shaved pussy. I pulled her hair back to get her mouth off my dick and told her to flip around, suck my cock, while she was spreading her ass to open up that pussy for chow time. Pretty soon had her in 69 so I could suck on her pussy more while she worked her mouth on my dick with no hands. She lost concentration and had to stop sucking while my tongue engulfed that wet pussy. Every time her hands would release her ass cheeks to stop my cock from driving deeper in her mouth, I had her put them back to keep that ass open. She struggled for the next 10 minutes. She then said she needed my dick, and I was ready to fuck. A cover was applied and she slid that magnificent glove of a kitty onto me and was riding deep, slow, and passionately on me while gripping my chest. I squeezed her ass deeper onto me while I sucked her big tits. She then did something amazing. She raised up over me and leaned back, shoved fingers into her pussy. Frantically she shoved one and then another deep into her pussy. Her juices were leaking all over her fingers and even down the inside of her thighs. This is why I call her Leaking Lek. Sliding slowly downward, she laid on the bed, drew her knees up and spread her thighs wide so she could drive her fingers deeper in her shaved * I watched as she plunged two, and then three fingers into her sloppy pussy, rapidly finger fucking herself endlessly, until she let out a loud shriek and had a second orgasm. She thrashed about as her juices squirted all over the bed. It sprayed on me, on her, and on my teddy bear like Christmas rain.

For the next few seconds, she laid there trembling, as if she was left outside in the cold. It looked kind of weird. She looked as if she was convulsing like from seizure. She told me, no more, I cum too much. I was thinking. What about me? Monkeypaw gets no love? That's when Monkeypaw went all selfish because this shit wasn't fair. Leaking Lek was trying to pull a fast one. I then open her legs wide, mounted her, and shoved my cock deep in with a single thrust. I held her arms while pounding that ass missionary and deep into pussy, making her kitty soaked, while my boys smacked those pussy lips. She squirmed, whimpered, moaned, screamed, and mumble some angry Thai words all at once for the next 15 minutes. She kept begging me to please cum, please cum. Then I turned her over doggy, grabbed her by one shoulder and one ass cheek. And using long deep slow strokes, fucked her until I was going faster and faster, punishing her from behind for what she did to my bear. She was screaming so loudly that I could hear dogs barking back at her from outside. I kept pounding her pussy like this for awhile. The sight of me going in and out of her and of those ass cheeks clapping, with the pinkness of her lips clutching me was way too much. She was going to make me cum and I felt it coming. I pulled off the cover, opened up her ass cheeks, sprayed her asshole with warm cum and then watched it drip down her pussy, and then accidentally onto bear. What the hell? I was angry at myself. I had become the same monster to which I was punishing her for. Now I have learned not to cast any stones while living in a glass house. We collapsed onto the soaked bed and my cock was still throbbing that it felt like her kitty was still gripping my dick. When she finally left, I hugged my bear, and together, me and bear bathed, cleansing our souls from what had just happened.

Disclaimer: This story may have been fantasized or fictionalized to protect the identity of all parties involved. Interpretation should cautioned and be used only for entertainment purposes.

[Syzygies]

Why don't the well respected senior members & MP just meet up and settle this topic once and for all?

Now there is a dumb idea, as a general principal. It is safer to remain anonymous, and only meet up with Posters with a good track record where you respect their opinions, or at least know you can have fun with them present. Posters generally know who they really would like to meet, and who they definitely prefer to avoid.

Stubbornly held views are hard to shift right.

We must understand that compatibility levels can be very low. Attitudes very different. I don't even like to get "private" messages from guys I don't know.

When you go to MPs, you certainly don't buddies. When in a bar, it is too loud to talk much anyway.

The worst forum poster I ever met was always chatting up lots of girls, showing off, and trying to introduce me to talk to them too when I had zero interest. Better off alone or with guys accidentally met, sometimes.

3 times I met a forum poster together with his GF, and found myself liking his girl much more so, a bit too much. Not really the best idea. In other circumstances I would have tried to hook up with the girls. All three guys were well known on here but many years back. None of those guys are still with the girl, I think but I have no idea how to find those girls.

Sometimes liked a friend of my own ex GF too much too. That was less common though. Maybe only once.