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Pinaypounder
04-18-11, 02:08
what possible value as a sexual person could come from sleeping with a virgin. i have met a couple on dia and the last think i would want is thier virginity, they held it for this long. i could take a guess as to why but i won't.
a virgin would be a terrible sexual partner and i can't imagine the damage done to a young lady pysche selling her virginity. plus the crying and the hesitancy, hell i can get that at home.
perhaps i am being to morale but is not the goal of most here to have great sex with beautiful women?
to me this is akin to an **** and i prefer the willing women in their 30's who actually want a nice man to fuck the hell out of their wet little pussies and god knows the phils are full of them.
i find the younger ones are terrible and can't take a bigger cock and whine after an hour or so.
a wrinkle here a sag there means better fucking for me.
what possible value as a sexual person could come from sleeping with a virgin. i have met a couple on dia and the last think i would want is thier virginity, they held it for this long. i could take a guess as to why but i won't.
a virgin would be a terrible sexual partner and i can't imagine the damage done to a young lady pysche selling her virginity. plus the crying and the hesitancy, hell i can get that at home.
perhaps i am being to morale but is not the goal of most here to have great sex with beautiful women?
to me this is akin to an **** and i prefer the willing women in their 30's who actually want a nice man to fuck the hell out of their wet little pussies and god knows the phils are full of them.
i find the younger ones are terrible and can't take a bigger cock and whine after an hour or so.
a wrinkle here a sag there means better fucking for me. that is because most are strawberries and not cherries. meaning that they have fucked a local, but not a foreigner. so they want to sell the strawberry as a cherry.
robb
Yes, in my experience in living in PI the pinoys are relatively peaceful and avoid direct confrontations. Pocket knives (balisong) are commonly carried in the provinces but you are not likely to see one pointed at you unless you threaten the life of the owner. Firearms are expensive and out of reach for the average man.
If you get into an argument over a woman with her ex-husband / ex-boyfriend, happened to me twice, both times the guy swallowed his pride and walked away. They have more to fear from you then you have to fear from them. Money is strength here, it buys muscle and firepower, and you can get more than they can.
Now if you get involved in a dispute over land or assets, thats a threat to be taken seriously. Assasinations over asset ownership are very common. You mean legal firearms are hard to get? Illegal firearms can be purchased for 2000P for a homemade gun.
I am shocked you posted that twice locals swallowed their pride and walked away, most walk away and go get a bolo (machete) and come back. Causing a local to lose face will get you in a world of hurt. Most locals have NO fear of foreigners and if you take away their wife or girlfriend you could end up in a world of hurt. As far as ex-husband goes I would be amazed if it was her ex, as there is no divorce in the Philippines, only annulment and it is very expensive and takes a long time. Next month I will have lived and worked here for the last four years and I have been coming to the Philippines a long time (first visit was 1986) and I still learn something new everyday.
As I posted before, I was in a local Filipino bar in 2005 and one GRO was sitting with another local and her boyfriend came into the bar and shot her and the guy beside her and turn around and walked out.
Robb
Radical Guy
04-19-11, 02:23
what possible value as a sexual person could come from sleeping with a virgin. i have met a couple on dia and the last think i would want is thier virginity, they held it for this long. i could take a guess as to why but i won't.
a virgin would be a terrible sexual partner and i can't imagine the damage done to a young lady pysche selling her virginity. plus the crying and the hesitancy, hell i can get that at home.
perhaps i am being to morale but is not the goal of most here to have great sex with beautiful women?
to me this is akin to an **** and i prefer the willing women in their 30's who actually want a nice man to fuck the hell out of their wet little pussies and god knows the phils are full of them.
i find the younger ones are terrible and can't take a bigger cock and whine after an hour or so.
a wrinkle here a sag there means better fucking for me. i met my now-wife, vangie. 7 years ago, when she was an 18-year-old virgin. we chatted online, and spoke on the phone, when she was still 17, but when i got to her town in the provinces a few months later, she had just turned 18.
there was only one decent hotel in town, and vangie insisted on staying with me, probably because she didn't want me prowling around for other girls. well, she was definitely a virgin. the first few nights, i did some daty on her, and she was thrilled. her hymen was intact, and she was so tight, i couldn't even get my finger in. she wanted me to take her virginity, but it just wouldn't go in, probably because she was nervous and scared.
on the fourth night, after i had given vangie daty for about 30 minutes, i eased myself inside her, a centimeter at a time, and i could literally feel a "pop" as her hymen gave way (and she shrieked in pain) , and i was balls-deep in her. i just stayed inside for awhile, and gradually started moving until i pulled out and came.
we took a break the next day and night, but when vangie made love to me the following day, she was really surprised when it no longer hurt. almost immediately, she couldn't get enough, like a light switch went on! i was like a new toy to her, and suddenly she wanted to fuck in the morning, in the day, and at night. i couldn't believe it.
vangie is still the same way after 7 years, and definitely has the higher sex drive of the two of us. i still visit this site for entertainment, though my mongering days are over.
yes, deflowering a virgin can be a bit of work, but there's something really special and exciting about being the first.
rg
Chocha Monger
04-19-11, 02:53
what possible value as a sexual person could come from sleeping with a virgin. i have met a couple on dia and the last think i would want is thier virginity, they held it for this long. i could take a guess as to why but i won't.
a virgin would be a terrible sexual partner and i can't imagine the damage done to a young lady pysche selling her virginity. plus the crying and the hesitancy, hell i can get that at home.
perhaps i am being to morale but is not the goal of most here to have great sex with beautiful women?
to me this is akin to an **** and i prefer the willing women in their 30's who actually want a nice man to fuck the hell out of their wet little pussies and god knows the phils are full of them.
i find the younger ones are terrible and can't take a bigger cock and whine after an hour or so.
a wrinkle here a sag there means better fucking for me. well said robbaf! anyone chatting with a dia girl claiming to be a virgin should realize that they're being sold a fraudulent bill of goods. dia virgins are like the car dealer's 'certified pre-owned' cars. they may have been lightly used but used nonetheless. filipinas have very flexible definitions of virginity. they may be virgin to foreign cock, or they might only be virgin to your cock specifically. a lot of these girls are remarkably tight and routinely stain a bit upon being penetrated by anything slightly more formidable than a local trouser snake. throw in some theatrics and an ouch here and there most foreigners, having never fucked a virgin, would never know the difference. why do they go through the trouble of selling you a secondhand cherry? well, to inflate your ego and get you thinking with the small head instead of the big one. now she can claim you ruined her by popping her cherry and you must marry her or at least deal with her on an open wallet policy since no local will have her now. i suppose there is no harm in the illusion as long as you don't open the wallet too wide.
Hairy Wonder
04-19-11, 03:27
I had a gf that claimed and felt very much like a virgin the first time we had sex. If she wasn't a virgin, she was a very good actress, and extremely tight. I didn't feel the pop, as RG reported. But most of what he wrote was the same for me. I thoroughly enjoyed teaching her many different positions and techniques. She learned them all very well and became a class A nympho! It was nice having her around. When I would return home from work, she would be there waiting, fresh out of the shower, in a sexy, see through nighty, ready for action. She would strip me down and immediately do a BBBJ until I CIM. I miss those days. But I won't have a live in again, because that relationship turned into something very similar to a marriage. That's something I don't want to be in again.
HW
Hairy Wonder
04-19-11, 03:29
Are you sure you were chatting with a woman and not a police officer?If she was a cop, she did a pretty convincing job of masturbating on cam for me!
Member #4491
04-19-11, 11:57
I respect everyones opinion but are a bit surprised how generic statements people make on the topic of virginity here. It seems to be quite a topic, especially for the no-sayers.
I like to extrapolate things to make my own reasoning clear. Let us say that there is a generic way for a doctor to diagnose if a girl is in fact a virgin. It is up to everyone to decide if the think such a methodology exists. Humans can become doctors; hence they can learn this methodology IF it exists.
But maybe it is this and the outer space that is yet to be explored? Could perhaps render me the Nobel price even, if I manage to describe this process.
The same extrapolation goes for identifying lies by studying communication patterns, etc. These pinays are not the hardest nuts to crack IMHO.
Just because some of the sales men / women are selling a fake product, does not make the buyers brain dead. One can not make general statements based on ones limited success or experience in an area. Not all the girls even on DIA has had sex. So of course there is all types on that web page.
On the pop: read up! The info is out there.
How can anyone have opinions on this topic? What good are opinions really apart from feeding that little weak baby called ego? Moral high ground is nothing but opinions. Women like to take moral high grounds for all sorts of reasons, mainly because of their lack of harmony, self esteem and balance, but to find that here on ISG amongst hard core man working girls? Surprisingly indeed.
I will not debate this topic because in essence I think it is just opinions, but I say each to his own. Keep fucking virgins if you feel like it.
Last trip I had a funny incident relating to the definition of virginity. Me and a fellow monger met up with four cuties for some food and karaoke. As it happens this place has short term rooms for 300 PHP in the proximity. Said and done, me and a rather well busted young girl sneaks of to exchange bodily fluids and money. When penetrating her, she is extremely tight. Tighter than normal and I ask her "are you sure that you are not a virgin". Her response is "no no I am not, I promise". I fuck her some more and she is in pain, but she endures. Once again I ask, and she denies. Does not take long before her little honey cave squeeze the juices out of me and while talking afterwards I want to find out what kind of micro dick she had. She tells me "my boy friend is a girl. A lesbian. He fucks me with her finger." We dwell on this topic for a while and the fact that one normally refers to loosing the virginity as having a dick in the fanny, but she insists that her lesbian "boyfriend" is the one that took her cherry, and who am I to argue.
Had a similar incident before with a girlfriend. She was finger fucked by an evil uncle at age 9, and excused herself several times for not being a virgin or "proper virgin" (whatever that is). Apology accepted.
/B
Imagine a land where, stepping off the plane, you undergo a miraculous transformation.
Suddenly, you are twenty years younger and twenty pounds lighter. Your jokes have never been funnier.
Your charm never so evident. You are Gwapo and desired by countless nubile young maidens.
Your sexual prowess quotient rises exponentially. Ah, if such a paradise could exist!
Had a similar incident before with a girlfriend. She was finger fucked by an evil uncle at age 9, and excused herself several times for not being a virgin or "proper virgin" (whatever that is). Apology accepted.
/BLOL you should have asked for half your money back or a given her a good spanking for if a freebee for not being a "proper virgin".
Member #4351
04-20-11, 16:08
I posted some years ago on the Peru forum about a girl I was with who was certain she wasn't a virgin. When I performed the tongue test, there was definitely a complete hymen present. I asked her again and she assured me that she had had sex once with her ex BF. I asked her if she was sure that his prong had been inside. She said she wasn't sure. Of course he probably just go too excited and came when he was about to stick it in.
Back on the subject of virgins in the Philippines. I have the feeling that this idea of the majority of girls losing their virginities while sleeping in close quarters with brothers, cousins, fathers and uncles might just be an urban legend. Every time I`ve mentioned it to a Filipina she has been shocked at the idea that this could occur. Of course given the propensity for Filipinas not wanting to admit to anything which might in some way portray their culture negatively this might mean nothing. However I have come across many "legal aged definite without a doubt virgins". Since I am one of those who feels that the devirginization process is more work than pleasure, I have often passed.
I posted some years ago on the Peru forum about a girl I was with who was certain she wasn't a virgin. When I performed the tongue test, there was definitely a complete hymen present. I asked her again and she assured me that she had had sex once with her ex BF. I asked her if she was sure that his prong had been inside. She said she wasn't sure. Of course he probably just go too excited and came when he was about to stick it in.
Back on the subject of virgins in the Philippines. I have the feeling that this idea of the majority of girls losing their virginities while sleeping in close quarters with brothers, cousins, fathers and uncles might just be an urban legend. Every time I`ve mentioned it to a Filipina she has been shocked at the idea that this could occur. Of course given the propensity for Filipinas not wanting to admit to anything which might in some way portray their culture negatively this might mean nothing. However I have come across many "legal aged definite without a doubt virgins". Since I am one of those who feels that the devirginization process is more work than pleasure, I have often passed. I doubt you can check the hymen with the tongue. It is not long enough. But with a couple of fingers you can make sure. Ofcourse with a dick you are 100% sure.
Majority of the willing girls loose their virginity like anywhere else in the world. With their boyfriends. I had my first virgin when I was 14 years old and she was 15. It just happened because her whole family went to attend a wedding leaving her home alone for some reason.
In Phi socoety the whole family sleeps together on the floor. It is impossible to have sex. But if the uncle catches her alone and if she is willing it can happen. Ofcourse the girls will never admit these things. One my DIA conquests was a virgin. When she told her mother, her mother got really angry, she said.
In very conservative family it is impossible for many girls to have the time or the situation to have sex.
I am sure there are many real virgins among the " cherry " girls in AC.
Having a virgin is definitely fun. The fun is you get to teach her how to have fun besides the feeling that you are the first. Many a times bleeding can occur every time having sex. One Thai virgin I had bled every time although not as much as in the begining.
I always make sure that the girl does indeed want to loose her virginity and without any promises.
Member #4351
04-20-11, 17:17
I doubt you can check the hymen with the tongue. It is not long enough.Mine is. She wasn't tall.
Radical Guy
04-20-11, 19:04
I always make sure that the girl does indeed want to loose her virginity and without any promises.Back in my mongering days, I found that many girls will give you their virginity for simply the "hope" of winning your heart. I didn't feel it necessary to tell a girl that I ONLY wanted sex, even if that was in my mind. I always felt that I could honestly tell a girl that I could make no promises, but who knows where things could lead?
Thus, many girls willingly gave me their cherry even though I made no promises, as long as I didn't completely kill the *possibility* that things could develop into marriage. Many were quite disappointed when things didn't develop as they hoped or expected, but I don't feel guilty because that was what I told Vangie, whom I ultimately fell in love with and married.
RG
Member #4491
04-21-11, 01:40
LOL you should have asked for half your money back or a given her a good spanking for if a freebee for not being a "proper virgin".I did in fact know this before she became my "friend". I assured her several times that it was totally OK. This is one of the three friends that I fucked (one preggo) during 2010 and 2011. Sometimes it pays off to be persistent and nice continuously. I work behind my monitors so I have plenty of time to chit chat. Never fill a girls head with lies. Tell them the slightly bended truth and of course treat them for some fun. This girl was happy to giver her in-proper cherry to me as long as I was nice to her and kept in touch also after the deed was done. Why not. She is a cool girl. Youth politician in the province and told me all about rigging elections and such. Now she met an American that seems to be in love, so I am left with the two teen friends. But one snatched a phone from me and the other is pregnant with Davaos most jealous man, so poor Barba better focus on other challenges in May.
/B
It isn't surprising that there are many free lancers in the major centers. It's astonishing that there are not so many more! Jobs are hard to find. Many are 'contract' jobs meaning after 5 to 6 months the job ends. Fast food outlets.
Wages start at only 165 pesos per day. So called 'good jobs' pay about 285 pesos (minimum wage). Most college grads are working for under 300 pesos a day.
A free lancer at Mango Square in Cebu is probably asking 1000-1500 ST. So for a short session, close to one week's pay! If she is desperate for cash today, then negotiating may lower the price. Still, comparing the vast discrepancy.
Between hours worked, plus extra hours spent commuting to a 'nothing' job, to one of enjoying the night life, wearing fashionable clothes, and affording expensive mobile phones, it seems to be an attractive job option.
Most younger Filipinas live with their families and the shame of being branded a 'Bad Girl' stops many from risking their reputations.
From an economic perspective, free lancing seems to be an attractive option.
So true and many FL single moms will honestly say, I just have one customer and go home.
1000-1500p is one weeks pay, buys milk for the baby, and doesn't cause a lot of wear and tear on the reputation. Many of the "day shift" at Manila Bay Cafe make a 2hr commute (3 rides) for that 1500p and frequent there about twice a week. Keep in mind, many of these girls would prefer to give you there cell numbers and not "hustle". Many of these girls are easy to talk to and hang out with and don't have that "prosti attitude".
Cheapy.
It isn't surprising that there are many free lancers in the major centers. It's astonishing that there are not so many more! Jobs are hard to find. Many are 'contract' jobs meaning after 5 to 6 months the job ends. Fast food outlets.
Wages start at only 165 pesos per day. So called 'good jobs' pay about 285 pesos (minimum wage). Most college grads are working for under 300 pesos a day.
A free lancer at Mango Square in Cebu is probably asking 1000-1500 ST. So for a short session, close to one week's pay! If she is desperate for cash today, then negotiating may lower the price. Still, comparing the vast discrepancy.
Between hours worked, plus extra hours spent commuting to a 'nothing' job, to one of enjoying the night life, wearing fashionable clothes, and affording expensive mobile phones, it seems to be an attractive job option.
Most younger Filipinas live with their families and the shame of being branded a 'Bad Girl' stops many from risking their reputations.
From an economic perspective, free lancing seems to be an attractive option.
Chocha Monger
04-22-11, 17:44
I doubt you can check the hymen with the tongue. It is not long enough. But with a couple of fingers you can make sure. Ofcourse with a dick you are 100% sure.
Majority of the willing girls loose their virginity like anywhere else in the world. With their boyfriends. I had my first virgin when I was 14 years old and she was 15. It just happened because her whole family went to attend a wedding leaving her home alone for some reason.
In Phi socoety the whole family sleeps together on the floor. It is impossible to have sex. But if the uncle catches her alone and if she is willing it can happen. Ofcourse the girls will never admit these things. One my DIA conquests was a virgin. When she told her mother, her mother got really angry, she said.
In very conservative family it is impossible for many girls to have the time or the situation to have sex.
I am sure there are many real virgins among the " cherry " girls in AC.
Having a virgin is definitely fun. The fun is you get to teach her how to have fun besides the feeling that you are the first. Many a times bleeding can occur every time having sex. One Thai virgin I had bled every time although not as much as in the begining.
I always make sure that the girl does indeed want to loose her virginity and without any promises. Actually, it is quite easy and accepted to have sex in close quarters in the Philippines. It all starts back in the palm thatched shack where the girls grow up hearing mommy and daddy going at it like animals in the darkness. In fact, I've heard many stories about auntie crying out in the dark as though uncle was hitting her. Extended family members copulate within a few feet of each other and the sounds they make causes no more concern than the croaking of the frogs, chirping of crickets and the hooting of owls in the fields and bushes outside. The girls are sent out to fetch water and firewood. Uncles and cousins have ample opportunities to bend them over the trunk of a coconut palm swaying in the stiff tropical breeze. Sex is nothing to the girls since they grow up seeing the National Geographic Channel in action all around them. All around the farm and the village roosters root hens, dogs get stuck, caribou mate and goats get frisky. It's the cycle of life and no one is embarrassed. A lot of Westerners cannot imagine having sex in a room where the only thing separating them from the view of family members is a sheet hung from a clothes line. There is a reason why threesomes are readily available and girls tumble into your bed on the first meeting. The reason for it is certainly not because the girls or their families are diligently guarding their cherries. Let's not kid ourselves. Filipinas are highly sexual creatures. For this reason men travel from the ends of the Earth to seek them out.
What a bunch of hocum!
Doubt you have ever been to the provinces let alone Philly.
Or maybe just the friendly confines of AC.
Either way, you have too much time on your hands!
What a bunch of hocum!
Doubt you have ever been to the provinces let alone Philly.
Or maybe just the friendly confines of AC.
Either way, you have too much time on your hands! Yeah. 4 reports and you're already picking pissing matches, particularly with a guy that has over 1, 000.
Not very good judgment. Stay there in your mom's basement.
You're no wealth of information either! 64 posts in 9 years so pipe down!
You're no wealth of information either! 64 posts in 9 years so pipe down!Before my prior ID somehow got lost in cyberspace, I had several hundred posts providing considerable information. Slippery is merely an old ID that I re-employed after the other I'd got lost. Pick your pissing matches wisely Homi.
Before my prior ID somehow got lost in cyberspace, I had several hundred posts providing considerable information. Slippery is merely an old ID that I re-employed after the other I'd got lost. Pick your pissing matches wisely Homi.Okay fine we believe you! Maybe you and Will Robinson should go on a space hunt to find the real slipper!
Okay fine we believe you! Maybe you and Will Robinson should go on a space hunt to find the real slipper!It took you 10 days to come up with that?
I decided to start looking at pina like blondes they fit the jokes so well.
Q: How can you tell if a blonde has been using the computer?
A: The joystick is wet.
Q: What does a blonde put behind her ears to make her more attractive?
A: Her ankles
Filipina's, honestly I have only experienced them in western countries.
They seem to have an arrogant, loudmouth, attitude problem and want absolutely nothing to do with a man from another race except Filipino's.
So when I read all the stories about how sweet and loving they are in their own country, I wonder what the hell happens to them when they get to the US AUS etc etc.
Anyway I have been talking on chat to a filipina (DIA) for a couple of months and she seems pleasant enough and as luck would have it she will be in Singapore the same times that I am next week.
We arrange to meet and its all fine, then she tells me that she has never been with a man before and is a virgin. Now why would she say that.
At 29 years I find it impossible to believe.
Interesting times ahead.
Filipina's, honestly I have only experienced them in western countries.
They seem to have an arrogant, loudmouth, attitude problem and want absolutely nothing to do with a man from another race except Filipino's.
So when I read all the stories about how sweet and loving they are in their own country, I wonder what the hell happens to them when they get to the US AUS etc etc.
Anyway I have been talking on chat to a filipina (DIA) for a couple of months and she seems pleasant enough and as luck would have it she will be in Singapore the same times that I am next week.
We arrange to meet and its all fine, then she tells me that she has never been with a man before and is a virgin. Now why would she say that.
At 29 years I find it impossible to believe.
Interesting times ahead. Sorry I have to disagree completely with your sweeping generalisation. I lived with a Filipina for 7 years in Europe and though she had (what I considered to be) many faults, arrogance and being loud mouthed were not some of them. My gf had already gained residency in my country and had a well paid job, so she had nothing to gain in a material sense from being with me and I also knew many of her Filipina friends who also do not fit the profile you have described. However I do agree that bringing a girl back from the Philippines to your own country is fraught with difficulties and dangers many of which have already been debated at great length before on this and other threads and I have nothing of value to add to those discussions.
To be fair, the vast majority of Filipinas I know and have met in my own country have been shy, reserved and respectful, the complete opposite of what you describe. These are the qualities that I find attractive in Filipinas and they ensure my repeated visits to the Phillipines several times each year.
Member #4351
06-06-11, 21:45
We arrange to meet and its all fine, then she tells me that she has never been with a man before and is a virgin. Now why would she say that.
At 29 years I find it impossible to believe.
Interesting times ahead. In my experience its completely possible that she is still a virgin. Some girls are very religious and/or waiting for "the soul mate".
Chocha Monger
06-07-11, 03:07
Filipina's, honestly I have only experienced them in western countries.
They seem to have an arrogant, loudmouth, attitude problem and want absolutely nothing to do with a man from another race except Filipino's.
So when I read all the stories about how sweet and loving they are in their own country, I wonder what the hell happens to them when they get to the US AUS etc etc.
Anyway I have been talking on chat to a filipina (DIA) for a couple of months and she seems pleasant enough and as luck would have it she will be in Singapore the same times that I am next week.
We arrange to meet and its all fine, then she tells me that she has never been with a man before and is a virgin. Now why would she say that.
At 29 years I find it impossible to believe.
Interesting times ahead. Yes. How strange that you see their true nature when they no longer need a visa or your money. Hunger and poverty can instill humility even if it's fake. I hope you didn't really believe that they enjoy licking a pair of old wrinkled white balls. Filipinas will do whatever it takes to escape their shithole and that includes making you feel like the wonderful White Knight. Be assured once they get what they want you'll turn into a pumpkin faster than Cinderella's carriage did at the stroke of midnight.
Wow you may have to look at how people see you, every Pina I have met in australia and Singapore would be amongst the friendliest people I know, they are catholic to the core and never show arrogance, unless you are treating them in a way that they do not want to know you.
I know guys see asians as fucking machines and it shows even when they not open their mouth, most pina I know are smart and would see it too. As for 29 and virgin yes I know girls like that and they have enough money to fly to Singapore, but there are bar girls who would be there too and lie that they are virgins, you doubting she could be a virgin, shows how little you trust asain girls, so maybe you should start dating European girls and see how long you will last.
I f you think she is a bar girl then Post her dia page so we can help you. I would warn any one to get more information on any race where the girl can work in a bar.
FreebieFan
06-07-11, 05:47
In my experience its completely possible that she is still a virgin. Some girls are very religious and/or waiting for "the soul mate".Got a 32 year old Filipina virgin here in Taipei. Says its time to lose the cherry but cautious about losing it to just "anyone". I think she will be a virgin for a long time yet.
I have an unusual request for info about Manila / Philippines. I visit there from time to time and pay a visit to the usual mongering haunts. I usually get to stay in a property owned by the company. So no bringing home ladies for long time or even short time fun. I usually just go to one of the places in Ermita (nr LA Cafe) for short time fun.
So while I might know Manila from the surface as a monger, I really cannot say I have been anywhere outside Ermita or Makati.
Hence my problem. I would like to be able, from time to time, bring an educated woman to dinner with associates, some foreign, some Pinoy. I don't want to invite one of the secretaries in the office as it would mess up what is already a very good working relationship and I don't want to start anything I could not finish there.
Does anyone have any ideas how I might hook up with an educated woman, pref university education equivalent, who is not out there to escape from the ghetto via marriage, who might enjoy some interesting conversation. Sex is not necessary as I can get as much of that through merely showing up at LA Cafe or making a call.
I am less keen on the internet sites as my attempts there have invariably turned out bad and time wasting as regards trying to track down an educated woman.
Any advice from long term residents?
FreebieFan
06-07-11, 10:42
I have an unusual request for info about Manila / Philippines. I visit there from time to time and pay a visit to the usual mongering haunts. I usually get to stay in a property owned by the company. So no bringing home ladies for long time or even short time fun. I usually just go to one of the places in Ermita (nr LA Cafe) for short time fun.
So while I might know Manila from the surface as a monger, I really cannot say I have been anywhere outside Ermita or Makati.
Hence my problem. I would like to be able, from time to time, bring an educated woman to dinner with associates, some foreign, some Pinoy. I don't want to invite one of the secretaries in the office as it would mess up what is already a very good working relationship and I don't want to start anything I could not finish there.
Does anyone have any ideas how I might hook up with an educated woman, pref university education equivalent, who is not out there to escape from the ghetto via marriage, who might enjoy some interesting conversation. Sex is not necessary as I can get as much of that through merely showing up at LA Cafe or making a call.
I am less keen on the internet sites as my attempts there have invariably turned out bad and time wasting as regards trying to track down an educated woman.
Any advice from long term residents?Conways in Shangril La has some groups of ladies who go to sing old songs and don't necessarily go to find new bf's. Get associated with a school or college that has pleasant teachers and clerical staff. BEcome interested in real estate as there are many agents that are wholesome and nice. Visit a hospital on whatever pretence as there are many good female doctors. Smile and say Hello, to people in upmarket malls, you would be suprised at the response potential. But be prepared that without the internet this takes time. Try places like the Farmers market on a Saturday morning in Legaspi. BE pleasant and say Hello, and someone sonewhere there will be happy to talk. The only place I didn't mention of course is go to Church. Many churches there and many wholesome people looking to meet other wholesome folks.
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Does anyone have any ideas how I might hook up with an educated woman, pref university education equivalent, who is not out there to escape from the ghetto via marriage, who might enjoy some interesting conversation. Sex is not necessary as I can get as much of that through merely showing up at LA Cafe or making a call.
I am less keen on the internet sites as my attempts there have invariably turned out bad and time wasting as regards trying to track down an educated woman.
Any advice from long term residents? FF gives you some valid advice and I agree with him.
Just to add some more.
I don't agree that the internet isn't a worthwhile avenue to pursue.
If you write an honest profile on DIA for example in which you describe clearly exactly what you want and who you are looking for (the sort of thing you put in your post here) , you will be pleasantly surprised who you will flush out (and this is from my own personal experience).
Also do a search every now and again and just click on various profiles without sending any messages and suddenly you will stimulate women to read your profile and respond.
One final tip. If a woman sends you a "Hi, How are you?" always ask her if she has read and fully understood your profile before you go to Step 2 or 3.
It is remarkable how many women send random "Hellos" out to guys without reading their profiles.
I had been dating a nurse from Philippines Childrens Medical Center on Quezon Avenue in QC. On my next trip home, every time I would go to a Walgreens or other retailer I would buy a cheap stuffed animal and put it in a bag. I accumulated perhaps 30 of those and broght them to the hospital on my next trip. Those women at the hospital creamed in their panties. I guess an individual never did anything like that on their own accord. That next trip I could have taken any nurse or any other female in the hospital. My gf at the time fucked me silly that entire trip. Just don't try that at an orphanage run by nuns!
GoodEnough
06-08-11, 23:36
Does anyone have any ideas how I might hook up with an educated woman, pref university education equivalent, who is not out there to escape from the ghetto via marriage, who might enjoy some interesting conversation. Sex is not necessary as I can get as much of that through merely showing up at LA Cafe or making a call.
Any advice from long term residents? I've given this advice before to people who have asked the same question about finding reasonably well educated women in Davao, but to my knowledge, no one has ever taken it. Go to one of the major universities. In Manila this would mean Ateneo or De La Salle, though there are literally dozens of others that might also work. Take a newspaper and a coffee and just hang out on the campus for an hour or two. I think you'll find that both students and some of the younger teaching staff will approach you under some pretense or other. If not, you can always approach them with an innocuous line or two. When my lady was at university here I used to pick her up sometimes on campus and I was always somewhat amazed at how many students and / or teachers would go out of their way to speak with me.
If you can't get onto the campus because security issues, then go hang out at one of the many coffee shops and small restaurants in close proximity to the universities. These places are often crammed with students and faculty between classes.
One final suggestion is just to ask one of the ladies where you work for some referrals by explaining that you would really like to meet a well educated, interesting woman. I've seen this work before in somewhat different circumstances, and it's a pretty effective technique for meeting women from a higher echelon than normally found on Burgos St. You might also want to check Craigslist as some of this type of women seem to put posts on that site.
GE
LoveAsianWhores
06-09-11, 06:29
I have an unusual request for info about Manila / Philippines. I visit there from time to time and pay a visit to the usual mongering haunts. I usually get to stay in a property owned by the company. So no bringing home ladies for long time or even short time fun. I usually just go to one of the places in Ermita (nr LA Cafe) for short time fun.
So while I might know Manila from the surface as a monger, I really cannot say I have been anywhere outside Ermita or Makati.
Hence my problem. I would like to be able, from time to time, bring an educated woman to dinner with associates, some foreign, some Pinoy. I don't want to invite one of the secretaries in the office as it would mess up what is already a very good working relationship and I don't want to start anything I could not finish there.
Does anyone have any ideas how I might hook up with an educated woman, pref university education equivalent, who is not out there to escape from the ghetto via marriage, who might enjoy some interesting conversation. Sex is not necessary as I can get as much of that through merely showing up at LA Cafe or making a call.
I am less keen on the internet sites as my attempts there have invariably turned out bad and time wasting as regards trying to track down an educated woman.
Any advice from long term residents? For the past several months, I've been trying to hook up with an educated girl, but have had absolutely no luck. Outside of the bars, I just cannot, now matter how hard I try, find anyone that I am attracted to who is also attracted to me. I've also tried several dating sites, but have found all the girls to be either bargirls (I can just go the bars for that) or unnatractive regular girls. Since I plan on having children with my next girl, I thought it best to find someone outside of a bar. But it's not happening, so I'm about to pay the steady bar fine of a virgin bargirl (she says she is, and I will check out of curiosity, but not that important to me either way). I figure it is better to have a beautiful, sweet girl who thinks the world of me than an unattractive, educated girl. Sure, this girl barely knows english and I doubt has any math ability beyond adding up single digit numbers, but I just don't care. And since all my friends are hooked up with bargirls anyway, I don't forsee any social problems.
GoodEnough
06-09-11, 09:26
For the past several months, I've been trying to hook up with an educated girl, but have had absolutely no luck. Outside of the bars, I just cannot, now matter how hard I try, find anyone that I am attracted to who is also attracted to me. I've also tried several dating sites, but have found all the girls to be either bargirls (I can just go the bars for that) or unnatractive regular girls. Since I plan on having children with my next girl, I thought it best to find someone outside of a bar. But it's not happening, so I'm about to pay the steady bar fine of a virgin bargirl (she says she is, and I will check out of curiosity, but not that important to me either way). I figure it is better to have a beautiful, sweet girl who thinks the world of me than an unattractive, educated girl. Sure, this girl barely knows english and I doubt has any math ability beyond adding up single digit numbers, but I just don't care. And since all my friends are hooked up with bargirls anyway, I don't forsee any social problems.I'm not in any way disparaging what you plan to do, and I think I understand the frustration that motivates it. What I've never understood about the educated guy- bar girl hook-up is how you pass the time when you're not in bed together? I get the great sex part of the equation; it's the rest of it I don't understand. Given that you've got nothing but sex in common with each other, what do you find to talk about? And in what language do you talk about it? Since I could never answer this question for myself, it was never a serious temptation for me.
GE
Many thanks for the suggestions for how to meet more educated women in Manila.
I'm not in any way disparaging what you plan to do, and I think I understand the frustration that motivates it. What I've never understood about the educated guy- bar girl hook-up is how you pass the time when you're not in bed together? I get the great sex part of the equation; it's the rest of it I don't understand. Given that you've got nothing but sex in common with each other, what do you find to talk about? And in what language do you talk about it? Since I could never answer this question for myself, it was never a serious temptation for me.
GEAbsolutely spot on agree with GE on this one. The very same puzzlement besets me when I see an educated guy planning on a longer-term hook-up with a completely uneducated girl, and she is usually 20 - 30 years younger than him.
A key step is to spend at least a week but better 2 or 3 weeks with her in a hotel room or an apartment and see how you feel after that.
Chances are you will have gone crazy with her addiction to local TV and cell phone texting etc and a complete lack of any connection or sharing of experiences.
Taking her to Boracay or somewhere like that is not the same.
It is also wise to do a 10 or 15 year projection if there is an age difference.
If you will be 60 to 70 and she will be 35 to 45 in (say) 15 years then remember she will be at the prime of her sex life and, despite thinking that Viagra / Cialis will always rescue you, there will come a time when you just cannot excite her any more, especially if she likes sex and that's what attracted her to you in the first place too.
What does she do then?
Chocha Monger
06-09-11, 14:26
Absolutely spot on agree with GE on this one. The very same puzzlement besets me when I see an educated guy planning on a longer-term hook-up with a completely uneducated girl, and she is usually 20. 30 years younger than him.
A key step is to spend at least a week but better 2 or 3 weeks with her in a hotel room or an apartment and see how you feel after that.
Chances are you will have gone crazy with her addiction to local TV and cell phone texting etc and a complete lack of any connection or sharing of experiences.
Taking her to Boracay or somewhere like that is not the same.
It is also wise to do a 10 or 15 year projection if there is an age difference.
If you will be 60 to 70 and she will be 35 to 45 in (say) 15 years then remember she will be at the prime of her sex life and, despite thinking that Viagra / Cialis will always rescue you, there will come a time when you just cannot excite her any more, especially if she likes sex and that's what attracted her to you in the first place too.
What does she do then? She gets a young stud with a hard dick to exercise her pussy in ways her 60 to 70 yrs old husband can only dream about. Filipinas in the 35 to 45 yrs have an appetite for younger guys in the States. They are not shy about turning into cougars and going on the prowl. An over-sexed one at that age would be an old man's nightmare!
For the past several months, I've been trying to hook up with an educated girl, but have had absolutely no luck. Outside of the bars, I just cannot, now matter how hard I try, find anyone that I am attracted to who is also attracted to me. I've also tried several dating sites, but have found all the girls to be either bargirls (I can just go the bars for that) or unnatractive regular girls. Since I plan on having children with my next girl, I thought it best to find someone outside of a bar. But it's not happening, so I'm about to pay the steady bar fine of a virgin bargirl (she says she is, and I will check out of curiosity, but not that important to me either way). I figure it is better to have a beautiful, sweet girl who thinks the world of me than an unattractive, educated girl. Sure, this girl barely knows english and I doubt has any math ability beyond adding up single digit numbers, but I just don't care. And since all my friends are hooked up with bargirls anyway, I don't forsee any social problems.Where else in the world but Philippines it is accepted by young girls to have old boyfriend / husband?
If the young girl thinks "world of you " or not it is a different matter." virgin " bargirl does not necessarily mean she is naive. Once in AC all these bargirls quickly learn the ways of the world irrespective of which corner she came from. I am sure if you live in the provinces or small cities you can find girls who are unjaded by AC. It will be very difficult to find educated girls if there is a big age difference unless the girl has couple of kids.
Sex bonds people. Once the sex is good it does not matter whether you have a decent conversation or not. Even educated girls in Phi are not great conversationalists. As far as taking them to vacation spots and having a good time, they do not compare with western girls.
Besides being a monger you will get tired of any girl good or not. Sooner or later you would want fresh meat.
Unless you marry and have children and content in life, do not promise the world for any young girl.
DriveAllNight
06-10-11, 01:58
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1164419]Where else in the world but Philippines it is accepted by young girls to have old boyfriend / husband? [\QUOTE]
Sammon, have you spent any time at all in Latin America? The wealthy older man / pretty younger woman scenario is common everywhere south of Mexico. It's especially prevalent in Colombia and Brazil.
If you're a man of financial success, it is almost expected in Latin America that you have a hot, young mistress in addition to your wife. It is seen as a more-or-less standard accoutrement, much like a pricey car or an expansive home.
I think the word rich is different in the Philippines you do not have to be rich here to get a younger girl. Some of the looks you see with younger girls look like they can not afford the taxi.
DriveAllNight
06-10-11, 04:13
I think the word rich is different in the Philippines you do not have to be rich here to get a younger girl. Some of the looks you see with younger girls look like they can not afford the taxi.Yup. Seems like many of the girls, if they think they might have a shot at producing a pointy-nosed baby with light skin and eyes, that's enough.
Chocha Monger
06-10-11, 17:38
Yup. Seems like many of the girls, if they think they might have a shot at producing a pointy-nosed baby with light skin and eyes, that's enough.You're kidding yourself if you think that is what they're really after and it is enough for them. These girls may not be highly educated but they aren't keen on having a foreigner impregnate them just because he happens to be white. More likely they're excited at the prospect of being able to hit the 'rich' foreigner up for cash 'for the baby' over the next two decades and having a kid that qualifies for a foreign passport who will serve as the ticket out for the family upon reaching adulthood. I've met many bastard Filipinas looking for their foreign fathers to sign their birth certificate so they can get a passport to flee to his homeland. Many guys refuse to do it because of the prospect of being sued for back child support. Don't think for a minute that a poor family would not sell a half white girl to a high end KTV to service Koreans and wealthy Filipinos who prize those features in their prostitutes. Think carefully about those supposed impregnation with no strings attached offers.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1164419]Where else in the world but Philippines it is accepted by young girls to have old boyfriend / husband? [\QUOTE]
Sammon, have you spent any time at all in Latin America? The wealthy older man / pretty younger woman scenario is common everywhere south of Mexico. It's especially prevalent in Colombia and Brazil.
If you're a man of financial success, it is almost expected in Latin America that you have a hot, young mistress in addition to your wife. It is seen as a more-or-less standard accoutrement, much like a pricey car or an expansive home. I have been to Central and South america many times. Yes, it is true that people with means can have young girlfriends. But the spanish girls are high maintenance in the sense you have to be really rich in order to keep young girlfriends. I am not talking about working girls.
Not the same as in Phi. I have met and seen many old guys having girlfriends. These guys seemingly do not have much money by the way they look or dress. But Phi does not draw super rich people to re-locate there.
In spanish countries many rich people do re-locate.
In Phi as I have evidenced in the provinces it is perfectly normal to walk aeround with young, cute girls irrespective of your age. I have gone and visited my girlfriend's families few times in the provinces and apart from curiosity from the neighbours the family itself seem to be at ease. Although I supported the girls through education, I was not spending lot of money. I am sure in Latin american countries it will cost lot more to keep a young girl.
IMHO Phi poor girls are quite happy to be taken care of however small way and happy to be with older men. It is not just in the bedroom. They do show open affection in public. In other words they just want to have a decent life away from their dirt poor parents. You should go and see some of the houses they live in. They hardly have anything.
One family had only two plates. Me and the girl were served chicken and rice first (I paid for it ). During that time one of girl's uncle dropped by with his wife. Although they sat with us they were not served. After we finished eating the same two plates were washed and they were served dinner. Obviously the girl wanted to get away from this kind of poverty. Couple of her friends were married to really old men from australia who visit three months of the year. One picture I saw was 20 year old girl with 70 year old man. My girl said they are married.
Phi is lot poorer compared to Latin american countries. I doubt if a 20 year old spanish country girl will marry a 70 year old man!
GoodEnough
06-11-11, 00:41
Many of the guys who come here for brief periods have not, I suspect, witnessed first hand the crushing poverty within which many of the ladies they meet were raised. Most recent estimates that I've read estimate the percentage of families living below the UN poverty standard of $2 a day, at 40-50 % of the total population. Almost any foreigner who can afford to come here, no matter how modest his means if judged by Western standards, is going to be considered "rich" by young women raised in the milieu of rural poverty here.
The ability to given a woman a better life than the one lived by her family is a critical component of the "love" a younger woman may feel for a much older man.
According to a recent, comprehensive econonomic analysis published recently by the Asian Development Bank (ADB) , the Philippines is the only country in ASEAN that not only hasn't reduced poverty over the past decade, but has actually managed-through it's ineptitude and runaway population growth-to increase it. So it's no wonder that the country produces literally millions of women desperate to escape the bare subsistence existence in which they were raised and from which they have scant possiblity of escaping through education and / or productive employment.
This does not, I would argue, automatically consign young women who seek "rich" foreigners to the category of gold digger. It merely acknowledges that the ability to provide a better life is a component of a more practical definition of love than operates in the West.
GE
I have an unusual request for info about Manila / Philippines. I visit there from time to time and pay a visit to the usual mongering haunts. I usually get to stay in a property owned by the company. So no bringing home ladies for long time or even short time fun. I usually just go to one of the places in Ermita (nr LA Cafe) for short time fun.
So while I might know Manila from the surface as a monger, I really cannot say I have been anywhere outside Ermita or Makati.
Hence my problem. I would like to be able, from time to time, bring an educated woman to dinner with associates, some foreign, some Pinoy. I don't want to invite one of the secretaries in the office as it would mess up what is already a very good working relationship and I don't want to start anything I could not finish there.
Does anyone have any ideas how I might hook up with an educated woman, pref university education equivalent, who is not out there to escape from the ghetto via marriage, who might enjoy some interesting conversation. Sex is not necessary as I can get as much of that through merely showing up at LA Cafe or making a call.
I am less keen on the internet sites as my attempts there have invariably turned out bad and time wasting as regards trying to track down an educated woman.
Any advice from long term residents? If you don't live here, online sites are 100% your best option. Just avoid DIA and FH.
Do your best to shape up, dress well, groom yourself and fix your physical flaws.
Personal anecdote: Two years ago I was overweight with glasses, pimple-faced, and wearing ugly clothes.
Since then I've slimmed down, gotten LASIK, visited the best dermatologists in Manila, and started dressing better. The transformation has done wonders for my confidence, and the quality of girls that I meet are echelons higher than before.
DriveAllNight
06-11-11, 09:38
You're kidding yourself if you think that is what they're really after and it is enough for them.
Think carefully about those supposed impregnation with no strings attached offers. The fact is, myself and a couple other guys I know have been approached in this manner by Filipinas. And I didn't state this is pro forma, or even a common scenario.
The one who propositioned me was both very young and very poor. And her motivation was silly (if perhaps patently Filipino) : She had dreamed repeatedly that she gave birth to a FilAm child who became a television star.
She also believed in ghosts. And that a family of gnomes lived in a a tree near her house. It would have been funny, if I didn't think she was serious about all these things.
Did she have other, darker motives concerning getting pregnant by a Kano? Quite possibly. But it's impossible to know.
I'm aware of the treachery some Filipinas are capable of. I spend enough time in the RP. But, thanks anyway for the tips.
WestCoast1
06-11-11, 15:17
You're kidding yourself if you think that is what they're really after and it is enough for them. These girls may not be highly educated but they aren't keen on having a foreigner impregnate them just because he happens to be white. More likely they're excited at the prospect of being able to hit the 'rich' foreigner up for cash 'for the baby' over the next two decades and having a kid that qualifies for a foreign passport who will serve as the ticket out for the family upon reaching adulthood.The fact is, myself and a couple other guys I know have been approached in this manner by Filipinas. And I didn't state this is pro forma, or even a common scenario.
I'm aware of the treachery some Filipinas are capable of. I spend enough time in the RP. But, thanks anyway for the tips. Concur with DAL. Have had many ladies interested in making a baby. From the poor end its easy to assume she is looking for dollars or a way out of her country (that's usually right). But you can't make that assumption in every case on the poor end. From a working girl:
Me: you not worried about getting pregnant. So many guys.
Girl: haha I want it.
Me: why.
Girl: I want filam baby. I want a many filam baby hahaha.
Me: but you won't know who the father is.
Girl: I don't care that. Just want gwapito baby the blue eyes (she pointed at my eyes when she said that)
Have had similar conversations with a variety of poor pinay. Have also had similar conversations with wealthier pinay (whether I'm banging them or not). From a well-off girl I bang in Manila: "Is every pinay's dream. Pretty baby long nose pretty eyes. Many pinay sex a foreigner just for the baby. I will. Also my friends talk about it." And this two years ago from a well-to-do, happily married educated nurse pinay, born in phils but raised affluently in the States. She was asking if, on my phils travels, the people were still gold-diggers and also looking for white dads for their kids. Then this: "Before I got married I only had sex with tall blond men with straight nose here in the States. Just look at my husband. I would never have sex with asian or latino or even dark-haired american. I didn't want the chance of my children looking pilipino or spanish." We were at a staff social, chatting alone. I looked over at her tall, thin blond husband. Her kids were playing nearby; both tall, with dark eyes but long thin noses and thin lips (not at all like hers. She is classic pinay 30-ish chubby with less-than-average round face, large flat nose, fat lips). Her kids are beautiful. She got what she wanted.
Chocha Monger
06-11-11, 17:52
Concur with DAL. Have had many ladies interested in making a baby. From the poor end its easy to assume she is looking for dollars or a way out of her country (that's usually right). But you can't make that assumption in every case on the poor end. From a working girl:
Me: you not worried about getting pregnant. So many guys.
Girl: haha I want it.
Me: why.
Girl: I want filam baby. I want a many filam baby hahaha.
Me: but you won't know who the father is.
Girl: I don't care that. Just want gwapito baby the blue eyes (she pointed at my eyes when she said that)
Have had similar conversations with a variety of poor pinay. Have also had similar conversations with wealthier pinay (whether I'm banging them or not). From a well-off girl I bang in Manila: "Is every pinay's dream. Pretty baby long nose pretty eyes. Many pinay sex a foreigner just for the baby. I will. Also my friends talk about it." And this two years ago from a well-to-do, happily married educated nurse pinay, born in phils but raised affluently in the States. She was asking if, on my phils travels, the people were still gold-diggers and also looking for white dads for their kids. Then this: "Before I got married I only had sex with tall blond men with straight nose here in the States. Just look at my husband. I would never have sex with asian or latino or even dark-haired american. I didn't want the chance of my children looking pilipino or spanish." We were at a staff social, chatting alone. I looked over at her tall, thin blond husband. Her kids were playing nearby; both tall, with dark eyes but long thin noses and thin lips (not at all like hers. She is classic pinay 30-ish chubby with less-than-average round face, large flat nose, fat lips). Her kids are beautiful. She got what she wanted. Filipinas and women in general often talk a lot of bullshit but go in the totally opposite direction when reality hits. I know of guys who get the same offers from American women. Some of them took the offer and today they're paying child support for what was supposed to be a 'free' sexy baby. I would like to hear if anyone took up one of these Filipinas on the offer to knock them up and never got any requests for assistance or legal recognition after the child was born. If this is widespread we should be seeing a lot more Filipino-American children in the local population but for some reason most of these girls have children fathered by their own kind. I know of one American on ISG who has fathered several children from various local women but from his posts I get the impression that he is constantly bombarded with cash requests and other hassles from the mothers of the children.
I have had the baby with blue eyes request all over Centray and South America and the Phils. A week after the baby is born the mother will be at the embassy. No thanks. I just finished paying child support for my oldest three years ago.
I have blue eyes and I get this request all over Latin America and a few times in Asia. If that is what they want, I try to accomodate them. Splat. But I leave out the part about the vasectomy.
LoveAsianWhores
06-12-11, 05:34
I'm not in any way disparaging what you plan to do, and I think I understand the frustration that motivates it. What I've never understood about the educated guy- bar girl hook-up is how you pass the time when you're not in bed together? I get the great sex part of the equation; it's the rest of it I don't understand. Given that you've got nothing but sex in common with each other, what do you find to talk about? And in what language do you talk about it? Since I could never answer this question for myself, it was never a serious temptation for me.
GEWell, I recently broke up with my Filipina wife of 13 years. She was a completely uneducated village girl who didn't speak any English. And honestly, it was was a very good marriage for 13 years. The BEST days of our marriage were when she didn't speak English. The marriage collapsed when she she matured and wanted more power in life, and found a younger boyfriend who she could rule over. Of course, my appetite for bargirls didn't help the situation. We grew apart, and way too much to go over in this forum.
The point is, for me at least, I have little interest in stimulating conversation with my girlfriend or wife. That is not what I am looking for in a relationship. In the same way you cannot imagine a relationship with an uneducated girl, I cannot imagine a relationship with an educated one.
I talked about not being able to find an educated girl that I was attracted too, who was also attracted to me. Well, that is because I am not really attracted to educated girls. I have tried, but something about educated girls turns me off once we start talking. I remember 13 years ago when I was dating many Filipinas. Only one girl was college educated, and she was the one I liked the least. I remember thinking "If I wanted a girl like this, I would just stay home in Los Angeles".
We are who we are, and we like who we like. If I get 13 years out of my new girlfriend, that is ok. It is better then the 10 minutes I get from the educated girls I talk to.
Why not just keep renting then? I know few guys that leave in Phils with as many as 10 girls at a time. I have a friend in Thailand that leaves with 4 slave bondage girls. Why go through the trouble when you have the craving for bar girls and you are not looking for a soul mate rather then a passenger into your life.
Well, I recently broke up with my Filipina wife of 13 years. She was a completely uneducated village girl who didn't speak any English. And honestly, it was was a very good marriage for 13 years. The BEST days of our marriage were when she didn't speak English. The marriage collapsed when she she matured and wanted more power in life, and found a younger boyfriend who she could rule over. Of course, my appetite for bargirls didn't help the situation. We grew apart, and way too much to go over in this forum.
The point is, for me at least, I have little interest in stimulating conversation with my girlfriend or wife. That is not what I am looking for in a relationship. In the same way you cannot imagine a relationship with an uneducated girl, I cannot imagine a relationship with an educated one.
I talked about not being able to find an educated girl that I was attracted too, who was also attracted to me. Well, that is because I am not really attracted to educated girls. I have tried, but something about educated girls turns me off once we start talking. I remember 13 years ago when I was dating many Filipinas. Only one girl was college educated, and she was the one I liked the least. I remember thinking "If I wanted a girl like this, I would just stay home in Los Angeles".
We are who we are, and we like who we like. If I get 13 years out of my new girlfriend, that is ok. It is better then the 10 minutes I get from the educated girls I talk to.
I have had the baby with blue eyes request all over Centray and South America and the Phils. A week after the baby is born the mother will be at the embassy. No thanks. I just finished paying child support for my oldest three years ago.Well, It is not possible for the girl to go to the embassy and ask for sponsor or child support. For this the ' guilty ' party must file the papers. I believe it is an uphill battle for those good souls who want their children to go to other countries.
If only it was simple embassies all over the world in poor countries will be inundated by women claiming their child is fathered by other country men.
One of my GF told me her cousin had a Australian father but the father although did send some money for a while refused to sponsor for immigration.
Maybe those with experience in that field can shed more light about out of wedlock child situation.
Sammon, I don't know what country you are from but in the USA many of the individual states have reciprocal agreements with foreign countries, states or provinces that contemplate the foreign citizen obtaining child support from the American non-custodial parent. Also, sometime around 2008, the USA signed off on the International Child Support Treaty at the Hague. I don't know if the treaty has been ratified yet but the US Department of Health and Human Services is pushing it hard. If it has not yet been adopted, it surely will be. To the best of my knowledge there are some amendments that are in negotiation. So right now it appears to be a state by state matter but it will soon be a uniform measure that the states will be compelled to comply with by the federal government.
Fortunately I did not learn this the hard way.
If you don't sign off on the baby acknowledging it is yours then she can't do shit. If you are stupid enough to take up the offer then don't give her your info and protect yourself by taking her to short time hotel and signing on as santa or something like that. I personally think its a stupid thing to do unless you have vasectomy and know nothing will come of it.
Mc Don, first, there are plenty of stupid guys out there. Second, ever heard of court ordered DNA testing? I see it all the time in my work.
Mr Enternational
06-13-11, 11:38
I have blue eyes and I get this request all over Latin America and a few times in Asia.Well I'm Black and I get the baby thing in Latin America and Asia as well. They always say they like my color and they always wanted to have a baby my color. So I have started switching it up and telling them that I like their color before they get a chance to run the line on me.
In asia? WTF they sell whitening products like crack. I not meet a Asian who likes black. We need to walk down the street and see who they check out. I have a Spanish mate and he could not believe how many girls not even look at him when we walk arround.
I use to think it was because I am different, but when you get told so many times by normal Asian what they like then you know it not just to make small talk.
Still until we test it out enjoy the attention. Hehe
GoodEnough
06-13-11, 12:20
Mc Don, first, there are plenty of stupid guys out there. Second, ever heard of court ordered DNA testing? I see it all the time in my work.Just as an aside, I am reasonably sure that there's no court-ordered DNA testing here. I know the US Embassy will only accept the results of a DNA test if it has written verification that the alleged father of the baby has agreed to it. Further, the US Embassy at least will only accept test results from one of two labs that it specifies, so I don't think it's subject to any kind of pressure from the so-called justice system here. Then too, a court will order whatever it is that the highest bidder needs ordered, so even if, in the unlikely event a woman sued to compel DNA testing, it's likely that the man would, having more money, receive a verdict in his favor. Finally, the judicial process here drags on for years, permitting appeal after appeal, so in the event of an unfavorable ultimate verdict, it's likely the kid would be of marriageable age before anything happened.
Alleged fathers here, who refuse to acknowledge paternity, are virtually immune from any legal repercussions.
GE
Radical Guy
06-13-11, 13:24
I am a lawyer, and I practice family law here in the US. If a Filipina is able to obtain a lawyer in the jurisdiction where the US monger resides, then the state court can order the DNA testing. Many DNA testing labs have arrangements for collections of samples in other countries. Thus, if you are ordered by the state court to provide the sample, and the baby's sample is collected in the Philippines and analyzed in the US, you may very well be forced to pay child support.
RG.
Just as an aside, I am reasonably sure that there's no court-ordered DNA testing here. I know the US Embassy will only accept the results of a DNA test if it has written verification that the alleged father of the baby has agreed to it. Further, the US Embassy at least will only accept test results from one of two labs that it specifies, so I don't think it's subject to any kind of pressure from the so-called justice system here. Then too, a court will order whatever it is that the highest bidder needs ordered, so even if, in the unlikely event a woman sued to compel DNA testing, it's likely that the man would, having more money, receive a verdict in his favor. Finally, the judicial process here drags on for years, permitting appeal after appeal, so in the event of an unfavorable ultimate verdict, it's likely the kid would be of marriageable age before anything happened.
Alleged fathers here, who refuse to acknowledge paternity, are virtually immune from any legal repercussions.
GE
I am a lawyer, and I practice family law here in the US. If a Filipina is able to obtain a lawyer in the jurisdiction where the US monger resides, then the state court can order the DNA testing. Many DNA testing labs have arrangements for collections of samples in other countries. Thus, if you are ordered by the state court to provide the sample, and the baby's sample is collected in the Philippines and analyzed in the US, you may very well be forced to pay child support.
RG. Which is why you protect your identity. NEVER NEVER give out your name if you do that and tell them you are from somewhere else.
Which is why you protect your identity. NEVER NEVER give out your name if you do that and tell them you are from somewhere else.What if the baby is his? Shouldn't you be advising your brothers to do the right thing by not putting themselves in this type of situation instead of shirking their ultimate responsibility as a parent? Not preaching to you but there are enough bastards in the world as it is.
So am I but as you well know, people don't want to listen to us, even after they paid us. The problem might be that we are thinking as American attorneys and not as Filipino attorneys or judges. What GE says about the rotten to the core corruption in Phils is probably on target. There is a timely and interesting report by Jackyboy on the general info thread in connection with the Phils corrupt legal system that made for some enlightening reading.
Now, get ready for the lawyer hate mail soon to follow. It always does.
Sammon, I don't know what country you are from but in the USA many of the individual states have reciprocal agreements with foreign countries, states or provinces that contemplate the foreign citizen obtaining child support from the American non-custodial parent. Also, sometime around 2008, the USA signed off on the International Child Support Treaty at the Hague. I don't know if the treaty has been ratified yet but the US Department of Health and Human Services is pushing it hard. If it has not yet been adopted, it surely will be. To the best of my knowledge there are some amendments that are in negotiation. So right now it appears to be a state by state matter but it will soon be a uniform measure that the states will be compelled to comply with by the federal government.
Fortunately I did not learn this the hard way. I am from USA. All I am saying is it is your responsibility to acknowledge the existence of your child and your responsibility to the American Embassy. Ofcourse they will conduct paternity tests to make sure. Once you go this way the girl can try to collect child support and or immigration papers etc.
The girl by herself cannot go to American Embassy and claim paternity by a American Citizen with names and such.
The American has to initiate the action.
There is no way american embassy is going to force you to take paternity tests.
Only paternity tests I know of are ordered in USA courts if the mother is living in USA and puts a claim for child support.
Chocha Monger
06-13-11, 18:02
So am I but as you well know, people don't want to listen to us, even after they paid us. The problem might be that we are thinking as American attorneys and not as Filipino attorneys or judges. What GE says about the rotten to the core corruption in Phils is probably on target. There is a timely and interesting report by Jackyboy on the general info thread in connection with the Phils corrupt legal system that made for some enlightening reading.
Now, get ready for the lawyer hate mail soon to follow. It always does. Slippery,
I smell me some money! What do you think about a business model where an entity locates these fugitive fathers and links up the girls with an attorney in the father's state of residence on a pro bono basis for a cut of the action? I mean those lawyers representing the girls who got knocked up by Shadow Billionaire made a killing off that case. Of course, a lot of mongers don't have that kind of money but you'the only need to hit a few jackpots to make it worthwhile. A Filipina looking for her fugitive father was able to provide his name, social security number, date of birth and employer recently. I guess her mother had the foresight to examine the contents of his wallet and correspondence while his was fast asleep in post-coital bliss.
CM I smell something too but it stinks! Hahahahahaha. You are confusing the Shadow Billionaire with a Two Week milliionaire.
Legal Tender
06-13-11, 18:33
I am from USA. All I am saying is it is your responsibility to acknowledge the existence of your child and your responsibility to the American Embassy. Ofcourse they will conduct paternity tests to make sure. Once you go this way the girl can try to collect child support and or immigration papers etc.
The girl by herself cannot go to American Embassy and claim paternity by a American Citizen with names and such.
The American has to initiate the action.
There is no way american embassy is going to force you to take paternity tests.
Only paternity tests I know of are ordered in USA courts if the mother is living in USA and puts a claim for child support. "International child support cases in the United States are currently handled under bilateral federal-level arrangements or informal arrangements between individual USA states and foreign countries. Section 459A of the Social Security Act n13 outlines the conditions which must be met before the United States will enter into an agreement to enforce child support obligations for a resident of another country. Generally, the other country must have procedures in place and available to USA residents (or commit to establishing such procedures) that would enable the foreign country to establish and enforce child support obligations, including the establishment of paternity, collect and distribute child support payments, and provide any necessary legal or other services at no cost. Also, the foreign country must designate a central authority to facilitate international cases. The Office of Child Support Enforcement (OCSE) of the Department of Health and Human Services is the central USA authority for international child support. N14 The United States currently has federal reciprocity arrangements with fifteen foreign jurisdictions n15 and negotiations are underway with approximately ten more countries. Many countries do not provide free legal services in all child support cases and do not establish paternity as part of a child support case. N16 Consequently, the United States has no federal-level child support agreement with those countries."
38 Int'l Law. 493
As of this date, the following countries (or Canadian provinces) have [*71606] been designated foreign reciprocating countries:
Country Effective date
Australia May 21, 2001.
Canadian Provinces:
Alberta Sept. 4, 2002.
British Columbia Dec. 15, 1999.
Manitoba July 11, 2000.
Newfoundland/Labrador August 7, 2002.
Nova Scotia Dec. 18, 1998.
Ontario August 7, 2002.
Czech Republic May 3, 2000.
Ireland Sept. 10, 1997.
Netherlands May 1, 2002.
Norway June 10, 2002.
Poland June 14, 1999.
Portugal. Mar. 17, 2001.
Slovak Republic. Feb. 1, 1998.
WTF is this a bar association meeting? I'm falling asleep so it must be. Can I tell my state Supreme Court that I took my mandatory continuing legal education on ISG?
Chocha Monger
06-13-11, 22:00
CM I smell something too but it stinks! Hahahahahaha. You are confusing the Shadow Billionaire with a Two Week milliionaire.Slippery,
You are too kind. Most PI mongers can't come up with a million pesos in two years much less two weeks but that is no reason to hurt their feelings. Many guys are multiple divorcees on shattered pensions but at least they can feel like two peso millionaires for a week every 5 years. However, isn't that better than the alternative?
"International child support cases in the United States are currently handled under bilateral federal-level arrangements or informal arrangements between individual USA states and foreign countries. Section 459A of the Social Security Act n13 outlines the conditions which must be met before the United States will enter into an agreement to enforce child support obligations for a resident of another country. Generally, the other country must have procedures in place and available to USA residents (or commit to establishing such procedures) that would enable the foreign country to establish and enforce child support obligations, including the establishment of paternity, collect and distribute child support payments, and provide any necessary legal or other services at no cost. Also, the foreign country must designate a central authority to facilitate international cases. The Office of Child Support Enforcement (OCSE) of the Department of Health and Human Services is the central USA authority for international child support. N14 The United States currently has federal reciprocity arrangements with fifteen foreign jurisdictions n15 and negotiations are underway with approximately ten more countries. Many countries do not provide free legal services in all child support cases and do not establish paternity as part of a child support case. N16 Consequently, the United States has no federal-level child support agreement with those countries."
38 Int'l Law. 493.
As of this date, the following countries (or Canadian provinces) have [*71606] been designated foreign reciprocating countries:
Country Effective date.
Australia May 21, 2001.
Canadian Provinces:
Alberta Sept. 4,2002.
British Columbia Dec. 15, 1999.
Manitoba July 11, 2000.
Newfoundland / Labrador August 7, 2002.
Nova Scotia Dec. 18, 1998.
Ontario August 7, 2002.
Czech Republic May 3, 2000.
Ireland Sept. 10, 1997.
Netherlands May 1, 2002.
Norway June 10, 2002.
Poland June 14, 1999.
Portugal. Mar. 17, 2001.
Slovak Republic. Feb. 1,1998. There are several International agreements in place mainly on the books. Is it enforced?
I doubt it.
Going back to PHI thread area I do not think it is possible for a Phi girl to appeal to the american embassy to force a US citizen to pay child support and force the citizen to undergo paternity test.
Here we are discussing specifically Phi situation.
I am sure if it is european girl who got impregnated by US citizen, there maybe a course of action taken.
Even then I doubt these things will be taken seriously and the decision if at all may take more than a few years. By that time if the guy changes his location all things will come to a halt. I doubt even a european girl will have the financial backing involved in this lengthy court battle to get help.
This can only happen if the guy happens be famous multi millionaire. Even then I doubt any of the lawyers will be willing to travel back and forth to USA to force the issue.
GoodEnough
06-13-11, 23:51
I am a lawyer, and I practice family law here in the US. If a Filipina is able to obtain a lawyer in the jurisdiction where the US monger resides, then the state court can order the DNA testing. Many DNA testing labs have arrangements for collections of samples in other countries. Thus, if you are ordered by the state court to provide the sample, and the baby's sample is collected in the Philippines and analyzed in the US, you may very well be forced to pay child support.
RG. I have no doubt about the accuracy of your information. But I don't think it addresses the point. There's almost a zero likelihood that the average poor Filipina is going to have the knowledge, let alone the resources to find a lawyer in a specific jurisdiction in the States, and even less likelihood that she would have the means to pay the lawyer. By the time all that go sorted out, in the unlikely event that it happened, the alleged father would probably have left the Philippines. I'm not arguing the legal point, and I'm not an attorney, but the fact is that guys can and do impregnate women here with almost total impunity and never get held to account. This is not to deny that men have moral obligations to support their own children, but just to point out the sad fact of life in this corrupt country which is totally indifferent to the plight of single mothers abandoned by the fathers of their children. I get to witness the aftermath of these abandonments almost daily.
GE
Member #4491
06-14-11, 01:17
There's almost a zero likelihood that the average poor Filipina is going to have the knowledge.I have identified me as "Frank Andersson, the Swedish (pro) wrestler born 1956" for a couple of pinays. Some of them met me several times but still do not see the irregularities in this identity theft. I send them the wikipedia link and the response will be "is that really you?". Just the other day one "university student", let us call her R, asked me if my name really was "Frank Andersson, the wrestler". She suspected that she was misinformed but since she did not have any other name she believed that I was Frank Andersson still. Makes sense, doesn't it? This is a girl that met me several times and knows my age. She works as a student politician and is actually quite smart in some aspects. They would never have to if I knock them up, but I can not picture any of these girls pushing the legal process is say USA with any success. Quite a long shot.
I have mentioned a friend before, let us cal her J, that got pregnant by an American we can call Ron. She knows his full name, his work, his address in both the Philippines and in USA, his web page, etc. She even has a sister in USA, but still comes short to executing any form of legal process to get him to make any form of donation next to inviting the 2 year old to zip from his beer. The Philippino people have an amazing ability to just accept anything and blame it on "gods will". To just eat whatever any authority dish out. I am Frank and Ron is untouchable, but in reality J and R just will accept almost anything, no matter how stupid or irrational it is. They are "content with whatever hand god deals them" (read totally pacified but the history and hopelessness of this country).
The mobile repairmen assembled my phone with the keys upside down, after the repair. So now I hang up when I want to answer, unless I remember that red means green. God dealt me this hand and now I must live with it.
All the best / Frank.
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From the street or the horses mouths I gave heard the girls talk about the going to the embassy thing but only if he was a sponsor wher they have his details. There is also women's groups who help fund the leagal costs in the USA.
I know of girls getting support for babies but none I know did above. Face it 100 200 pm to know Your kid is cheep.
What if the baby is his? Shouldn't you be advising your brothers to do the right thing by not putting themselves in this type of situation instead of shirking their ultimate responsibility as a parent? Not preaching to you but there are enough bastards in the world as it is.Read my previous post before jumping the gun. I would NEVER take up the offer in first place. Like many here I too have been offered free sex to give her a white baby with blue eyes. I have also been offered money (50K USD) to swap passports marry her for 2 yrs until she gets aus citizenship and I can apply for Ukrainian if I wanted. I refused that too.
If it did happen to me then I would want DNA test done on the baby to match with mine here. I would NOT admit to it, and sign any documents there because I don't want my life ruined here. I WILL support the baby and the mother and I WILL make sure I visit regularly which I do anyway. YES its not the full deal and it may be cowardly up to an extent but like I said I don't take up those offers and I make sure I don't to always minimize my risks.
Regardless of all, protection of information is a must. Anyway that doesn't do that well can fall into a trap of many other scams that exits. People need to take that seriously.
Has any one ever seen a blue eye pino hybrid, it seems the brown eye gene is strong all the hybrids I know have brown eyes, the only gene we can pass on is the nose.
I for one not care about eye color or the nose, as long as she is skinny and has a fucking good attitude. Heheh
Fredje1961
06-14-11, 06:42
Has any one ever seen a blue eye pino hybrid, it seems the brown eye gene is strong all the hybrids I know have brown eyes, the only gene we can pass on is the nose.
I for one not care about eye color or the nose, as long as she is skinny and has a fucking good attitude. HehehCorrect: blue eyes and blond hair are in recessive genes, whereas brown eyes and black hair (straight or curly) are in dominant genes.
GoodEnough
06-14-11, 12:01
Has any one ever seen a blue eye pino hybrid, it seems the brown eye gene is strong all the hybrids I know have brown eyes, the only gene we can pass on is the nose.
I for one not care about eye color or the nose, as long as she is skinny and has a fucking good attitude. HehehIf I remember my undergraduate genetics accurately, blue eyes is recessive gene, which means that both parents would have to have it for the child to have blue eyes. Since that's unlikely in the case of "pure" Filipinas, blue eyes would be equally unlikely.
I'm casting my memory back a lot of years, and there's the strong possiblity that I'm wrong of course, but that's what I remember from old Mendel.
GE
If I remember my undergraduate genetics accurately, blue eyes is recessive gene, which means that both parents would have to have it for the child to have blue eyes. Since that's unlikely in the case of "pure" Filipinas, blue eyes would be equally unlikely.
I'm casting my memory back a lot of years, and there's the strong possiblity that I'm wrong of course, but that's what I remember from old Mendel.
GESorry GE. This is a rare case when you are incorrect (snigger and chuckle).
The genetics of eye color are not simple dominant / recessive outcomes as defined by good old Mendel but can be a mix of all manner of colors.
Eye color is very complicated, and the resulting phenotype (eye color) of a cross of variously- hued parents is determined by multiple genes (polygenes).
I will just leave it at that.
Eye color is not a reliable indicator of parentage.
My Dan had blue, my Mom brown, I ended up with Hazel, but one would never see the tint of greein unless looking into my eyes under direct sunlight. My son has been blessed with big eyes of green even though he is mostly Asian. He's made a few buck from modeling and other dubious jobs.
Sorry GE. This is a rare case when you are incorrect (snigger and chuckle).
The genetics of eye color are not simple dominant / recessive outcomes as defined by good old Mendel but can be a mix of all manner of colors.
Eye color is very complicated, and the resulting phenotype (eye color) of a cross of variously- hued parents is determined by multiple genes (polygenes).
I will just leave it at that.
Eye color is not a reliable indicator of parentage.
The genetics of eye color are not simple dominant / recessive outcomes as defined by good old Mendel but can be a mix of all manner of colors.
Eye color is very complicated, and the resulting phenotype (eye color) of a cross of variously- hued parents is determined by multiple genes (polygenes).
Eye color is not a reliable indicator of parentage. While not a reliable indicator of parentage, having green / blue eyes definitely means that you have some caucasian ancestry (as they are only found in caucasians). Trying to make a baby with blue eyes is pretty far fetched in terms of chance (as a filipina).
That said, I do think filipina-caucasian mix (or asian mix as a whole) women are, in general, more attractive than pure native.
WestCoast1
06-14-11, 19:25
While not a reliable indicator of parentage, having green / blue eyes definitely means that you have some caucasian ancestry (as they are only found in caucasians). Trying to make a baby with blue eyes is pretty far fetched in terms of chance (as a filipina).
That said, I do think filipina-caucasian mix (or asian mix as a whole) women are, in general, more attractive than pure native. Good news: pilipino schools don't dwell on genetics. The pinay 'believe' the cauc features will change her baby's face. All the better for me. . .
Cunning Stunt
06-14-11, 20:38
My Dan had blue, my Mom brown, I ended up with Hazel...Is Dan your man, and who is this Hazel that you ended up with? Was she good?
:D ;)
Chocha Monger
06-15-11, 01:07
While not a reliable indicator of parentage, having green / blue eyes definitely means that you have some caucasian ancestry (as they are only found in caucasians). Trying to make a baby with blue eyes is pretty far fetched in terms of chance (as a filipina).
That said, I do think filipina-caucasian mix (or asian mix as a whole) women are, in general, more attractive than pure native. I guess you're entitled to your opinion but frankly I prefer my Filipinas untouched and unspoiled by miscegenation. I fail to see how you can fuck up a pure pedigree and then say it's more beautiful. It's like crossing a Chihuahua with a Scottish deerhound and entering the resulting mongrel in the Westminster Dog Show.
Surely you jest."Filipinos" have to be as "miscegenated" as any "race" on the planet. Not that this matters. Look at Ichiro Suzuki, Hideo Nomo, Chan Ho Park, Hideki Irabui, etc. Fathers are all Caucasian and no one wants to talk about it. By the way, guys who knock up chicas in poor countries are ASSHOLES. Wrap it up or pinch it off!
FreebieFan
06-15-11, 04:20
Is Dan your man, and who is this Hazel that you ended up with? Was she good?Obviously you are " back" from whatever snicket you have been hiding in. LOL
I guess you're entitled to your opinion but frankly I prefer my Filipinas untouched and unspoiled by miscegenation. I fail to see how you can fuck up a pure pedigree and then say it's more beautiful. It's like crossing a Chihuahua with a Scottish deerhound and entering the resulting mongrel in the Westminster Dog Show.No way this is why I love the pina, so many have come here to mix with the natives and even some have stayed and left the family name. I for one want my arian brothers to mix it up here. We need it
Dwight Fry
06-15-11, 08:17
Has any one ever seen a blue eye pino hybrid,Sure I have seen many blue eyed filipinas. After the day is over, she removes her tinted contacts and turns back into a plain jane!
No way this is why I love the pina, so many have come here to mix with the natives and even some have stayed and left the family name. I for one want my arian brothers to mix it up here. We need itYes I vehemently agree that the best looking Filipinas are mixed. My Cebuana gf no. 1 is a quarter German, tall, long legs with big susus! Very statuesque to say the least!
Cunning Stunt
06-16-11, 10:52
When I have attended the annual UK Barrio Fiesta, I have always been mightily impressed by the beauty of the British / Filipinos in the parade or knocking around the fiesta. Where it might not work is when a dark skinned Filipina breeds with a very fair skinned partner. Once saw the produce of a Filipina and a freckled, carrot topped Scotsman and I can assure you the result was not very pretty!
Obviously you are " back" from whatever snicket you have been hiding in. LOLOn my annual pilgrimage back home so full of envy for all you guys enjoying life back in Pinay pussyland.
Here is a english and pina hybrid, I think this one worked out ok, not sure what the other girls mix is but I would guess Chinese.
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FreebieFan
06-16-11, 15:14
When I have attended the annual UK Barrio Fiesta, I have always been mightily impressed by the beauty of the British / Filipinos in the parade or knocking around the fiesta. Where it might not work is when a dark skinned Filipina breeds with a very fair skinned partner. Once saw the produce of a Filipina and a freckled, carrot topped Scotsman and I can assure you the result was not very pretty!
On my annual pilgrimage back home so full of envy for all you guys enjoying life back in Pinay pussyland.Well my weekend was great as my recent trip report would show. Hope thees ahrite ther t'old lad.
Enjoy the Branston pickle. Its right gradelin compared to that there bagoong stuff LOL. (Tyke talk in case anyone can't follow)
How is the educational system in PI?
If a filipina tells you she has a degree, is that likely to be real or one of those fake ones you can buy online?
Thanks for any advice.
It is probably a real degree but the standards may be little bit lower there than most universities in USA Not a lot but somewhat. For example, most RNs, MDs and JDs would have a little bit of trouble passing American exams in these categories. But I give them or anyone a lot of credit for getting any degree anywhere. I have 3 and each has made a big difference in my life. I'm a business professor.
How is the educational system in PI?
If a filipina tells you she has a degree, is that likely to be real or one of those fake ones you can buy online?
Thanks for any advice.
The Phiols education system is very different to that of Australia (my home country) , US, NZ, UK etc.
Their elementsry school is 6 years, mine is 7.
Their secondary school is 4 years, mine is 5.
So their high school graduates have had 10 years of schooling, mine have had 12.
So they start college with 2 years less education.
Their college system is market based, mine is centrally controlled. One size fits all.
A Phils family can send their children to the best school that they can afford.
Most Aust families could not afford to send their children to university, except that the government provides low interest loans fro students.
So some Phils colleges are very low standard schooling, and some are very high. But at least there is generally a school nearby that is affordable, and kids can get college degrees.
The system of PRC exams for all professions is a way to set a benchmark for all. The higher class universities, like UP, Ateneo, De La Salle etc generally have very high rates of success in the Board exams. The lower class colleges generally have much lower rates of success.
In general, a college degree in the Phils is about equivalent to a tech voc certificate in my country, and most other western countries.
G
One of the girls I saw in Cebu was in her last year in the nursing assistant studies and I looked at her workbook one day. Her weekly assignment for one of the classes looked like something a 6th grader or at most a junior high student would produce in US / Canada. I'm sure the better universities provide quality education on par with anywhere else in the world but the fringe schools and popular "majors" like HRM and nursing assistant outside of the better schools must be of questionable quality.
One of the girls I saw in Cebu was in her last year in the nursing assistant studies and I looked at her workbook one day. Her weekly assignment for one of the classes looked like something a 6th grader or at most a junior high student would produce in US / Canada. I'm sure the better universities provide quality education on par with anywhere else in the world but the fringe schools and popular "majors" like HRM and nursing assistant outside of the better schools must be of questionable quality.LOL I was thinking the same thing to day I was looking over one of my girls home work and it was 6th grade quality. Hehe well they like sex. There is always a place for them to work in the world, and the bf love to drink and wait for them to come home, so it is a win win
Fredje1961
06-18-11, 16:48
I remember an evening in a small restaurant in Banaue, I was watching a father helping his daughter with her maths assignment. The daughter looked like she was 9 or 10 years old.
One of her exercises was "288 + 100" and believe it or not, the father thought it useful to take his pocket calculator and give the solution as a present to the daughter.
A) the father clearly didn't have elementary knowledge of our numerical systems.
Be) the father didn't have a clue about education / coaching his daughter in finding a solution for herself.
Maybe this was an exception and it tells probably more about the father than about the daughter, but still, I didn't feel like the girl had a head start in her academic career.
One of the girls I saw in Cebu was in her last year in the nursing assistant studies and I looked at her workbook one day. Her weekly assignment for one of the classes looked like something a 6th grader or at most a junior high student would produce in US / Canada. I'm sure the better universities provide quality education on par with anywhere else in the world but the fringe schools and popular "majors" like HRM and nursing assistant outside of the better schools must be of questionable quality.
It is probably a real degree but the standards may be little bit lower there than most universities in USA Not a lot but somewhat. For example, most RNs, MDs and JDs would have a little bit of trouble passing American exams in these categories. But I give them or anyone a lot of credit for getting any degree anywhere. I have 3 and each has made a big difference in my life. I'm a business professor.Interesting. Good to know.
LOL I was thinking the same thing to day I was looking over one of my girls home work and it was 6th grade quality. Hehe well they like sex. There is always a place for them to work in the world, and the bf love to drink and wait for them to come home, so it is a win winLOL good one.
Member #4491
06-18-11, 22:20
How is the educational system in PI?Pathetic, sums it up quite accurately.
B
It's "nursing assistant", not RN so of course the workload is going to be a lot less.
One of the girls I saw in Cebu was in her last year in the nursing assistant studies and I looked at her workbook one day. Her weekly assignment for one of the classes looked like something a 6th grader or at most a junior high student would produce in US / Canada. I'm sure the better universities provide quality education on par with anywhere else in the world but the fringe schools and popular "majors" like HRM and nursing assistant outside of the better schools must be of questionable quality.
Member #4491
06-18-11, 22:56
It is probably a real degree but the standards may be little bit lower there than most universities in USA Not a lot but somewhat. For example, most RNs, MDs and JDs would have a little bit of trouble passing American exams in these categories. But I give them or anyone a lot of credit for getting any degree anywhere. I have 3 and each has made a big difference in my life. I'm a business professor.I have struggled quite a bit with recruitments within the IT sector and sad to say, even the best "universities" of at least Mindanao are a big joke. I would say that a first year IT student in Scandinavia is better equipped than a person that just finished his "degree" in Mindanao. I have interviewed / tested, and in some cases hired & fired, all from programming teachers and an assisting professors to self educated home hackers, and the only pattern I see in indicating some sort of reliability when it comes to production, quality and capacity to deliver, is purely coincidental and never related to the education itself. Without a large portion of self motivation, you will end up as an Internet Café attendant after 4-5 years in university, unless some private entrepreneur decides to train you. Last trip to Pi I sat down with the two head responsible for the software development education in one of the universities that produce the "best" students considering the results of the national tests and national programming competitions. These guys lacked the most fundamental understanding of most things we discussed (except the part where I would sponsor the University with Android phones for free development of whatever I wanted). I am not talking advanced and abstracts concepts, but simple and down to earth topics such as as why it is good to separate the one day signalling theory "course" from the application development "course" in the telecommunication curriculum. These areas of knowledge normally will actually define what type of engineer you are going to be, but these air heads had selected some sporadic topics and mixed it into their generic telecommunication course. The equivalent would be something like having a doctor studying a morning of psychiatry followed by an afternoon of brain surgery, and then give him a license to do both. Simply frightening to think that these guys have a say about anything that has to do with anything. I now have zero confidence in the educational system of the Philippines, simply because a vast majority of the 100+ engineers / developers I worked with and / or tested did not have skills that would even measure with an average developer of my home country. A few are good, but this is normally a result of self motivation and training at home, together with a huge doze of "on the job"-training after graduation. Any engineer mus ask the question "why?". A "why?" was rewarded in the Pi with a whip or a bullet for the last 400 years and nowadays the concept of providing a facade education for a quick buck is prevalent. What a hopeless situation indeed.
B
It's "nursing assistant", not RN so of course the workload is going to be a lot less.No argument there and I thought I was clearly pointing out that this was the case for studies such as nursing assistant and HRM. Nevertheless, I expected to see something higher than 6th grade level for someone in the final year of nursing assistant studies.
GoodEnough
06-19-11, 02:52
Actually, the standards are dramatically lower, so low in fact that the EU has stopped accepting degrees from most universities here. I work with more than 25 colleges and universities in Mindanao, and I can assure you that the level of scholarship in most would not be acceptable at any university with which I'm familiar in the US. I've reviewed Master's theses here that wouldn't pass as cceptable term papers in high schools i the West. The same goes for many Ph. D. dissertations.
There are lots of reasons for this, but in the end, they all come down to poverty. Universities are poorly funded, even the private schools. The curricula are badly out of date, and the qualifications of many faculty are wholly inadequate. Then too, the Philippines offers only ten years of elementary and secondary education, which means that kids arrive at college-at about age 16-lacking a vital two years of schooling. Universities here also have about the shortest number of classroom hours I've ever seen, with endless class interruptions for such momentous events as "founder's day" or "intramural athletics" or whatever.
I'm not speaking here of Ateneo de Manila, UP Diliman or De La Salle, which stand well apart from the rest, though even these would be considered middle rung universities in the US or Europe.
I was once told by the president of one of the largest university systems in Mindanao that the only faculty "worth a damn" were those who had been trained outside the country, and I believe it. The level of scholarship that many of us take for granted in the places in which we were trained just doesn't exist here. I've seen university libraries that aren't as large as my high school library.
GE
Just so we retain proper standards on a hooker board, it cannot be "Master's theses." "Theses" is plural so the possessive must also be plural: Masters' theses.
They get out of high school at 16 where I live too and I'd add the college freshmen thus lack not only two additional years of schooling, but two additional years of maturity. For sure, four hours a day x 10 years is not the same as 6 hours a day x 12 years.
GoodEnough
06-19-11, 10:16
Just so we retain proper standards on a hooker board, it cannot be "Master's theses." "Theses" is plural so the possessive must also be plural: Masters' theses.
They get out of high school at 16 where I live too and I'd add the college freshmen thus lack not only two additional years of schooling, but two additional years of maturity. For sure, four hours a day x 10 years is not the same as 6 hours a day x 12 years. You're correct and I stand properly chastised. However, the conclusion in either case is the same, whether Master's Thesis or Masters' Theses, the quality is abysmal, but for anyone who has spent time in any classrooms here, that would not be surprising.
Met this girl on DIA, she is very pretty and she seems to like me. So, one thing leads to another, I am taking the proper precautions, etc. She gets a little perturbed when I start to wrap up Johnny. She later asks me if I would give her a baby. I have only known her about a month. She knows I have a good job, even by Kano standards, promises she would not want support etc. She is NOT very experienced at sex, in fact, very inexperienced especially for the age she is. She is a proper girl, not a bargirl and she is not living in the PI. She has no need to immigrate as she is already in a nice country. She also seems very starry eyed about kids, etc. I wonder what her motivation is. She would probably loose her job, have to return to the PI if she had a baby. The big question is, is she trying to immigrate to my country by having a baby from me? Does she infact want support? I am trying to figure this out. At my age I should be better at reading her motivations but honestly, we are running in different circles intellectually. I know she does like me a lot from her mannerisms but telling a guy "I want to have your baby and I won't want anything from you after that is a bit bizzare". I like her and care for her, but probably not to the needed degree for me to have a kid with her. I think the best thing is to throw her back in the pond and let her seek a man that truly wants to have a family. I think she is willing to settle for a baby that she thinks of as a toy and maybe. She would get support or marriage in the deal. I was really floored by her request. I guess that is the female version of farting in bed.
Anyone else out there with similar encounters?
The best thing for you to do is to have the reversable vasectomy and then fuck the snot out of her until she goes away.
Chocha Monger
06-19-11, 22:07
Met this girl on DIA, she is very pretty and she seems to like me. So, one thing leads to another, I am taking the proper precautions, etc. She gets a little perturbed when I start to wrap up Johnny. She later asks me if I would give her a baby. I have only known her about a month. She knows I have a good job, even by Kano standards, promises she would not want support etc. She is NOT very experienced at sex, in fact, very inexperienced especially for the age she is. She is a proper girl, not a bargirl and she is not living in the PI. She has no need to immigrate as she is already in a nice country. She also seems very starry eyed about kids, etc. I wonder what her motivation is. She would probably loose her job, have to return to the PI if she had a baby. The big question is, is she trying to immigrate to my country by having a baby from me? Does she infact want support? I am trying to figure this out. At my age I should be better at reading her motivations but honestly, we are running in different circles intellectually. I know she does like me a lot from her mannerisms but telling a guy "I want to have your baby and I won't want anything from you after that is a bit bizzare". I like her and care for her, but probably not to the needed degree for me to have a kid with her. I think the best thing is to throw her back in the pond and let her seek a man that truly wants to have a family. I think she is willing to settle for a baby that she thinks of as a toy and maybe. She would get support or marriage in the deal. I was really floored by her request. I guess that is the female version of farting in bed.
Anyone else out there with similar encounters? Okay, she is young very pretty and works. All she wants you to do is cum in her pussy. If you don't want to do it there are hundreds on guys on here who are willing. Just post a link to her DIA profile.
. . . . . . . The big question is, is she trying to immigrate to my country by having a baby from me? Does she infact want support? I am trying to figure this out. At my age I should be better at reading her motivations but honestly, we are running in different circles intellectually. I know she does like me a lot from her mannerisms but telling a guy "I want to have your baby and I won't want anything from you after that is a bit bizzare". I like her and care for her, but probably not to the needed degree for me to have a kid with her. I think the best thing is to throw her back in the pond and let her seek a man that truly wants to have a family. I think she is willing to settle for a baby that she thinks of as a toy . . . . . .Your post is a bit naive FFF and you should read a few of the earlier posts here for a lengthy discussion about this (go to pages 3, 4 and 5 on this very thread).
Filipinas are desperate to have pointy nosed babies, taller than usual and with light colored skin, even if the hubby is not like this. The first thing they comment when a new baby is born is "he / she has light skin" OR "He/she has a good nose". They dream of having a star basketballer (male) or a show business beauty / model (daughter).
The odds on this result happening are magnified in their minds if the father is a foreigner, hence the relentless pursuit of the caucasian sperm to be inserted into her baby-making factory.
DO NOT believe what she says about support etc. Wrap up Johnny or better still, have the vasectomy and then you can have fun in the shooting range without using live ammunition.
Have a read of the earlier discussion too.
The big question is, is she trying to immigrate to my country by having a baby from me? Does she infact want support?
Anyone else out there with similar encounters? Have been asked over a dozen times from Pinays to father a baby, no strings attached! The truth is they want a fair haired baby with Caucasian features. There has been a rash of babies being born from various ethnic women while traveling stateside. When this occurs, their baby automatically becomes a citizen!
DriveAllNight
06-20-11, 05:28
There has been a rash of babies being born from various ethnic women while traveling stateside. When this occurs, their baby automatically becomes a citizen!Has there been a rash of this? Interesting. If you don't mind, please post a few links. Thanks.
Have been asked over a dozen times from Pinays to father a baby, no strings attached! The truth is they want a fair haired baby with Caucasian features. There has been a rash of babies being born from various ethnic women while traveling stateside. When this occurs, their baby automatically becomes a citizen!The term is called "Anchor Babies". When a baby is born in the US, the baby is automatically a US citizen, even if the parents are illegal aliens. It gets complicated, but they then can have access to some govt benefits and possibly a path for the parents to green cards or even citizenship. Not sure what country you are talking about, so this might not be the case where you are located. The cost is courtesy of the US taxpayer.
You never know what her intentions will be after the baby is born. Things can change quickly at that point as reality sets in.
Chocha Monger
06-20-11, 06:38
the term is called "anchor babies". when a baby is born in the us, the baby is automatically a us citizen, even if the parents are illegal aliens. it gets complicated, but they then can have access to some govt benefits and possibly a path for the parents to green cards or even citizenship. not sure what country you are talking about, so this might not be the case where you are located. the cost is courtesy of the us taxpayer.
you never know what her intentions will be after the baby is born. things can change quickly at that point as reality sets in. of course, things will "change" after he bakes that cream pie in her hole. it always does but she has to say something to entice him into doing it. if she told him to knock her up then pay her monthly for the next 18 yrs the deal doesn't sound so appealing. american girls say the same thing but when they take you to court the judge doesn't care about what false promises she made when you fired away your tor****es in her hole and shivered her timbers.
This is a genuine question. Don't laugh please.
I have noticed more and more girls seem to have braces on their teeth these days.
I met a real cutie for a coffee last week. She has a smoking hot body (one baby) and she is really nice and wants our next meeting to be alone and she has told me all the things she is going to do to me.
Problem (for me) is that she has a mouth full of braces on her teeth (top and bottom) and I am trying to visualise or imagine the erotic outcome of (a) kissing her and (b) receiving a blow job from her.
I don't want bleeding gums, a cut tongue or a lacerated dick either.
Anybody have any experiences with this? Should I go for it and post a report (no pics hehe) , or might it be better to wait for another hot body with no braces?
Marconista
06-20-11, 10:02
They might be fake and just some kind of jewelry she put on. I have seen similar in Europe.
This is a genuine question. Don't laugh please.
I have noticed more and more girls seem to have braces on their teeth these days.
They might be fake and just some kind of jewelry she put on. I have seen similar in Europe.They are not fake. I have already spent an hour with her having some drinks and a chat.
WTF would any woman want to wear fake teeth braces? They are in no way flattering, sexy or attractive.
Marconista
06-20-11, 11:00
It's called "Fashion" and its a way to flash that they can afford braces.
WTF would any woman want to wear fake teeth braces? They are in no way flattering, sexy or attractive.
It's called "Fashion" and its a way to flash that they can afford braces.I think it is has more to do with dentist bank account rather than fashion.
Everywhere in the world these braces suddendly became popular.
Once upon a time they were costly, complicate to handle and used only in very young kids, so to correct and direct the growth of new teeth properly.
Now dentists have to make money and they are selling anything they can.
I am well over 50 and have been offered braces by my dentist to correct some teeth posture.
I answered him that by the time teeth will be properly place I might be in a coffin!
Simialrly he even proposed to do some "surgery injectioons" to correct some wrinkles.
WTF. He is milking enough money already. And still not happy?
Coming back on topic, I see that lots of asian have tooth posture issues and in the meantime braces became cheaper and easier to fit, so it became a bit of a fashion and most likely your assumption (flashing wealthy) plays a role too
If a filipina tells you she went to college / uni but doesn't like to read, is that a bad sign?
Thanks in advance as usual for your advice. This is a particularly interesting thread to read.
Sxyman
Coming back on topic, I see that lots of asian have tooth posture issues and in the meantime braces became cheaper and easier to fit, so it became a bit of a fashion and most likely your assumption (flashing wealthy) plays a role tooNone of the answers address my simple question:
What does a blow job from a girl with braces on her teeth feel like?
What about kissing?
I can imagine what might happen but just interested to know more because I am sure this girl is worth following up.
In her case, she has issues with crooked teeth and the braces are expected to fix that. It is not all dentists ripping off patients (for some of you cynics).
Djibouti Lover
06-20-11, 12:12
Have been asked over a dozen times from Pinays to father a baby, no strings attached! The truth is they want a fair haired baby with Caucasian features. There has been a rash of babies being born from various ethnic women while traveling stateside. When this occurs, their baby automatically becomes a citizen!The last thing the PI (and the planet) needs is more babies, I don't care if they are blond haired cherubs. Do everyone a favor and say NO!
This is a genuine question. Don't laugh please.
I have noticed more and more girls seem to have braces on their teeth these days.
I met a real cutie for a coffee last week. She has a smoking hot body (one baby) and she is really nice and wants our next meeting to be alone and she has told me all the things she is going to do to me.
Problem (for me) is that she has a mouth full of braces on her teeth (top and bottom) and I am trying to visualise or imagine the erotic outcome of (a) kissing her and (be) receiving a blow job from her.
I don't want bleeding gums, a cut tongue or a lacerated dick either.
Anybody have any experiences with this? Should I go for it and post a report (no pics hehe) , or might it be better to wait for another hot body with no braces? I noticed this phenomenom in Brazil years ago. Girls there love showing off their braces, getting different colors, etc. A big departure from the shame associated with them when I was a kid.
Black and Decker Pecker Wrecker jokes aside, you should not notice any difference in kissing or BJ. Occasionally you may encounter the attachments with your tongue but no big deal and I have never been cut. These are not the monstrocities that were around 30 years ago.
Towelboy2010
06-20-11, 13:38
My fiance is a Registered Nurse for 11 years in Singapore. We have filed for a fiance visa that should be granted by October. November.
My finace wants to help support her mother. OK by me since she will have a good job here. She also has significant savings from working in Singapore.
HERE IS THE PROBLEM. She also wants to buy [2] trikes that her Mom can rent to drivers at 100 php per day. The new trikes cost 60, 000 pesos. She likes the idea of 200 pesos per day income for her mother. Her brother there can assist her Mom if there is trouble or help is needed. The 120, 000 pesos for new trikes is only about 10% of her savings so money is not an issue.
I think it is a bad idea for a whole host of reasons.
1. If the trikes are stolen they are lost for good.
2. If the trikes are wrecked any gained income will be lost in repairs.
3. My guess is that her Mom can't adequately manage the drivers & they will take advantage of her.
Does anyone have thoughts on this idea?
Is there a less risky way for her to provide for her mom there?
Thanks, Bob
Chocha Monger
06-20-11, 14:34
Metal braces can scratch genital areas or rip a hole in a condom, increasing the potential for sexually transmitted diseases such as HIV / AIDS, cautions Boston cosmetic dentist Helaine Smith. She has issued a warning to teenagers engaging in sexual practices such as oral sex or French kissing, saying they should be cautious if they or their partners wear metal braces on their teeth.
Metal braces can scratch delicate genital areas, tear sensitive mouth tissues, or rip a hole in a condom. Such incidents increase the potential for sexually transmitted diseases and blood-borne pathogens, including HIV / AIDS, chlamydia, and hepatitis B and C.
Most teens and young adults don't realize that metal dental braces can do some damage. `And while new dental.
Technologies such as Invisalign and plastic braces have been introduced, the fact is, many dentists still rely on the traditional metal braces and their nickel titanium brackets, wires, and ties. Even plastic braces still use metal wires and ties that can cause damage.
Because the metal brackets and wires can catch on the thin latex of condoms and dental dams and cause microscopic tears, Dr. Smith advises teens and young adults to carefully consider whether to engage in oral sex with partners who wear wire braces. Safer sex practices also include changing the condom before engaging in another sexual activity in order to reduce the risk of STDs and / or unintended pregnancy – even if one thinks the condom has not been damaged.
Dental dams, which are also made of latex, are used when performing oral sex on a woman and protect against herpes and genital warts. Dr. Smith advises young adults to also exercise caution when participating in long kissing sessions with partners who wear braces because the brackets can tear delicate mouth tissues and increase the exposure to blood-borne pathogens and STDs such as HIV / AIDs.
Screaming Beaver
06-20-11, 15:22
Metal braces can scratch delicate genital areas,I met this one a few months ago. She was proud as a peacock showing off her braces. She also knew what she was doing since I was not injured when I popped my weiner in her mouth.
MadisonGuy
06-20-11, 15:23
My fiance is a Registered Nurse for 11 years in Singapore. We have filed for a fiance visa that should be granted by October. November.
My finace wants to help support her mother. OK by me since she will have a good job here. She also has significant savings from working in Singapore.
HERE IS THE PROBLEM. She also wants to buy [2] trikes that her Mom can rent to drivers at 100 php per day. The new trikes cost 60, 000 pesos. She likes the idea of 200 pesos per day income for her mother. Her brother there can assist her Mom if there is trouble or help is needed. The 120, 000 pesos for new trikes is only about 10% of her savings so money is not an issue.
I think it is a bad idea for a whole host of reasons.
1. If the trikes are stolen they are lost for good.
2. If the trikes are wrecked any gained income will be lost in repairs.
3. My guess is that her Mom can't adequately manage the drivers & they will take advantage of her.
Does anyone have thoughts on this idea?
Is there a less risky way for her to provide for her mom there?
Thanks, BobBob.
I would let her do it, trying to talk her out of it will probably lead to more problems than it's worth. You are probably right in all your doubts. I'm married to a foreigner and being right doesn't amount to much except fights.
WestCoast1
06-20-11, 15:23
None of the answers address my simple question:
What does a blow job from a girl with braces on her teeth feel like? Nothing if the girl is careful. Never met a girl who was not careful with it. I've come (cum) across the braces of latinas, pinay, indo, and two mid-thirties blonds in my country. Never a problem.
What about kissing?You make this your own problem if your too aggressive. Never been a problem.
DriveAllNight
06-20-11, 15:27
The term is called "Anchor Babies". When a baby is born in the US, the baby is automatically a US citizen, even if the parents are illegal aliens. It gets complicated, but they then can have access to some govt benefits and possibly a path for the parents to green cards or even citizenship. Not sure what country you are talking about, so this might not be the case where you are located. The cost is courtesy of the US taxpayer.
You never know what her intentions will be after the baby is born. Things can change quickly at that point as reality sets in. But I'm asking about there being a "rash" of anchor babies. Is this actually a widespread problem, or even a common occurrence? I'd just like to see some documentation of this, if anyone can provide links. Thanks again.
WestCoast1
06-20-11, 15:29
Bob.
I would let her do it, trying to talk her out of it will probably lead to more problems than it's worth. You are probably right in all your doubts. I'm married to a foreigner and being right doesn't amount to much except fights.
What kind of skills does mom have? Help her find a job and stop thinking up hair-brained dumbass schemes! Just my opinion.Both probably right. But it seems to be an undying dream of pinay to help their family, and that almost always means attempting to put their family on easy street, where the parents can do as little as possible and still make money. Just an observation. Invariably the trykes will be in disrepair. No more income. Too cheap or lazy to fix. The p200 / day income, even if saved up, will probably not cover the repairs. Yes, its a bad idea. But, its her dream, built into her by 2000 years of culture. Let her do it, let it fail, don't invest your own money. She'll be happy for a while. Logic is in short supply there.
But I'm asking about there being a "rash" of anchor babies. Is this actually a widespread problem, or even a common occurrence? I'd just like to see some documentation of this, if anyone can provide links. Thanks again."In Parkland Memorial Hospital Dallas, the second busiest maternity ward in the United States. 70% of the women giving birth were illegal aliens. That added up to 11, 200 babies for which Medicaid kicked in 34. 5 million dollars to deliver these babies, the feds another 9. 5 million and Dallas taxpayers tossed in 31. 3 million. The average illegal patient is 25 years and giving birth to her second anchor baby."
-Reiniers, John. Hernando Today,"Anchor Babies." January 25, 2008.
This is a copy from a website called fairus. Org. I'm sure you can google Anchor Babies and find many links. But, I'm not sure if you want US info or Philippine sources.
Sorry I have to disagree completely with your sweeping generalisation. I lived with a Filipina for 7 years in Europe and though she had (what I considered to be) many faults, arrogance and being loud mouthed were not some of them. My gf had already gained residency in my country and had a well paid job, so she had nothing to gain in a material sense from being with me and I also knew many of her Filipina friends who also do not fit the profile you have described. However I do agree that bringing a girl back from the Philippines to your own country is fraught with difficulties and dangers many of which have already been debated at great length before on this and other threads and I have nothing of value to add to those discussions.
To be fair, the vast majority of Filipinas I know and have met in my own country have been shy, reserved and respectful, the complete opposite of what you describe. These are the qualities that I find attractive in Filipinas and they ensure my repeated visits to the Phillipines several times each year. Very interesting. Now in your opinion do filipinas in europe and elsewhere out of their country engage in "game playing" (rules etc) like not answering their sms etc? Just wondering whether they become like the locals after some years in europe.
Member #4491
06-21-11, 15:22
This is a genuine question. Don't laugh please.
I have noticed more and more girls seem to have braces on their teeth these days.RK, I have a mistress from South America and she has braces. I love to cum over them, and they never bothered me. She has a good job and likes to travel, and she will suck my cock violently wherever we meet. Preferably outdoors in some beach or national park. I feel the braces when I kiss her, but it is a turn on for me.
B
Chocha Monger
06-21-11, 16:37
Very interesting. Now in your opinion do filipinas in europe and elsewhere out of their country engage in "game playing" (rules etc) like not answering their sms etc? Just wondering whether they become like the locals after some years in europe.In the USA they quickly assimilate into the local female population and the game playing is usually indistinguishable from that of native born women. In some cases the games can be worse if the Filipnas are better looking than average. In the USA better looking than average can simply mean skinny and having some "exotic" appeal. The same concept where fat old bald guys transform into handsome men in the Philippines applies to Filipinas in the US and thus they behave accordingly.
Very interesting. Now in your opinion do filipinas in europe and elsewhere out of their country engage in "game playing" (rules etc) like not answering their sms etc? Just wondering whether they become like the locals after some years in europe.CM's post has aptly and succinctly summed up what I wanted to say in reply. That is probably the reason why my gf is now my ex gf. If I ever have the (mis) fortune to settle down with another Filipina, I would NEVER bring her back to my own country. Some relationships that are exported to the man's home country do work out but I think the odds are generally stacked against a happy ever after ending.
SergeantRay
06-21-11, 22:09
CM's post has aptly and succinctly summed up what I wanted to say in reply. That is probably the reason why my gf is now my ex gf. If I ever have the (mis) fortune to settle down with another Filipina, I would NEVER bring her back to my own country. Some relationships that are exported to the man's home country do work out but I think the odds are generally stacked against a happy ever after ending.Let us imagine you are on an island full of women in their seventies, so you pair up with the only woman on the island in her fifties. Imagine you are on an island where all the women weigh three hundred pounds or more, so you pair up with a "slim" woman who only weighs 190 pounds. What happens when you bring either woman back from the island to your home country? It all falls apart.
My mentor is an Australian in his 70s who is an old PI pro. He knows from experience DO NOT TAKE THEM TO YOUR HOME COUNTRY! It is bound to fail.
I know many sad cases of guys who bring them back, have vasectomies reversed, sponsor her parents to come to the US, and then lose it all and end up making child support payments.
RK, I have a mistress from South America and she has braces. I love to cum over them, and they never bothered me. She has a good job and likes to travel, and she will suck my cock violently wherever we meet. Preferably outdoors in some beach or national park. I feel the braces when I kiss her, but it is a turn on for me.
BThanks Barba, and to all the other reassuring posters who suggest that it will all be OK.
I will give it a run.
For those newbies who are planning to visit the Philippines soon I suggest that you prepare yourself to deal with a few irritating questions or statements that almost all filipinas seem to make.
The 3 major irritants for me (in order) are:
1. Do you mind if I ask you a question?
2. I don't know. It's up to you.
3. Did you eat your (breakfast, lunch, dinner, snack) yet?
We have dealt with #3 ad nauseum on this site but it still aggravates and I treat it as a rhetorical question and never answer.
#2 is just their way of saying "I have absolutely no idea" but when they say it in reference to how much cash they expect from you they know exactly what they expect.
#1 just plain annoys me. I always answer "why?" It is unexpected, and throws them when they are expecting either a "Yes","No" or "Depends".
Soapy Smith
06-27-11, 08:16
If a filipina tells you she went to college / uni but doesn't like to read, is that a bad sign?
Thanks in advance as usual for your advice. This is a particularly interesting thread to read. SxymanIt is not necessarily a bad sign. It is in fact fairly typical for Filipino students to read only when they have to. I was recently treated to tea in a coffee shop attached to the main library of one of the major universities in the country. The main activity in the shop was a circular counter on which students could log their laptops into some sort of internet connection. Were they there logging into the library's book catalog? Hell no, they were all logged onto Facebook, Twitter, etc. They don't read; it's a national tradition that has also spread to universities in many Western countries.
FreebieFan
06-27-11, 13:32
3. Did you eat your (breakfast, lunch, dinner, snack) yet?
We have dealt with #3 ad nauseum on this site but it still aggravates and I treat it as a rhetorical question and never answer.
#1. A sweet petite Filipina (who apartment I was privileged to stay in one my last trip) has a great sense of humour.
Now when I text her " have you eaten your lunch ", she replies " have you been to the bathroom yet?
I say " have you remembered to shower" and she says " did you remember to flush the toilet?" etc. So refreshing to find a Filipina who can understand this major irritant and deal with it in a funny way.
Then again she also told me she gets very upset if a guy sends her more than 5 sms a day. What a girl!
A sweet petite Filipina (who apartment I was privileged to stay in one my last trip) has a great sense of humour.
Now when I text her " have you eaten your lunch ", she replies " have you been to the bathroom yet?
I say " have you remembered to shower" and she says " did you remember to flush the toilet?" etc. So refreshing to find a Filipina who can understand this major irritant and deal with it in a funny way.
Then again she also told me she gets very upset if a guy sends her more than 5 sms a day. What a girl! That is a rare specimen indeed FF. Keep her number tight. They are so refreshing to find. Probably 1 in a 100.
Member #4351
06-28-11, 13:19
A GF who attends one of the better private universities here in Cebu confirmed for me that many of her classmates use braces as a cosmetic decoration, just as they do contact lenses. I suppose its a fad, but as one who suffered with braces it seems strange to me. That said, I suppose they don't have to go through the pain of having them tightened since they are just for show.
A GF who attends one of the better private universities here in Cebu confirmed for me that many of her classmates use braces as a cosmetic decoration, just as they do contact lenses. I suppose its a fad, but as one who suffered with braces it seems strange to me. That said, I suppose they don't have to go through the pain of having them tightened since they are just for show.As crazy as it sounds, yes my girls confirmed it. I have I FF who has them now I know why
FreebieFan
06-28-11, 15:55
That is a rare specimen indeed FF. Keep her number tight. They are so refreshing to find. Probably 1 in a 100.Actually RK the best part of said lady, is the positioning of said ladies puss. Its made perfectly for rear entry. I mean its just at a perfect angle for entrance.
Sometimes that cervical bone makes its awkward but little Miss Funny is the just made for doggie. Theres no other way to describe it. Must send her sms and ask her if she's had a snack LOL
Tank Not Mt
06-28-11, 20:36
I am looking to go for the first time to the Philippines with some buddys-late 50s-for some sun, beaches, golf and pussy. Any advice as to where are the best places to go?
Go to Mactan, outside of Cebu. Play golf, do the beach and find a girl to take care of your putters.
Buy the girls bikinis and start touring golf courses. Use Google plus always RTFF.
Downside, your stroke will get better but weak knees will cause your game to slump.
Enjoy.
I am looking to go for the first time to the Philippines with some buddys-late 50s-for some sun, beaches, golf and pussy. Any advice as to where are the best places to go?
Go to Mactan, outside of Cebu. Play golf, do the beach and find a girl to take care of your putters.
Buy the girls bikinis and start touring golf courses. Use Google plus always RTFF.
Downside, your stroke will get better but weak knees will cause your game to slump.
Enjoy. My advice would be stay away from Mactan if beaches are important. I have stayed at two resorts on Mactan plus visited a couple of others. The beaches are more like mud flats, not very pretty and not so nice for swimming either as the water always seemed dirty to me. You can take a boat trip out to the island where there is a nature reserve and where I believe they have some nice beaches, but forget white golden sandy beaches on Mactan. It is also too far from the action in Cebu City, although there are a few bars on Mactan it lacks the vibrancy of Cebu City. The resorts themselves are very overpriced and you can generally stay at the Marriot or Waterfront hotels in Lahug (both top of the range hotels) for far less than you pay on Mactan.
About the golf I can't advise!
I am looking to go for the first time to the Philippines with some buddys-late 50s-for some sun, beaches, golf and pussy. Any advice as to where are the best places to go?Go to Davao. Best golf courses in the Philippines.
Makeupaname
07-01-11, 03:13
From another thread.
"You may have noticed the girls will almost always ask if you've been to the Philippines before. Your innocent chats are not so innocent. You're being sized up"
I always get asked this. Does a filipinas view of you change when you tell them yes?
From another thread.
"You may have noticed the girls will almost always ask if you've been to the Philippines before. Your innocent chats are not so innocent. You're being sized up"
I always get asked this. Does a filipinas view of you change when you tell them yes?I think so. I think if you say no, they know another pina has not emptied your life savings. LOL
FreebieFan
07-01-11, 03:51
I think so. I think if you say no, they know another pina has not emptied your life savings. LOLWhat a sad and uninformed comment. Maybe you attract scammers but in 25 years of visiting, living and playing there I never have been scammed. Its all about not acepting every story at face value and listening to what your instinct is telling you.
Theres no such thing as a free lunch and free sex only happens because you create the chemistry to make it happen.
Scams however are also because you let that happen.
You go in a bar and a girl will always ask if its your first time. Sure she's figuring if you know the prices.
She asks where you stay. Higher the price of the hotel, higher the possible return.
Surely any and every guy entering a bar knows this.
But no need to think they all play scams. Develop some instincts and let them guide you well.
What a sad and uninformed comment. Maybe you attract scammers but in 25 years of visiting, living and playing there I never have been scammed. Its all about not acepting every story at face value and listening to what your instinct is telling you.
Theres no such thing as a free lunch and free sex only happens because you create the chemistry to make it happen.
Scams however are also because you let that happen.
You go in a bar and a girl will always ask if its your first time. Sure she's figuring if you know the prices.
She asks where you stay. Higher the price of the hotel, higher the possible return.
Surely any and every guy entering a bar knows this.
But no need to think they all play scams. Develop some instincts and let them guide you well.Lighten up what do you think "LOL" stands for?
Check some of my posts I have gf 1 and gf2 here with me in Cebu.
I love pina
Must Be Jelly
07-01-11, 19:18
Hello All,
This is my first post to this site. I am a senior member on USAG. I met a 36 y/o woman on DIA and we have been talking live with a webcam thanks to Yahoo for almost 3 months. I am now planning to take a trip and visit her in Cebu. We are both marriage minded. I have spoken with other girls from DIA and the all would like me to send them money. The 36 why / o has not asked me for anything and even when I have offered she has declined. I did send her a birthday card with a small amount of money in it but not becaused she asked. She has never been married but has 2 children and never married, lives with her mother. Unlike other girls I have spoken with she has a computer and the internet at her home and all the others go to an internet cafe, so I am assuming that her family may be better off than most but not having any experience in other parts of the world I am not sure. At first if I even brought up the subject of sex she would scold me and ask if that was all I wanted and if it was to just keep on moving because she was not that kind of girl. After we discussed my visiting she has sent me a few pictures of herself but nothing too revealing than an ass cheek. She has also started to give me details of how she will satisfy me sexually while I am there.
I am feeling confident that this girl is being honest with me but I have read this forum and it has caused me to think more about it.
I would appreciate any advice or thoughts on this subject.
Thanks
GoodEnough
07-01-11, 23:46
@Must be Jelly:
This topic has been addressed many times on various threads, and it's always pretty consistent: go slowly. Take the time to get to know the lady. Take the time to know her family. Take the time to adjust to being here because, if you've not traveled much, it will be different from any place you've ever known. Don't let the great sex warp your judgement, and don't let yourself get pressured into making decisions. That is, recognize that you're somewhat disoriented, and subject to post-coital languor. Remember, this is a culture that you won't understand without a great deal of work, and she's going to try to be your guide, your map in a region you don't know, so the tendency will be for you to rely on her and to trust her.
The fact that she's never asked you for money is a good sign, but it's not definitive or probative. Give yourself the time to reach some rational decisions made with your large brain. I also suggest you resist even thinking about staying at her house where you will be under the careful scrutiny of the family. Stay in a hotel which will give you your own space and do not get sucked into spending every minute with her and her family. Make some time for yourself; take some time away from her and go talk to some of the expats who live there; hit some of the bars so that, even if you don't take any of the girls, you will have a sense of what life can be like here if you're unattached and uncommitted.
This lady could be everything she seems, or not. All you've got so far is a relationship in cyberspace where people can be whatever they want to be. Take the time to verify your assumptions, and to assess what you really want out of this and don't pre-commit yourself to anything irrevocable.
GE
Hello, All,
This is my first post to this site. I am a senior member on USAG. I met a 36 why / o woman on DIA and we have been talking live with a webcam thanks to Yahoo for almost 3 months. I am now planning to take a trip and visit her in Cebu. We are both marriage minded. I have spoken with other girls from DIA and the all would like me to send them money. The 36 why / o has not asked me for anything and even when I have offered she has declined. I did send her a birthday card with a small amount of money in it but not becaused she asked. She has never been married but has 2 children and never married, lives with her mother. Unlike other girls I have spoken with she has a computer and the internet at her home and all the others go to an internet cafe, so I am assuming that her family may be better off than most but not having any experience in other parts of the world I am not sure. At first if I even brought up the subject of sex she would scold me and ask if that was all I wanted and if it was to just keep on moving because she was not that kind of girl. After we discussed my visiting she has sent me a few pictures of herself but nothing too revealing than an ass cheek. She has also started to give me details of how she will satisfy me sexually while I am there.
I am feeling confident that this girl is being honest with me but I have read this forum and it has caused me to think more about it.
I would appreciate any advice or thoughts on this subject.
ThanksIt does not add up, single mom with 2 kids not married, has computer and internet, lives with her mom where is her father, she has a history to get money like that and the 2 kids, if she was better off she would not be online looking for a man, you think if she was well off she would leave her family to live with you in another country. See if she has fb find out her friends contact them. I would do alot more digging around on this one. Remember it is a career for them, interview them.
I would get a few others you want to meet before you come here, when you do get here ask her for her passwords to DIA and email and YM.
Good luck
GoodEnough
07-02-11, 11:40
But Frenzy, we never know the whole truth here. All we ever get, at best, are partial truths and evasions. This is going to prove true no matter how many women he meets and no matter the circumstances under which he meets them. The fact is, nothing here ever "adds up" completely, or if it does, I've never seen those circumstances. Maybe she's getting money from other guys on line, or maybe her father died and was fairly well off and left some money, or maybe the father or fathers of the children send money. Who knows?
GE
FreebieFan
07-02-11, 11:45
It does not add up, single mom with 2 kids not married, has computer and internet, lives with her mom where is her father, she has a history to get money like that and the 2 kids, if she was better off she would not be online looking for a man, you think if she was well off she would leave her family to live with you in another country. See if she has fb find out her friends contact them. I would do alot more digging around on this one. Remember it is a career for them, interview them.
I would get a few others you want to meet before you come here, when you do get here ask her for her passwords to DIA and email and YM.
Good luckAdds up as quite normal Frenzy. Having a computer is very normal, look at prices of computers in Phils, especially second hand ones. Where is her father you ask. I reckon that at least 30% of Filipino families are separated, father either an OFW or living with another woman. All very normal. I agree that the poster should be very careful before comitting his all to anyone he doesn't really know (and you can really only know someone when you have spent time face to face with them, had fights and arguments, discussed money rationally ). Having a computer at home and no dad however is very normal.
Chocha Monger
07-02-11, 16:45
Hello, All,
This is my first post to this site. I am a senior member on USAG. I met a 36 why / o woman on DIA and we have been talking live with a webcam thanks to Yahoo for almost 3 months. I am now planning to take a trip and visit her in Cebu. We are both marriage minded. I have spoken with other girls from DIA and the all would like me to send them money. The 36 why / o has not asked me for anything and even when I have offered she has declined. I did send her a birthday card with a small amount of money in it but not becaused she asked. She has never been married but has 2 children and never married, lives with her mother. Unlike other girls I have spoken with she has a computer and the internet at her home and all the others go to an internet cafe, so I am assuming that her family may be better off than most but not having any experience in other parts of the world I am not sure. At first if I even brought up the subject of sex she would scold me and ask if that was all I wanted and if it was to just keep on moving because she was not that kind of girl. After we discussed my visiting she has sent me a few pictures of herself but nothing too revealing than an ass cheek. She has also started to give me details of how she will satisfy me sexually while I am there.
I am feeling confident that this girl is being honest with me but I have read this forum and it has caused me to think more about it.
I would appreciate any advice or thoughts on this subject.
ThanksDon't let the stirrings in your drawers become stirrings in your heart. Keep a tight hand on your wallet. This woman sounds like an expert angler. The really skilled ones have the patience to act conservative and the discipline to avoid asking for money or gifts. At 36 yrs of age she is an old hand at the game. She is playing for the jackpot, marriage, so she is experienced enough to hold out until she gets that visa and the license to fleece you. At the start she scolds you for wanting sex but now she dangles it like a carrot on a stick in front of a hungry donkey to entice you along on that trip. She is not that kind of girl but she has 2 kids and has never been married, something that would be considered scandalous in Philippine society. So, it's perfectly acceptable for the Filipino guys to fuck and flee but the foreigner has to marry and take ownership of the mess they left behind?
Why not have some fun and gain experience in the region before getting marriage minded? Do some research on Dragon Ladies, it might save you a lot of money and more than a little pain. Don't limit yourself to the foreigner hunters on the dating sites.
Hello, All,
This is my first post to this site. I am a senior member on USAG. I met a 36 why / o woman on DIA and we have been talking live with a webcam thanks to Yahoo for almost 3 months. I am now planning to take a trip and visit her in Cebu. We are both marriage minded. I have spoken with other girls from DIA and the all would like me to send them money. The 36 why / o has not asked me for anything and even when I have offered she has declined. I did send her a birthday card with a small amount of money in it but not becaused she asked. She has never been married but has 2 children and never married, lives with her mother. Unlike other girls I have spoken with she has a computer and the internet at her home and all the others go to an internet cafe, so I am assuming that her family may be better off than most but not having any experience in other parts of the world I am not sure. At first if I even brought up the subject of sex she would scold me and ask if that was all I wanted and if it was to just keep on moving because she was not that kind of girl. After we discussed my visiting she has sent me a few pictures of herself but nothing too revealing than an ass cheek. She has also started to give me details of how she will satisfy me sexually while I am there.
I am feeling confident that this girl is being honest with me but I have read this forum and it has caused me to think more about it.
I would appreciate any advice or thoughts on this subject.
ThanksAre you bored, lonely and desparate?
Think with your brain. There are plenty of girls in Phi without any kids baggage looking for serious relationships. Age difference if any does not matter to them.
Many women have computer at home nowadays or they can rent from their friends. One 18 year old girl I met had her own. It is possible a foreigner gave it to her in exchange for sex.
Before you get all gooey eyed with love, try to talk more girls, take trips to Phi and then decide with whom to settle down.
36 year old acting coy on sex-give me a break and two kids to boot.
All she wants is to angle you in for support for her and her kids. Your life will be miserable if you marry her.
Marconista
07-03-11, 01:16
@must be jelly.
CM and Sammon are both speaking my mind 100 per cent. I also think of this lady as an expert hustler.
You say you are both marriage minded, which causes another concern. Are you ready to quit your job and move to RP to find a new one?
As many others have aired earlier; Never take a pinay to your place, as this will cause you pain as soon as she has a permit to stay permanently and you father a child (basta, as they say).
Don't let the stirrings in your drawers become stirrings in your heart. Keep a tight hand on your wallet. This woman sounds like an expert angler. The really skilled ones have the patience to act conservative and the discipline to avoid asking for money or gifts. At 36 yrs of age she is an old hand at the game. She is playing for the jackpot, marriage, so she is experienced enough to hold out until she gets that visa and the license to fleece you. At the start she scolds you for wanting sex but now she dangles it like a carrot on a stick in front of a hungry donkey to entice you along on that trip. She is not that kind of girl but she has 2 kids and has never been married, something that would be considered scandalous in Philippine society. So, it's perfectly acceptable for the Filipino guys to fuck and flee but the foreigner has to marry and take ownership of the mess they left behind?
Why not have some fun and gain experience in the region before getting marriage minded? Do some research on Dragon Ladies, it might save you a lot of money and more than a little pain. Don't limit yourself to the foreigner hunters on the dating sites.
Must Be Jelly
07-05-11, 16:58
But Frenzy, we never know the whole truth here. All we ever get, at best, are partial truths and evasions. This is going to prove true no matter how many women he meets and no matter the circumstances under which he meets them. The fact is, nothing here ever "adds up" completely, or if it does, I've never seen those circumstances. Maybe she's getting money from other guys on line, or maybe her father died and was fairly well off and left some money, or maybe the father or fathers of the children send money. Who knows?
GEHi Guy's, Thanks for all the advice. I just want to clear a few things up.
1. I do intend to visit and meet her but not marry her. I plan on this being a vacation and plan to spend time with others while I am there.
2. Her father is dead according to her.
3. Her computer was given to her by an american BF.
4. I have no intention of moving to the Phils.
5. I have no doubt this woman has a past and I am keeping that in mind.
6. I have already told her that I will not spend all my time with her while on vacation.
7. I am not about to open my wallet for her and have told her that. I will however treat her the same as I would treat a woman in my home country while on a date which would include dinner, drinks and paying for any activities.
8. Yes, I am marriage minded but am taking my time.
No matter where a woman is from they never tell you everything and I would not tell them everything either, this is something I would expect to find anywhere in the world.
Thanks again everyone
Hi Guy's, Thanks for all the advice. I just want to clear a few things up.
1. I do intend to visit and meet her but not marry her. I plan on this being a vacation and plan to spend time with others while I am there.
2. Her father is dead according to her.
3. Her computer was given to her by an american BF.
4. I have no intention of moving to the Phils.
5. I have no doubt this woman has a past and I am keeping that in mind.
6. I have already told her that I will not spend all my time with her while on vacation.
7. I am not about to open my wallet for her and have told her that. I will however treat her the same as I would treat a woman in my home country while on a date which would include dinner, drinks and paying for any activities.
8. Yes, I am marriage minded but am taking my time.
No matter where a woman is from they never tell you everything and I would not tell them everything either, this is something I would expect to find anywhere in the world.
Thanks again everyoneOnce again it seems like no advice from people here have sunk in your brain.
1. First of all all why meet her and make your life complicated with her hard luck stories?
There is something called good sex hooks you up with the girl so that you go back for more.
My suggestion is just avoid her. Do not meet her and her family.
2. Her father being dead or ran away matter to you? It is one of the ways these girls trying to get sympathy and support from you.
Most often Phi guys make babies and run away marry another girl and make more babies.
3. It is always a foreign BF gives gifts in exchange for sex and companionship. It is very much possible this guy and many others are still in the picture.
And she continues to see one or many.
4. If you are really interested in finding a wife there are many to choose from. Not 36 year old with 2 kids.
You can meet some girl and take her to your country. There are many happy marriages.
5. This woman has past, present and no future. So she looking for somebody to make her future pleasant.
6. All women understand that you are not going to spend all your time with her.
You think they are so understanding. In reality she is showing you even after marriage she will not interfere in your activities.
After marriage the whole set will be different.
7. Tell me how you cannot open your wallet when she comes up with hard luck stories after sex?
8. It is good that you are marriage minded. But IMHO this is not the one.
Have you ever been to Phi? And see number of available women?
Member #4351
07-05-11, 18:12
Those of us who have been burned in the Philippines tend to be cynical and pessimistic. Maybe Must Be Jelly has found the perfect girl for him. Its not impossible and I don't think its fair to say that she is for sure a hard hearted scammer. Let him meet her and see how things go. He has been warned and doesn't appear to be an idiot.
MadisonGuy
07-05-11, 18:18
Those of us who have been burned in the Philippines tend to be cynical and pessimistic. Maybe Must Be Jelly has found the perfect girl for him. Its not impossible and I don't think its fair to say that she is for sure a hard hearted scammer. Let him meet her and see how things go. He has been warned and doesn't appear to be an idiot.I agree, plus people that were scammed chose to be, they obviously thought it was worth the money. Just do what makes you happy Jelly man!
Member #4351
07-05-11, 19:07
Well I've been scammed, and more than once I´m ashamed to say. I never chose to be, but I'm sometimes a gullible fool. Not for large amounts; last time was a few weeks ago when I sent for a ferry ticket for someone who then disappeared. Live and learn.
Must Be Jelly
07-05-11, 19:35
Once again it seems like no advice from people here have sunk in your brain.
1. First of all all why meet her and make your life complicated with her hard luck stories?
There is something called good sex hooks you up with the girl so that you go back for more.
My suggestion is just avoid her. Do not meet her and her family.
2. Her father being dead or ran away matter to you? It is one of the ways these girls trying to get sympathy and support from you.
Most often Phi guys make babies and run away marry another girl and make more babies.
3. It is always a foreign BF gives gifts in exchange for sex and companionship. It is very much possible this guy and many others are still in the picture.
And she continues to see one or many.
4. If you are really interested in finding a wife there are many to choose from. Not 36 year old with 2 kids.
You can meet some girl and take her to your country. There are many happy marriages.
5. This woman has past, present and no future. So she looking for somebody to make her future pleasant.
6. All women understand that you are not going to spend all your time with her.
You think they are so understanding. In reality she is showing you even after marriage she will not interfere in your activities.
After marriage the whole set will be different.
7. Tell me how you cannot open your wallet when she comes up with hard luck stories after sex?
8. It is good that you are marriage minded. But IMHO this is not the one.
Have you ever been to Phi? And see number of available women?Sammon,
I do appreciate your's and everyone elses advice and I resent your statment that this is not sinking into my brain. Are you here to help and to provide advice or is it just a mission to insult me? I have actually used most of this advice to formulate questions for her in determining whether or not she is playing. I may not have experience with Phils women but I do have many years of experience with women and they are all sisters in many ways. Apparently you did not clearly read my post where I stated that I had no plans of marriying her right away or at all. I plan on exploring all options. You make it sound like there is not one decent women in the Philippines. Again I thank you for all your advice and I will be sure to move ahead with extreme caution.
Being several thousand miles away will make it very easy for me to say no to giving her money. I may be new to this site and Phils women but it does not mean I am new to the game.
Well I've been scammed, and more than once I´m ashamed to say. I never chose to be, but I'm sometimes a gullible fool. Not for large amounts; last time was a few weeks ago when I sent for a ferry ticket for someone who then disappeared. Live and learn.I have been scammed into sending money for Bus ticket also. But it is like you say live and learn. I have sent money in larger amounts for air-ticket etc but they have showed up.
So it is hard to say who is a scammer and who is not.
Only reason I gave this guy strong advice is he is thinking of getting serious with this lady and marrying her just on the basis of chatting online.
Besides he has asked for advice in this forum. So take it with a grain of salt and decide your own fate.
If he gets into her pants with a few dollars expense so be it.
Member #4491
07-06-11, 02:16
On the topic of scams, I must say that it is more of a lottery in my opinion. I sent 1000 PHP yesterday (via staff in Phil to avoid the ridiculous "transfer fees") to a girl that I have seen and fucked before. She is not 100% reliable, but I figured I will take my chances. If she does not turn up when I come to punani heaven, I see this as just some more money spent on nothing substantial (beer falls in this category as well). Compared to what I blow on other things I can not see why I need to loose sleep on investing 1000 PHP in this little bunny. She is dirt poor.
Most time I find that I win in the send_money_lottery. Even if we are careful and select whom we sponsor, we will have a few losses, but it goes with mongering IMHO.
It is all a big equation where the quality of life in for example my country, is intricately related to all the countries that we but f*cked for a century or two, in order to build our wealth. For me it is more relevant to not buy small unnecessary plastic gizmos produced in environmental aggressive countries and shipped all over the world, than to relocate a fraction of our wealth by making a small bet on if a girl will show up to bang me or not.
Must Be Jelly, if she is special you must of course meet her. How can you back out at this stage? Like not reading the last chapter of a great book. We all need a mission and she is maybe yours, for a years or ten. All men reason (or reasoned) like you do at times. We get more or less consumed by a womans "problems" and try to solve at least parts of them, while still not paying to high of a price financially / emotionally / practically. Doesn't this engagements in life's practical matters give a feeling of having some sort of meaning on this little round piece of dust in the great black void? The cynic calls this engagement pathetic, and has most often been there playing this couples game in the past (over doing this is perhaps part of his path to cynicism). The romantic calls this inviting the potential passion of commitment into our brief existence. You simply can't deny it, we are born as social creatures and we feel pretty good when we can do something together with, or for, a person you consider YOUR loved one. We love to help someone we care for and men have a genetic disposition towards being "a provider". In a sense it is often this "YOUR" that is the key question, since we all tend to get terribly, or at least partly, upset if we do find out that we did give a sh*t and she was in fact not ONLY yours. This of course boils down to the genetically programmed fear of wasting your hard earned resources, on someone else's DNA. Even if we on a rational level know that it does not mean a rats ass who gave her this lap top, most men carry a primal fear that someone else will have his penis in her vagina and impregnate her, and then using the looser's hard earned bucks to pay for this bastard child.
Must Be Jelly, not sure if you visited the Philippines, but as many pointed out she is considered old by anyone who knows the availability in the Philippines. I know one guy who was planning his trip to Pi for months, and he resorted to a woman that was more or less the only one he got contact with. He made this selection not based on the woman being special, but rather on the woman being passed due date for many men, hence available and there for him when he needed to build up some tension and excitement over his upcoming trip. Needless to say, the woman was disappointed since there was a disproportion between her expectations and what he delivered in terms of attention once he was surrounded by teens throwing damp knickers in his face.
One last thing in this little essay (sorry). I wrote it before and feel the urge to repeat it: men need to start to stand up for their nature. If a woman forbids you from talking about sex, she is in fact forbidding you to be who you are born to be. You are, and should never pretend to be, a woman. We need to inform women at every possible chance we get that thinking of sex, talking about sex and even dreaming about sex IS what how we where created. We did not choose this more than we choose to feel hunger or have a heart beat. If a woman complains about her ex bf fucking other women (she is in fact trying to define some game rules for you) , we must not try to falsely impress her, but rather be honest and state that you can understand him because he is a man and men are born with this restless desire. Scold him for bringing shame onto her, but express sympathy for him as a man with the fundamental need to spread his royal seed. It is a womans duty to invite her friends to keep him accommodated. If she fails to please him, he will loose self control and stick his shaft in other females. Isn't life simple sometimes? .
All the best from Barba with to much time on his hands at the moment.
FreebieFan
07-06-11, 02:54
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I would suggest to any one dating a woman from to phils to do it with a bit of caution and to set your goals on educated, working women. One of the best careers for a filipina, specificly an educated filipina is a call center job. I have met several filipinas and most of the very attractive ones are under educated and not working and like beautiful women from any country they want to be taking care of. For that matter even the least attractive ones want support. You can find a working woman (non prostitute) in her 30's who will make a great companion and really want a good guy like many of you here. If you choose to date an extremely poor filipina you will pay for her, her family, her children, her food and possibly her phil bf. What does a westernized man have in common with a dirt poor extremely under educated filipina? Nice, sweet, sexy or not pre requisites for marriage or a real relationship. Now the women I described 30ish WORKING and educated is not the majority they are indeed the minority but their there and they would love to have a good westernized man. They may not be as sexy or skinny but their great companions. Considered yourselves the Hot Blond. Hot blondes don't marry for looks and in many cases love either but they marry for security. So find a woman that can benefit you, nurses in the phils are a great choice specially if you live in the states where nurses are in high demand.
One last thing in this little essay (sorry). I wrote it before and feel the urge to repeat it: men need to start to stand up for their nature. If a woman forbids you from talking about sex, she is in fact forbidding you to be who you are born to be. You are, and should never pretend to be, a woman. We need to inform women at every possible chance we get that thinking of sex, talking about sex and even dreaming about sex IS what how we where created. We did not choose this more than we choose to feel hunger or have a heart beat. If a woman complains about her ex bf fucking other women (she is in fact trying to define some game rules for you) , we must not try to falsely impress her, but rather be honest and state that you can understand him because he is a man and men are born with this restless desire. Scold him for bringing shame onto her, but express sympathy for him as a man with the fundamental need to spread his royal seed. It is a womans duty to invite her friends to keep him accommodated. If she fails to please him, he will loose self control and stick his shaft in other females. Isn't life simple sometimes? .
All the best from Barba with to much time on his hands at the moment.Yes I tell the girls all men are pussy hunters and if they ever find one who denies it they have a liar, all the monogamous men got hooked up at 14 and married by 21 IMHO. Most guys need to realize lies make you life unhappy, if you tell a girl upfront you never will just sex 1 girl and she will sex you what more do you need from her. Most girls I talk about this worry that guys have feeling for the girls we sex, that we think like them, I tell them not we are simple we only understand objects, we do not have the same feelings as them. When was the last time you saw a man cry because the girl he was having sex with went and had sex with another man, he either wants to hurt some one or like me goes bring me another girl.
PI look at objects the same way what is yours is mine, hence the guys will share their girls for cash. But they still get jealous if you flaunt it in their face.
FreebieFan
07-07-11, 06:44
. Now the women I described 30ish WORKING and educated is not the majority they are indeed the minority but their there and they would love to have a good westernized man. They may not be as sexy or skinny but their great companions. Considered yourselves the Hot Blond. Hot blondes don't marry for looks and in many cases love either but they marry for security. So find a woman that can benefit you, nurses in the phils are a great choice specially if you live in the states where nurses are in high demand.Continuing in my newly non argumentative role (LOL) , theres a curious phenomenon in China whereby hot girls date ugly, and often shorter guys. You see this and then you think, what gives?
The reality, from a Chinese girls thought perspective is that if she dates a hot guy, and marries him hes still goning to be hot and will still be tempted. If however she is hot and dates a plain guy, and marries him, he will not want to look elsewhere as hes always going to be pinching himself as to how he got his " hottie".
Soapy Smith
07-07-11, 14:48
Now the women I described 30ish WORKING and educated is not the majority they are indeed the minority but their there and they would love to have a good westernized man. They may not be as sexy or skinny but their great companions. Considered yourselves the Hot Blond. Hot blondes don't marry for looks and in many cases love either but they marry for security.
If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life.
Never make a pretty woman your wife.
So from my personal point of view.
Get an ugly girl to marry you.
{Refrain}
A pretty woman makes her husband look small.
And very often causes his downfall.
As soon as he marries her, then she starts.
Doing' the things that will break his heart.
But if you make an ugly woman your wife.
You'll be happy for the rest of your life.
An ugly woman cooks your meals on time.
An she'll always give you peace of mind.
{Refrain}
Don't let your friends say you have no taste.
Go ahead and marry anyway.
Though her face is ugly and her eyes don't match.
Take it from me, she's a better catch.
Lyrics and music by Jimmy Soul from several decades ago
If you want to be happy for the rest of your life.
Never make a pretty woman your wife.
So from my personal point of view.
Get an ugly girl to marry you.
< SNIP I have been quoting this philosophy on numerous occasions Skip, and it's a very catchy ditty too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NF5XU-k2Vk
Misfit Boy
07-07-11, 16:49
I would suggest to any one dating a woman from to phils to do it with a bit of caution and to set your goals on educated, working women. One of the best careers for a filipina, specificly an educated filipina is a call center job. I have met several filipinas and most of the very attractive ones are under educated and not working and like beautiful women from any country they want to be taking care of. For that matter even the least attractive ones want support. You can find a working woman (non prostitute) in her 30's who will make a great companion and really want a good guy like many of you here. If you choose to date an extremely poor filipina you will pay for her, her family, her children, her food and possibly her phil bf. What does a westernized man have in common with a dirt poor extremely under educated filipina? Nice, sweet, sexy or not pre requisites for marriage or a real relationship. Now the women I described 30ish WORKING and educated is not the majority they are indeed the minority but their there and they would love to have a good westernized man. They may not be as sexy or skinny but their great companions. Considered yourselves the Hot Blond. Hot blondes don't marry for looks and in many cases love either but they marry for security. So find a woman that can benefit you, nurses in the phils are a great choice specially if you live in the states where nurses are in high demand.I agree. This is my experience.
I just came from Manila for a few days of R and R. After going through the usual bar scene (Burgos, Mabini.) , I tried hanging out in Cafe's and "normal" bars. Got tired of dealing with pimps and girls who were just wasting my time and money. I met this 30ish educated woman in one of the coffee shops and we just started with a casual conversation. She knows how to speak English, was very well conversed and I found it quite amusing to meet a Filipina who was, for all intents and purposes, an "equal." Ok, she wasn't sexy, a bit on the chubby side. Not the looker I was used to dealing with and paying for. But, she was great in the sack. What an experience. Tight pussy. And all she wanted was to have fun. No talk of money or the usual taxi fare after. No sick family member or bus tickets that need to be bought. No mamasan. She had her own car and own place. After we met once, I got her number and met up a few times more before I left. Just casual sex for free with no complications (although she did have rules like rubbers, no pictures.). It was a new experience for me. First time for me to meet a local who just wanted fun and not a foreigner to milk money from. I might want to look for more girls like her when I go back there.
Anyone else with the same experience?
By the way, the she gave me her number just in case I wanted to meet up again when I go back there. If anyone is interested, just send me a message. Might want to try her out.
Soapy Smith
07-07-11, 21:01
By the way, the she gave me her number just in case I wanted to meet up again when I go back there. If anyone is interested, just send me a message. Might want to try her out.Is there a chance she would not be pleased about your sharing her contact information with the suggestion she is sexually available for other foreign men? Give yourself credit: maybe she agreed to sex with you because she was specifically attracted to you.
I agree. This is my experience.
I just came from Manila for a few days of R and R. After going through the usual bar scene (Burgos, Mabini.) , I tried hanging out in Cafe's and "normal" bars. Got tired of dealing with pimps and girls who were just wasting my time and money. I met this 30ish educated woman in one of the coffee shops and we just started with a casual conversation. She knows how to speak English, was very well conversed and I found it quite amusing to meet a Filipina who was, for all intents and purposes, an "equal." Ok, she wasn't sexy, a bit on the chubby side. Not the looker I was used to dealing with and paying for. But, she was great in the sack. What an experience. Tight pussy. And all she wanted was to have fun. No talk of money or the usual taxi fare after. No sick family member or bus tickets that need to be bought. No mamasan. She had her own car and own place. After we met once, I got her number and met up a few times more before I left. Just casual sex for free with no complications (although she did have rules like rubbers, no pictures.). It was a new experience for me. First time for me to meet a local who just wanted fun and not a foreigner to milk money from. I might want to look for more girls like her when I go back there.
Anyone else with the same experience?
By the way, the she gave me her number just in case I wanted to meet up again when I go back there. If anyone is interested, just send me a message. Might want to try her out.Have we lowered ourselves to such a stage that we will bed any willing woman without regard to age, looks, sexy body etc?
The pupose of travelling half way around the world is to have sex with young, nubile women with or without paying money. If I am not picky I can get women here.
The charm of women from Philippines, Thai and China are we get young pretty girls to have girlfriendly sex and companionship irrespective of our age. It will be extremely hard to get that in.
Our own countries.
Have we lowered ourselves to such a stage that we will bed any willing woman without regard to age, looks, sexy body etc?
The pupose of travelling half way around the world is to have sex with young, nubile women with or without paying money. If I am not picky I can get women here.That's just you Sammon (and this is not a flame or a criticism).
Not all of us want what you want or have the same purpose in life as you do.
I prefer older women (at least 26 anyway). There are no rules.
Soapy Smith
07-08-11, 04:14
I prefer older women (at least 26 anyway). There are no rules.I second that. I've been with numerous nubile young Filipinas and after a while found that many of them were either anatomically too tight or incapable of fully relaxing their vulvas during sex. I concluded, perhaps incorrectly, that Filipinas are, like their male counterparts, endowed with relatively smaller equipment than Western women. I developed a habit of asking them if they'd had children, and, if yes, whether they were vaginally delivered or c-section. I eventually decided that those who had delivered vaginally were, at least where my comfort and pleasure were concerned, either a better fit or perhaps merely more capable of relaxing and enjoying the moment. I gladly put up with a few stretch marks in exchange for a comfortable fit. So my tastes developed around a set of comfort and pleasure issues that might be quite different than anybody else's. I'm now in a relationship with a petite, attractive 33 year old Pinay with three children. The fit is perfect for me, and I'm pretty sure she agrees. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and often there is no accounting for taste.
WestCoast1
07-08-11, 05:30
That's just you Sammon (and this is not a flame or a criticism).
Not all of us want what you want or have the same purpose in life as you do.
I prefer older women (at least 26 anyway). There are no rules.Last year I was lucky enough to meet a gal in Manila, mid-30's (previously posted as the energizer bunny) , who sweetly has been providing not only herself, but on a nightly basis when I'm there she brings different ladies for me to share. Other than paying their taxi fare and buying them breakfast, she refuses money. Dream come true. The real dream come true part is that I discovered only thru her wide, wide variety of female contacts, that I prefer quite a dichotomy of ladies. One night she brought over a thin, attractive woman who was older than I am (I asked for older). What a wonderful choice the lady was. She spoke no english, but after some shyness in bed she warmed up to the tiger level. The next night my gal brought over a sub-20 girl. I enjoyed both experiences, and the lady has already lined up a similar experience for my upcoming trip (she's bringing a similar older and younger at the same time).
I try and stretch myself a bit at times. Big boobs only tonight. Flat as a pancake another night. And so on.
Misfit Boy
07-08-11, 10:36
Is there a chance she would not be pleased about your sharing her contact information with the suggestion she is sexually available for other foreign men? Give yourself credit: maybe she agreed to sex with you because she was specifically attracted to you.I asked her about it. She says she doesn't mind giving her number. Says she just doesn't want anyone from her "real life" knowing about it. The way I see it, she's liberal about sex which is not the norm in her circle of friends. She's a professional (work-wise) , works in an office, and just like to enjoy her sexuality. Just looking for "friends with benefits", as she put it, and nothing serious. Just wants to have fun without any strings attached which is why she prefers foreigners. Filipino men don't quite take to the idea. I told her she sounded like a man and she just laughed at me.
Though Sammon might think we're lowering our standards or something like that, I disagree. She may not be a nubile. 20 year old, but I had fun. I think that's what counts. She hasn't had a baby yet which is why the pussy's a little tight but, after a while, it gets to a comfortable level. Oh, and she gives a mean BJ. What I liked about it is that it was fun for her too and not work. We were in no hurry, no deals had to be made. And after a passionate night, we can just walk away, no strings attached, albeit with an option for future trists. That is a good deal for me.
To each his own. Whatever makes us happy. This experience was new for me so I thought I'd share it.
Contrary to many of the posts here and elsewhere, there are many, many single, well educated, available women in the Phils.
The issue is, how do we get to meet them.
I have worked with a number of them and I have employed a number of them. Bachelor degrees, masters, a couple of PhD's. Well educated, well spoken. Some were most interested in taking things to a more intimate level, but I believe in the adage that one should never shit in one's own nest. Don't fool around in the workplace.
I have also met, and bedded, a number of similar women who I met through Cherry Blossoms.
They are there, if you want them. But it is harder than just pulling a wg from a bar.
MB, I can not message you for her phone number as you are not a paid member. You can email me at [Email address deleted by Admin]
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Have we lowered ourselves to such a stage that we will bed any willing woman without regard to age, looks, sexy body etc?
The pupose of travelling half way around the world is to have sex with young, nubile women with or without paying money. If I am not picky I can get women here.
The charm of women from Philippines, Thai and China are we get young pretty girls to have girlfriendly sex and companionship irrespective of our age. It will be extremely hard to get that in.
Our own countries.Certainly not. But I was responding to a guy that was possibly pursuing a serious relationship not just sex. On a personal note I don't buy sex in the phils. I'm not judging and am completely in support of any one that pursues this harmless vice. But I find sex to be much more enjoyable with a non pro that I have developed some type of rapport with. As far as attractiveness is concerned their are plenty of attractive 30ish filipinas that you can enjoy both sexually and intellectually and for that matter a few younger ones as well. And I agree with the reason you and many others travel to parts of asia and thats for cheap sex with good looking women. And I travel for that but more importantly for the experience, now I'm not as mature as many of the mongers here, I'm 32 years old and still enjoy the dating scene in the states. Yet, with that said there are plenty of 60 and up mongers that use this strategy (as matter of fact I learned it from one) and find it rewarding.
. their are plenty of attractive 30ish filipinas that you can enjoy both sexually and intellectually and for that matter a few younger ones as well. And . there are plenty of 60 and up mongers that use this strategy (as matter of fact I learned it from one) and find it rewarding.I think you have touched on an interesting subject Jbiz (despite the lack of life here for the past month). There are a lot of women in the Philippines who are comfortable being wih an older man in the short or even long term, including some well educated career women. However the laws against foreign introductions for marriage as well as the articles online from Filipinas who hate the fact that young women are marrying older foreign men, tell me a lot of others think differently. So my question is how regional is the belief that 'age is just a number'?
I would assume that economic pressures is one reason women become less concerned over age, but I have had plenty of contact with women who were financially quite secure who strongly preferred an older foreign guy. My sense is that most of these women are from more rural and poor backgrounds so that even though they are enjoying a decent careers their values emphasized stability and income in a husband with little concern for youth and appearance. Of course others had just been burned one too many times by a good looking young Filipino guys infidelity and instaility.
So are there regions where the 'hunting' would be better than others for a young well educated woman or promising college student? Is Luzon less traditional in this sense than Mindanao? How is Cebu vs Palawan or Samar?
Great song, Red! I have given this idea, this quest, for beauty a lot of thought in my 55 years. While the less attractive women do try harder, generally, and may be better wives, I don"t think I could marry anything less than an 8 (unless her boobs were huge) because it is already quite a challenge for me to remain faithful! The thing that the young beauties don't realize when they are young is that the beauty always fades to a greater or lesser extent. Just look at their moms! So, for me, I think I will wait until I'm 60ish to seriously settle down with a 20 something, maybe early 30s. When a woman is in her 40s it's all downhill. Eventually they all turn into menopausal psychotics in the late 40s and 50s but by that time I'll be pushing 80 if I'm lucky. Geez I hope I'm that lucky. I want to go to heaven just after my last climax with my beautiful sexy wife. Happy horndogging, my friends! Stay thirsty!
I have been quoting this philosophy on numerous occasions Skip, and it's a very catchy ditty too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NF5XU-k2Vk
This reminds me of my last visit to the Philippines.
http://youtu.be/3WPZzt7BN5I
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For some reason I think you will go to haven after a climax with your 20 something the cup mistress rather then your 30ish plus wife. Enjoy life to the fullest as they say at the ABC You only leave once.
Great song, Red! I have given this idea, this quest, for beauty a lot of thought in my 55 years. While the less attractive women do try harder, generally, and may be better wives, I don"t think I could marry anything less than an 8 (unless her boobs were huge) because it is already quite a challenge for me to remain faithful! The thing that the young beauties don't realize when they are young is that the beauty always fades to a greater or lesser extent. Just look at their moms! So, for me, I think I will wait until I'm 60ish to seriously settle down with a 20 something, maybe early 30s. When a woman is in her 40s it's all downhill. Eventually they all turn into menopausal psychotics in the late 40s and 50s but by that time I'll be pushing 80 if I'm lucky. Geez I hope I'm that lucky. I want to go to heaven just after my last climax with my beautiful sexy wife. Happy horndogging, my friends! Stay thirsty!
Chocha Monger
08-14-11, 14:04
I think you have touched on an interesting subject Jbiz (despite the lack of life here for the past month). There are a lot of women in the Philippines who are comfortable being wih an older man in the short or even long term, including some well educated career women. However the laws against foreign introductions for marriage as well as the articles online from Filipinas who hate the fact that young women are marrying older foreign men, tell me a lot of others think differently. So my question is how regional is the belief that 'age is just a number'?
I would assume that economic pressures is one reason women become less concerned over age, but I have had plenty of contact with women who were financially quite secure who strongly preferred an older foreign guy. My sense is that most of these women are from more rural and poor backgrounds so that even though they are enjoying a decent careers their values emphasized stability and income in a husband with little concern for youth and appearance. Of course others had just been burned one too many times by a good looking young Filipino guys infidelity and instaility.
So are there regions where the 'hunting' would be better than others for a young well educated woman or promising college student? Is Luzon less traditional in this sense than Mindanao? How is Cebu vs Palawan or Samar?Filipinas of any age in any location would be happy to take your money. There is no regional preference for old guys. Some girls just find that old foreign guys suit their particular agenda. It doesn't matter if she is from Luzon or one of the other islands. Don't buy into the stories about being burnt one too many time by young Filipinos. The girls will be happy to be with you for the economic benefits but they will still have sex with their local boyfriends on the side. Just be happy with the sex that you would otherwise not be able to get at home. Do not expect a true love Beauty and The Beast story to become reality.
Filipinas of any age in any location would be happy to take your money. There is no regional preference for old guys. Some girls just find that old foreign guys suit their particular agenda. It doesn't matter if she is from Luzon or one of the other islands. Don't buy into the stories about being burnt one too many time by young Filipinos. The girls will be happy to be with you for the economic benefits but they will still have sex with their local boyfriends on the side. Just be happy with the sex that you would otherwise not be able to get at home. Do not expect a true love Beauty and The Beast story to become reality.I appreciate your insights CM, but I have seen a few too many May-December couples to dismiss the idea of a genuine relationship of that sort out of hand.
I visited a chat mate in Cebu, and the clever girl booked me in an Inn where the owner had lost her husband the year before. They had been 27 an 54 when they met. She still had a tendency to talk about him in the evening and when it started it invariably led to tears. I also had a friend whose father was 23 years older than his mom, which from my child's eye view seemed pretty stable, and knew a ER nurse whose husband was in his mid-50s on her 30ith birthday and they who seemed exceptionally happy with their marriage, among others.
I'm not holding my breath on a 19 year old Miss Davao and will avoid those who are financially squeezed. I know the odds are against me, that's why I asked this somewhat lame sounding question- it's all about market segmentation and targeting! LOL
Chocha Monger
08-15-11, 22:13
I appreciate your insights CM, but I have seen a few too many May-December couples to dismiss the idea of a genuine relationship of that sort out of hand.
I visited a chat mate in Cebu, and the clever girl booked me in an Inn where the owner had lost her husband the year before. They had been 27 an 54 when they met. She still had a tendency to talk about him in the evening and when it started it invariably led to tears. I also had a friend whose father was 23 years older than his mom, which from my child's eye view seemed pretty stable, and knew a ER nurse whose husband was in his mid-50s on her 30ith birthday and they who seemed exceptionally happy with their marriage, among others.
I'm not holding my breath on a 19 year old Miss Davao and will avoid those who are financially squeezed. I know the odds are against me, that's why I asked this somewhat lame sounding question- it's all about market segmentation and targeting! LOLSojourner,
Keep in mind that your penis can convince you that anything is possible if it wants it badly enough. As for those relationships you saw, well no one ever really knows for sure if a relationship is happy or not looking in from the outside.
GoodEnough
08-16-11, 13:30
As is the case with generalizations, the disparagement of May-December relationships is sometimes warranted, but often not. I'm in the 8th year of such a relationship and so far, it's proved to be the best I've ever had. I have several friends in similar situations though I've also known several cases in which the relationship didn't work out well. What's critical to making it work-at least from the male perspective-is to take your time and not to make any decisions until the initial knife-edge of passion has dulled somewhat, thus assuring that you're using at least part of your larger brain. Then too, time allows for a more accurate assessment of a woman's character, and I imagine allows the woman a more valid assessment of the character of her prospective partner. It takes weeks, and often months to arrive at a decision that neither party will regret. Unfortunately, many of the decisions that I see being made are hasty, and reached at the height of passion, which probably doesn't bode well for the longer term outloook. The fact is however, that not all Filipinas are scam artists and some have a laudable strength of character.
GE
FreebieFan
08-17-11, 02:01
As is the case with generalizations, the disparagement of May-December relationships is sometimes warranted, but often not. .
GEOff topic but still a valid question. Never heard the term "May-December relationship". Am assuming its a term for a realtionship that starts hot and doesn't last?
FreebieFan
08-18-11, 02:20
A May-December relationship is a relationship with a huge age disparity. Brush up. Google is your friend.In which case maybe we should ask google to upload all the sex scene details and we would never need ISG. LOL
I have been going thru some of my old Cherry blossom contacts from five or six years ago. I load their mail into FB just to see what comes up. Sometimes nothing, sometime chubby ladies with children and husbands appear. One came up with a gal in a bikini and it looked great. I had to "friend" her to get to the rest of the pictures.
This is what I learned. She is married in Hawaii. She still looks damn good in a bikini.
She had about 500 pictures, mostly of her alone. There were beaches and nice restaurants. Her driving a car. Her "photographer" was obviously treating her well.
There were some older pictures of her and her friends in the Philippines.
There were several pictures of her new house in the Philippines, which she will renovate.
There were 12 photos of her shoes.
There were 24 pictures of her bags.
There was one picture of her with a grey-haired, but fit, gentleman in the background. She identified him as her hubby, but didn't bother to include a name.
It struck me as sad. Very sad. X
Soapy Smith
08-19-11, 03:46
I have been going thru some of my old Cherry blossom contacts from five or six years ago. I load their mail into FB just to see what comes up. Sometimes nothing, sometime chubby ladies with children and husbands appear. One came up with a gal in a bikini and it looked great. I had to "friend" her to get to the rest of the pictures.
This is what I learned. She is married in Hawaii. She still looks damn good in a bikini.
She had about 500 pictures, mostly of her alone. There were beaches and nice restaurants. Her driving a car. Her "photographer" was obviously treating her well.
There were some older pictures of her and her friends in the Philippines.
There were several pictures of her new house in the Philippines, which she will renovate.
There were 12 photos of her shoes.
There were 24 pictures of her bags.
There was one picture of her with a grey-haired, but fit, gentleman in the background. She identified him as her hubby, but didn't bother to include a name.
It struck me as sad. Very sad. XMy God, I think you've found some 20-year old materials from Ferdinand and Imelda.
Chocha Monger
08-19-11, 05:39
I have been going thru some of my old Cherry blossom contacts from five or six years ago. I load their mail into FB just to see what comes up. Sometimes nothing, sometime chubby ladies with children and husbands appear. One came up with a gal in a bikini and it looked great. I had to "friend" her to get to the rest of the pictures.
This is what I learned. She is married in Hawaii. She still looks damn good in a bikini.
She had about 500 pictures, mostly of her alone. There were beaches and nice restaurants. Her driving a car. Her "photographer" was obviously treating her well.
There were some older pictures of her and her friends in the Philippines.
There were several pictures of her new house in the Philippines, which she will renovate.
There were 12 photos of her shoes.
There were 24 pictures of her bags.
There was one picture of her with a grey-haired, but fit, gentleman in the background. She identified him as her hubby, but didn't bother to include a name.
It struck me as sad. Very sad. XImagine when the girls look at a monger's FB and see that he is older, balder and fatter but still trying to sex 18 yr old girls.
GregLondon
08-20-11, 11:15
I appreciate your insights CM, but I have seen a few too many May-December couples to dismiss the idea of a genuine relationship of that sort out of hand.
I visited a chat mate in Cebu, and the clever girl booked me in an Inn where the owner had lost her husband the year before. They had been 27 an 54 when they met. She still had a tendency to talk about him in the evening and when it started it invariably led to tears. I also had a friend whose father was 23 years older than his mom, which from my child's eye view seemed pretty stable, and knew a ER nurse whose husband was in his mid-50s on her 30ith birthday and they who seemed exceptionally happy with their marriage, among others.
I'm not holding my breath on a 19 year old Miss Davao and will avoid those who are financially squeezed. I know the odds are against me, that's why I asked this somewhat lame sounding question- it's all about market segmentation and targeting! LOLIt's a perfectly reasonable question, and to date the responses have not been completely helpful. As GE and others have said a successful big age gap relationship is possible, though there are plenty of pitfalls for the unwary. The first thing that one has to recognise is that when Filipinas say that "age is just a number", they don't mean that they find young guys and old guys equally attractive, they mean their position in life and social / economic prospects is such that they are willing to trade their youth and good looks for financial security for themselves and often their wider family. The willingness to do this obviously depends on what other alternatives are available.
One word of caution. Philippines along with the rest of Asia is changing very fast. You will hear some guys here saying "I married a 21 year old Pinay 10 years ago or 20 years ago" and it all worked out fine etc. But alot has happened in the last 10-20 years. Back then there were no web cam girls, no call centres, no planes loaded with Koreans, few girls had a mobile phone, almost none had a laptop, the dating sites were either not around or much more primative and fewer western guys came to the Phils. In short hot 21 year old Pinays now have many more options than their elder sisters or mothers 10 or 20 years ago.
That said because of Philippines relatively disaserous economic mismanagement and the policies of the Catholic church, Phils is perhaps the best place in the world to find a good May-December relationship, so if the alternative is a November-December relationship back home, maybe it's worth a shot.
Obviously you can potentially stumble accross the right girl anywhere but if you wish to improve your odds personally I would be cautious about low population areas which attract lots of relatively young foreign tourists (such as Palawan, Camiguin, Siargao etc). I would also be cautious about girls who have grown up in the big cities as these tend to be either from relatively wealthy families or from slum areas, neither of which is a good option as the former may not want you and the latter may be best avoided. I'm not sure I would want to focuss on very remote places either. These may not be secure (some towns in Mindanao) or have poor medical facilities and because everyone knows everyone else and people tend to be rather conservative it may be difficult to play the field until you discover the right one.
Personally in your shoes I would base myself in a regional centre (or possibly the outskirts thereof) and target girls moving there from more provincial places or currently living a few hours away. If a girl is from say Leyte and has come to Cebu to study or geta job, she is likely to be living in some crappy boarding house struggling to pay the electricity bills and rent. As she is out of sight of neighbours and parents she has much more scope to be or become open minded it is probably therefore possible to date a number of such girls until you find the right one.
I think GE makes a very sensible point in waiting to see if you are still compatible with the girl and you are convinced she has a good character after the initial passionate ardour has disappaited somewhat. This would suggest somewhere like Cebu or CDO or Davao as possible places to base yourself.
On the other hand you may find the quality of living more important. Many older guys retire to Dumaguete which has some very pleasant places to stay. The problem here is that it's not a great place for huntig for a girl as the ratio of foreign guys / attractive local girls is about the worst in the country. (Forget about picking up girls from the local Sulliman University. It's for rich kids and those girls are not going to want to hook up with an old retiree). Palawan is also a nice place to live if you like a more relaxed and nature focused lifestyle. It might be a good place for a May- September relationship, not sure about May-December though.
Anyhow that's my pennyworth.
GoodEnough
08-20-11, 12:00
I agree with Greg London's suggestion of finding a decent-size municipal hub such as Cebu, Davao or CDO and using it as the focal point of a search. I don't know Cebu very well, but I do know CDO and Davao, which share the common characteristic of being home to approachable women. All it takes is dressing decently, a bit of game and showing some common courtesy to the ladies, and I think most men-even old guys like me-will find that they're at least willing to talk with you. These cities, and perhaps others, also have reasonably large expat communities, thus providing the opportunities to meet other guys who have established solid relationships and whose asawas, girlfriends, or partners may be willing to introduce the newcomer to some of their friends who are "looking." I have lost count of the number of my lady's friends who have asked her to introduce them to "nice" foreign men. (I should add the the two or so times we've acceded to these requests the results have not been good.)
At the risk of sounding somewhat repetitive, I again encourage those of you looking for such relationships to be patient, to take it slowly and to let things develop. Don't rush the first sexual encounter (there are plenty of bar girls available to take the edge off) , and take time to get to know the woman or women with whom you think there's the possibility of establishing a relationship. Since time and patience are essential prerequisites, this approach doesn't favor the guys who come here on two week holidays.
GE
Chocha Monger
08-21-11, 03:39
We know that virginity is the only thing of value some Filipinas possess and without it their chances of marrying a local guy is almost non-existent. So, has anyone ever banged a virgin and then had her cherry repaired? I see this service advertised in Manila and I wonder if anyone took advantage of it to help some innocent young thing they seduced but wanted to save from becoming a pariah.
We know that virginity is the only thing of value some Filipinas possess and without it their chances of marrying a local guy is almost non-existent. So, has anyone ever banged a virgin and then had her cherry repaired? I see this service advertised in Manila and I wonder if anyone took advantage of it to help some innocent young thing they seduced but wanted to save from becoming a pariah.Not really true. I know of many " virgins " and others in AC got married to phillipino guys after they sold it to highest bidder. They would come to AC and work there for a couple of years and go back to their provinces and marry. Some got married to Manila guys.
It is not known if the guy knew what she was doing before. Like anywhere else young people meet and have sex and then change their mind and separate. I do not know of the girls who come from financially upper echelons.
Nowadays saving herself for marriage does happen only in very few countries like Mideast and India. Even in the provinces according to my friends you get a wink and smile if you ask whether the girl is a virgin in Phi.
Phi is a quite open society now with all girls having the freedom to date, go with anybody they want. Maybe the family will be little leery of western guys but it is not an issue.
Ofcourse all girls have a special liking to that first person to enter her.
Chocha Monger
08-22-11, 04:00
Not really true. I know of many " virgins " and others in AC got married to phillipino guys after they sold it to highest bidder. They would come to AC and work there for a couple of years and go back to their provinces and marry. Some got married to Manila guys.
It is not known if the guy knew what she was doing before. Like anywhere else young people meet and have sex and then change their mind and separate. I do not know of the girls who come from financially upper echelons.
Nowadays saving herself for marriage does happen only in very few countries like Mideast and India. Even in the provinces according to my friends you get a wink and smile if you ask whether the girl is a virgin in Phi.
Phi is a quite open society now with all girls having the freedom to date, go with anybody they want. Maybe the family will be little leery of western guys but it is not an issue.
Ofcourse all girls have a special liking to that first person to enter her.Only poor pinoys will accept anything less than a fresh hole for marriage in the Catholic Church. The "virgins" in the bars are selling their strawberries to foreigners not their cherries. They've already been poked by a native. It might even be the same poor native who convinced her to work in the bar and put her pussy on sale in order to buy him the things he needs and wants in life. Things like shabu, Red Horse, Tanduay, cigarettes or even a scooter. No pinoy with a pot to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in and a fairly good family name would knowingly marry a bar girl. It would be the biggest scandal in the barangay.
Screaming Beaver
08-22-11, 06:40
No pinoy with a pot to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in and a fairly good family name would knowingly marry a bar girl. It would be the biggest scandal in the barangay.However I do know of a wealthy old lonely dude from California who married a hottie from Leyte he swore to me was a virgin. What came out in the wash later on was the so called virgin had worked in A. C. with her sister. To make matters worse, the bride had contracted Hep B from taking it up the ass one too many times working in the bar. Now that the kunt has made it to the promised land, he's caught her several times on the dating sites. Obviously, she's just waiting for the pre-nup to fully vest. Her sister also made it to Cali by marrying another old geezer and she's now had a kid from an illegal Mexican. Her white husband is not pleased but he won't leave his kunt either. Dumb bastards.
My current Filippina GF has an annoying habit of biting when we are kissing. I have told her lots of times that I don't like it. Any similar experiences guys? Or is it her stupid habit only?
To flesh this out a bit: we are dfk and she starts doing it. Sure. Maybe she doesn't like kissing. I wish she would just tell me rather than doing the biting thing. I like her but it is starting to really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off.
WestCoast1
08-23-11, 14:59
My current Filippina GF has an annoying habit of biting when we are kissing. I have told her lots of times that I don't like it. Any similar experiences guys? Or is it her stupid habit only?
To flesh this out a bit: we are dfk and she starts doing it. Sure. Maybe she doesn't like kissing. I wish she would just tell me rather than doing the biting thing. I like her but it is starting to really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off.Many pinay also pinch when they are feeling playful. Can be annoying. Never had the biting. Ask her if she'd rather skip the kissing.
My current Filippina GF has an annoying habit of biting when we are kissing. I have told her lots of times that I don't like it. Any similar experiences guys? Or is it her stupid habit only?
To flesh this out a bit: we are dfk and she starts doing it. Sure. Maybe she doesn't like kissing. I wish she would just tell me rather than doing the biting thing. I like her but it is starting to really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off.Do not take it as a bad thing. This means she likes you a lot. Young girls especially like to bite even here in US sometimes. It is just a playfull thing.
Have you heard of a " Hickey ".
I understand your point. Some girls have sharp teeth and it could be painfull biting your toungue or lip.
Some girls do not have much experience kissing. So it is your duty to teach them the right way.
Chocha Monger
08-23-11, 18:11
However I do know of a wealthy old lonely dude from California who married a hottie from Leyte he swore to me was a virgin. What came out in the wash later on was the so called virgin had worked in A. C. with her sister. To make matters worse, the bride had contracted Hep B from taking it up the ass one too many times working in the bar. Now that the kunt has made it to the promised land, he's caught her several times on the dating sites. Obviously, she's just waiting for the pre-nup to fully vest. Her sister also made it to Cali by marrying another old geezer and she's now had a kid from an illegal Mexican. Her white husband is not pleased but he won't leave his kunt either. Dumb bastards.Some guys will do anything to keep that adobo pussy around. It's the loneliness and fear of dying alone that scares them the most. I'm sure the geezer blames himself for not being able to provide his virgin hooker turned wife with a steady diet of standing Hamptons. He figures that the Mexican illegal just gave her what she couldn't get at home. There are thousands of guys like that visiting the Philippines and the girls are just waiting their turn to hop on the gravy train. Leyte girls are professional water buffalo hunters.
Tally Wacker
08-23-11, 19:00
Originally Posted by Hatguy
My current Filippina GF has an annoying habit of biting when we are kissing. I have told her lots of times that I don't like it. Any similar experiences guys? Or is it her stupid habit only?
To flesh this out a bit: we are dfk and she starts doing it. Sure. Maybe she doesn't like kissing. I wish she would just tell me rather than doing the biting thing. I like her but it is starting to really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off.
Do not take it as a bad thing. This means she likes you a lot. Young girls especially like to bite even here in US sometimes. It is just a playfull thing.
Have you heard of a " Hickey ".
I understand your point. Some girls have sharp teeth and it could be painfull biting your toungue or lip.
Some girls do not have much experience kissing. So it is your duty to teach them the right way.I recently had a filipina gf that forgot or never knew how to kiss but would get very wild and would bite too hard durring DFK. I politely told her it hurt but it did not stop it from happening. She ended up sucking my tongue out of my mouth soo hard that she actualy tore the skin underneath my tongue that connects to my mouth and I started bleeding all over. It hurt very bad! When she finaly saw me spitting blood she got the idea she might be hurting me. My tongue continued to hurt for weeks before it healed. She learned to be a great kisser.
Chocha Monger
08-26-11, 05:46
Originally Posted by Hatguy
My current Filippina GF has an annoying habit of biting when we are kissing. I have told her lots of times that I don't like it. Any similar experiences guys? Or is it her stupid habit only?Biting you say? Sounds like a case for the Dog Whisperer. Have you tried obedience training? Some mongers like to put a tight fitting leather collar and junkyard dog leash on the girls and ram them in the ass until they bark at the moon. Others get their rocks off and assert their dominance by dropping their Depends ® and giving the girl a face full of scalding hot [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)!
RasSpewtin
08-26-11, 07:10
My current Filippina GF has an annoying habit of biting when we are kissing. I have told her lots of times that I don't like it. Any similar experiences guys? Or is it her stupid habit only?
To flesh this out a bit: we are dfk and she starts doing it. Sure. Maybe she doesn't like kissing. I wish she would just tell me rather than doing the biting thing. I like her but it is starting to really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off.Hey, Hatguy;
I have experienced two Chinese gf and at least one Filipina gf that were biters. No matter how much I told them to stop biting, they would not. It's just what they did when they were sexually turned on, so asking them to stop biting is the same as asking them not to get turned on. In all cases I got tired of the discomfort and the tell-tale bite marks, the latter not being good for the next girl to see, or worse yet if your wife of fulltime gf sees the marks and starts to ask questions.
Long story short, once a biter always a biter.
Raz
Hey, Hatguy;
I have experienced two Chinese gf and at least one Filipina gf that were biters. No matter how much I told them to stop biting, they would not. It's just what they did when they were sexually turned on, so asking them to stop biting is the same as asking them not to get turned on. In all cases I got tired of the discomfort and the tell-tale bite marks, the latter not being good for the next girl to see, or worse yet if your wife of fulltime gf sees the marks and starts to ask questions.
Long story short, once a biter always a biter.
RazThe other day I bit her on the lip. She had a huge sulky whinge about it and when I got pinched I pinched back. Harder too. Lets see what she does when I see her next.
No Japanese girls ever done the biting thing with me. Maybe I should stick to Japanese? Haha!
over the past year and a half, i've spent about 9 months in the phils. there is much i like about the place, and the girls are awesome. but some things seriously irritate me. 90% of the time when i order an item in a one of the ubiquitous fast food joints, i hear "sorry sir, out of stock." wtf? if your a chicken place, how can you be out of f'ing chicken? if your a burger place, how can you be out of burgers? if you have a 5 item menu, how can you be out of stock on 3 out of 5? anyway, my last and biggest pet peeve is encapsulated in the following thought experiment:
put any filipino / filipina into a giant round room and blind fold them and instruct them to just walk around the room, randomly. put a middle age western man in the same room, and tell him to walk quietly accross the room, from any point, to the exact opposite point on the cirlce, avoiding the filino. what will happen? you can be gauranteed that the filipino will find a way bumble accross his path and try crash into him. not true you say? ok, then try to walk down the street or mall hallway in this damn country.
the bigger you are, and the more obvious your path of travel, the more these small suicidal morons will try to get you to grind them under your feet.
I understand your pain.
Someone from a car culture can easily find it uncomfortable to, umm, walk around in a street like New york, Manila, Tokyo.
I'm a bit uncomfortable with the term "suicidal moron". Maybe you should look upon yourself as a homocidal sidewalk murderer. No?
SNIP.
The bigger you are, and the more obvious your path of travel, the more these small suicidal morons will try to get you to grind them under your feet.
over the past year and a half, i've spent about 9 months in the phils. there is much i like about the place, and the girls are awesome. but some things seriously irritate me. 90% of the time when i order an item in a one of the ubiquitous fast food joints, i hear "sorry sir, out of stock." wtf? if your a chicken place, how can you be out of f'ing chicken? if your a burger place, how can you be out of burgers? if you have a 5 item menu, how can you be out of stock on 3 out of 5? anyway, my last and biggest pet peeve is encapsulated in the following thought experiment:
put any filipino / filipina into a giant round room and blind fold them and instruct them to just walk around the room, randomly. put a middle age western man in the same room, and tell him to walk quietly accross the room, from any point, to the exact opposite point on the cirlce, avoiding the filino. what will happen? you can be gauranteed that the filipino will find a way bumble accross his path and try crash into him. not true you say? ok, then try to walk down the street or mall hallway in this damn country.
the bigger you are, and the more obvious your path of travel, the more these small suicidal morons will try to get you to grind them under your feet.here are the reasons given by a ex jollibee and past restaurent worker.
1. owner does not trust all workers enough to keep lots of stock.
2. workers steal the stock including paper napkins and there is no way to control.
3. so the owner puts let us say 300 chicken pieces in the freezer. so when they are sold he knows it has to match the reciepts.
4. even meat dishes are measured portions before cooking.
5. meatballs are counted also.
i am sure if they can count the rice and noodle portions they will do it also.
this is the reason you get finished answer if you order let us say shrimp adobo because all shrimps are counted and gone.
i know what we are thinking. why loose money if there are customers?
answer is simple. if they stock up like in other advanced countries the owner in phi stands to loose more by pilferage.
Lustforthrust
09-01-11, 16:52
over the past year and a half, i've spent about 9 months in the phils. there is much i like about the place, and the girls are awesome. but some things seriously irritate me. 90% of the time when i order an item in a one of the ubiquitous fast food joints, i hear "sorry sir, out of stock." wtf? if your a chicken place, how can you be out of f'ing chicken? if your a burger place, how can you be out of burgers? if you have a 5 item menu, how can you be out of stock on 3 out of 5? anyway, my last and biggest pet peeve is encapsulated in the following thought experiment:
put any filipino / filipina into a giant round room and blind fold them and instruct them to just walk around the room, randomly. put a middle age western man in the same room, and tell him to walk quietly accross the room, from any point, to the exact opposite point on the cirlce, avoiding the filino. what will happen? you can be gauranteed that the filipino will find a way bumble accross his path and try crash into him. not true you say? ok, then try to walk down the street or mall hallway in this damn country.
the bigger you are, and the more obvious your path of travel, the more these small suicidal morons will try to get you to grind them under your feet.every country has its thing.
hongkongers will man the lift; the close button would be completely worn out and the open would be bright, like it was new. hk women (who usually pass for 10 year-old boys) will do their hair / fix their make-up as soon as they step into a lift that has a mirror. hk men do the same.
Put any Filipino / filipina into a giant round room and blind fold them and instruct them to just walk around the room, randomly. Put a middle age western man in the same room, and tell him to walk quietly accross the room, from any point, to the exact opposite point on the cirlce, avoiding the filino. What will happen? You can be gauranteed that the Filipino will find a way bumble accross his path and try crash into him. Not true you say? Ok, then try to walk down the street or mall hallway in this damn country.
The bigger you are, and the more obvious your path of travel, the more these small suicidal morons will try to get you to grind them under your feet.I swear River I have had that same frustration so much recently. My favorite is they always choose the worst place to get organized. The other day I rode down in the elevator of my apartment bldg with a mother and 2 children. The kids were on the way to school the mother was going to do a bunch of errands. The kids were carrying huge heavy backpacks and the mother had a purse and several other bags. They stood in the elevator the whole time half asleep. Once we hit the ground floor they kind of sleepwalked to the front door of the bldg, side by side so I couldn't walk around them. Once they reached the front door they all stopped in front of it, shoulder to shoulder, dropped their bags and started looking for something. It created it a huge backlog of people both outside and inside the door. I walked right next to them and said excuse me in a loud voice, they all looked up startled like they couldn't believe there was any one else on the planet who needed to use the front door.
Soapy Smith
09-01-11, 18:53
Once we hit the ground floor they kind of sleepwalked to the front door of the bldg, side by side so I couldn't walk around them. Once they reached the front door they all stopped in front of it, shoulder to shoulder, dropped their bags and started looking for something. It created it a huge backlog of people both outside and inside the door. I walked right next to them and said excuse me in a loud voice, they all looked up startled like they couldn't believe there was any one else on the planet who needed to use the front door.When I'm at my most frustrated with these behaviors I just characterize them as a sort of spatial oblivion. It's like they're unaware of anybody else's reasonable movement needs. Obviously the same phenomenon gets acted out on the streets of Metro Manila every day. All of the idiotic lane changes, lane straddling, and cutting each other off on EDSA and elsewhere end up creating a continuous expanding and contracting accordion effect that slows everybody down in the long run. And of course they compound the problem with endless and pointless blasts of their vehicle horns.
But I think that Filipinos are simply accustomed to tighter spatial orientation as compared especially to Americans, Canadians, and Australians, as we take for granted the luxury of being able to stretch out. Filipinos accept the crowded circumstances as an unavoidable consequence of living in the densely populated Metro Manila area. Obviously there's also some inexplicable political / cultural aspect to the problem, however, since some densely populated East Asian countries seem to have created much more orderly traffic systems-although their human-to-human spacing and movement patterns in shopping malls, train stations and the like are not unlike the Philippines.
Speaking from the American experience, however, it could be argued that our "don't fence me in" mentality has led to an equally idiotic problem with "urban sprawl." We've become so dependent on private automobiles that we end up with stores, malls, and eateries spread out all over hell's half acre. As fossil fuels become increasing scarce and costly-and contribute inexorably to global climate change-we are going to be facing major headaches in trying to build mass transportation systems and replace our sprawled out commercial infrastructure.
I had an interesting conversation yesterday with a young American woman who had just returned to grad school after three months in rural Nicaragua. She said she'd had to leave home an hour and a half early to drive to class, although she lived only about two miles from campus. The problems: traffic and parking congestion, inconvenient public transportation, and big classes packed into limited space and having to start and finish right on time in order to accommodate classes on either side that need the same classroom space. She found herself wanting to return immediately to Nicaragua, where she lived a much simpler life, simpler diet, no eating out and rare shopping trips, travel by foot or bus to the few places she needed to get to, and getting things done on a leisurely daily schedule. Others might not agree with her priorities, but her experience does beg the question of the relative merits of an efficiency- and instrumentally-focused Western lifestyle versus the laid back Philippine (and especially Philippine provincial) lifestyle.
BTW, the sleepwalking characterization may be right on. I have seen so many Filipinos sleeping on buses and in the LRT that I have surmised that many of them are seriously sleep-deprived.
Every country has its thing.
HongKongers will man the lift; the Close button would be completely worn out and the Open would be bright, like it was new. HK women (who usually pass for 10 year-old boys) will do their hair / fix their make-up as soon as they step into a lift that has a mirror. HK men do the same.That is how you can tell you are in HKG if you wake up lost or drunk – look at the lift button! (Less so on Kowloon side). The bitches will even push the close button as they watch you two steps from the door. I delight in jamming my hand to reverse the door closure mechanism. Open the door and telling them (in Mandarin) they are fing rude. Makes for a silent trip down or up.
As for the mirror? Its a well known technique for reducing vandalism in lifts in several countries. Keeps those of Low IQ occupied
I have seen the same with Australian women in mall car parks. If I see no spare parking spaces – but a woman getting into a car to leave I don't bother waiting. She will take forever to move the car – mostly because of the same 'Budgie reflex' 1 . She sees a reversing mirror and suddenly decide its the opportunity to fix makeup or hair. With the engine running! If woman is driving me out of a carpark I tell her [ don't be a budgie .7 times out of ten they can't help themsleves.
I swear . If women didn't have a puss.
RB.
1 Budgie – a small colourful bird kept as pets in small cages, owners put a small mirror in the cage so the bird does not feel alone. Budgies will spend hours looking in and pecking the mirror.
Charlie Horse
09-01-11, 21:31
This one has made the rounds.
Men vs Women at the ATM drive up:
MALE PROCEDURE:
1. Drive up to the cash machine.
2. Put down your car window.
3. Insert card into machine and enter PIN.
4. Enter amount of cash required and withdraw.
5. Retrieve card, cash and receipt.
6. Put window up.
7. Drive off.
* *
FEMALE PROCEDURE:
1. Drive up to cash machine.
2. Reverse and back up the required amount to align car window with the machine.
3. Set parking brake, put the window down.
4. Find handbag, remove all contents on to passenger seat to locate card.
5. Tell person on cell phone you will call them back and hang up.
6. Attempt to insert card into machine.
7. Open car door to allow easier access to machine due to its excessive distance from the car.
8. Insert card.
9. Re-insert card the right way.
10. Dig through handbag to find diary with your PIN written on the inside back page.
11. Enter PIN.
12. Press cancel and re-enter correct PIN.
13. Enter amount of cash required.
14. Check makeup in rear view mirror.
15. Retrieve cash and receipt.
16. Empty handbag again to locate wallet and place cash inside.
17. Write debit amount in check register and place receipt in back of checkbook.
18. Re-check makeup.
19. Drive forward 2 feet.
20. Reverse back to cash machine.
21. Retrieve card.
22. Re-empty hand bag, locate card holder, and place card into the slot provided.
23. Give dirty look to irate male driver waiting behind you.
24. Restart stalled engine and pull off.
25. Redial person on cell phone.
26. Drive for 2 to 3 miles.
27. Release Parking Brake.
FreebieFan
09-02-11, 01:51
That is how you can tell you are in HKG if you wake up lost or drunk – look at the lift button. The bitches will even push the close button as they watch you two steps from the door. I delight in jamming my hand to reverse the door closure mechanism. Open the door and telling them (in Mandarin) they are fing rude. Makes for a silent trip down or up.Would have thought telling them in Cantonese would be more effective. Whilst Mandarin is becoming more used in shops, thanks to 22 million mainland visitors, Cantonese is still the lingua franca in HK. But I'm sure you know that.
Would have thought telling them in Cantonese would be more effective. Whilst Mandarin is becoming more used in shops, thanks to 22 million mainland visitors, Cantonese is still the lingua franca in HK. But I'm sure you know that.Yes. Cantonese is the main language there. But my point was they understood the tone if nothing else.
Not really x-man. More of sidewalk manslaughterer. The point is, its extremely strange that with 20 foot of freeboard walkspace on either side of me in a mall hallway, walking in a straight line, some tiny filipina / Filipino will diverge from their path of travel to try to walk head-on into a 6'-3" 265 lbs man. This happens over and over again and it is weird.
GoodEnough
09-04-11, 10:07
twice in the last couple of days, i've wandered through malls, both in greenbelt (makati) and davao, and again i've witnessed the same sort of mindless, aimless, irrational pedestrian behavior that i observe daily as i drive the streets of davao. if i remember my human physiology correctly, it's the autonomic system that regulates several repetitive, crucial bodily functions-such as blinking or breathing-which are thus undertaken without conscious thought. that is, they just happen without conscious intervention on our part. it seems to me that the autonomic nervous system of the filipinos is more expansive than ours, regulating almost every aspect of life, which appears to be divorced from consciousness and happens without thought. this surely applies to walking and driving, and perhaps to other areas of life as well.
today i was walking in a straight line going to a store in sm mall in davao, when i noticed that the guy mopping the floors was dazedly following a haphazard semi-diagonal path (thus ignoring great swaths of dirty floor what would remain unmopped) that would carry him straight into me, which is exactly what happened. i shoved him away from me and he appeared to awaken for a brief moment, mumble something like "oh, sorry sir," and then continue on his mindless journey. i guess when he bumps into wall, that's the clue for him to turn around and follow another path. immediately afterward, two women, walking several pedestrian lanes to my far left abruptly swerved right and would have run into me had i not stopped to allow them to pass. they didn't even glance in my direction and i doubt they even noticed me.
i've often remarked when driving here, that there doesn't appear to be any connection between the actions of drivers and their brains. pure impulse rules always, so that if you're in the far left lane and want to turn right, you just do it, cause after all that's what you feel like doing at that split second. it's simply amazing to witness, and it's endlessly entertaining, cause even after you've witnesses what you assume is the zenith, the very quintessence of idiotic driving behavior, the next day you're likely to see something that surpasses it.
about a week ago, i was met by my driver in butuan who, after i had finished my business there dropped me off at the airport and was ready to drive the car back to davao. as he was driving, in his lane, at the speed limit, some idiot on a motorcycle going in the other direction, pulled out to pass a truck and ran smack into the front of my car. the result? the motorcycle maniac wound up with two broken legs, his passenger received a non-fatal puncture wound, my car got slightly banged up, and my driver had to wait around butuan for another day, dragging the motorcycle moron to the hospital, getting a police report, and reporting the accident to our insurance company. this time, the mindlessness had some real consequences.
ge
This time, the mindlessness had some real consequences.
GEI can see why you had to vent it. We all need a good laugh every day. As for the floor cleaner unlike 20% of PI he has a job. Heheheh (yes I know the gov says 7% they only include those that have paid tax I reckon)
I feel your pain. But in the end they are not in a hurry. You are! You may feel blessed or damned by your size, but it is your obligation to show that all big men aren't menacing.
Okay, here is a better logic, if you prefer. They have some kind of encoded radar and they detect each other. You are some kind of alien and their radar doesn't pick you up. That's why they crash into you. It's mostly your fault since you aren't using the same radar system. Get used to it. Radarman.
Not really x-man. More of sidewalk manslaughterer. The point is, its extremely strange that with 20 foot of freeboard walkspace on either side of me in a mall hallway, walking in a straight line, some tiny filipina / Filipino will diverge from their path of travel to try to walk head-on into a 6'-3" 265 lbs man. This happens over and over again and it is weird.
WestCoast1
09-04-11, 16:20
Not really x-man. More of sidewalk manslaughterer. The point is, its extremely strange that with 20 foot of freeboard walkspace on either side of me in a mall hallway, walking in a straight line, some tiny filipina / Filipino will diverge from their path of travel to try to walk head-on into a 6'-3" 265 lbs man. This happens over and over again and it is weird.On a related note, pilipinos seem not only to be unaware of where they are going (impulsively changing direction in the mall or street without looking or caring, like teens listening to an mp3 player) , they also have trouble (from a western perspective) with spotting a landmark or other easily identifiable item (such as Riverman, or myself). I would bet that you can think of this happening a dozen times.
WHERE THE HOTEL? Right next to the Mcdo hun. Largest building around. Ten story building. I NOT SEE IT. See the McDo? YES. Right next door, my hotel is the only large building on the block. COME OUTSIDE FIND ME. I NOT SEE IT. Jesus de Christo, go home.
WHERE ARE YOU? YOU SAID MEET AT 8. Yes hun, I'm here in the food court like I said. Blond hair. BUT I NOT SEE YOU. Are you in the food court. 3rd floor? NO. DOWNSTAIRS. Come to the food court. OK AM FOOD COURT NOW. WHERE U? Having coffee at Bo's. Food court. Blond hair. Find me. I NOT SEE YOU. Do you see Bo's Coffee? YES. I'm sitting outside Bo's. STILL NOT SEE YOU. Blond hair, blue eyes, standing up now. Taller than everyone else. Red shirt white pants sandals. STILL NOT SEE U. COME FIND ME. You are kidding? Come say Hi to me or go home. BUT I WANT TO MEET YOU.
This last item, unable to see me in a public place, can be attributed to stupidity, or also shyness. Many girls are too scared to approach a man in public and say Hi. They will go home and chat me up later on the internet, interestingly mad at me. I tell them before meeting for the first time that they must approach me at the coffee shop and say Hi, that I will not be the first one to speak. They never have a problem with that in chat, but some do have a problem with it when they must actually say Hello, in public. Once they go home, without meeting me, having been 10 feet away, they blame it on me: YOU NOT SHOW UP THAT MALL. YOU ARE LIAR! Also, it becomes clear in chat later that pinay think that they are as easy for me to spot, as I am for them to spot (as GE said, amazing to witness this revelation, and it never ceases to amaze). You actually have to explain to them that this is not true: she looks like most other pinay her age (many in the mall) , while I look COMPLETELY unlike every human in the mall."Oh ya. Hahaha sorry." Its amazing that this stupid creature has survived to age 22. I think that if one of my grown kids said they were going to the mall Starbucks to meet a 7'-tall man with purple hair wearing a red clown outfit, then came home and said he was there but could not find him, I'd shoot my kid and make another smarter one.
Hairy Wonder
09-04-11, 17:16
.two women, walking several pedestrian lanes to my far left abruptly swerved right and would have run into me had I not stopped to allow them to pass. They didn't even glance in my direction and I doubt they even noticed me.Maybe a good goose or grope would have gotten their attention. :o And quite possibly some bedroom action later! :D
Hairy Wonder
09-04-11, 17:27
It never seemed to bother me when this happened in the malls in PI. I guess maybe I'm used to it happening in the malls here in US also. Which is one reason I avoid going to the malls here. Another possible reason it didn't bother me, could have been my attention being focused on all the sweet filipinas walking around! :D
While I was in Korea, the closest thing I experienced to this was their tendency to walk 4 or 5 abreast down the sidewalks, making it impossible for anyone to pass in either direction. A coworker and I took up walking around our local town every day as a form of exercise for about 2 years. We never failed to find this situation occur somewhere along our route. Often times, it was the same group that we had encountered on previous days. Initially, we tried being nice and moving to the side so the group could pass us without anyone stepping out of their formation. Eventually, it became so irritating that we changed our tactics and started aiming for the center of their formation with our elbows pointed out to our sides. After a few of these football like moves, the formations happened less frequently. :)
Ok, I have to chime in here that for a man to say to a woman that they are "similar to other women" just leads to trouble. Women like to think that they (meaning her only) stand out from the rest of the crowd.
Also, it becomes clear in chat later that pinay think that they are as easy for me to spot, as I am for them to spot (as GE said, amazing to witness this revelation, and it never ceases to amaze). You actually have to explain to them that this is not true: she looks like most other pinay her age (many in the mall) , while I look COMPLETELY unlike every human in the mall."
FreebieFan
09-05-11, 03:26
true: she looks like most other pinay her age (many in the mall) , while I look COMPLETELY unlike every human in the mall."Oh ya. Hahaha sorry." Its amazing that this stupid creature has survived to age 22. I think that if one of my grown kids said they were going to the mall Starbucks to meet a 7'-tall man with purple hair wearing a red clown outfit, then came home and said he was there but could not find him, I'd shoot my kid and make another smarter one.Actually this post reminds me of the day I was in Makati, near the wonderfully named Quick Stomach waiting to meet a girl. She was a cute and smarter than average girl.
Said she was on her way, and when she got there what was I wearing so she could recognise me.
I told her I was wearing an orange blazer, white pants, red shoes, a golden shirt topped off with a blue hat with a feather. She arrived and I could see her look at me then all the other people around (all Filipinos) then back at me.
She said " Freebie?". I said " Gotcha.". She smiled, we smiled and a great night followed.
I recall that decribed it later that its not a one night stand, but a one night laydown.
Try riding a motor bike in PI, you will see crazy. LOL
FreebieFan
09-05-11, 06:43
I've often remarked when driving here, that there doesn't appear to be any connection between the actions of drivers and their brains. Pure impulse rules always, so that if you're in the far left lane and want to turn right, you just do it, cause after all that's what you feel like doing at that split second. It's simply amazing to witness, and it's endlessly entertaining, cause even after you've witnesses what you assume is the zenith, the very quintessence of idiotic driving behavior, the next day you're likely to see something that surpasses it.
GEThe other highly interesting and highly entertaining part of driving anywhere in the Philippines is the notion of who has priority, or right of way. In many countries it is well established that the major road has the right of way over the minor road. In roundabouts the driver in the "circle" has right of way over the driver approaching the circle. However in the Philippines it is quite normal that the guy on the big road will stop, to let the guy in the small road in. Doesn't realise that hes unnecessarily blocked the traffic flow and often nearly caused an accident. Roundabouts are really fun to watch if only for the variety of actions that people take when on them and approaching them.
And if you ever want to have a discussion that lacks logic try asking a security guard why he blocks a busy two lane road so one driver can exit a driveway (think Polo club on McKinley in Manila ). Most guys in other more logical countries wait till its their turn to merge with traffic. Ah well. These quirks are all forgotten when big foreigner successfully merges with small cute girl, stopping only for breath or red flags.
Cunning Stunt
09-05-11, 07:40
Today I was walking in a straight line going to a store in SM Mall in Davao, when I noticed that the guy mopping the floors was dazedly following a haphazard semi-diagonal path (thus ignoring great swaths of dirty floor what would remain unmopped) that would carry him straight into me, which is exactly what happened. I shoved him away from me and he appeared to awaken for a brief moment, mumble something like "Oh, sorry sir," and then continue on his mindless journey. I guess when he bumps into wall, that's the clue for him to turn around and follow another path.
GECongratulations GE, on surviving your encounter with the Filipino mopping man. They are the bain of my life, and if I am out at the mall, it is guaranteed that I will have a close encounter with one of this strange species that seem to commonly inhabit all shops, fast food outlets and large stores and is to be found only in the Philippines. The most common type is the amazing waterfree mopper. This is the creature that wanders round malls, without a bucket or water source in visible sight, assiduously pushing the dirt from one place to another with their filthy mops. They are aggressive beasts who have a particular dislike of sandals worn by strolling ' minding their own business' foreigners who they attack on sight, seemingly going out of their way to run their filthy mopheads over the offending footwear. They get me every time.
Over the past few weeks, there have been quite a number of posts denigrating all filipinas as being liars and cheats.
The posters seem to be guys who fly into the Phils, spend time in Angeles, Manila, or the fleshpots of Cebu. Doing their best to stick their little head into as many see*ts as possible in a short period of time. And then extrapolating that experience to the entire population. Rarely do they ever meet an average, ordinary Filipino and have any meaningful relationship with them, men or women.
It is like flying into Australia, staying in a cheap hotel in King's Cross, and concluding that all Australians are prostitutes, strippers, drug addicts, drug dealers or standover men.
There are about 47 million females in the Phils. Maybe 2, 000 wg's in Angeles, maybe 1, 000 in Burgos, maybe 500 in Cebu. Less than 0. 01% of the female population.
The vast majority of filipinas are honest, hard working women, doing their best to raise families, faithful to their husbands, loyal to their kids. Prepared to starve so that their kids can get a college education.
Similarly, most husbands are hard working family men. Vast numbers take jobs in shitty conditions in foreign lands so that they can support their families. They might get home once every two years. 80% of all seamen in the world are Filipino men.
All of them doing the best that they can.
They are no more liars and cheats than the average American, or Australian, or Brit.
Get real.
Soapy Smith
09-11-11, 06:39
The posters seem to be guys who fly into the Phils, spend time in Angeles, Manila, or the fleshpots of Cebu. Doing their best to stick their little head into as many see*ts as possible in a short period of time. And then extrapolating that experience to the entire population. Rarely do they ever meet an average, ordinary Filipino and have any meaningful relationship with them, men or women.Some related observations:
As Barba pointed out in a recent post in another thread, many of the posted stories are intended to impress others. Braggadocio breeds exaggeration.
Posting these kinds of judgments about Filipinas helps to sustain a rationale that reinforces the attitude that these guys brought to the Philippines in the first place. It says as much about the monger as about the women.
In the instance of one loquacious poster, well known for his cynical statements about Filipinas, I increasingly suspect he has in fact never been to the Philippines. His references to Filipinas, other mongers, and his own exploits are so generic that they sound like oft-repeated Penthouse letters in which the nationalities, characteristics, and identities of the participants are essentially interchangeable. My hunch is he lives in Detroit in his mother's house and spends his days cutting-and-pasting words and ideas from the internet-as a way to live vicariously through other men's experiences while pretending to be on top of the heap himself.
I think some posters cannot relate to the fact that not everybody who participates in the forum does so because they're sex tourists. I for one really appreciate the perspectives contributed to the forum by ex-pats and others who've actually spent some extended time in the Philippines.
Member #4491
09-11-11, 10:14
My hunch is he lives in Detroit in his mother's house and spends his days cutting-and-pasting words and ideas from the internet-as a way to live vicariously through other men's experiences while pretending to be on top of the heap himself.LOL. What an exciting life. Almost being John Malkovich. SMILEY Just almost. Written without resentment but rather amazement about the length us humans will go to feed the little baby ego within. The irony is that also the baby ego will grow and demand bigger and bigger portions until all we do is showing down the lies, trying to impress and live in the reflection of how other people sees us. Who ever you are. Pack your bags and come on over in September! Being in Asia, and I mean really being there not just drinking there, will give you many valuable lessons in how to let your ego step down for a more humble and balanced ideology of life. I sound like I want to be some Buddha, and I don't mean to come across as preaching but for me it has been such a huge eye opener to spend time in Asia. Politeness, humbleness, ability to see the small joys in life, respect for humans wherever they are in their orbit, etc. Not saying I execute this always, I am still a narcissistic, greedy, selfish, self centered European excitement freak, but at least now I can see this and sometimes adjust to cause myself and others more joy.
On the topic of pinays I rarely even comment the cynical views presented by some members. I have them in my extended family and all around me, and there are of course all types and kinds of humans wherever we choose to look on this little pale blue dot. Ridiculously uninitiated idea to state that all pinays are passive aggressive liars and scammers. If you harbor this idea you should look around you, wherever you are. Shit attracts flies, and if you find yourself constantly surrounded by buzzing little creatures puking over you before they eat you, you perhaps should consider altering your own life style, attitude and philosophy.
Two weeks to go. Hurray! SMILEY And to one of my good friends from here who know who you are; the big man will join me!
Barba
Some related observations:
As Barba pointed out in a recent post in another thread, many of the posted stories are intended to impress others. Braggadocio breeds exaggeration.
I think some posters cannot relate to the fact that not everybody who participates in the forum does so because they're sex tourists. I for one really appreciate the perspectives contributed to the forum by ex-pats and others who've actually spent some extended time in the Philippines.Skip, surely you cannot be insinuating that there are some contributors that might embellish their experiences to the point of not being truthful! I am shocked, shocked I tell you.
Of the gentlemen I have met from this board, I can say that almost none of them would fall into the "tourist" category, and while do participate in P4P, they seem to enjoy the ladies themselves as much as the activity they provide. I suspect that because I fall into that category I tend to socialize with like minded individuals. A keyboard and internet connection can lead to all sorts of "wild tales", most of which are readily apparent.
I do admit that finding a nugget of good information is worth weeding thru all the slurry. At least in my opinion!
Sky
GoodEnough
09-11-11, 14:07
Some related observations:
I think some posters cannot relate to the fact that not everybody who participates in the forum does so because they're sex tourists. I for one really appreciate the perspectives contributed to the forum by ex-pats and others who've actually spent some extended time in the Philippines.Can I get an Amen! Well said and I, of course, concur 100% with Skip. I know that this is a sex board, and for the guys living in their mom's basements in Detroit or other dismal places, I guess it's a disappointment that every single post doesn't relate to endless recapitulations of lubricity, venue, temperature, number of orgasms, what she said during sex, or the costs involved. But really, how many ways are there to speak about this stuff in a way that doesn't sound like pulp fiction? I applaud the cultural insights that I've gained from some of the more astute members of this board, and I appreciate the perspective they've achieved from actually taking the time to relate to some of the women as real people, and not sperm receptacles. As to those who indulge in a modest amount of "poetic license" when describing their rampant poles and the willing holes, well, the guys in Detroit need to get something from this board too.
GE
Skip Kost is very perceptive.
His comment made me think how true that is. Who is telling the most lies. Take the bar girls for example. A bar girl deals with hundreds, or thousands of men like us. These men tell lies, deceive the girls, promise them that they love her, if only she will root them now, promise that they will come back later to barfine her when they know they will not, promise to take her out of the bar, and make her a respected woman in Australia / USA / UK / Canada / Germany / etc.
Sometimes the girl goes for it, then gets dumped, or pregnant and dumped.
Even the woman who introduced me to Miss P, Mis A1 (not a bar girl) , has been waiting for months for her visa to join her fiancée in the US, but she is beginning to think he has pulled out. Miss F's sister, Miss A2 (not a bar girl) , had a foreigner boyfriend for two years, but he dumped her for a younger, girl with no children and a flawless body.
So these pinays, like wg and bargirls, deal with foreigner lies every day and night, continuous deception by foreigners, yet they keep on, creating the fantasy for the customer. It must take a great deal of cynicism and optimism on their part to keep on going.
So, like the old saying. Is it the pot that is calling the kettle black?
G.
Some related observations:
As Barba pointed out in a recent post in another thread, many of the posted stories are intended to impress others. Braggadocio breeds exaggeration.
Posting these kinds of judgments about Filipinas helps to sustain a rationale that reinforces the attitude that these guys brought to the Philippines in the first place. It says as much about the monger as about the women.
In the instance of one loquacious poster, well known for his cynical statements about Filipinas, I increasingly suspect he has in fact never been to the Philippines. His references to Filipinas, other mongers, and his own exploits are so generic that they sound like oft-repeated Penthouse letters in which the nationalities, characteristics, and identities of the participants are essentially interchangeable. My hunch is he lives in Detroit in his mother's house and spends his days cutting-and-pasting words and ideas from the internet-as a way to live vicariously through other men's experiences while pretending to be on top of the heap himself.
I think some posters cannot relate to the fact that not everybody who participates in the forum does so because they're sex tourists. I for one really appreciate the perspectives contributed to the forum by ex-pats and others who've actually spent some extended time in the Philippines.
Chocha Monger
09-12-11, 04:26
Interesting, it is not often that mongers take a hard long look into the ugly face of sex tourism and see it staring right back at them. It takes a lot of courage for mongers to admit that they are bad and do very bad things to innocent young girls who are vulnerable due to their unfortunate economic circumstances. Everyone knows that an 18 yr old girl takes no pleasure in sucking on the ancient testicles of a guy who could be her great grandfather. Some lie to themselves and others that the girls actually want to do it. They do it out of economic necessity and nothing else. Bald heads, wrinkled skin, age spots, gray hair, potbellies, cataracts, false teeth and erectile dysfunction are not the hallmarks of sexual attractiveness in any country. The girls do their best to stomach these things in order to get some money to improve their lives and that of their families. Some of them are so overcome with revulsion that they want to flee immediately after the sordid sex act. Many of the guys don't even know they're revolting and they become angry when the girls muster the courage to perform sex but have not the fortitude to spend the night cuddled with a decrepit. Having to fuck the Crypt Keeper to earn her bar fine is one thing but pretending to be his girlfriend and spending the night in his creepy embrace is another. In the West a quinquagenarian who sucks on the young pussy and fresh tits of an 18 yr old girl would be considered among the sickest of perverts right up the with Warren Steed Jeffs. In the United States, Canada, Australia, and the UK one does not find 18 yr old Filipinas lying down for grandpa to stud them after swallowing the contents of a blister pack of Viagra as though they were M&Ms ®. It's not natural. When the girls take the money and run one can hardly condemn them for it. It's really the sex tourist and the sexpats who are fresh, forward and out of order for expecting those girls to stick around for the best years of their youth watching them drool into their strained peas. Old women with wrinkled spotted skin, sagging mammaries and gray furred kunts do not sexually excite us and it is absurd, ignorant and delusional to suggest that the male equivalent excites teenage girls. After all, if you were not Brad Pitt at home then you certainly did not become him when the plane landed in the Philippines. Wake the fuck up and realize all that you have to offer the girls is money and nothing else. Play your position and keep the money flowing freely. Take the sex that you would not be getting back home and don't behave like some doddering lovesick fool when she goes off to get sexed by her handsome young Filipino stud. Face it. He can give her something you can never give her even with all the money in the world. Don't worry. She'll be back as long as you keep that wallet open.
CM and others have missed one point that can linger for years in the minds of these pretty young things. It's the mental anguish that some endure later in life from all of the ancient swinging dicks they've sucked and f'cked. I've heard of some crazy mental issues that they cannot forget about. I'm sure there's mental pain that cannot be measured and is not spoken about very often.
I'm not flaming you, but if you could please break up your posts into smaller paragraphs, they would be easier for everyone to comprehend. I agree with everything you said.
In the instance of one loquacious poster, well known for his cynical statements about Filipinas, I increasingly suspect he has in fact never been to the Philippines. His references to Filipinas, other mongers, and his own exploits are so generic that they sound like oft-repeated Penthouse letters in which the nationalities, characteristics, and identities of the participants are essentially interchangeable.Don't usually post in this thread but I wanted to comment in view of the poster in question. Several weeks ago in another thread, Cunning Stunt first commented on something I've known for quite some time; that he is a sham! With his skewed vision of Pinays, his constant rhetoric is getting very tiring so much so I've put him on ignore.
The funny thing is that he has many members here eating out of his back pocket and getting a chuckle out of it! Most senior members that have lived and traveled around the RP know the score. So I cite the old saying that opinions are like assholes, everybody has got one!
Chocha Monger
09-12-11, 07:52
CM and others have missed one point that can linger for years in the minds of these pretty young things. It's the mental anguish that some endure later in life from all of the ancient swinging dicks they've sucked and f'cked. I've heard of some crazy mental issues that they cannot forget about. I'm sure there's mental pain that cannot be measured and is not spoken about very often.
I'm not flaming you, but if you could please break up your posts into smaller paragraphs, they would be easier for everyone to comprehend. I agree with everything you said.Thanks for mentioning that oversight. Yes, all that aged salami does royally fuck them up in the head. Some girls turn to drugs to soothe the demons. Of course, the predators that feed upon their young flesh will try to deny all of this just like Warren Jeffs did. It makes them really angry to see the truth revealed. It really gets that blood pressure up and makes them stroke out. It's funny that these same perverts get worked up if some pervert back at home pokes their daughters and granddaughters in one or all of their holes.
Soapy Smith
09-12-11, 08:33
his constant rhetoric is getting very tiring so much so I've put him on ignore.Why didn't I think of that? It's like having a switch that automatically mutes all the TV ads, and it's reassuring that some sources of aggravation can be so easily eliminated.
Sounds like CM ate something pretty sour for breakfast.
And he seems to be a bit ignorant of the reality of filipina sex life.
The vast majority of filipinos have absolutely no sex education, which means that they know nothing about how to pleasure a woman. Almost all of the filipinas that I have talked with have never had an orgasm. They know only one sex position, which is starfish. Their experience of sex is that their guy sticks his wee wee in, wiggles around, grunts and hollers. Then pulls out, leaving her lying there, unsatisfied. This then, is what she sees as being the normal sexual experience.
Then she meets and makes love with a western guy. He pays attention to her, he arouses her sexually, he srtokes her in ways and places that she has never imagined before. And before she knows what is happening, she is convulsing uncontrollably in an orgasm. She is stunned, beside herself. And she wants more.
She knows that she will not get it with a pinoy bf, so she keeps coming back to the foreigner (s) for more.
Pretty quickly, she begins to blossom into the real, sexual being, that she is.
And she loves it. She becomes addicted to it.
And she only gets this kind of attention and satisfaction from the foreigner guy.
The experience that he has, to enable her to achieve this wonderful blossoming comes from the many years of experience that he has accumulated.
If she has to make a choice between stability, comfort, travel, fun, sensuality, sexuality, being treated as an equal, whose opinion is respected. As against a well meaning, loving man who is financially unstable, has no respect for her opinions, has no idea as to how to pleasure his woman.
Which does she choose? Which trade off?
Up to you to decide.
G.
Interesting, it is not often that mongers take a hard long look into the ugly face of sex tourism and see it staring right back at them. It takes a lot of courage for mongers to admit that they are bad and do very bad things to innocent young girls who are vulnerable due to their unfortunate economic circumstances. Everyone knows that an 18 yr old girl takes no pleasure in sucking on the ancient testicles of a guy who could be her great grandfather. Some lie to themselves and others that the girls actually want to do it. They do it out of economic necessity and nothing else. Bald heads, wrinkled skin, age spots, gray hair, potbellies, cataracts, false teeth and erectile dysfunction are not the hallmarks of sexual attractiveness in any country. The girls do their best to stomach these things in order to get some money to improve their lives and that of their families. Some of them are so overcome with revulsion that they want to flee immediately after the sordid sex act. Many of the guys don't even know they're revolting and they become angry when the girls muster the courage to perform sex but have not the fortitude to spend the night cuddled with a decrepit. Having to fuck the Crypt Keeper to earn her bar fine is one thing but pretending to be his girlfriend and spending the night in his creepy embrace is another. In the West a quinquagenarian who sucks on the young pussy and fresh tits of an 18 yr old girl would be considered among the sickest of perverts right up the with Warren Steed Jeffs. In the United States, Canada, Australia, and the UK one does not find 18 yr old Filipinas lying down for grandpa to stud them after swallowing the contents of a blister pack of Viagra as though they were M&Ms ®. It's not natural. When the girls take the money and run one can hardly condemn them for it. It's really the sex tourist and the sexpats who are fresh, forward and out of order for expecting those girls to stick around for the best years of their youth watching them drool into their strained peas. Old women with wrinkled spotted skin, sagging mammaries and gray furred kunts do not sexually excite us and it is absurd, ignorant and delusional to suggest that the male equivalent excites teenage girls. After all, if you were not Brad Pitt at home then you certainly did not become him when the plane landed in the Philippines. Wake the fuck up and realize all that you have to offer the girls is money and nothing else. Play your position and keep the money flowing freely. Take the sex that you would not be getting back home and don't behave like some doddering lovesick fool when she goes off to get sexed by her handsome young Filipino stud. Face it. He can give her something you can never give her even with all the money in the world. Don't worry. She'll be back as long as you keep that wallet open.
CM and others have missed one point that can linger for years in the minds of these pretty young things. It's the mental anguish that some endure later in life from all of the ancient swinging dicks they've sucked and f'cked. I've heard of some crazy mental issues that they cannot forget about. I'm sure there's mental pain that cannot be measured and is not spoken about very often.
I'm not flaming you, but if you could please break up your posts into smaller paragraphs, they would be easier for everyone to comprehend. I agree with everything you said.Well timed post I was told today a bipolar girl I knew who worked in the bar has killed her self, (look at the wrist of every girl you see in the bar see how many have scars) so many times I had a text or news from her that she had met her new bf who was there to take her away. They never did (they just wanted free sex). Sounds like the last one put her over the edge. I met her in a bar and I see one of her friends on a regular basis we knew she was not coping but no one was there when it happened.
This is why I get pissed off with some of the post here boasting how they get the girl for nothing, no thought of what it is doing to her. I live here with gf's and a few friends who give me benefits and for that I make it worth their time.
First we are old mean spirited bums who fuck them over.
Then we give them a experince of clean sheets, eaten pussy and they see God.
Oh, something tells me it must be somwhere in the middle. I am a old Viagra eating wrinkled skin pervert. Yet I do like to see them eat and nut. Real food, Why is life the way it is?
Good reads.
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