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WildHawk
04-28-12, 16:39
Judging by this members previous posts, some with very negative and as far as I can see, completely unwarranted attitude towards Dr. BJ, I wonder if the above report is true.)I hesitate to get in the middle of a good pissing match, but I felt inclined to check out the Dr. BJ website.

It all looked fine and good, judging from the "nurse, etc." photos and all. But after jumping to the FAQs page I am a little suspicious: If that is not the very popular Chinese-American porn star Evelyn Lin and truly a member of the, er, ahem, staff, then I am jumping my booking to Bangkok up from June to, like, right now. C'mon, doc! That kind of thing is a trust-breaker.

Mackin
04-28-12, 17:01
Guys, I have been to Dr. BJ's. It was last December. The ladies in the pictures are real. My service at the time was very good and the there were some nice looking ladies there. Remember, just because you like it or don't doesn't mean a lot. We are all different. Just look at your buddies wife and ask how many of them you want to get it on with.

The place was clean and there was no leading you down the path. But again, everyone is different in what they like. So instead of bad mouthing something just say you didn't find anything that interested you. Remember, someone has seen you with something that we wouldn't touch with that 10 foot poll.

Disclaimer, I don't have anything to do with Dr BJ's except as a client when I am in town.

Run Mann
04-28-12, 17:10
(Not that I am recommending Dr. BJ. I have never been there, but will say that Dr. BJ's posts are in general much more interesting than Wolf Hound's and he does not seem rude or obnoxius. As far as I can remember from the webpages, there is some fairly attractive staff there too. Perhaps Wolf Hound was offended because he came in expecting to get a BJ from the doctor, but the doctor turned him down?)I've visited the same shop twice and will say that most of the ladies in the shop looked nothing like the pics on the web site, granted those pics are enhanced in an effort to lure one in. It may be that they may not have had their make up at those times. Wolf may be crass in his delivery but his ultimate message about the lack of beauty is very true. Overall, BJ bars will never have beautiful ladies and why would they? A beautiful woman is not going to suck cocks when she could make much more money doing much less (star fish) work for much more money. I still say the girls at Lollipop are the best BJ chicks in town in terms of looks and accommodations. Skilled BJ artists are an endangered species over here.

Romannico
04-28-12, 18:14
judging by this members previous posts, some with very negative and as far as i can see, completely unwarranted attitude towards dr. bj, i wonder if the above report is true. the lack of any details whatsoever and his previous out of line rambling makes me suspect this member only wants to discredit the establishment, for whatever reason.

i hope me saying that does not result in wolf hound posting a reply that the admin will again have to delete "because it appeared to be a threat made towards other forum members".

(not that i am recommending dr. bj. i have never been there, but will say that dr. bj's posts are in general much more interesting than wolf hound's and he does not seem rude or obnoxius. as far as i can remember from the webpages, there is some fairly attractive staff there too. perhaps wolf hound was offended because he came in expecting to get a bj from the doctor, but the doctor turned him down?) as my post was the starting point of a dr bj debate, i want to set a few things straight, eventhough i know i wil be considered as a newbie on this forum, given my number of reports (i read more than i write, and i know that's a bad thing).

i agree that one shouldn't be expecting perfect 10's at a bj bar, because if they were, they would be working somewhere else. i'm also very ok with going for a 5 or a 6 at a bj bar, cause after all, her face and figure does not matter as much as her skills in that particular area. and i like the concept, cause you can just blow your load in a short time, without further introduction, which i like right before going out (to be more in control during the crazy bkk night to follow) or before going to bed (if i haven't found anyone special and don't want to go through all the steps linked to a sw experience).

as is wrote before, i have been to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s a couple of times, and it was ok.

i expected the dr bj experience to be and upgrade on the concept, and it just wasn't.

my expectations came from the fact that dr bj is very well marketed, with a great website, and a personal engagement of the dr himself on isg. it all makes you think that the guy understands us, and wants to bring the concept to a higher level.

this is where i felt fooled. aside from the dispapointing quality of the girls (about the same one as in [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, if not worse. again, i was there on a friday night a 8pm, with 12-15 girls available) , of the bj itself (very average) , i was dispapointed by the setting of the venue. yes, the lobby is kind of clean and design which is a change, but you have to go trough the 1st level with girls sleeping on the floor to reach the 2nd floor where you get your bj in what i tought was a tiny and run down room with no sound protection whatsoever.

again, dr bj (i know you're reading) , i'm personally dispapointed mainly because of the over promosing marketing around that place. i see that you are planning to open several additional locations all over thailand, and i honestly wish you the best of luck. and i'm sure that the soi 7 experience will help you create the ideal bj experience you are aiming for, and that a lot of people in bkk (and on this website?) are dreaming of.

and let me finish this post by making clear that this is only my personal opinion, and that i think that every bj bar fan should make his own opinion by giving the places available a try.

Member #4643
04-28-12, 18:28
Forest,

It is always difficult to make any recommendations as us guys tend to like different things in a Playmate!

For the sort of relationship that YOU are looking for I would suggest that you post an ad on Craigslist a few weeks before you travel.

You then have the time to make a selection (there will almost certainly be SEVERAL replies) and you can 'get to know' potential companions!

Then, when you get to BKK you can meet your selected girl (OR girls) and take it from there.

Craigslist has been good for me in Thailand and I have met some GREAT playmates. Some who I have been seeing for several years now!

Best of luck and ENJOY (I DO!)

Hotman.This sounds like a reasonable approach. I will try Craigslist.

I will add that you shold not feel reluctant to share contact information, as the girls are the real winners when you do this. Of course I would not blame you if your GFE were the equivalent of what I felt was a hard core pro. Chacun à son goût, as they say. I have shared contacts on many occasions, and although from time to time it clearly did not work out, it usually was good.

PinkPearl
04-28-12, 19:23
Overall, BJ bars will never have beautiful ladies and why would they? A beautiful woman is not going to suck cocks when she could make much more money doing much less (star fish) work for much more money.Also IME most TGs would rather starfish at bareback sex than do a BBBJ. Further, they would prefer to perform a BBBJ over DFK, LFK or any kind of kissing. I confine myself to streetwalkers, but perhaps it's different elsewhere. Are gogo, MP & beer bar workers usually up for BBFS? I'd guess those Rainbow iv girls with an attitude are not.

Samata61
04-28-12, 20:38
Thanks for this. I like to see this kind of insight.

I've never been to La Belle but from reports I know it's on the priciest side of BKK. How much do clients pay for her? 60 to 80K per month doesn't sound like so much for that kind of expensive place. My "girlfriend" works in a pricey place too, she makes the same kind of money but working a lot less. 2-3 times a week so 10 days a month or so. Between what she gets from the shop and the extras at hotels (where she makes more) it doesn't take 20 days to get to those amounts.I am not certain how much she makes per session; It is either 2200 or 3200 net without the house. She is a little girl around 155 cm so maybe she can't take a lot of pounding.

New Imhotep
04-29-12, 04:43
Does anyone know what all those African boys are doing here? One approached me and I just passed him, don't know wt the heck is he after! I see them all around sukm road, I noticed few african gals but boys are like 100s so it is not make since if they are pimps, are they gangs, tourists?

NicFrenchy
04-29-12, 08:14
I popped my head into Livingstones but unfortunately the man himself wasn't there, as I was going to introduce myself. Maybe next time.Yes, I was told the same thing a week ago when I went to see him. Seems he is resting a lot. Hey Giotto, come out of your room a little will you! Hahaha

NicFrenchy
04-29-12, 08:37
i would like to invite you to sample the salon, but first have a look at our ladies from the website.

http://www.bjbarbangkok.com/staff.html

if you decide to try it out please let me know who you are when you come in and i will buy you a beer before you go upstairs.

regards bjinteresting website. always was a big fan of sol and never liked [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). how does that service compare?

NicFrenchy
04-29-12, 08:43
This sounds like a reasonable approach. I will try Craigslist.

I will add that you shold not feel reluctant to share contact information, as the girls are the real winners when you do this. Of course I would not blame you if your GFE were the equivalent of what I felt was a hard core pro. Chacun à son goût, as they say. I have shared contacts on many occasions, and although from time to time it clearly did not work out, it usually was good.You should try "Tagged" as well, I have been very successful with it.

Personally, even if I knew girls that fit what you need, I would never share their contact with you. If we were Friends and knew each other, maybe, but why would anyone share a girls contact with a dude they never met? Or don't know well?

That's my opinion.

Samata61
04-29-12, 09:02
You should try "Tagged" as well, I have been very successful with it.

Personally, even if I knew girls that fit what you need, I would never share their contact with you. If we were Friends and knew each other, maybe, but why would anyone share a girls contact with a dude they never met? Or don't know well?

That's my opinion.I completely agree; Sharing girls contact information with someone you don't know will only back fire. I've gotten few requests, consult with the girls, and they have the same opinion.

Dr BJ
04-29-12, 12:47
interesting website. always was a big fan of sol and never liked [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). how does that service compare?i feel it would be unprofessional for me to comment on a competitors business. i will leave it to the other forum member's to respond.

regards bj

Western787
04-29-12, 12:49
Sky and Western are right. Certain G-Clubs, Maiake for one, have girls on the highest rung of the BKK pussy ladder. In my experience, only a couple of girls in Rainbow 4 and a few girls in the best high end soapies (example La Belle) can match the really pretty G-Club girls in looks. On the social scale, if that is of any importance to you, I think the G-Club girls are higher up (better educated and more financially secure) so they have more to offer personality wise. Shagging performance is independent of all this and depends on the particular girl no matter where you find her. There are great G-Club lovers and not so great ones like everywhere else. The downside of hunting in G-Clubs is price of course and the fact that there are no guarantees. But, if your game is on, you will most likely be able to connect with a G-Club girl and she will give you her phone number. The rest is up to you. This venue is obviously not for everybody.This from 15 months ago but looks like Sherbet, and hopefully some will agree shows some some pretty hot girls, like the tall one in the middle. Yes she is skinny and I can't see her face but there is something very sexy about her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywDQSwXbYTQ&feature=related

Western787
04-29-12, 12:59
Ok I guess what makes her so sexy to me is two things, first she's technically in a general sense a very very good dancer and second her exceptionally interesting and sexy body movements especially her hips show a better range of motion than you typically see anywhere. They say these things are all about the female fertility cues that the male (usually) subconscious mind will pick up on. That must be it.

GentleBoner
04-29-12, 15:31
Ok I guess what makes her so sexy to me is two things, first she's technically in a general sense a very very good dancer and second her exceptionally interesting and sexy body movements especially her hips show a better range of motion than you typically see anywhere. They say these things are all about the female fertility cues that the male (usually) subconscious mind will pick up on. That must be it.


Flailing spaghetti arms and a mixture of crappy club dancing and the Bangkok Shuffle. I've seen better at Insomnia.

NicFrenchy
04-29-12, 16:41
I feel it would be unprofessional for me to comment on a competitors business. I will leave it to the other forum member's to respond.

Regards BJBullshit answer, come on, you can't even comment on your business service levels? What, you think not commenting on other businesses will get you brownie points here?

By what I read, it looks like forum members aren't very fond of the place which is why I needed an honest answer. Now I am not sure I even want to visit the place. I guess I'll stick to SOL then.

Regards, NF

Tony Hoeprano
04-29-12, 20:15
http://youtu.be/kmph5wQ-2XE

Another good one for Maiake g-club.

KenDav
04-29-12, 22:09
Hello all. I am flying into BKK for a quick 1 day trip next month. I always stay in the same hotel, in Silom a few blocks from PatPong but I rarely go to PatPong at all, since I have my usual favorite places. My problem is, this time I'm arriving at my hotel around 2 AM and leaving the next afternoon. My only chance to have some fun would be between 2 and 4 that morning!

Does anyone know any places / services / anything! That might be open that late? I hate to just go and hang around patpong that late, it seems like it could be frustrating and not very satisfying. If only the Eden club were open all night!

Any recommendations appreciated.

Thanks,

Ken

ManonsanBoy
04-29-12, 23:03
What is a white indian?

Western787
04-30-12, 05:41
Flailing spaghetti arms and a mixture of crappy club dancing and the Bangkok Shuffle. I've seen better at Insomnia.Well, as the long as the voice was (reassuringly) high in pitch I would have at least bought her a few rounds of LD's. Bangkok shuffle? You certainly must mean the other girls, because with one its definitely high end coyotee dance style. As for Insomnia, yes you may SEE certain girls, but that's all that's guaranteed, I mean its not like you're going to be in the club socializing with her the better part of an evening G club style.

Western787
04-30-12, 08:21
I am not certain how much she makes per session; It is either 2200 or 3200 net without the house. She is a little girl around 155 cm so maybe she can't take a lot of pounding.So the average La belle girl is only typically doing 7 or 8 customers a week? I guess there must be alot of fishbowl time or hanging as a sideliner then.

Samata61
04-30-12, 09:59
So the average La belle girl is only typically doing 7 or 8 customers a week? I guess there must be alot of fishbowl time or hanging as a sideliner then.I am reporting what I was told and might be incorrect but she did say that she does 1-2 customers per day and she does not go with client afterward. She is young and only been working there for 3 months.

NicFrenchy
04-30-12, 10:15
What is a white indian?Someone From India dressed in a White outfit. I guess

Chill Out
04-30-12, 11:17
Frenchy, why are you such a big fan of SOL? I thought you were a man of means and refined taste? ;)


she did say that she does 1-2 customers per day and she does not go with client afterward.

It's true that there are differences in how many customers different girls do, which of course makes a difference in their income.

From what I've seen it depends on:
-a- How much the girl interacts with customers and invite them to take her. Some girls really turn the charm on, some just wait passively to be picked.
-b- How much the girl is priced.

My girl doesn't go to work so often but she will do 3 customers or more in a few hours when she does. She looks fun to be around (and she is!) and stands out in the line-up compared to most of the others. So she gets a lot more customers when she does go.

Also, she is mid-range in price. Not priced at the bottom or the top. I asked her why she didn't get upgraded as a "super-premium" girl to get more money. Her answer: it's much harder to get lots of customers per night if you are at the top. So she prefers to get a bit less per client but get more clients. That also helps her get more requests for outside work where she can make more cash.

She also confirmed that Asian clients are easier (shorter time, not much feeling) but she likes farangs because it's more fun and "spicy"...

Amazing Thailand.

NicFrenchy
04-30-12, 12:00
Frenchy, why are you such a big fan of SOL? I thought you were a man of means and refined taste? ;)I am, I am! But sometimes, I listen to the little "carnal" voice in me, you know, that little devil with a pitchfork. Haha

Aey Annies
04-30-12, 13:00
Bullshit answer, come on, you can't even comment on your business service levels? What, you think not commenting on other businesses will get you brownie points here?

By what I read, it looks like forum members aren't very fond of the place which is why I needed an honest answer. Now I am not sure I even want to visit the place. I guess I'll stick to SOL then.

Regards, NFI respect a lot of what you say about my business and others, it is all ways honest and strait with no reasing behind it, but please be honest with this, if BJ said.

Go to me because, do not go to there because, what do you think happen next on here? It is far better just to leave it to others on forum to comment about a place. I learned that lesson with one week of posting on another forum, I think I got about 100 nasty posts back about being no professional as I talked about another place. I learned an important lesson about western culture that day.

Also at present like with any still new business, there are things that people like and do not like but for the most it is very positive at BJ's on all forums and just as important in person with the customers face to face.

BJ himself is a westerner and nice to talk to even though he has a strange accent which is hard for me to understand sometimes. Come in talk with him, he will help and make sure you have a great time at BJ's which of course is what we all want to happen including you.

I hope that make sense.

Taken from BJ's site.

Some of the many business class extra's we are offer to the industry:

The patented 'Rotated Salon Booth System'

Dr BJ's Salon Bangkok is the home of the R. S. B. S.

No frozen alcohol infused, dry my manhood to death, whilst freezing it with a towel in a packet service:

Dr BJ's salon Sukhumvit (BJ Bar) is also the home of the Soapy Bubble Clean Sack Service. S. B. C. S. S.

We strive to have a minimum 30 staff in one shift and a 2 rotating shift system, you can be sure of finding the right member of staff for your time with us.

Fully stocked clean bar, well lit bright surroundings, Perfect location. 30 second walking distance of Nana BTS and the same side of the Sukhumvit road to Soi cowboy, which can be walked to within 10 minutes. Our bar area is very clean and bright, in case you wish to spend a little time with one of our staff before heading to the service areas, an outside smoking area, private bar zone, area for viewing staff and much much more. All staff wear designated clothing, to show there level. Our BJ Bar carries 2 levels of staff.

Nurses and Consultants, which are easy to differentiate by the clothing they wear.

All customers as part of the in house price, will receive, standard BJ bar services, along with it taking place within a private area, not a curtained off sofa. This private comes with quality lighting, seating, air con, washing facilities and of course one of our ladies. If you wish to take more than one lady, then pricing of course is x2 for two ladies and x3 for three ladies etc.

For the customer that does not want to be seen walking in the front entrance, we also have a real entrance vie soi 9. Please call us and we will let you in the quite back passage.

Traveler1234
04-30-12, 16:30
I feel it would be unprofessional for me to comment on a competitors business. I will leave it to the other forum member's to respond.

Regards BJNot trying to start a war here. BUT, if you're going to advertise on this thread, then you should be prepared to answer questions. Or move your comments to the classified ad thread [or better yet, Annies thread -- given her comments below].

NicFrenchy
04-30-12, 16:59
i respect a lot of what you say about my business and others, it is all ways honest and strait with no reasing behind it, but please be honest with this, if bj said.hi aey,

thank you for the honest answer.

i did not expect drbj to trash other businesses but just point out why his place was better, that's all.

i also run a business and i never bad mouth my competition but i sure am telling my customers why they should buy from me instead of others.

in the area, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is a hopeless place and you of all people should know the scams the mamasan runs there to keep the girls trapped working there.

wild country (not really a bj place but offered quite a different vibe and bj available at the bar) , afterschool's naughty boy corner is not what it used to be. so there is a gap in the market, you and drbj saw that and i guess that is how the place was created.

good luck with the place.

by the way. how is #3 at annies? i am thinking about trying her.

NicFrenchy
04-30-12, 17:04
BJ himself is a westerner and nice to talk to even though he has a strange accent which is hard for me to understand sometimes. Come in talk with him, he will help and make sure you have a great time at BJ's which of course is what we all want to happen including you.I usually avoid going to places using my ISG name as I don't want to get any special treatment. My reviews are always non Biased and as Honest as possible.

Obviously, having been here a long time, places know me and some even know my ISG name but I try to stay under the Radar.

Chill Out
04-30-12, 18:06
the Scams the Mamasan runs there to keep the girls trapped working there.Really? Can you explain?

Aey Annies
04-30-12, 18:56
By the Way. How is #3 at Annies? I am thinking about trying her.We try to keep the reviews on the website as close as we can to what is said to us in person or what we read on forums. I can tell you that from what I have seen and reading, she is very good fun, a good sign of a lady offering what customers want is they walk out from the room with her and ask to book her for another day or for a take out. This happens a lot, I would like to say as well, she may have many people liking her not for her service but her chest, it is hard for any man to talk to her face, it is funny.

I would put her not in the low end of service 'no way' but not in the top either. If you want big natural perfect shaped lady chest, and good fun lady with nice smile, that enjoys her work, I would recommend her, if you want a lady to make your head fall off with things that only a women that has been working for 7 years with 10 customer a day, this is not her.

Welcome back to Bangkok, I not see you on forum for a long long time, I hope your break from Thailand made you like it more.

Mc Don
04-30-12, 19:16
Has anyone tried the african girls? How much do they charge? Are they after ST only? I have been approached in the past but never bothered with them but I am now thinking about it just to break the monothony.

Wolf Hound
04-30-12, 19:31
Best places visited on my last trip.

Baccara.

Tilac.

Annies.

The Bank.

Rainbow 4.

PinkPearl
04-30-12, 20:41
Has anyone tried the african girls? How much do they charge? Are they after ST only? I have been approached in the past but never bothered with them but I am now thinking about it just to break the monothony.I'd stay clear of any types associated with organized crime or pimping, such as also often found with Russians. Seek out FL independant sex workers, instead.

Samata61
04-30-12, 21:27
Frenchy, why are you such a big fan of SOL? I thought you were a man of means and refined taste? .

It's true that there are differences in how many customers different girls do, which of course makes a difference in their income.

From what I've seen it depends on:

-a- How much the girl interacts with customers and invite them to take her. Some girls really turn the charm on, some just wait passively to be picked.

-be- How much the girl is priced.

My girl doesn't go to work so often but she will do 3 customers or more in a few hours when she does. She looks fun to be around (and she is!) and stands out in the line-up compared to most of the others. So she gets a lot more customers when she does go.

Also, she is mid-range in price. Not priced at the bottom or the top. I asked her why she didn't get upgraded as a "super-premium" girl to get more money. Her answer: it's much harder to get lots of customers per night if you are at the top. So she prefers to get a bit less per client but get more clients. That also helps her get more requests for outside work where she can make more cash.

She also confirmed that Asian clients are easier (shorter time, not much feeling) but she likes farangs because it's more fun and "spicy".

Amazing Thailand.Love this form. No place for error.

I went back and ran the math by my girl and you guys are correct; I guess she was trying to hide how many customers she fucks since she considers herself my girlfriend (go figure)

Anyway, she does 3+customers per day and makes 6000 to 8000 bht per day. She claims I understood her English wrong with 60-80k per month and she meant 6-8K per day.

I don't think I will keep her on the leach too long so any other questions?

AfAsia
04-30-12, 22:50
Has anyone tried the african girls? How much do they charge? Are they after ST only? I have been approached in the past but never bothered with them but I am now thinking about it just to break the monothony.Have had several. Did not part with more than 600b to 1000b ST, all in Bangkok. Attitudes are a mix, overall results been worthwhile. However, in future if I am to play again whilst in Thailand, she is really going to make a significant impression upon me. I find them spoilt for price, way cheaper in Africa. Punters must be paying however, I will leave African mongering to my home trips in future.

Mc Don, check out:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3187-Foreign-Sex-Workers-in-Thailand

AfAsia
04-30-12, 23:12
Welcome back to Bangkok, I not see you on forum for a long long time, I hope your break from Thailand made you like it more.Nah nah, AA! Self imposed exile was fruitful for all. Word is, He being turned away from the Secret Society Of Disillusioned Mongers. Now the virus is back LOL.

Perhaps I will make a turn next month. X looks the choice.

BionicMan
05-01-12, 07:14
Has anyone tried the african girls? How much do they charge? Are they after ST only? I have been approached in the past but never bothered with them but I am now thinking about it just to break the monothony.From what has been written here, not much recommended for lack of service, attitude and general safety. Not generalizing, but I prefer to stay away, although some stunners are visible. Most of them represent the answer to those looking for a big booty.

BionicMan
05-01-12, 07:18
Love this form. No place for error.

Anyway, she does 3+customers per day and makes 6000 to 8000 bht per day. She claims I understood her English wrong with 60-80k per month and she meant 6-8K per day. I don't think I will keep her on the leach too long so any other questions?6-8k per day makes 60-80k a month if she just works 10 days a month, ie 3 days a week.

Chill Out
05-01-12, 07:33
I don't think I will keep her on the leach too long so any other questions?Ask her how she got in the business and why. And how is La Belle as a working environment (are they nice to her, is she getting pressured, etc).

NicFrenchy
05-01-12, 08:40
600-1000 st is what ugly girls thai get. One would think ugly negro would cost more (just as a novelty). But who knows as I've never tried either. LOL.Harold444, you're an ass and everyone knows that, you make useless comments most of the time and everyone knows that, you're maybe right sometimes but this is a little over the top.

I am not ok with you using the word "Negro" in this forum. Not because of the word, I have heard it said many times and all was fine, but I KNOW that in your case it is meant as an insult towards a certain race.

As far as I know, people don't choose their parents, ethnic backgrounds and place of birth. Skin color should'nt matter more than eye color if you ask me.

I hope Jackson reacts to this and sends you back to BKK2nite. Oh no wait, you've been banned over there too.

Tony Hoeprano
05-01-12, 09:04
I did a google search and searched this forum, but came up empty handed. Is there any massage place / red light area, or street action near the On Nut BTS area? Tons of hot girls walking around here, obviously most of them are "good girls", so to speak.

NicFrenchy
05-01-12, 09:32
I did a google search and searched this forum, but came up empty handed. Is there any massage place / red light area, or street action near the On Nut BTS area? Tons of hot girls walking around here, obviously most of them are "good girls", so to speak.I think you answered your own question

Western787
05-01-12, 09:33
What is with the cry of troll when someone posts a negative review of an establishment? I am in Thailand over 4 months of the year through business or pleasure and feel entitled to share my experiences with the board.

I was not impressed with Dr BJ and I just thought I would share my experience. For the keyboard warriors to wet their knickers because someone posts a bit of reality defeats the purpose of having an open forum in the first place!

Best places visited on my last trip.

Baccara.

Tilac.

Annies.

The Bank.

Rainbow 4.

Worst place visited.

Dr BJWhat did you like about The Bank? I understand it to be a smaller G club, but mostly a karoke club geared toward Japanese or other east asians, with apparently american ownership though.

Pointy Stick
05-01-12, 11:28
I had a great time there and am a BJ bar connoisseur. I suspect the girls somehow sense that you're a racist misanthrope and gave the appropriate level of service you deserve.


What is with the cry of troll when someone posts a negative review of an establishment? I am in Thailand over 4 months of the year through business or pleasure and feel entitled to share my experiences with the board.

I was not impressed with Dr BJ and I just thought I would share my experience. For the keyboard warriors to wet their knickers because someone posts a bit of reality defeats the purpose of having an open forum in the first place!

Best places visited on my last trip.

Baccara.

Tilac.

Annies.

The Bank.

Rainbow 4.

Worst place visited.

Dr BJ

Chill Out
05-01-12, 12:02
This forum is always entertaining.

Pointy Stick
05-01-12, 13:32
i should really elaborate.

i've been a frequenter of bliss lounge, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and sol and overall i've had the best service at dr bj's. forprice of an hour of surfing the internet at work i can get a deep throat bbbj, rim job and give one of the ladies there a good face-fucking for at least 30 minutes. i can't get a street walker to spit on me for the same cash where i'm living now.

i don't mind reviews which are negative and feel they serve a valuable service to this esteemed community by warning us but they should actually be based on 'reality' and be backed up by an account of why the experience was bad in the first place. wolf hound's reports clearly do not fit into this category.

indeed they are so lacking in both merit and detail that i suspect that he has not even visited the establishment in question. even if he did his 'bit of reality' is at such odds to my three sojourns that i would venture to say there is something about him personally that the girls he took felt strongly enough about him to give him shite service.

for someone who has two of his posts edited for threatening other forum members he should have his membership terminated and ip address registered to prevent further posting. the world already has enough fuckwits that we have to endure so why enable another one.

Tony Hoeprano
05-01-12, 14:51
What did you like about The Bank? I understand it to be a smaller G club, but mostly a karoke club geared toward Japanese or other east asians, with apparently american ownership though.I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, the Bank no longer exists. It's now called The Pimp and at a different location.

Syzygies
05-01-12, 14:58
I did a google search and searched this forum, but came up empty handed. Is there any massage place / red light area, or street action near the On Nut BTS area? Tons of hot girls walking around here, obviously most of them are "good girls", so to speak.Many of the bargirls and MP girls live in On Nut district so you could make private arrangements.

I don't believe there are any Farang oriented places.

BTS train from On Nut to Thonglor is how many stops? I think its only 3 so what is your problem? You would waste merely 15 mins to get there for your booking in a Thonglor MP. Could even catch a motorcycle if in a severe hurry.

I live part time not that far from On Nut, but I don't see any reason to try to monger right there.

Western787
05-01-12, 15:06
I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, the Bank no longer exists. It's now called The Pimp and at a different location.You're right because I believe they were looking to create a larger club to compete against the other G clubs, and yes that would be The Pimp. The american owner has said he's.

The only Farang G club owner in town, or maybe even the only non Thai G club owner in town.

Syzygies
05-01-12, 15:13
What is with the cry of troll when someone posts a negative review of an establishment? I am in Thailand over 4 months of the year through business or pleasure and feel entitled to share my experiences with the board.Overly negative reports are not well received in general. Very fair reports are better received. Stick to reporting mainly your positive experiences is a good idea.

If you don't like a place, fine, you say you don't like it, and give reasons, just like I have said previously that I didn't like Eden due to over-acting by the girls, and lack of any chance to spend time choosing the right girl, and lack of stunners, among others things. However I can appreciate that others may love the place. So there is not point going too far with the negativity.

As I have only ever been with girls at Eden once, and they were okay for me, I can't really claim to be an expert on the place.

Just trying to give good advice to all posters. There is a "Places to Avoid" thread, if you really want to say how a place "sucks big-time".

IMHO, the forum should be mainly for the purpose of introducing places and girls that could give a great time for the right type of customer. The style should be described so those who look for something else will know its not right for them.

Western787
05-01-12, 15:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUDOguaj934

This is The Pimp here and the girls are hot, but I know he brings in the Penthouse models now and then, so it may not be representative.

Tony Hoeprano
05-01-12, 20:51
You're right because I believe they were looking to create a larger club to compete against the other G clubs, and yes that would be The Pimp. The american owner has said he's.

The only Farang G club owner in town, or maybe even the only non Thai G club owner in town.Yeah, the falang owner. The dude who kinda looks like Jared from Subway Sandwiches?

PinkPearl
05-01-12, 21:47
Something smells when the majority of review are bad and THen you comme on with a glowing one. You may be the exception to the rule!The sample size of reviews here seems quite small, so not enough to be of significance in making a judgement one way or the other, taking into consideration the fact that customers have different tastes, moods, standards, criteria for evaluating, and with sex providers YMMV from one session to the next, even with the same client, depending on her feelings of the moment, 'time of the month', etc. So it's hard to make valid claims about a business as a whole from one session with one lady or even a handful of reports of the same.

Perhaps if one read all the reviews at the various forums Aey and Dr BJ claim to post on, and other sites that comment on the business, like 100 in all, a more objective evaluation could be attained. From the few here it could be that this is just a tough and negative crowd who like to complain. For all we know, the vast majority of BJ customers may very well be happy campers.

NicFrenchy
05-02-12, 02:59
I don't mean to Hijack but I have posted this in the Hotels Section also: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1029-Bangkok-Hotels&p=1275638&viewfull=1#post1275638

Ok, so a friend of mine asked me if I knew of some hotels that would accept him Staying there for 5 or 6 hours or Overnight without being too "Demanding" in terms of I'd. (No passport, no Credit card.)

I know of Hotel999 in Ekkamai but it's a dump. This guy is looking for a hotel in the 1500 2000 Range.

I think this would be Very interesting to compile a list of "Discreet Hotels" and some Forum members can also benefit?

Kaintuck
05-02-12, 03:50
Nic,

Interesting hotel name. Reminds me that the late Sino-Shan drug lord Khun Sa's brand of heroin was 999.

Another hotel, a seedy short-time joint with no telephone near the Phya Thai skytrain station (some years ago) was the 99. I don't recommend it.

NicFrenchy
05-02-12, 04:16
Nic,

Interesting hotel name. Reminds me that the late Sino-Shan drug lord Khun Sa's brand of heroin was 999.

Another hotel, a seedy short-time joint with no telephone near the Phya Thai skytrain station (some years ago) was the 99. I don't recommend it.This is the place. They rent rooms at like 300 thb for a couple hours. .

Tong Kao Hotel 999. BTS Ekamai.

70/1 Soi 63, Sukhumvit Road, Watthana, Bangkok. 10110.

Tel:023 911 783

GentleBoner
05-02-12, 05:30
I don't mean to Hijack but I have posted this in the Hotels Section also:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1029-Bangkok-Hotels&p=1275638&viewfull=1#post1275638

Ok, so a friend of mine asked me if I knew of some hotels that would accept him Staying there for 5 or 6 hours or Overnight without being too "Demanding" in terms of I'd. (No passport, no Credit card.)

I know of Hotel999 in Ekkamai but it's a dump. This guy is looking for a hotel in the 1500 2000 Range.

I think this would be Very interesting to compile a list of "Discreet Hotels" and some Forum members can also benefit?

Decent short time hotels are surprisingly hard to find.

I only know of a few really dumpy ones near nightlife areas (Nana, Saphan Kwai).

Most other places want to charge the overnight rate and want a passport.

Would like to hear of some more.

Latin
05-02-12, 08:13
Decided to go discovering new territories unspoiled and dangerous, yes because Thai girls from BKK, I mean the regular one are so cute, I get easily in love.

Route66 it's a disco full of students and a few young foreigner, probably living there. 100% professionals free.

Girls inside are from 18 to 30 most on the 20-25 range the level is very high, cute, very elegant and sexy dressed with mini or shorts, long perfect white skinned legs, heels, this is the second place in BKK where I could get lost if I was younger (Siam daytime).

If you have long time to invest and looking for a regular girlfriend this is the place to go, also the next disco close to it is very interesting, you could check both in the same night.

Went out while closing, probably at about 3, very sad. Walking in the dark road like an old cat. When I saw another disco still open, no money to enter so let's give it a try!

I realized that it's a disco for gay men, no tv or lb, real young gay men, some of the approached me since I was the only not Asian, but it's not my taste, I was more sad than before, when suddenly walking I saw a cute girl smiling and saying hi, I sit with her and with her friends, all of the gay, all very friendly, she offered me a drink, and it was the same always, I could never pay, she was so kind, friendly and cute, the night changed for the old cat!

She paid for everybody! All night!

I started to touch and kiss her and she was happy English was poor but we could talk a little, she told she was a dancer *at st. Moritz club, do you know it guys? Never heard.

I invited her to spend the night with me but she said vary politely now, so after some more kissing drinking and dancing left for my hotel, it was getting sunrise, but I*was happy I met her.

Werqweq
05-02-12, 08:32
Harold444, you're an ass and everyone knows that, you make useless comments most of the time and everyone knows that, you're maybe right sometimes but this is a little over the top.

I am not ok with you using the word "Negro" in this forum. Not because of the word, I have heard it said many times and all was fine, but I KNOW that in your case it is meant as an insult towards a certain race.

As far as I know, people don't choose their parents, ethnic backgrounds and place of birth. Skin color should'nt matter more than eye color if you ask me.

I hope Jackson reacts to this and sends you back to BKK2nite. Oh no wait, you've been banned over there too.Amen to this.

BionicMan
05-02-12, 10:18
My eyes never deceive me, at least not from 5 feet away, as oppopsed to fushbowls where a girl at distance girls looks like a 9 and up close a 6. LOL.

I've never seen a colored girl who is a stunner, not even close!Matter of tastes. Attitude is something, stunning body is something else.

And there are a few in Sukhumvit that have a great slim body with proper curves. Even the thai girl I was with was admiring them. (and she is defientely not a bi)

There are also quite some strong bodies who are not my taste, but certainly of others as they are on hte market.

Each one his own

Crazy4Thai
05-02-12, 11:42
Many of the bargirls and MP girls live in On Nut district so you could make private arrangements.

I don't believe there are any Farang oriented places.

BTS train from On Nut to Thonglor is how many stops? I think its only 3 SO WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM? (my caps) You would waste merely 15 mins to get there for your booking in a Thonglor MP. Could even catch a motorcycle if in a severe hurry.

I live part time not that far from On Nut, but I don't see any reason to try to monger right there.LOL. His PROBLEM is that he WANTS them! It's not like there is some sort of boundary to where we chase pussy!

GO Tony GO!

Crazy4Thai
05-02-12, 11:51
What is with the cry of troll when someone posts a negative review of an establishment? I am in Thailand over 4 months of the year through business or pleasure and feel entitled to share my experiences with the board.

I was not impressed with Dr BJ and I just thought I would share my experience. For the keyboard warriors to wet their knickers because someone posts a bit of reality defeats the purpose of having an open forum in the first place!

SnipFWIW. I thought it was a valid report. Something that seems to be not as common as the sniping activity these days. Just keep doing what you're doing and let the whiners whine. God knows they will no matter what you write.

And for those paying attention, not the first time that biz had less than rave reviews.

Tony Hoeprano
05-02-12, 11:58
LOL. His PROBLEM is that he WANTS them! It's not like there is some sort of boundary to where we chase pussy!

GO Tony GO!Hmmm. I just thought there were places off the beaten track around the On Nut area, its good to find new places. I'm happy I Inspire you pal!

Tony Hoeprano
05-02-12, 12:24
Decided to go discovering new territories unspoiled and dangerous, yes because Thai girls from BKK, I mean the regular one are so cute, I get easily in love.

Route66 it's a disco full of students and a few young foreigner, probably living there. 100% professionals free.

Girls inside are from 18 to 30 most on the 20-25 range the level is very high, cute, very elegant and sexy dressed with mini or shorts, long perfect white skinned legs, heels, this is the second place in BKK where I could get lost if I was younger (Siam daytime).

If you have long time to invest and looking for a regular girlfriend this is the place to go, also the next disco close to it is very interesting, you could check both in the same night.

Went out while closing, probably at about 3, very sad. Walking in the dark road like an old cat. When I saw another disco still open, no money to enter so let's give it a try!

I realized that it's a disco for gay men, no tv or lb, real young gay men, some of the approached me since I was the only not Asian, but it's not my taste, I was more sad than before, when suddenly walking I saw a cute girl smiling and saying hi, I sit with her and with her friends, all of the gay, all very friendly, she offered me a drink, and it was the same always, I could never pay, she was so kind, friendly and cute, the night changed for the old cat!

She paid for everybody! All night!

I started to touch and kiss her and she was happy English was poor but we could talk a little, she told she was a dancer *at st. Moritz club, do you know it guys? Never heard.

I invited her to spend the night with me but she said vary politely now, so after some more kissing drinking and dancing left for my hotel, it was getting sunrise, but I*was happy I met her.No reason to be sad to walk away empty handed from RCA / Route 66. It's not the easiest venue to pull girls from. Seems like you salvaged your night with decent fun though. Did you get the girl's number? FWIW, St Moritz is a G-club near Suk 13. Maybe its on 11 I'm not sure.

Fon Tok
05-02-12, 14:29
St Moritz is a G-club near Suk 13. Maybe its on 11 I'm not sure.St Moritz is on Suk Soi 11. Across from Le Fenix Hotel. Not for "cheap charlies!"

Samata61
05-02-12, 16:49
Ask her how she got in the business and why. And how is La Belle as a working environment (are they nice to her, is she getting pressured, etc).She had worked as a receptionist at Emanuel and saw how much the girls are making so she moved to La Belle as a WG to make more money and help her family. She said the environment is nice and not much pressure.

Chill Out
05-02-12, 17:04
She said the environment is nice and not much pressure.That's what my girl says too and I've seen proof of it. She only goes to work when she wants too, takes weeks off whenever she feels like it.

It looks like the go-gos are stricter than the massage parlors.

Western787
05-02-12, 18:51
St Moritz is on Suk Soi 11. Across from Le Fenix Hotel. Not for "cheap charlies!"Here is a rare glimpse of the financial inner workings of G clubs, as described by owner "Peter" in regard to his former The Bank Club operation several years back, as someone mentions supposedly looks like the Subway ad guy, LOL.

http://bangkok.baronbonk.com/Bank_g_club_with_plenty_of_gogo.shtml

NicFrenchy
05-03-12, 00:56
Here is a rare glimpse of the financial inner workings of G clubs, as described by owner "Peter" in regard to his former The Bank Club operation several years back, as someone mentions supposedly looks like the Subway ad guy, LOL.

http://bangkok.baronbonk.com/Bank_g_club_with_plenty_of_gogo.shtmlThis guy is smart, he went for Asians as his main Clientele, not dodgy-ass Complaining Farangs. Thais with money can easily spend 30 40k on themselves and Friends (showing-off the wealth) when in the company of Booze and Pussy.

Great Business Model. Not my scene though.

Tony Hoeprano
05-03-12, 06:15
I think part of the allure of thai hookers is that they WANT to be hookers (not all but enuff of them to make a difference). God bless them.There is some truth to this. Just walk into Tesco Lotus and you'll see all the long, expressionless faces working the cash registers: no greetings, no goodbyes, no nuttin! The other day I purchased a donut from their bakery, and she asked how much, I said 10 baht, she had someone else go run a price check, and it took about 10 minutes to get the price for a 10 baht donut. In waiting, I commented to the gal that the other worker must have eaten the donut lol.. You can tell they hate working there.

At least in p4p venues, I'm always approached by a smiling and friendly face. Most of the time anyways.

Fon Tok
05-03-12, 07:37
(snip) At least in p4p venues, I'm always approached by a smiling and friendly face. Most of the time anyways.Hah, that's because they think they might get your "big" money.

I know a lot of Thai P4P women, and I've never heard one tell me they "like" their work.

They all like money, plain and simple. A lot of them like free drinks as they are often alcoholics. A few of them like sex.

Fewer actually "like" foreigners beyond their wallets. Most of the ones that do like foreigners have their eyes on the "long game" (as a friend of mine says).

In terms of general attitudes in stores and out in public, I think the Bangkok "hot season" starts to wear "normal" Thai people down. I see this in people's faces, especially after Songkran. They get to party and have fun for a week, then it's back to the same old slog. Come to think of it, I know of very few places in the world where people working in supermarkets smile happily.

The rains, and cooler weather, generally don't start until late May. Then people will complain about the rain!

Syzygies
05-03-12, 09:57
Fewer actually "like" foreigners beyond their wallets. Most of the ones that do like foreigners have their eyes on the "long game" (as a friend of mine says).Are you trying to tell me that nearly all Thais with a Farang husband and mixed kids are just after the money? Sure it happens, but aren't you maybe guilty of exaggerating the generalisation. I have met a substantial number of Thai women who claim to well and trully done with Thai men forever. Are they all lying? Maybe they will all end up as lesbians or nuns.

Maybe all women are just after money. What else would they want a guy for?

Goatscrot
05-03-12, 10:02
This guy is smart, he went for Asians as his main Clientele, not dodgy-ass Complaining Farangs. Thais with money can easily spend 30 40k on themselves and Friends (showing-off the wealth) when in the company of Booze and Pussy.

Great Business Model. Not my scene though.Not my scene either, but I concur, he is very smart. Regular PT Barnum."There is a sucker born every minute." This guy has identified them and is making a mint!

Syzygies
05-03-12, 10:07
That's what my girl says too and I've seen proof of it. She only goes to work when she wants too, takes weeks off whenever she feels like it.

It looks like the go-gos are stricter than the massage parlors.Yes the rules in some gogos and MPs are very strict, otherwise would be totally out of control. In the upper class soapies, girls have more freedom and often no pimps. Gogos do have free-lancer girl though who get no salary, and only turn up to work when they feel like it, for example when when the generous guys are around, or even when they are horny and know a customer is available who will service them skillfully ;)

Western787
05-03-12, 10:46
Not my scene either, but I concur, he is very smart. Regular PT Barnum."There is a sucker born every minute." This guy has identified them and is making a mint!Despite the high prices, I think the margins are thinner than you might believe, and part of the problem is constantly having top girls skimmed off to become mistresses for wealthy clients. Interesting what he says about a visiting Penthouse model turning down 10k but accepting a 20k take out offer. There are actually two different interviews so I will now add the second one also.

http://absolutelybangkok.com/the-bank-nightclub-unplugged/

Chill Out
05-03-12, 11:01
Thanks for the interviews Western, nice reading.

Sky Ryder
05-03-12, 11:12
Not my scene either, but I concur, he is very smart. Regular PT Barnum."There is a sucker born every minute." This guy has identified them and is making a mint!Well, I am pretty sure the guys that go there aren't being "suckered" at all. I suspect they all know the "rules of engagement". Just because it doesn't register on your "fun meter" doesn't make it less so for those that enjoy that type of fun.

I would counter with,"One man's trash is another man's treasure".

Pekkakoo
05-03-12, 12:38
Went to Suzie Wong last night and barfined a 20 year old (600 bf). Agreed on 1500 thb short time. Came back at the hotel at around 0. 30 am. Had sex 2 times or actually 3, because the 1st time I could not finish after having many beers already but then sobered up a little. After that she fell asleep and left at noon the next day.

Drinks at SW cost 150, which is a bit on the high side IMO. At Nana plaza I drinked 90 baht beers, not bad. Mercury had no good quality at 10-11 pm (too late already?) and Spankys had a few good ones but I did not want to call it a night yet. Overall NEP was disapponting experience (maybe did not find the right bars). I checked Rainbow 4 but I don't generally like these big bikini bar full of people, I like smaller with better atmosphere and more room and also prefer a lot totally nude dance and show (I want to see pussy, don't we all?) and better to see the whole package before deciding.

Any better advice on bars and girls beyond Nana and Cowboy? At NEP Went to only those mentioned bars. Cowboy went to Suzie, Shebas and no good quality in the least mentioned (ant not nude).

Heading to Pattaya on Saturday for a week, pm if anyone there and maybe could see for a beer.

NicFrenchy
05-03-12, 13:27
Maybe all women are just after money. What else would they want a guy for?I agreeeeeeeeeeee

BionicMan
05-03-12, 13:49
The rains, and cooler weather, generally don't start until late May. Then people will complain about the rain!We were missing your pictures, FonTok. Few weeks ago I was in BKK and spent sometime at Paragon and seeing all those high heel and miniskirt girls (absolutely girls next doors, not p4p as we know) walking around reminded me of your great photography. Whilst you provide great shots and views, I do not think you are sweating much in the hunt. The targets are massive!

Fun Filled
05-03-12, 14:54
Bangkok is full of surprises. I am a club guy and love to do clubbing on weekend and my favorite places are Q bar and Mixx. I have learn few things. If you dressed good and good to girls its easy to get laid for free. Thai girls like guys who are dressed for the occasion and who treat them good.

Now here is the surprise part. As usual this weekend I was at Q bar drinking and enjoy the atmosphere. I was not in a mood to pick some 1 because I want to move to MIXX after 3 when Q bar closes. At 3 when bar closes I was coming out suddenly one good looking girl grabbed my hand from behind and told me that I am going with her. I questioned her back why should I go with her? She start laughing and told that she is not a working girl and she is rich that why I should go with her. While we were talking we walked out if the bar. Just outside the gate of the Qbar a black SUV was standing she just opened the door and told me to sit. I was bit surprised and scared also but thought of giving it a try. She drove me to her house. Yes she live in a beautiful house not condo. Once in her house you know what happen. I was there till 1 in after noon had a great fun. No money, no language problem, no love affair. Its pure fun and adventure

Later I come to know she is real estate agent and her family is very rich. One thing is for sure Bangkok is full of surprises.

Fon Tok
05-03-12, 15:51
Are you trying to tell me that nearly all Thais with a Farang husband and mixed kids are just after the money? Sure it happens, but aren't you maybe guilty of exaggerating the generalisation. I have met a substantial number of Thai women who claim to well and trully done with Thai men forever. Are they all lying? Maybe they will all end up as lesbians or nuns. Maybe all women are just after money. What else would they want a guy for?Syzygies, regarding your questions:

My previous comment (an opinion) was specifically for seasoned P4P women and, no, I don't think it's an exaggeration. Of course, "new" girls are less jaded with meeting foreign men and subsequent personal interaction.

Not all Thai women who marry farang men come from the P4P world. IMO, "good" Thai women make much better partners and wives than P4P Thai women. I've been in relationships with both "good" and "bad" Thai women, and the good ones were much less apt to lie, cheat and steal.

In terms of Thai women disliking Thai men, many Thai women don't even like having boy babies! They much prefer to give birth to girls. And, there are a lot more "tom & dee" couples than most people realize.

If you understand Thai culture, the ability of a man to "take care" of a women (i .e., money) is one of the primary concerns of a Thai woman (and her family) considering marriage, no matter what her life experience is. Even the few farang guys that I know who have "hiso" partners or wives, pay up!

Money may buy "love," but love doesn't buy gold!

Fon Tok
05-03-12, 16:12
We were missing your pictures, FonTok. Few weeks ago I was in BKK and spent sometime at Paragon and seeing all those high heel and miniskirt girls (absolutely girls next doors, not p4p as we know) walking around reminded me of your great photography. Whilst you provide great shots and views, I do not think you are sweating much in the hunt. The targets are massive!Good photography is much more dependent on light than the number of "targets." This time of year is tricky as the light is very "hard," either too bright, or lots of shadows.

The Siam Paragon plaza is especially tricky as the surface and buildings reflect a lot of light. Photos can easily get "washed out." The best time is weekends between about 5:15 & 6pm. I was there this past Saturday and did get a lot of good shots (but only one "away" shot).

Syzygies
05-03-12, 16:13
My previous comment was specifically for P4P women and I don't think it's an exaggeration.
Fine for very seasoned P4P girls, I tend to agree. Didn't notice you were that specific originally.

Not all Thai women who marry farang men come from the P4P world."Good" Thai women make much better partners and wives than P4P Thai women.Yes, not all. However I think the percentage of Farang Thai marriages involving P4P girls will be quite high, especially with large age gaps, present.

When I look at the Farangs with Thai wives overseas, a fair percentage of these girls look like probable ex-P4P possibilities.

Some of these girls are real shockers! I know that some ex-P4P girls are capable of having good character though, specially if they were only ever in it for a short time. So I judge only on how the girls behave, rather than their possible history.

Not all "Good" Thai girls make good wives, but certainly some do. I have met the full spectrum of characters in the non-P4P arena from really nice girls to somewhat Psycho types.

Guys into P4P, like us, may not make the best husbands either.

One really good Thai girl I know very well, but not so hot sexually, has finished with 3 husbands / BFs, one Thai and two Farang, and had same problem with all of the husbands, in that they played up. Yes I was one of them, but remain close friends with the girl. Was only the sex part where we weren't compatible.

Mr Enternational
05-03-12, 22:02
Are you trying to tell me that nearly all Thais with a Farang husband and mixed kids are just after the money? Sure it happens, but aren't you maybe guilty of exaggerating the generalisation. I have met a substantial number of Thai women who claim to well and trully done with Thai men forever. Are they all lying?I doubt if all the girls are lying. Maybe it's the foreign guys who are lying. From reading these treads I see that many guys complain about the women where they are from and have written them off as well (myself included).
And, there are a lot more "tom & dee" couples than most people realize.In my building alone I have lost count of these types of couples. It is so far gone that every time I see a woman alone I figure she either lives with another girl there or is going to see one.

Werqweq
05-04-12, 05:59
Bangkok is full of surprises. I am a club guy and love to do clubbing on weekend and my favorite places are Q bar and Mixx. I have learn few things. If you dressed good and good to girls its easy to get laid for free. Thai girls like guys who are dressed for the occasion and who treat them good.

Now here is the surprise part. As usual this weekend I was at Q bar drinking and enjoy the atmosphere. I was not in a mood to pick some 1 because I want to move to MIXX after 3 when Q bar closes. At 3 when bar closes I was coming out suddenly one good looking girl grabbed my hand from behind and told me that I am going with her. I questioned her back why should I go with her? She start laughing and told that she is not a working girl and she is rich that why I should go with her. While we were talking we walked out if the bar. Just outside the gate of the Qbar a black SUV was standing she just opened the door and told me to sit. I was bit surprised and scared also but thought of giving it a try. She drove me to her house. Yes she live in a beautiful house not condo. Once in her house you know what happen. I was there till 1 in after noon had a great fun. No money, no language problem, no love affair. Its pure fun and adventure

Later I come to know she is real estate agent and her family is very rich. One thing is for sure Bangkok is full of surprises.Indeed. Ignore the comment from the troll who does not believe your report. I suspect most do.

Anyone who looks reasonably respectable and goes out will probably have had a few experiences similar to you.

E. G, last weekend I went to the local after hours disco (I'm not in Bangkok, so there are not so many of them here) , had a bit of fun by myself for an hour or so. Finding a girl that will go with you for free here is mostly a waste of time since the girls here are 99% working women (down to perhaps 95% on the weekends) , but I still enjoy to spend an hour or two here occasionally.

Anyway, last weekend as I was about to leave, I noticed a girl sitting by herself next the wall. We locked eyes for a few seconds, and I see her reaction is neither positive nor negative. Three second rule applies and I sit down on a chair next to her, hi, blalbla. Half an hour later, after telling her I don't pay for services rendered, I walk out with what later (we've meet a couple of times since) turned out to be a 19yo uni student with (relatively) great English, and also the only women below 25 in the place, not to mention the prettiest.

Strangely enough she swallowed the first time (perhaps because she was quite drunk?) , but not the third time. Will see if there will be a fourth time.

As you say, if you dress relatively good (in the above after hours club, it means being one of the few guys with pants on and without an enormous gut) and are used to picking up women in the west (I. E, be charming) , you can have a lot of success here. Of course, the two times before that I went to the same club, I went home alone. Sometimes you're at the right place at the right time.

Tony Hoeprano
05-04-12, 07:06
You falling back on old habbits. Frontals man!Here's some frontals of some hot gals during songkran.

PinkPearl
05-04-12, 08:32
Indeed. Ignore the comment from the troll who does not believe your report. I suspect most do.

Anyone who looks reasonably respectable and goes out will probably have had a few experiences similar to you.The report is entirely plausible. Similar to going to the NPL & picking up the cutest little SYT you'll ever see, wearing a school girl uniform, for 1000 ST, which is what you might pay for expenses on an evening out to a club, gogos or bars.

Tony Hoeprano
05-04-12, 08:43
One more. Somewhere near Pantip plaza.

Fon Tok
05-04-12, 10:44
You falling back on old habbits. Frontals man!Sorry, Harold.

From me, only anonymous Bangkok "street" rear views for ISG (with an occasional rare exception).

You are welcome to post your TH photos anytime, though. ;)

Nick Depalma
05-04-12, 22:09
ok guys; tentative plans are set after researching the board. trying to cover all the bases for upcoming trip mid-may:

bj bar at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900).

gogo at baccara.

2 girl experience at eden.

mid-level soapy at mango.

upscale experience at copacabana.

dance club at qbar.

throw in some authentic kickboxing at lumpini and street food, and i hope we've got a well-rounded trip. anything that i might have mis-researched, or is missing?

thank you brothers.

Somewhere15
05-04-12, 22:19
Bangkok is full of surprises. I am a club guy and love to do clubbing on weekend and my favorite places are Q bar and Mixx. I have learn few things. If you dressed good and good to girls its easy to get laid for free. Thai girls like guys who are dressed for the occasion and who treat them good.

Now here is the surprise part. As usual this weekend I was at Q bar drinking and enjoy the atmosphere. I was not in a mood to pick some 1 because I want to move to MIXX after 3 when Q bar closes. At 3 when bar closes I was coming out suddenly one good looking girl grabbed my hand from behind and told me that I am going with her. I questioned her back why should I go with her? She start laughing and told that she is not a working girl and she is rich that why I should go with her. While we were talking we walked out if the bar. Just outside the gate of the Qbar a black SUV was standing she just opened the door and told me to sit. I was bit surprised and scared also but thought of giving it a try. She drove me to her house. Yes she live in a beautiful house not condo. Once in her house you know what happen. I was there till 1 in after noon had a great fun. No money, no language problem, no love affair. Its pure fun and adventure

Later I come to know she is real estate agent and her family is very rich. One thing is for sure Bangkok is full of surprises.Good for you! Lucky you.

Can I ask your age and the ladies ages?

In my previous experience, yes this also happens to me, but all the times girls wanted to go to my place / apartment.

I always found that the day after I had to compensate the girl (not by paying her money but with gift while visiting a shopping mall).

My age is 50+ and the girls where around 30/35.

Sxxxx
05-04-12, 22:43
Sorry, Harold.

From me, only anonymous Bangkok "street" rear views for ISG (with an occasional rare exception).

You are welcome to post your TH photos anytime, though. .I suggest its got nothing to do with being anonymous on ISG, I suggest its all about the fact, you are taking the pics without permission or knowledge of the girls. Bit weird or creepy when its just about all we get, time and again. I try to imagine you doing it all the time, end result, weird, LOL. Taken without permission or knowledge thats the reason. Where's my pics? Yeh, prefer 'anonymous' than posting that stuff, LOL. Main thing is you like it, but not me. Doesn't upset me, just weird!

Latin
05-05-12, 03:46
No reason to be sad to walk away empty handed from RCA / Route 66. It's not the easiest venue to pull girls from. Seems like you salvaged your night with decent fun though. Did you get the girl's number? FWIW, St Moritz is a G-club near Suk 13. Maybe its on 11 I'm not sure.Yes I have her number and called her but her English is not so good so it's rather difficult.

What is a g-club?

Amjeck
05-05-12, 03:53
Bangkok is full of surprises. I am a club guy and love to do clubbing on weekend and my favorite places are Q bar and Mixx. I have learn few things. If you dressed good and good to girls its easy to get laid for free.I'm guessing you go for older women?

BionicMan
05-05-12, 03:55
What is a g-club?Gentlemen club

Werqweq
05-05-12, 04:11
Yes I have her number and called her but her English is not so good so it's rather difficult.Try sms-ing her instead of calling. Many of the somewhat educated women will understand written English considerably better than oral, so I often find it easier to arrange a meeting through a couple of sms' rather than through speaking. If you've ever spoken to some of the Thai-born English teachers here, it will be easy for you to understand why that might be the case.

Bowerboy
05-05-12, 08:35
If I were a thai babe with lots of $s I surely wouldn't go trolling for strangers. ESPECIALLY WHITE MEAT! Just makes no cents.

Sorry, I just don't believe this fella!Totally agree. Not sure of the motivation behind the story but after nearly 9 years living here I can guarantee this is not true.

GUARANTEE. No matter how good looking, no matter how suave. This is completely counter to everything a Thai girl like you describe would do.

Absolutely this story is fabricated.

Bowerboy
05-05-12, 08:40
Bangkok is full of surprises. I am a club guy and love to do clubbing on weekend and my favorite places are Q bar and Mixx. I have learn few things. If you dressed good and good to girls its easy to get laid for free. Thai girls like guys who are dressed for the occasion and who treat them good.

Now here is the surprise part. As usual this weekend I was at Q bar drinking and enjoy the atmosphere. I was not in a mood to pick some 1 because I want to move to MIXX after 3 when Q bar closes. At 3 when bar closes I was coming out suddenly one good looking girl grabbed my hand from behind and told me that I am going with her. I questioned her back why should I go with her? She start laughing and told that she is not a working girl and she is rich that why I should go with her. While we were talking we walked out if the bar. Just outside the gate of the Qbar a black SUV was standing she just opened the door and told me to sit. I was bit surprised and scared also but thought of giving it a try. She drove me to her house. Yes she live in a beautiful house not condo. Once in her house you know what happen. I was there till 1 in after noon had a great fun. No money, no language problem, no love affair. Its pure fun and adventure

Later I come to know she is real estate agent and her family is very rich. One thing is for sure Bangkok is full of surprises.A wealthy Thai woman would NEVER take a stranger back to her home. Thais are incredibly conservative (or least need to give that outward perception) especially the wealthy ones.

The likelihood of such a woman who doesn't speak good English being at Q Bar is also extremely remote.

Not sure of the motivation for the story but maybe better saved for "readers wives".

Horny Landoora
05-05-12, 09:07
A wealthy Thai woman would NEVER take a stranger back to her home. Thais are incredibly conservative (or least need to give that outward perception) especially the wealthy ones.

The likelihood of such a woman who doesn't speak good English being at Q Bar is also extremely remote.

Not sure of the motivation for the story but maybe better saved for "readers wives".I would also rather have not gone with the girl in her car! Knowing Thailand, I prefer to have my own set of rules. It is a risky scenario when a girl drags you so late at night and pulls you away to some place with people waiting for you to show up to be mugged or god knows what! Probably he was lucky and the rich girl fell for him for reasons best known to her. But personally being in his place I would have taken a CAB and asked her follow to my place for the real deal!

Tony Hoeprano
05-05-12, 09:20
I don't know, a Thai girl told me a friend of hers, a Falang, picked up a MILF type at a high end club, apparently she was hiso and had a senior position as a banker. Anyways, this dude shagged her so good that in the morning, she gave him a 20,000 baht tip. I told her baloney, but she believed the story LOL

maybe the chick in the SUV wasn't wealthy but upper/middle class type with a rich ex BF or husband.. I don't think Thai elite like Yingluck would cruise to the Qbar and pick up a random sex tourist lol

Latin
05-05-12, 09:53
Try sms-ing her instead of calling. Many of the somewhat educated women will understand written English considerably better than oral, so I often find it easier to arrange a meeting through a couple of sms' rather than through speaking. If you've ever spoken to some of the Thai-born English teachers here, it will be easy for you to understand why that might be the case.Good idea thanks for the tip!

I'll try next days, I'm really curious to see her in the day, maybe I overrated her, there's no reason for such a cute and rich girl to flirt with me in a disco, I'm not young and I didn't show up with a Ferrari.

Chill Out
05-05-12, 10:10
GUARANTEE. No matter how good looking, no matter how suave. This is completely counter to everything a Thai girl like you describe would do.

Absolutely this story is fabricated.Come on. Like there isn't some hiso girls with some money out there who like to have fun? There are.

Bowerboy
05-05-12, 11:10
I would also rather have not gone with the girl in her car! Knowing Thailand, I prefer to have my own set of rules. It is a risky scenario when a girl drags you so late at night and pulls you away to some place with people waiting for you to show up to be mugged or god knows what! Probably he was lucky and the rich girl fell for him for reasons best known to her. But personally being in his place I would have taken a CAB and asked her follow to my place for the real deal!I wouldn't spend too much time worrying about it because it ain't going to happen.

Bowerboy
05-05-12, 11:11
Come on. Like there isn't some hiso girls with some money out there who like to have fun? There are.Yes absolutely. You are correct.

But take someone to their home? No

Bowerboy
05-05-12, 11:14
I don't know, a Thai girl told me a friend of hers, a Falang, picked up a MILF type at a high end club, apparently she was hiso and had a senior position as a banker. Anyways, this dude shagged her so good that in the morning, she gave him a 20, 000 baht tip. I told her baloney, but she believed the story LOL.

Utter tosh.

Maybe the chick in the SUV wasn't wealthy but upper / middle class type with a rich ex BF or husband. I don't think Thai elite like Yingluck would cruise to the Qbar and pick up a random sex tourist LOLEither way they wouldn't be taking anyone to their home.

Chill Out
05-05-12, 11:34
In any big city, you have tens of "rich chicks" who rebel against their daddies and society and do crazy shit in their twenties. Just because most girls in that social class wouldn't it, doesn't mean it's impossible.

Bowerboy
05-05-12, 11:47
In any big city, you have tens of "rich chicks" who rebel against their daddies and society and do crazy shit in their twenties. Just because most girls in that social class wouldn't it, doesn't mean it's impossible.You are right but I'll say it again. They wouldn't take them to their home. Whether rich kid or self made woman.

Seriously, ask yourself how many times you have been into a Thai girls home that you are dating?

There are still A LOT of Thais (particularly the older generation) that assume any Thai girl with a Farang is a hooker. If nothing else then Thais know how to be discreet and where to draw the line hence the short time hotels all over town.

If he said short time hotel then yes I would definitely believe the story.

Fon Tok
05-05-12, 13:31
I suggest its got nothing to do with being anonymous on ISG, I suggest its all about the fact, you are taking the pics without permission or knowledge of the girls. Bit weird or creepy when its just about all we get, time and again. I try to imagine you doing it all the time, end result, weird, LOL. Taken without permission or knowledge thats the reason. Where's my pics? Yeh, prefer 'anonymous' than posting that stuff, LOL. Main thing is you like it, but not me. Doesn't upset me, just weird!I take thousands of pictures every month of many different things I see. Pretty ladies walking by are just part of life in Bangkok.

GentleBoner
05-05-12, 15:04
I take thousands of pictures every month of many different things I see. Pretty ladies walking by are just part of life in Bangkok.Taking photos of random girls on the street and posting them on a p4p forum is pretty creepy.

Not to mention could have negative consequences for the girls if people they know found out their photo was posted here.

Fon Tok
05-05-12, 15:19
Taking photos of random girls on the street and posting them on a p4p forum is pretty creepy.

Not to mention could have negative consequences for the girls if people they know found out their photo was posted here.OK, you're right. I've seen the light and that's it then for ISG.

Thanks to many of you for your interest and support the past few years. Happy mongering in Thailand.

And, one last shot of GentleBoner trolling Lower Sukhumvit.

Bartchamdo
05-05-12, 15:51
at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s beers have gone up from 105 to 150 and blowjobs from 700 to 800. i asked my favorite lady there about it and she explained that the place had a high overhead and the landlord's prices just keep rising. according to her, the rent is currently 50, 000 and electricity 30, 000. i can believe the rent, but for electricity that sounds a bit exaggerated. even with ac and lights going 18 hours a day how could it be that high unless the landlord is charging some insanely high electricity rate?

[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s isn't paying the girls any more than they did before, btw. they still get what they always did. i asked about it a long time ago and seem to recall the girls got 300 or 400 baht from it.

a 100 baht increase for the bj doesn't doesn't bother me much, but charging 150 baht for a bottle of beer is a bit much for at a place like this. i'll still remain a customer at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, but will stick to drinking elsewhere.

tip: visit during shift change at about 4pm if you want the biggest selection. you get to see the day crew and the night crew.

Bowerboy
05-05-12, 16:11
at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s beers have gone up from 105 to 150 and blowjobs from 700 to 800. i asked my favorite lady there about it and she explained that the place had a high overhead and the landlord's prices just keep rising. according to her, the rent is currently 50, 000 and electricity 30, 000. i can believe the rent, but for electricity that sounds a bit exaggerated. even with ac and lights going 18 hours a day how could it be that high unless the landlord is charging some insanely high electricity rate?

[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s isn't paying the girls any more than they did before, btw. they still get what they always did. i asked about it a long time ago and seem to recall the girls got 300 or 400 baht from it.

a 100 baht increase for the bj doesn't doesn't bother me much, but charging 150 baht for a bottle of beer is a bit much for at a place like this. i'll still remain a customer at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, but will stick to drinking elsewhere.

tip: visit during shift change at about 4pm if you want the biggest selection. you get to see the day crew and the night crew.hopefully they will spend the extra money to give them blow job training because at the moment the girls in [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s give the worst blow jobs found in thailand. seriously. the place is a joke and best avoided. star of light is far superior.

Member #4698
05-05-12, 16:12
OK, you're right. I've seen the light and that's it then for ISG. Thanks to many of you for your interest and support the past few years. Happy mongering in Thailand.Hey Fon, I hope you are just being sarcastic. Don't let the naysayers get you down. There is nothing wrong with taking cityscapes. You are recording the vibrant street life of BKK with a focus on pretty girls. If you were shooting the girls in compromising positions like a nip showing and then posting without their permission; I might see the objection. But that is not what you are doing, so there is nothing wrong with it. Some may like your shots. Others may think they don't add up to much. You can't please everybody, so just please yourself.

The problem is; there are too many critics here on the forum that seem to want to enforce their own values and styles of mongering on everybody else by launching personal attacks on members with whom they disagree. Having different opinions is good and contributes to the vitality of the forum, but personaly criticizing someone because you don't like their preferences or approaches to mongering has a stifling effect which is very harmful to the free exchange of information. No flaming should be the rule! Let's try a little self control for the sake of the forum. In the immortal words of Rodney King."Can we all get along?"

BionicMan
05-05-12, 16:29
Taking photos of random girls on the street and posting them on a p4p forum is pretty creepy.Not to mention could have negative consequences for the girls if people they know found out their photo was posted here.Do the pictures show a naked girl smiling to the camera after she said "for your eyes only"? No! Do the pictures imply the girl is a hardened hooker going to work? No! Do the pictures show a girl with her phone number and a board reading "available for p4p but don't tell my family"? No!

I think your problem is that none of those pictures show naked girls and so both your hands are free to type this nonsense on your keyboard.

Sky Ryder
05-05-12, 19:04
I suggest its got nothing to do with being anonymous on ISG, I suggest its all about the fact, you are taking the pics without permission or knowledge of the girls. Bit weird or creepy when its just about all we get, time and again. I try to imagine you doing it all the time, end result, weird, LOL. Taken without permission or knowledge thats the reason. Where's my pics? Yeh, prefer 'anonymous' than posting that stuff, LOL. Main thing is you like it, but not me. Doesn't upset me, just weird!I must admit that I find your finding the Fok Tok photos,"creepy", creepy as well. I realize that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but seriously, the photos are taken in public places and are of the ladies most of the time doing nothing more than walking. And you found a way to make that creepy, that fact that you actually spend time "imagining" it gives me the "willies".

I think it would be a LOT more "weird" to actually stop the girl and say,"Hey can I take a picture of you walking down the street". IMHO, it is no different than taking a ramdom photo of a landmark and getting strangers in the picture as well. I will give you that the subject aren't landmarks, or wait a minute. Maybe they really are "landmarks", the ladies of Bangkok are certainly known around the world for their allure and beauty!

A guy taking a photo of some girl with her lips wrapped around his johnson is okay, but a fully clothed lady, photographed in public place freaks some people out?

I find it VERY curious that some people want to impose their sense of correctness on this forum of all places.

I sincerely hope that Fon Tok continues to post his pictures, the may not be of "money" shots, but it sure brings back great memories of the beauty that can be found in Bangkok and all around Thailand, even if I will never meet them.

Duniawala
05-05-12, 19:07
OK, you're right. I've seen the light and that's it then for ISG.

Thanks to many of you for your interest and support the past few years. Happy mongering in Thailand.

And, one last shot of GentleBoner trolling Lower Sukhumvit.Please don't stop. Love your pics. 1000% way better than some of the nasty gyne shots some love. And being photographed in public, is perfectly fine by copyright laws.

Keep shooting, my man.

Fun Filled
05-05-12, 19:22
Totally agree. Not sure of the motivation behind the story but after nearly 9 years living here I can guarantee this is not true.

GUARANTEE. No matter how good looking, no matter how suave. This is completely counter to everything a Thai girl like you describe would do.

Absolutely this story is fabricated.I guess its pure luck. I was at right place at right time. Brother you need to work on your timing. I don't care if you guys believe it or not but what I wrote is all true. I realized in morning I should have not gone with her its not safe. But I guess I was do drunk and excited to think all that at that moment after all I was experiencing it for the first time.

I don't understand why you guys so surprised to listen that she took me to her home. There are so many working girls in BKK who live alone in BKK (they rent condo) and they all go out and want to have fun on weekend. Place like RCA, Q bar and bed club is packed with weekend girls on Friday and Saturday.

If you go back few pages you will read so many reports about girls making out with guys and not charging. So its wrong to assume all the girls go for money. Bangkok is full of single girls who live alone and got a good job all they want is little fun on weekend. I was just lucky enough to experience that.

RobinHood1700
05-05-12, 19:58
You are right but I'll say it again. They wouldn't take them to their home. Whether rich kid or self made woman.

Seriously, ask yourself how many times you have been into a Thai girls home that you are dating?

There are still A LOT of Thais (particularly the older generation) that assume any Thai girl with a Farang is a hooker. If nothing else then Thais know how to be discreet and where to draw the line hence the short time hotels all over town.

If he said short time hotel then yes I would definitely believe the story.I don't know about you mate but I met this cute little girl at Q bar and very next day I was at her place to pick her up for dinner. She is Nurse by profession. You haven't scored anything in nine year that doesn't mean no one can score. So please don't generalize things. Bangkok is like any other cosmopolitan city. All kind of shit happens here.

NicFrenchy
05-05-12, 20:54
I suggest its got nothing to do with being anonymous on ISG, I suggest its all about the fact, you are taking the pics without permission or knowledge of the girls. Bit weird or creepy when its just about all we get, time and again. I try to imagine you doing it all the time, end result, weird, LOL. Taken without permission or knowledge thats the reason. Where's my pics? Yeh, prefer 'anonymous' than posting that stuff, LOL. Main thing is you like it, but not me. Doesn't upset me, just weird!There are weirder things happening in Bangkok, or this Forum. Get used to it. Shit, if I had to complain about everything that weird, we'd be here for a long time.

Fun Filled
05-05-12, 21:24
Good for you! Lucky you.

Can I ask your age and the ladies ages?

In my previous experience, yes this also happens to me, but all the times girls wanted to go to my place / apartment.

I always found that the day after I had to compensate the girl (not by paying her money but with gift while visiting a shopping mall).

My age is 50+ and the girls where around 30/35.I am 31 and girl was around 27. Its more like one night stand so I don't have to compensate though we did exchanged numbers. Now I think and realized it was really stupid of me to go with her because as I said BKK is full of surprised any thing could have happen. I guess I am Lucky enough. I am not white I am Indian with light skin (More like thai) Every time I tell a girl I am Indian they get surprise. They think I more look like from Singapore or another Asian Country but no way from India. I have to convince them that I am Indian. I guess it has more to do with they way I dress up and the way I behave and I speak good English. I know Most of the thai people don't like Indian. Thanks to my fellow brothers who who lack some basic hygiene, civic sense and more over they don't know how to be polite and respect other culture and people. But if you got looks and luck then noting like that.

Drogue
05-05-12, 22:11
OK, you're right. I've seen the light and that's it then for ISG.

Thanks to many of you for your interest and support the past few years. Happy mongering in Thailand.

And, one last shot of GentleBoner trolling Lower Sukhumvit.If you are indeed serious, you have let a few ignorant and uninformed people sway your view. I for one love the photos you post. I do not get to BKK as much as I used to, and I enjoy your street shots immensely. It would be a shame if you no longer post.

Nick Depalma
05-05-12, 23:18
planning for bkk:

gogo. baccara, rainbow 4.

bj bar. [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), sol.

2 girl. eden.

mid-level soapy. mango.

upscale. copacabana.

dance club. qbar.

throw in some lumpini and street food.

looking for the all around best thai experience. missing anything?

Jgm005
05-06-12, 00:16
Fon Tok,

Just ignore the folks that write the negative words. Many folks, I included, have always looked forward to your pictures. Keep 'them coming (street shots)


If you are indeed serious, you have let a few ignorant and uninformed people sway your view. I for one love the photos you post. I do not get to BKK as much as I used to, and I enjoy your street shots immensely. It would be a shame if you no longer post.

Run Mann
05-06-12, 02:19
at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s beers have gone up from 105 to 150 and blowjobs from 700 to 800. i asked my favorite lady there about it and she explained that the place had a high overhead and the landlord's prices just keep rising. according to her, the rent is currently 50, 000 and electricity 30, 000. i can believe the rent, but for electricity that sounds a bit exaggerated. even with ac and lights going 18 hours a day how could it be that high unless the landlord is charging some insanely high electricity rate?

[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s isn't paying the girls any more than they did before, btw. they still get what they always did. i asked about it a long time ago and seem to recall the girls got 300 or 400 baht from it.

a 100 baht increase for the bj doesn't doesn't bother me much, but charging 150 baht for a bottle of beer is a bit much for at a place like this. i'll still remain a customer at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, but will stick to drinking elsewhere.

tip: visit during shift change at about 4pm if you want the biggest selection. you get to see the day crew and the night crew.the girls do receive tips most of the times albeit not from the isg bargain shoppers so they don't make out too bad on the deal. however, there are other places where the price is still 700b. i'm not a drinker but why do you need to drink before a bj, alcohol is not going to stimulate you, is it dr. pearl? if the price of drinks are too high you can always get your drinks elsewhere and use the bj bar for it's primary purpose.

NicFrenchy
05-06-12, 03:50
OK, you're right. I've seen the light and that's it then for ISG.

Thanks to many of you for your interest and support the past few years. Happy mongering in Thailand.

And, one last shot of GentleBoner trolling Lower Sukhumvit.I beg to Differ. It actually makes me happy that some members don't like my views or my posts. If they get angry or sarcastic in public, makes me smile even more. I love that people don't get along, that you're always going to have idiots like gentle boner and the other guy whose name I forgot (and can't give enough of a fuck to scroll down and verify) who will contribute nothing to this forum and criticize the people who actually post.

If I were you, I would have posted even more pictures of girls to show these fuckers how highly you think about their 0. 02c.

For what it's worth, your pictures were actually the only ones worth clicking on to see on a Larger scale. The rest I look in a Thumbnail state only.

Sky Ryder
05-06-12, 04:19
I beg to Differ. It actually makes me happy that some members don't like my views or my posts. If they get angry or sarcastic in public, makes me smile even more. I love that people don't get along, that you're always going to have idiots like gentle boner and the other guy whose name I forgot (and can't give enough of a fuck to scroll down and verify) who will contribute nothing to this forum and criticize the people who actually post.

If I were you, I would have posted even more pictures of girls to show these fuckers how highly you think about their 0. 02c.

For what it's worth, your pictures were actually the only ones worth clicking on to see on a Larger scale. The rest I look in a Thumbnail state only.Maybe the post of the year! At least on this forum!

Zenlove
05-06-12, 06:02
Friends,

The last 2 days I did some bar hopping in Sukhumvit soi 22 with friends. All the bars are rip offs trying to add extra bar tabs on your bill. Review the bill carefully and keep count of the drinks. The companions sitting around, score below 3, and the music is non retro. The only recommended place is Titanium, even though a bit expensive, is a mood lifter for that area. Stick to Cowboy.

Tony Hoeprano
05-06-12, 06:12
planning for bkk:

gogo. baccara, rainbow 4.

bj bar. [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), sol.

2 girl. eden.

mid-level soapy. mango.

upscale. copacabana.

dance club. qbar.

throw in some lumpini and street food.

looking for the all around best thai experience. missing anything?mango isn't really a soapy and when i stopped in the other day, nothing to write home about in the looks department so i left. check out dream heaven on 33 and opt for nuru massage. they usually have a hot one or two available.

just saw a taxi driver was offed on soil 11 the other night.. i guess it wasn't his lucky night..

GentleBoner
05-06-12, 07:34
Do the pictures show a naked girl smiling to the camera after she said "for your eyes only"? No! Do the pictures imply the girl is a hardened hooker going to work? No! Do the pictures show a girl with her phone number and a board reading "available for p4p but don't tell my family"? No!

I think your problem is that none of those pictures show naked girls and so both your hands are free to type this nonsense on your keyboard.Context doesn't matter. This is a p4p forum. Having their photos seen here by family or employers (whose english might not be great) could be enough to cause serious problems for people. I would expect an expat to know this. Especially since the photos are often suggestive, even if not pornographic. I personally know a girl who was fired just for being seen flirting with tourists on khao san at night.

Bargirls are one thing, but leave civilians out of it. Their photos don't belong on ISG.

And yes frequently photographing girls on the street is something only serious creeps do.

Sky Ryder
05-06-12, 09:37
Context doesn't matter. This is a p4p forum. Having their photos seen here by family or employers (whose english might not be great) could be enough to cause serious problems for people. I would expect an expat to know this. Especially since the photos are often suggestive, even if not pornographic. I personally know a girl who was fired just for being seen flirting with tourists on khao san at night.

Bargirls are one thing, but leave civilians out of it. Their photos don't belong on ISG.

And yes frequently photographing girls on the street is something only serious creeps do.I am just curious. If this site is so taboo then how would someone explain that they had seen her photos here in the first place.

"Oh I just stumbled on this P4P site and by mistake found myself in the Thailand Photo pages or Bangkok reports. Give me a break!

Your friend was fired for conduct in public. By your own admission not from some photos on this or any other site.

I can't even begin to fathom, how Fon Tok's photos (or any other person photos of the girls in public) are "suggestive". They show a lady walking down the street! Now I will agree that they look good, but they walked out the door that morning dressed looking that way knowing full well they would be seen in public!

One thing I am SURE of is that you have absolutely NO standing to decide what does and does not "belong" on ISG, you don't own the board anymore than any of the rest of us and until you do, then the ONLY person who has that right is Jackson, that is not debatable!

One other thing that at least in my opinion is certainly up for debate is your assertion that taking pictures of ladies on the street somehow constitutes deviate behavior,

I wholeheartedly disagree with your position, but hey it is just that, your opinion, of no more value than mine!

If that is in fact the case, the CREEPS UNITE! WE want MORE "CREEPY" pictures!

Viva la difference!

Daddy07
05-06-12, 10:08
And yes frequently photographing girls on the street is something only serious creeps do.Tell me something, Mr. GentleBoner; I'm curious.

What does it feel like inside your head to have it so full of shit?

BionicMan
05-06-12, 11:10
Especially since the photos are often suggestive, even if not pornographic. .Are you saying a girl walking in the streets, by her own will, wearing a miniskirt and eventually high heels (to look nice and please everybody's eyes, including her owns) is offering PORNOGRAPHIC views? Are you nut or what?

BionicMan
05-06-12, 11:30
Context doesn't matter. This is a p4p forum. Having their photos seen here by family or employers (whose english might not be great) could be enough to cause serious problems for people.I once was browsing on a web site "specialized" in voyeur images, majority were amateur exposing themselves in public. There was a section called "seen in the streets" or something like that. Often beach pictures. Pictures just framing what anybody could see with his own eyes, anybody of any age, BTW. And not standing smartly at the bottom of a star to catch if th girls were wearing undies. Lo and behold I bumped into a beach picture of two girls I knew very well for working reasons and they were both topless (not a big deal in a sunny beach!). The website was obviously kinky, no doubt. But those pictures were absolutely innocent, albeit I could see the tits I could never see when they were working. It never passed to my mind to comment negatively on the girls, with their employers or what. Was the publication on the site making the sluts all of a sudden? Or porn models exposing tits? Was I then entitled to hav dirty thoughts on the girls and approch them with a blackmail? Is that what are you implying or suggestung? To make things clear, as I aint no hypocrit, I don't hide with god friends, even at work, I am reading ISG. And on that specific case I showed the web page to a few common friends and we all had a laugh on "big brother". I didn't show it to the girls to avoid them embarrassment. And kept looking at them just as before, not as porn models, as they weren't.
I would rather be more concerned about a picture of a girl sucking a dick in a farang's hotel room when when says at home that she is the cashier at 7-11..Be it on ISG or anywhere, even on a sex manual. Even if she is consenting to the picture... If we have to out some moral in this story.
Get a life, dude.

GentleBoner
05-06-12, 11:58
Especially since the photos are often suggestive, even if not pornographic.



Are you saying a girl walking in the streets, by her own will, wearing a miniskirt and eventually high heels (to look nice and please everybody's eyes, including her owns) is offering PORNOGRAPHIC views? Are you nut or what?

English likely isn't your first language. Probably not your 2nd either.

NicFrenchy
05-06-12, 12:10
Bargirls are one thing, but leave civilians out of it. Their photos don't belong on ISG.Ahahahahahahah Civilians? CI VI LIANS? Hahahahahahahahaha. Shit, I got to scroll through all 80 of your posts, if they're all as Hilarious as this one, I'm in for a Treat.

How old are you? Fucking 70? We're in 2012, nowadays people take pics of Everything and report them on various Blogs / Forums / Websites. If you don't like it, then keep your high morals out of here and go find Jesus somewhere, I am sure the two of you will get along just fine.

Civilians. Ahahahahahaha

GentleBoner
05-06-12, 12:27
Ahahahahahahah Civilians? CI VI LIANS? Hahahahahahahahaha. Shit, I got to scroll through all 80 of your posts, if they're all as Hilarious as this one, I'm in for a Treat.

How old are you? Fucking 70? We're in 2012, nowadays people take pics of Everything and report them on various Blogs / Forums / Websites. If you don't like it, then keep your high morals out of here and go find Jesus somewhere, I am sure the two of you will get along just fine.

Civilians. Ahahahahahaha

Quite a low threshold for humor you have. Quite a bizarre system for capitalizing words also. But glad you enjoyed my post so much.

I'm likely younger than you are. Not so interested in morality, Jesus, or endless photographs of women in skirts walking down the street.

Dreams
05-06-12, 15:40
English likely isn't your first language. Probably not your 2nd either.. The releveance of this last comment with the debate?

Are you suggesting that anyone whose English is not his first or even second language should be denied the right to post? BTW, English is my 3rd language.

Etaoin2003
05-06-12, 15:44
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Burqa_IMG_1127.jpg

Crazy4Thai
05-06-12, 15:56
I beg to Differ. It actually makes me happy that some members don't like my views or my posts. If they get angry or sarcastic in public, makes me smile even more. I love that people don't get along, that you're always going to have idiots like gentle boner and the other guy whose name I forgot (and can't give enough of a fuck to scroll down and verify) who will CONTRIBUTE nothing to this forum and criticize the people who actually POST.

(snip).Ahem, Mr. 3,689 posts. Or whatever the number is. It's clear to me that posting is not the same as contributing. Whiners! WHERE the fuck is LBM and his seasoned words of wisdom? Now THAT GUY contributes. What exactly brought you back? Was it the forum structure? Like Annies and Tulips and All Other Fuckshops Claiming to be Massage?

BionicMan
05-06-12, 16:01
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Burqa_IMG_1127.jpgI disagreee. It is too fancy! Should be black!

Dreams
05-06-12, 17:32
Ahem, Mr. 3,689 posts. Or whatever the number is. It's clear to me that posting is not the same as contributing. Whiners! WHERE the fuck is LBM and his seasoned words of wisdom? Now THAT GUY contributes. What exactly brought you back? Was it the forum structure? Like Annies and Tulips and All Other Fuckshops Claiming to be Massage?Even if 1% of Nic's posts are considered "useful", (and I think the real number is far higher) , it's aready far more than yours. So practice what you say, and post something useful.

GentleBoner
05-06-12, 17:35
. The releveance of this last comment with the debate?

Are you suggesting that anyone whose English is not his first or even second language should be denied the right to post? BTW, English is my 3rd language.He misunderstood me. I specifically said the photos were NOT pornographic, then he called me a nut for saying they're pornographic.

Jgm005
05-06-12, 21:48
May I offer a easy suggestion. If you see the post is from Fon Tok then skip the bloody thing. Easy enough.


Quite a low threshold for humor you have. Quite a bizarre system for capitalizing words also. But glad you enjoyed my post so much.

I'm likely younger than you are. Not so interested in morality, Jesus, or endless photographs of women in skirts walking down the street.

Crazy4Thai
05-07-12, 03:29
Even if 1% of Nic's posts are considered "useful", (and I think the real number is far higher) , it's aready far more than yours. So practice what you say, and post something useful.You mean useful like naming places and names where I had good service? Like 4 of my posts recently? I'm not practicing, I'm doing it. If you'd bothered to look before you wrote you would already know that.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1029-Bangkok-Hotels&p=1273645#post1273645

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1273641#post1273641

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3017-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-TULIP-ONLY!&p=1272476#post1272476

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1272395#post1272395

Fon Tok
05-07-12, 03:42
May I offer a easy suggestion. If you see the post is from Fon Tok then skip the bloody thing. Easy enough.I have two easy suggestions for my ISG friends.

One, please just forget about my "creepy" street shots of beautiful, anonymous, Bangkok women with lovely legs as there will not be anymore.

And two, if you have some free time in the afternoon, go over to Patpong 2 and visit the very pretty little bartender who works at the Topless Beer Bar. She is very sweet and likes to meet polite, generous men. Buy her a drink and get to know her a a little. I don't know her name, but she is from Khon Kaen. You'll know who she is when you see her.

NicFrenchy
05-07-12, 03:56
May I offer a easy suggestion. If you see the post is from Fon Tok then skip the bloody thing. Easy enough.Or he could use the "Ignore" Function. Then Fon Tok would not even appear on his screen anymore.

Like I have a few people on my Ignore list (Penbelly was there before he got banned. But we still have his creepy ass thread there in the Forum). I wonder what one has to do to really be booted out of here. (maybe OTH could share his opinion on that)

Daddy07
05-07-12, 06:42
. please just forget about my "creepy" street shots of beautiful, anonymous, Bangkok women with lovely legs as there will not be anymore.I think it's a shame (unless you're joking) that you're going to allow a few cretin Internet trolls have their way and chase off your photographs from this board. You should simply tell them to fuck off and keep posting as you like. You are one of the most prolific and worthwhile contributors here.

I don't blame you for being tired of all the bullshit from the ungrateful peanut gallery.

I joined this forum six years ago because I wanted to learn all about Thailand as a mongering destination and potential retirement location. Now, I'm fortunate enough to be living that dream, and it's largely because of all the valuable information shared here by posters like yourself and many others, some of whom are long gone now due to the petty hecklers and jerks who have taken their place.

Those who are interested in knowing what Thailand is like; what they are likely to see on the streets; the sights; the hustle; the street vendors; the people; especially the beautiful young slim Thai girls dressed to the nines who can be seen going about their daily lives in public; your photographs reveal it all, and with class.

You don't invade their privacy. You don't show their faces. You just give us a wonderful glimpse of their presence everywhere while at the same time respecting their dignity. I, and many others here, I'm sure, thank you for that, Fon Tok. You and your photographs add a special dimension to the Thailand forum.

Your pictures are far more enlightening and informative about Thailand, the people and the women of Thailand, than all of the naked spread-eagle-crotch shots, cum glazed faces, and dick buried in asses contributions put together in my humble opinion.

So from one happy American expat in the Land of Smiles to another:

Thanks again, Fon Tok!

I'll miss your stuff.

NicFrenchy
05-07-12, 07:27
Those who are interested in knowing what Thailand is like; what they are likely to see on the streets; the sights; the hustle; the street vendors; the people; especially the beautiful young slim Thai girls dressed to the nines who can be seen going about their daily lives in public; your photographs reveal it all, and with class.

You don't invade their privacy. You don't show their faces. You just give us a wonderful glimpse of their presence everywhere while at the same time respecting their dignity. I, and many others here, I'm sure, thank you for that, Fon Tok. You and your photographs add a special dimension to the Thailand forum.Very well said! But unfortunately, like a lot of other insightful posts here, it will go unnoticed because there aint any pussy or ST / LT rates in it.

May I suggest Posting Photos in the Expat Forum? Where the discerned gentlemen will appreciate them for their REal Value?

And while we are at it, can we block access to the Dross of the Forum? So we can have intelligent conversations? .

Chill Out
05-07-12, 08:25
Seriously, ask yourself how many times you have been into a Thai girls home that you are dating?I basically live in my girl's condo. I've slept there more than 200 times.

Daddy07
05-07-12, 10:39
May I suggest Posting Photos in the Expat Forum? Where the discerned gentlemen will appreciate them for their REal Value?

And while we are at it, can we block access to the Dross of the Forum? So we can have intelligent conversations? .Are you kidding me, Nic? The Expat part of the forum is dead, exiled to a completely different forum where it has been rotting ever since for lack of use. That sorry situation is all because a bunch of new crybabies complained to Jackson that OTH and a few others expressed opinions which hurt their tender feelings.

So eventually we lost OTH, who contributed great stuff to the board along with many others who just got sick and tired of the bitching, moaning and crying from newcomers who, by-the-way, contributed nothing. He was grumpy but entertaining and plenty worthwhile. He really was an old Thai hand who knew what he was talking about.

We enjoyed a lot of great discussions among the expats before the split. There are no longer many discerned gentlemen here who are interested in quality discussions and photographs, like Fon Tok's, which can be appreciated for their real value.

Giotto, for example, still pops up refreshingly now and then, but was chased away to his own forum, which is the kiss of death here, by a bunch of sorry assholes bitching about his promotion of the Lodge. They didn't give a crap about his valuable contributions and the fact that his Lodge is a REAL value all things considered.

The rest of the forum has been watered down with new threads and new boards because of complainers who wanted every massage parlor to have its own thread and every topic to have its own board.

The only reason I'm still here is mostly habit, I guess, and the fact that every now and then someone drops a pearl into the mix of stupid questions and inane drivel, and, oh yes, horrible photographs of hideous looking girls which would make any self respecting monger avoid Thailand like the plague.

It's nice to have you back because you have always been one of the contributors; one with an attitude, and that is always entertaining.

Guess you got tired of wooing the good little girls of Bangkok, eh? The freebies? The non-pro's? Hahahahaha! I could have told you that free pussy is just way too expensive. Somehow or another they'll make you pay.

For me it was the mental anguish involved with trying to placate them while butterflying. No way will I ever stop doing that. I had a lot of very pretty ones; young ones too, and free sex, but it wasn't worth the price. Sooner or later they can get mean and when that happens it almost always ends badly.

My hat is off to guys like Mr. E. Who can juggle them all in the air without getting burned.

No, I'm afraid we can't block access to all the Dross on the forum. We're just going to have to put up with it until things get better, which is always possible if one is optimistic.

FlyingVisitor
05-07-12, 10:47
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1277814]I have two easy suggestions for my ISG friends.

One, please just forget about my "creepy" street shots of beautiful, anonymous, Bangkok women with lovely legs as there will not be anymore.

Please, Fon Tok, don't give up!

Your many photos that were shot in the streets always have been a pleasure to look at. You have a well cultured technique and a good view for beauty. I have admired all your contributions, that are second to nothing and much more stimulating than the bad quality photo shot with a mobile phone.

When members like to present their contributions with detailed anatomic / gynecologic photos they should take care of good photographic quality.

In conclusion: I will miss your artistic contributions. Please let us share from your capacity in the future.

Thanks and regards.

FV

Fun Filled
05-07-12, 10:57
Enough about the photographs. Can we move on and do what we are supposed to do. Write about our experiences.

I will take the initiative and Mr. Bowerboy don't be jealous cause I scored another one for free.

I have met this girl at Thilovelinks. Com and I have been chatting with her through skype and sms for almost a month. She owns a pub in some Thai area in partnership. This Friday night around 10 I got her sms saying that she is going to Q bar and if I want I can join her. I text her back I will be there around 11:30.

Guys When ever I am in BKK I always stay at sukhumvit soi 11, I simply love this street and thanks to the discount card provided by hotel my entry to Q bar and Bed club is free.

So I again got message from her around 11 saying that she is there and waiting for me up stair at open bar. I just took the shower and went there. She was sitting alone and drinking wine. I asked her why she alone she replied that her 2 friends will be joining her later. We were drinking and having a good talk around 12:30 two of her female friends also joined us. Both of them were fashion designers and partners in Business. All of us were having a good conversation and enjoying our drinks (Kindly note that till this point I didn't paid for their drinks). Around 1 to charge up the atmosphere I orders tequila shots for every 1 (I Paid for that) after 10 min my friend (PUB owner) order another round of shots around 1:30 we moved down and few more drinks and dancing followed. It was perfect evening. Good company (3 beautiful girls) , good conversation, good drinks, good music and some dancing. Around 3 light of Q bar turned on and it was time to go. We decided to eat at soi 11 itself. There is one restaurant at the starting of the soi 11 just next to DOSA King sign board its open 24X7 I don't remember the name, the fashion designer girls took us there. Food was good.

After food we decided to call of the night so the fashion designers girls took the taxi and left. My girl's car was parked out side Q bar so we walked there. When we reached the car I asked her is he sure she can drive because she was bit drunk. She told me that she is bit drunk so she will drive slowly. I offered her that she can rest at my hotel and can go back home in morning because its not safe to drive when dunked. To my surprise she took my offer and we parked the car at my hotel parking which was hardly 100meters from there and then moved to my room.

She was fun in bed. We had a good time. She woke me up at elven and told me that she has to rush because she got a review meeting of the staff at 1 in noon. She took the bath and I escorted her to the car. We hugged and said good bye. After an hour I got a text from her saying that she has reached and thanked me for everything.

Jgm005
05-07-12, 12:29
Was the Topless Beer Bar once the "Playboy Club" years and years ago? If so I had my initiation in the mongering scene in the back where the girls where. They also, back then, had live sex shows on the stage.


Snipped.

And two, if you have some free time in the afternoon, go over to Patpong 2 and visit the very pretty little bartender who works at the Topless Beer Bar. She is very sweet and likes to meet polite, generous men. Buy her a drink and get to know her a a little. I don't know her name, but she is from Khon Kaen. You'll know who she is when you see her.

NicFrenchy
05-07-12, 12:52
Are you kidding me, Nic? The Expat part of the forum is dead, exiled to a completely different forum where it has been rotting ever since for lack of use. That sorry situation is all because a bunch of new crybabies complained to Jackson that OTH and a few others expressed opinions which hurt their tender feelings.

So eventually we lost OTH, who contributed great stuff to the board along with many others who just got sick and tired of the bitching, moaning and crying from newcomers who, by-the-way, contributed nothing. He was grumpy but entertaining and plenty worthwhile. He really was an old Thai hand who knew what he was talking about.

We enjoyed a lot of great discussions among the expats before the split. There are no longer many discerned gentlemen here who are interested in quality discussions and photographs, like Fon Tok's, which can be appreciated for their real value.

Giotto, for example, still pops up refreshingly now and then, but was chased away to his own forum, which is the kiss of death here, by a bunch of sorry assholes bitching about his promotion of the Lodge. They didn't give a crap about his valuable contributions and the fact that his Lodge is a REAL value all things considered.

The rest of the forum has been watered down with new threads and new boards because of complainers who wanted every massage parlor to have its own thread and every topic to have its own board.We agree here. Ah, the good times. I miss the 2006 to 2009 period. People seemed to know how to behave these days.


Guess you got tired of wooing the good little girls of Bangkok, eh? The freebies? The non-pro's? Hahahahaha! I could have told you that free pussy is just way too expensive. Somehow or another they'll make you pay.NAh, The money I have, it's just the game, I needed something Different. Being back to P4P for a while is refreshing. Well, I tried Cowboy and I can say I hate that scene, it's really not for me. To sit among a crew of Wannabe drunkards and looking ad jaded girls that think about only one thing: "Go fuck that asshole Farang, get the money and go home to see my son / daughter"

Is it ok to discuss that here? Or Kurt from Frankfurt is going to send Jackson a complaint email?

GoodEnough
05-07-12, 14:06
I rarely contribute to this forum, as my knowledge of Thailand pales next to Nic and some of the other regular contributors. I live in the Philippines and only get to LOS a couple of times a year, with one of those times coming up later this week. I used to lurk on this forum prior to trips to pick up information on the latest scene. However, I'm sick of the bars, not at all into the Go Go scene, and massage parlors have nothing new to show to me. Hoping to glean some information on new places, or at least some that remained undiscovered for me, I've read back several pages prior to making the trip. Without intending to flame anyone, it doesn't seem to me that there's nearly as much information here as I remember a few years ago. Guess I'll have to launch a voyage of self-discovery.

GE

Fun Filled
05-07-12, 14:20
I rarely contribute to this forum, as my knowledge of Thailand pales next to Nic and some of the other regular contributors. I live in the Philippines and only get to LOS a couple of times a year, with one of those times coming up later this week. I used to lurk on this forum prior to trips to pick up information on the latest scene. However, I'm sick of the bars, not at all into the Go Go scene, and massage parlors have nothing new to show to me. Hoping to glean some information on new places, or at least some that remained undiscovered for me, I've read back several pages prior to making the trip. Without intending to flame anyone, it doesn't seem to me that there's nearly as much information here as I remember a few years ago. Guess I'll have to launch a voyage of self-discovery.

GEYeh I totally agree. People here are more interested in abusing and criticising each other. I guess we are no more human.

NicFrenchy
05-07-12, 14:23
I'm sick of the bars, not at all into the Go Go scene, and massage parlors have nothing new to show to me.Wow, you're going to hate what I have to suggest, but I think the only options you have left are:

- Medical Holiday.

- Shopping.

- Temples.

Coming from the Phils, I'm not goign to suggest the beach since Boracay is the worlds top beach destination.

Oh, have you tried Dr BJ? I guess that's the only Mongering thing left?

If you want more info on how to get "Regular girls online" PM Me, I will not post helpful info publicly

Bowerboy
05-07-12, 14:26
I basically live in my girl's condo. I've slept there more than 200 times.Nice. Classy

BionicMan
05-07-12, 14:35
I rarely contribute to this forum, as my knowledge of Thailand pales next to Nic and some of the other regular contributors. I live in the Philippines and only get to LOS a couple of times a year, with one of those times coming up later this week. I used to lurk on this forum prior to trips to pick up information on the latest scene. However, I'm sick of the bars, not at all into the Go Go scene, and massage parlors have nothing new to show to me. Hoping to glean some information on new places, or at least some that remained undiscovered for me, I've read back several pages prior to making the trip. Without intending to flame anyone, it doesn't seem to me that there's nearly as much information here as I remember a few years ago. Guess I'll have to launch a voyage of self-discovery.GEThere is not much left to debate on ISG once you remove bars, GoGo, MP (you forgot soapies!) from your list. Maybe FL's? True what Nic said: Dr BJ (depends where you place it in your "Not to do list"

Fun Filled
05-07-12, 14:44
I want to try the FREE THAI GIRL thing. CAn you guys tell me what lies and deception works best?For sure don't tell them you are here for holiday. Tell them you are here for work and you will be frequently visiting Thai or you visit frequently.

Traveler1234
05-07-12, 14:52
I miss the 2006 to 2009 period.Things will balance out. People come and go, just like the service providers!

Chill Out
05-07-12, 15:39
Nice. ClassyHaha, I like how you went from "it's impossible" to "classy" there. You are not easy to please, are you? ;)

I don't live in BKK but spend a lot of time here so I have the choice between paying for long-term stay in a serviced apartment, or go to my girl's place where I pay nothing, can leave all my stuff (clothes etc) , have an actual living setup (kitchen, room, living room, balcony) and a massive pool that is bigger than most 5 star hotels'. And it's central. And she fucks me for free. And she is great fun and OK with me seeing other girls in my spare time.

Works for me but I'm sure you have a better deal.

Stay classy ;)

NicFrenchy
05-07-12, 17:05
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Burqa_IMG_1127.jpgVery nicely done, That one actually made me laugh, Lets wait and see what the Photo-Police has to say.

Tony Hoeprano
05-08-12, 07:01
Had a gal from one of the online dating sits text me the other night, she and her friend were going to Shock 39 and later they went to Mixx nightclub, and wanted me to join her. I was feeling a bit lazy and declined the offer and stayed home and played video games. At 3 AM she texted me and said that she wanted to come over. I was a little apprehensive about letting a stranger come here at the wee hours of the night (morning) but nevertheless I was feeling horny and told her to come on over and we'd meet at the nearby McDonalds. I then locked all my valuables in a secure place, just to be on the safe side. I was hungry and ordered a Sundae and Cheese burger, no set. She told me she didn't like Shock 39 because they had too many Arabs and they smell bad (her words not mine!)

At this point it looked like all she wanted to do was sleep on the sofa, so I retired to my bedloom and went to sleep, she followed me there, asked me if I had a big tshirt for her to wear. I said sure here you, go and she turned around and put the tshirt on and I didn't look while she took off her bra. At this point, still no sign of friskiness, so I played it cool and eased off the gas pedal, so to speak. Things then started heating up, at this point I knew I would gain entry into her vagina. She caught a 2nd wind and didn't seem to be so tired anymore! She had some of the nicest set of jugs I've seen on a Thai babe so far, couldn't keep my hands and mouth off them! She was a real sexual dynamo and I think the neighbors heard all the fun LOL. She told me she hadn't had sex in a while and was really getting into it, said to fuck her long time, she came twice and then I finished, then went to sleep. In the morning she left on cue, no unnecessarily hanging around, she took a shower, then left, and didn't ask for taxi fare.

NicFrenchy
05-08-12, 07:55
Another guy admitting there is no FREE sex. Hahahaha. Come on guys, the girls want something more than your GOOD company-just admit it. You won't be so angry then.

Just pay and leave out the dramma! Be happy and not like mr NIC-one angry fella!H444, oh you are so wrong. On so many levels. I will just say that for the people who live in Bangkok and actually know a thing or two about Thai ladies (not the P4P Type or the Wannabe Gold Diggers) there is a lot of opportunities. Many Thai Ladies are BORED and LONELY.

Especially with half the Male Population being Gay.

Treat them with respect, nicely and they will respond as such. I have done the non P4P heavily for 2 years now and only 10% of the girls were interested about Money. That my Friend, is a FACT.

NicFrenchy
05-08-12, 08:00
She was a real sexual dynamo and I think the neighbors heard all the fun LOL. She told me she hadn't had sex in a while and was really getting into it, said to fuck her long time, she came twice and then I finished, then went to sleep. In the morning she left on cue, no unnecessarily hanging around, she took a shower, then left, and didn't ask for taxi fare.Great Report! I'm waiting for our Grumpy444 to come and say that you're an ass for not having paid her because it's not possible that a girl in Thailand would want sex and no money.

On a positive note, I find that when Thai girls drink, they are Horny as hell and there is no telling them you are tired! They will go on and on and on.

Chill Out
05-08-12, 08:01
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Chill Out
05-08-12, 08:04
I'm amazed at all these guys who think "there is no free sex". Talk about a warped vision of the world.


Another very hard to believe scenario! Or is it just me! How do these girls make money?Mine fucks other guys for money. The kind of guys who think "there is no free sex".

You are the one who sounds angry by the way ;)

NicFrenchy
05-08-12, 08:11
How do these girls make money?Well, they have a day job, like you and me. Do you have a Job 444? Or you're just a 16 yo, still wet behind the ears, coming to ISG dick-in-hand, ready to jerk off to the Picture Gallery?

Chill Out
05-08-12, 08:38
I'm waiting for our Grumpy444 to come and say that you're an ass for not having paid her

He'll just find it hard to believe.

Tony, I like that she played the good girl who just wants to sleep on the sofa, then when she realized you weren't going to do her anyway, she jumped you and made it happen. Typical. :) Next time just make a move, she came in your room for a reason.

Bowerboy
05-08-12, 09:45
I'm amazed at all these guys who think "there is no free sex". Talk about a warped vision of the world.

Mine fucks other guys for money. The kind of guys who think "there is no free sex".

You are the one who sounds angry by the way.Chill Out. Just to get some perspective for others. Can you hand on heart say you never help this girl out financially?

Does she bring guys back to her place that she picks up for paid sex (or free sex for that matter). That was the original jist of this.

By the way I know for sure there is definitely plenty of free sex in Bangkok and am not disputing that for a moment. Anyone who thinks that normal Thai girls don't like sex are sadly misguided (remember that the vast majority of Thai girls are not hookers and don't sleep with guys for money).

But those that live in a nice Condo in central Bangkok that let you stay there certainly have more to their story for sure ;)

Chill Out
05-08-12, 10:26
No problem bowerboy, but I'm not sure you'll believe it. Hand on heart:

Not only do I not help her financially, and never have, but we share costs. Supermarket shopping, cinema tickets, restaurants. She pays half. Or I pay once, she pays next time, and so on. All in all, she pays half.

When we travel: she pays half of everything, including hotels costs (if we were going to an expensive place, like 6000 a night, I would offer to pay, but like many thai girls, she doesn't like fancy places and sees them as a waste of money, so we do mid-level hotels together. 1000-1500 a night).

Keep in mind this is a girl who makes great money, she isn't struggling financially.

Does she bring other guys to her condo? Not as part of her job, that's for sure. She likes to have the two separate. She might bring other guys she likes when I'm not in BKK, but I really don't think it's frequent. I don't really care. She is free to do as she wants.

More perspective:

This is my first relationship ever with a professional girl. But I've been in Asia for a long time and obviously haven't been celibate. I've always had the same arrangements as above, with many, many girls. I absolutely agree with NicFrenchy that the vast majority (90%+) of normal girls will just like you because they like you, without expecting money. That is, of course, if you are nice, presentable and fun. It helps to be young (mid thirties for me) but it's very possible to do even when much older (friends of mine do it). But again you need to be nice. The girl needs to enjoy your company and have a good time.

Horny Landoora
05-08-12, 10:48
I absolutely agree with NicFrenchy that the vast majority (90%+) of normal girls will just like you because they like you, without expecting money. That is, of course, if you are nice, presentable and fun. It helps to be young (mid thirties for me) but it's very possible to do even when much older (friends of mine do it). But again you need to be nice. The girl needs to enjoy your company and have a good time.I second this. If you are nice and make the girl comfortable at all levels then you are at different level altogether. Yes money is important but it doesn't harm if you try to build up a friendship atleast if not a long term relationship!

NicFrenchy
05-08-12, 10:54
The girl needs to enjoy your company and have a good time.And that is EXACTLY what it is about for them. Whether you're 25 or 65, most could not care less as long as when you are together, it is SANOOK.

I dated a girl whose income was 14, 000 / month and she was paying for her place 6, 500 (she had a Roommate). She decided to upgrade to an 8k place with a King bed and be by herself just so that I could come as many time as I wanted without the Roommate being there.

Did I give her Money? NO. Did she ask me to Pay a bit of the Room? NO.

I booked her a hotel downtown Sukh for 2 months (I PAid) during the Floods as her place was under water. Cost me about 50k Total.

She was so grateful.

The month after she moved in, she handed me 5k cash as part of a 10 month refund. She wanted to pay me back the money. I refused.

She said she was very lucky to have me during the rough time as she has no family to help her. She never ever asked for a dime and when I go to her place, she always has the soda and junk food that I like (she pays).

She has FUN with me all the time we are together and that is enough for her to want to see me more. SANOOK, that's all there is to it really.

GentleBoner
05-08-12, 11:16
I visited Nana Plaza on Friday night. First time I'd been to a gogo in a few months. Was surprised to find it very packed in early May.

Billboard, Angel Witch & Rainbow 2 were all full and I took one of the last seats. Pretty decent lineups in all 3, including several girls I'd really enjoy humping.

The girl I ended up barfining turned out to be one of the most attractive girls I've ever been with. Enormous natural D-cup tits on a skinny body with a young pretty face. Not something you see too often in Thailand. I admit that I caved and paid 2000 ST, which I've only done once before. She wouldn't take 1500, and it was understandable to me, as she was too attractive for a gogo bar.

I made her earn it for about an hour straight. She wasn't complaining and turned out to be quite a nice girl without a superstar attitude.

NicFrenchy
05-08-12, 13:55
she was too attractive for a gogo bar.That's an interesting point of view.

I am now interested to see this girl (if you are willing to share her details). I thought GoGo bars was about banging girls that you would not be able to bang in the first place? So the more attractive the better, right?

I mean, why go to a bar and pay for a run-of-the-mill girl that you could find easily in Thailand? (I'm thinking non-P4P Freebies).

From where I stand, I would Barfine girls from GoGo bars (same as you did) if they were really pretty and I knew I could not screw a girl like this without paying.

GentleBoner
05-08-12, 14:52
That's an interesting point of view.

I am now interested to see this girl (if you are willing to share her details). I thought GoGo bars was about banging girls that you would not be able to bang in the first place? So the more attractive the better, right?

I mean, why go to a bar and pay for a run-of-the-mill girl that you could find easily in Thailand? (I'm thinking non-P4P Freebies).

From where I stand, I would Barfine girls from GoGo bars (same as you did) if they were really pretty and I knew I could not screw a girl like this without paying.

There are the standard hot girls in the gogo bar, but then occasionally you happen upon the girl who is too hot. Meaning that within a month she'll have 10 sponsors and you'll never see her again. I suspect that's what will happen with this girl. She was too much of an outlier to last long on the market.

The freebie thing sometimes works well and is enjoyable, but other times it doesn't seem worth the time and effort when you could go down the street and be happily satisfied within an hour and don't have some annoying chick hanging around your place the next day or angry at you because you don't want a relationship.

Bowerboy
05-08-12, 15:07
I visited Nana Plaza on Friday night. First time I'd been to a gogo in a few months. Was surprised to find it very packed in early May.

Billboard, Angel Witch & Rainbow 2 were all full and I took one of the last seats. Pretty decent lineups in all 3, including several girls I'd really enjoy humping.

The girl I ended up barfining turned out to be one of the most attractive girls I've ever been with. Enormous natural D-cup tits on a skinny body with a young pretty face. Not something you see too often in Thailand. I admit that I caved and paid 2000 ST, which I've only done once before. She wouldn't take 1500, and it was understandable to me, as she was too attractive for a gogo bar.

I made her earn it for about an hour straight. She wasn't complaining and turned out to be quite a nice girl without a superstar attitude.Hi GB. Which bar was this girl in? Sounds nice. I agree that some girls are all about looks and some about performance. Happy to pay for looks even if performance bad.

Werqweq
05-08-12, 15:13
H444, oh you are so wrong. On so many levels. I will just say that for the people who live in Bangkok and actually know a thing or two about Thai ladies (not the P4P Type or the Wannabe Gold Diggers) there is a lot of opportunities. Many Thai Ladies are BORED and LONELY.

Especially with half the Male Population being Gay.

Treat them with respect, nicely and they will respond as such. I have done the non P4P heavily for 2 years now and only 10% of the girls were interested about Money. That my Friend, is a FACT.Somehow I think that Hardon444 either has never had sex with anything but his hand, or has never had sex with a non-hooker, neither in Thailand nor anywhere else in the world.

NicFrenchy
05-08-12, 16:03
Somehow I think that Hardon444 either has never had sex with anything but his hand, or has never had sex with a non-hooker, neither in Thailand nor anywhere else in the world.And he has 1 Ball.

Chill Out
05-08-12, 16:12
From where I stand, I would Barfine girls from GoGo bars (same as you did) if they were really pretty and I knew I could not screw a girl like this without paying.I'm sure you could get a really pretty girl, but it would take longer than saying "barfine". ;)

Those hot girls can be found in the gogos, but it takes some hunting, and like Gentle said, they often don't last long. One of the hottest girl I've ever been with (P4P or not) was in Nana too, she lasted 2 months and found herself a big time sponsor.

This is a girl who was so hot, I saw her as I was coming down from the short time hotel (having come 5 minutes earlier) and I had to go for her anyway. I never did that before or since.

When she left, she wanted to remain friends but I guess her sponsor didn't like that too much, her phone number stopped working after a while.

BionicMan
05-08-12, 16:26
And he has 1 Ball.The problem is "where" does he have it?

NicFrenchy
05-09-12, 01:27
Gogo girls on average not that good looking. Even at baccara or rainbow 4 there are very few stunners.

Come on nic frenchy. You didn't know that!

Frankly speaking? The Bars and GoGos are not my scene so I know Very little about them.


I still not understand, you get so mut free sex why are you even interested in paying?Wait, I thought you said it was never free?

One gets tired of regular girls after a while. Been there, done that (from the stunners to the Fuglies). I need a Change. Something that's Hassle-Free.

Come in, bang, come out.

There is no doubt I will go back to non-P4P but now I mix it up more.

And it's not about the money, I have plenty of that already.

NicFrenchy
05-09-12, 01:29
Come on now. You didn't cave. 2000 is the going rate!For ST? Yes I would not mind paying that but you know as well as I do that some people here would freak out if quoted 2000ST, hell, even 1500 they'd have a heart Attack. ST Can be had for as low as 300 thb in Bangkok. Chinatown.

Luvpuss
05-09-12, 04:20
I rarely contribute to this forum, as my knowledge of Thailand pales next to Nic and some of the other regular contributors. I live in the Philippines and only get to LOS a couple of times a year, with one of those times coming up later this week. I used to lurk on this forum prior to trips to pick up information on the latest scene. However, I'm sick of the bars, not at all into the Go Go scene, and massage parlors have nothing new to show to me. Hoping to glean some information on new places, or at least some that remained undiscovered for me, I've read back several pages prior to making the trip. Without intending to flame anyone, it doesn't seem to me that there's nearly as much information here as I remember a few years ago. Guess I'll have to launch a voyage of self-discovery.

GEIf you can't get any excitement from the GOGO, MP, or bars, become a Monk. Sounds like maybe you are sick of good sex.

BionicMan
05-09-12, 09:21
ST Can be had for as low as 300 thb in Bangkok. Chinatown.Somebody told me that with 300thb you also get 1 Heineken before the deed and a 50% discount voucher for next time. The 2nd time you get a booklet with 10% discount coupons reedemable in Hairbin soapies.

Daddy07
05-09-12, 09:43
One gets tired of regular girls after a while. Been there, done that (from the stunners to the Fuglies). I need a Change. Something that's Hassle-Free.

So you do admit then, FINALLY, that your regular girls, your freebies, your good girls, are really hassle bundles and pains in the ass.

I knew you'd get around to that admssion sometime.

Sure, you'll go back to the good girls again because you think you can endure the hassle; you'll think it's worth it; but you'll come right back to P4P when you want your freedom again; when they put your nuts in a vice.

Every monger should know: If you want a girlfriend or a wife, find a good girl and let her put on the tether around your neck.

If you want to keep your freedom and peace of mind, stick to p4p and pay less in the long run.

BionicMan
05-09-12, 09:53
There is an old say that says "we pay them to leave in the morning". Very true. The freebies are not paid to leave in the morning. And do not go!

NicFrenchy
05-09-12, 11:32
So you do admit then, FINALLY, that your regular girls, your freebies, your good girls, are really hassle bundles and pains in the ass.

I knew you'd get around to that admssion sometime.I think in all fairness I have always preached the advantages of P4P, and I still do.

Thing is I was really getting bored of it all, the same MO, all the time. I needed something different. I have done it for 2 years and now I am back Full time in the P4P.

I like Change. It's not about Money, it's about the excitement for me

Tony Hoeprano
05-09-12, 16:33
Been chatting with a girl from Tagged off and on, and she was interested in meeting. Early 30's half Chinese / thai and a real estate agent. We setup a meeting to eat and watch movie at the T21. Unfortunately, I end up falling asleep right before meeting and was woken up by her text. I apologized profusely and said I would be on my way, it won't take me long if she could wait just a little bit. She text me back "waste my time" and "fuck off"."I go back home now" I understood her anger, by all means nobody likes to be stood up. I thought I could get on her good side so I called her and tried to explain the situation. She was having none of that! She just ragged on how her time was important and that there was no excuse for my tardiness! She then hung up on me LOL. I was disapointed, but maybe it was for the best, it seemed she didn't handle adversity too well and really flew off the handle, crying over spilled milk like my gramma would say. But she was pretty good looking though, so in that regard it was disappointing. I salvaged the evening by going to Rainbow 4 and then went to a massage parlor on 23 and got good FS for 1500, I really got my money's worth.

Thaifriendly has some strange gals. I met a girl who I thought was a classy chick, but when I met her, she must have been ashamed of her skin color. I have NEVER seen so much make up on a chick's face. She could have been cute, but looked ridiculous with all that makeup. Her squeaky voice reminded me of Alvin and the Chipmonks. Met another one who wanted to meet so very quick, always wanting to meet at the park next to The Emporium. She was 19, but actually looked older. Curiosity got the best of me, and I had a moment to spare so I met her, and she was pretty ghetto looking in the face. Not horribly ugly and had cheap looking hair. I think she had a decent figure though. I bought her lunch from the street vendor dude and ended the rendezvous right after she was done eating. (BTW- she said she hangs out on Soi 22)

Going back maybe 3 weeks, met a girl on TF, she claimed to be 31, but I have reservations she's even that young. Initially, I thought she was decent looking but her looks quickly faded. Her nose was too big, didn't have a tight stomach, and wore granny panties. I chalked it up as a ONS but she kept texting me and messaging me on MSN. I then asked her flat out if she was a working girl and she confessed that she was. She's a part time free lancer at Insomnia. The thing that tipped it off was, right before she left, she sarcastically said got money for taxi and smiled? I gave it a good chuckle and left it at that. Well, I guess the other part that tipped it off that she said beforehand she liked going to Insomnia. Very annoying girl and even tried to brag that a famous soccer player liked her. I said I have no idea who that is and told her soccer, along with NASCAR is the world's crappiest sport. Like Jim Rome Burning says, Soccer sucks! (no offense to any soccer fans haha)

Funny thing about Thai Friendly is a girl will start a chat then in a few minutes will disappear out of thin air. I've been doing TF heavy, but will go for a few days at DAI, then eventually hit the club scene for some more free shenanigans.

Chill Out
05-10-12, 07:50
Come on nic. Admit it! Free aint free!

I'm not the only one who senses you embellish a lot!
There is an old say that says "we pay them to leave in the morning". Very true. The freebies are not paid to leave in the morning. And do not go!I think there is a clear divide between mongers who enjoy the company of women beyond just the sex, and those who don't. I enjoy their company so the idea of spending time with them isn't a sacrifice or a bad thing.

If you consider having conversations with a woman or giving her any attention beyond fucking is "paying", then of course everyone in the world is "paying". That just makes the word meaningless.

ILuvIt
05-10-12, 16:12
I have two easy suggestions for my ISG friends.

One, please just forget about my "creepy" street shots of beautiful, anonymous, Bangkok women with lovely legs as there will not be anymore.

And two, if you have some free time in the afternoon, go over to Patpong 2 and visit the very pretty little bartender who works at the Topless Beer Bar. She is very sweet and likes to meet polite, generous men. Buy her a drink and get to know her a a little. I don't know her name, but she is from Khon Kaen. You'll know who she is when you see her.Being a "leg man" I liked your pics of leggy Thai gals. Sometimes gaping vaginas can be a bore.

Goatscrot
05-10-12, 17:59
I think there is a clear divide between mongers who enjoy the company of women beyond just the sex, and those who don't. I enjoy their company so the idea of spending time with them isn't a sacrifice or a bad thing.

If you consider having conversations with a woman or giving her any attention beyond fucking is "paying", then of course everyone in the world is "paying". That just makes the word meaningless.I live with a gal. When I hit a venue I want a gal to service me like a porn star / girlfriend right off the bat, then I want to get out of there after I have popped twice. Don't want to woo and romance. Just want the intense sex. That is why I am paying and not out catting around.

BionicMan
05-10-12, 18:18
I think there is a clear divide between mongers who enjoy the company of women beyond just the sex, and those who don't. I enjoy their company so the idea of spending time with them isn't a sacrifice or a bad thing.

If you consider having conversations with a woman or giving her any attention beyond fucking is "paying", then of course everyone in the world is "paying". That just makes the word meaningless.I completely agree with your second paragraph, as it is not only a matter of doing some plumb drainage. Enjoying the company is part of the experience. But still, the economical settlement clarifies some borders. In some cases it is needed as the GFE risks to go being the mere term.

John Dust
05-10-12, 19:54
Not a report, but a question. I bought Apcalis in November 2010. Most pharmacies did not carry it. Is genuine Apcalis still for sale in Bangkok? I am looking for generics. I really need a reliable retailer and I don't travel via India. I cannot believe that cheap stuff is not available.

Is it still available here?

If not, what other generics are? I've not used Viagra / Kamagra recently.

Any suggestions?

Even a point in a general direction is most appreciated.

Member #4387
05-11-12, 02:31
as an introduction of myself i would first of all say i am not an native english speaker as i am from norway (english is second language). i can not compete with you aussies, brits and americans / canadians when it comes to language and grammar. but i hope you understand my writing.

i have for some months been reading this forum with great interests and to be honest it does not put itself out from a hole lot of other forums (30% useful info and 70% arguing / critizising other members). but i have for sure from the 30% got a handful of good and useful information about mongoring issues. i don't think we are a dying race yet.

i consider myself fairly lucky and i lead an easy life with an occupation which brings me around the globe. after beeing introduced to thailand in early 2008 i am trying to frequent it as often as possible and from 2010 i have been into this country +-40 times. i am done travelling this country and when i am in thailand i stay in bangkok. i like the vibes of this big city and most of all i like the girls (yeah i know we don't have big cities in my country so you have a point).

i have in my early days into los made every mistake a mongorer can make. i have paid to much, i have paid to little, i have been to drunk, i have been robbed and so on. i have even ended up in my hotelroom with a lb. and when i got angry some nasty situation arose. i just mention some securityguards, police and a nife in the lb hands and me using all my man to man combat skills thaught from my military training to come out alive, hehe. wow those guys / girls can get mad but luckely not fight (atleast not this one). grand president in soi 11 still welcomes me by the way but the lb i never saw again. wonder what happened to him / her?

i soon stated that bar, gg- and mp girls was not my cup of tea. i am more into the freelance / dating online scene (dia and tagged) and as i am into clubbing in disco or nightclubs this suites me just perfect. i would say i have done my fair share of freelance ladies in bkk and mainly i hang out in the places mentioned here in isg earlier except from cm2 which does not cope to my liking (maby because we have enough east europeans in my country). i have met good girls, bad girls and girls in the middle. what is common to all of them is that they lie. every one of them.

on the other hand the online girls, i have to say, have surprised me. having read that tons of people have beeing scammed and hazzled. the online girls have turned out to be all good (i have not investigated them so hard because i have not paid them anything but they seem very good) and i use online girls to cover my need for normal relation between male / female. the problem is, and i am sure some of you guys have the same problem as me, they start to get to many and you have to start lying, don't you agree?

i tried my lying project just before christmas and told one girl i was arriving the 19. 12. 12. of course i was arriving the 18'th and went to spasso (with a friend of mine) for some freelance excitement. while sitting down enjoying the usual bottle of vodka, i suddenly noticed from the other side of the bar 2 girls looking at me in funny way. i did feel like there was sth familiar with one of them but after a few minutes it slipped my mind. i saw one made some phonecalls and after 1 hour or so my 19. 12 date shows up. wow what a commotion. i soon realised it was her friend staring at me in the begging. she did see me on one of our first meetings because she joined my date in q-bar (my choice) but i was at the end a bit drunk and did not quite remember her face (they are so hard to devide when they come in groups, hehe. but the make up sex was great i have never been so raped before from a woman.

my next fuck up was in january. i did my usual "arrive to early without telling routine" and this time i had this special tagged girl who i have met on several occations as my date target. i arrived early in the morning and after some sleep i grabbed a few beers from the minibar and started to look in dia. soon one "office" girl makes contact wondering the usual things. since i am not much of a smalltalker (maby a longwriter) i dived into asking her if she would like to meet up after her work. and she told me yes. she worked as a massuse in kempinski hotel so she suggested i meet her in siam paragorn. we went to kabuki restaurant for some kobe beef and it was nice. stunning lady. very beautiful girl (ca 170cm, nice handfuls, and hips with beautiful handles). i asked her if she would join me in my grand president (i usualy stay there) room. she said yes and off we went. from nana bts it is just short walk to president but who do i meet in soi 11? yes, my tagged girl of tomorrow. wow what a commotion. but what surprises me in bangkok is that they in some way forgive you. in norway i would most likely have been ditched by both girls. i know this may not be the truth if you are married to a thaigirl (i guess there is a reason thaidoctors are experts in putting your dick back on) and i read they can be pretty violent with both scissors and knifes if they caught you cheating on them. i saw some nasty pictures ones from a friend of mine working in the police where that described had happened. omg.

and not to speak of my regular gf in norway. she is the one i lie to the most. but so far i have not beeing caught. she is by the way norwegian / philly and i hope they are much calmer if they find out.

i have 3 ground rules as a mongorer: i never pay as in sponsoring a girl, i smile and i treat them nicely (escept from lying that is of course. but just a few know i am lying).

any fellow mongorers out there doing a fair share of lying as your usual bangkok / los routine? just wondering.

Luvpuss
05-11-12, 03:52
Not a report, but a question. I bought Apcalis in November 2010. Most pharmacies did not carry it. Is genuine Apcalis still for sale in Bangkok? I am looking for generics. I really need a reliable retailer and I don't travel via India. I cannot believe that cheap stuff is not available.

Is it still available here?

If not, what other generics are? I've not used Viagra / Kamagra recently.

Any suggestions?

Even a point in a general direction is most appreciated.My suggestion is to eat well, workout, get your ass in shape, and you won't need that shit anymore.

Dr BJ
05-11-12, 06:23
Not a report, but a question. I bought Apcalis in November 2010. Most pharmacies did not carry it. Is genuine Apcalis still for sale in Bangkok? I am looking for generics. I really need a reliable retailer and I don't travel via India. I cannot believe that cheap stuff is not available.

Is it still available here?

If not, what other generics are? I've not used Viagra / Kamagra recently.

Any suggestions?

Even a point in a general direction is most appreciated.Hi, a more direct response to your question is Cappra. I tried it recently and was very impressed, apparently it is herbal based and not chemical. It only has an effect when you are stimulated and takes around 30 minutes to kick in, so you do'nt have the worry of walking round with a trouser truncheon for 4 hours. The friend who reccomended it to me said it has a positive effect on the lady, which I found hard to believe, but his claim seemed to hold water when put to the test as the lady I was with at the time was beyond the realms of enthusiastic (even gave me a first class BBBJ for almost 30 minutes). The "friend" who gave me the capsule to try said he bought them from a pharmacy located within a 7/11 store and paid 1, 200 baht for a pack of 5 capsules (he originally asked for Ciallis but they did'nt have any and suggested Cappra). I personally think any stimulants should not be used on a regular basis, but that choice is left to the individual user. I for one will certainly have a pack on stand-by. If you decide to try it I sincerely doubt you will be dissapointed,"enjoy".

Regards BJ

FreebieFan
05-11-12, 06:44
My suggestion is to eat well, workout, get your ass in shape, and you won't need that shit anymore.Unless of course you had had some medical work done on your prostate which entailed the cutting of some nerves on the penis to access the prostate. And then yes you do need that shit anymore. And yes life is very good thanks to these very helpful little chemicals!

DRRonin
05-11-12, 06:53
Most guys I know here who use stimulants take Kamagra. It is an Indian rip-off of Viagra and I have heard nothing but good things from guys. Comes in pill and gel form and most seem to go the gel route. Can't quite recall the price but very inexpensive and available in most pharmacies in the Nana area I believe.


Not a report, but a question. I bought Apcalis in November 2010. Most pharmacies did not carry it. Is genuine Apcalis still for sale in Bangkok? I am looking for generics. I really need a reliable retailer and I don't travel via India. I cannot believe that cheap stuff is not available.

Is it still available here?

If not, what other generics are? I've not used Viagra / Kamagra recently.

Any suggestions?

Even a point in a general direction is most appreciated.

FreebieFan
05-11-12, 07:41
Coming from the Phils, I'm not goign to suggest the beach since Boracay is the worlds top beach destination.

Oh, have you tried Dr BJ? I guess that's the only Mongering thing left?Hi. Well whilst I know this is a sex forum (after 2, 500 posts I figure I know this LOL) but have to make a slight disagreement here. Boracay is becoming oversold, noisy and full of Koreans. The top beach destination, if beach is the criteria, is The Seychelles. Best beaches in the world. And being a former French colony, as well as former Brit colony, it has some interesting visitors. But sadly. Zero sex unless its with the wife.

Chill Out
05-11-12, 10:22
I live with a gal. When I hit a venue I want a gal to service me like a porn star / girlfriend right off the bat, then I want to get out of there after I have popped twice. Don't want to woo and romance. Just want the intense sex. That is why I am paying and not out catting around.I agree totally.

FlyingVisitor
05-11-12, 11:19
Not a report, but a question. I bought Apcalis in November 2010. Most pharmacies did not carry it. Is genuine Apcalis still for sale in Bangkok? I am looking for generics. I really need a reliable retailer and I don't travel via India. I cannot believe that cheap stuff is not available.

Is it still available here?

If not, what other generics are? I've not used Viagra / Kamagra recently.

Any suggestions?

Even a point in a general direction is most appreciated.-

Well, the drug should be still available in BKK. I recently (2 or 3 months ago) bought some Apcalis at a drugstore in Sukhumvit.

If you know the intersection Sukhumvit / soi 4 Nana you remember a bezin station at the corner. Walking to JW Marriott Hotel you at first see a money changer, then a small drugstore will follow. Proceed to the next entrance of a larger (!) Drugstore. There you will find anything you may want.

Enjoy and make the girls happy.

FV

NicFrenchy
05-11-12, 11:22
My suggestion is to eat well, workout, get your ass in shape, and you won't need that shit anymore.How do you know? Maybe the guy's 75?

NicFrenchy
05-11-12, 11:23
Hi, a more direct response to your question is Cappra. I tried it recently and was very impressed, apparently it is herbal based and not chemical. It only has an effect when you are stimulated and takes around 30 minutes to kick in, so you do'nt have the worry of walking round with a trouser truncheon for 4 hours. The friend who reccomended it to me said it has a positive effect on the lady, which I found hard to believe, but his claim seemed to hold water when put to the test as the lady I was with at the time was beyond the realms of enthusiastic (even gave me a first class BBBJ for almost 30 minutes). The "friend" who gave me the capsule to try said he bought them from a pharmacy located within a 7/11 store and paid 1, 200 baht for a pack of 5 capsules (he originally asked for Ciallis but they did'nt have any and suggested Cappra). I personally think any stimulants should not be used on a regular basis, but that choice is left to the individual user. I for one will certainly have a pack on stand-by. If you decide to try it I sincerely doubt you will be dissapointed,"enjoy".

Regards BJGreat Post and Good advice. I will research this on Google. And maybe try one but I am too young for that so I am scared of enhancing what works well already

Chill Out
05-11-12, 13:29
I talked with number 55 at Rainbow 4 a few months ago, and she asked for 2500. I declined. I remember another member of this forum reporting the same.

2 days ago she was looking at me a lot so I called her over, this time she accepted 2000. I didn't have a good feeling about what was coming, but still went ahead, she is cute.

Once at the hotel it quickly turned into my worst experience in Thailand. She started to complain immediately, and honest to God I wasn't doing anything except lay there. A BJ over 2 minutes was not acceptable to her. After a few more minutes of complaining about nothing, I gently told her she was in the wrong line of work, and stopped the session.

I went back to Rainbow. I explained the situation to the mamasan. I asked for my barfine back. I had no hopes it would work, but wanted to see what would happen. She told me she knew I was a regular, but that she didn't care. She told me to come back the next day, she wanted to hear her girl's story first. She claimed she didn't have the girl's phone number (whatever!).

I live close, so I did go back the next day out of curiosity. The mamasan said nothing except that I wouldn't get it back, and she walked off.

I won't be back at Rainbow 4 for a long while.

So avoid 55. And maybe avoid Rainbow 4 altogether. They are so popular now, they do not care about customers, they have enough people walking in every day. If you are a regular there, tell the mamasan about this review, maybe it could make her think twice about ripping off regulars.

GentleBoner
05-11-12, 14:15
I talked with number 55 at Rainbow 4 a few months ago, and she asked for 2500. I declined. I remember another member of this forum reporting the same.

2 days ago she was looking at me a lot so I called her over, this time she accepted 2000. I didn't have a good feeling about what was coming, but still went ahead, she is cute.

Once at the hotel it quickly turned into my worst experience in Thailand. She started to complain immediately, and honest to God I wasn't doing anything except lay there. A BJ over 2 minutes was not acceptable to her. After a few more minutes of complaining about nothing, I gently told her she was in the wrong line of work, and stopped the session.If a girl is asking for 2500, something's off with her.

There's no shortage of cute girls. Just move to the next one.

Member #4698
05-11-12, 15:19
I rarely contribute to this forum, as my knowledge of Thailand pales next to Nic and some of the other regular contributors. I live in the Philippines and only get to LOS a couple of times a year, with one of those times coming up later this week. I used to lurk on this forum prior to trips to pick up information on the latest scene. However, I'm sick of the bars, not at all into the Go Go scene, and massage parlors have nothing new to show to me. Hoping to glean some information on new places, or at least some that remained undiscovered for me, I've read back several pages prior to making the trip. Without intending to flame anyone, it doesn't seem to me that there's nearly as much information here as I remember a few years ago. Guess I'll have to launch a voyage of self-discovery. GEGE, if you are 'sick of the bars, not at all into the Go Go scene, and massage parlors' there is not much left to the BKK nightlife scene except perhaps the G-Clubs. If you have never been to any, I suggest you stop by the Maiake Club for an hour or two. I think you will find it entertaining.

I know you appreciate world class quality cuisine, so let me recommend one of my favorite restaurants in BKK – Bussaracum. It has been around a long time and is great. The lunch menu is a bargain considering the quality of the food and dinner there is a fine dining experience I know you will enjoy it.

http://www.bussaracum.com/

NB

JoeSamui
05-11-12, 15:32
Is there anything special with Napoleon Club in Soi 33.

They do a lot of advertisements and have a great Website.

Does anybody know?

Golfinho
05-11-12, 15:42
If a girl is asking for 2500, something's off with her.

There's no shortage of cute girls. Just move to the next one.There's something off with anyone who is life and death for sixteen-dollars. If there's no shortage of people like this, that's more cute ones for someone who's not going to let 500 baht stand in the way of doing what you want.

Tony Hoeprano
05-11-12, 17:33
I went back to Rainbow. I explained the situation to the mamasan. I asked for my barfine back. I had no hopes it would work, but wanted to see what would happen. She told me she knew I was a regular, but that she didn't care. She told me to come back the next day, she wanted to hear her girl's story first. She claimed she didn't have the girl's phone number (whatever!).Is that the stout lady with short hair who looks like she could play linebacker for the Chicago Bears? She's the meanest human being I've ever seen LOL

Horny Landoora
05-11-12, 17:42
I live close, so I did go back the next day out of curiosity. The mamasan said nothing except that I wouldn't get it back, and she walked off.

I won't be back at Rainbow 4 for a long while.Its sad. Although considering this is a business for them, I couldn't help but mention a joke on the situation. Grooms father in law on marriage day tells his son in law that the goods once delivered are non returnable, then the groom replies contract is void if seals broken!

Yes in your context it might not apply but when you think of point of view from Rainbow they are selling a product and they have no concern on its performance. Once it leaves their door they are least bothered. We have no choice but to live with it! Even considering the fact you wrote that people should go tell her this when they go to Rainbow still whats the use? The guys would be barfining girls anyway and business continues to be good so why would she bother?

NicFrenchy
05-11-12, 18:50
If you are a regular there, tell the mamasan about this review, maybe it could make her think twice about ripping off regulars.Are you seriously suggesting she would give a Fuck? That working girl would not even think twice about it.

Goatscrot
05-11-12, 18:51
I talked with number 55 at Rainbow 4 a few months ago, and she asked for 2500. I declined. I remember another member of this forum reporting the same.

2 days ago she was looking at me a lot so I called her over, this time she accepted 2000. I didn't have a good feeling about what was coming, but still went ahead, she is cute.

Once at the hotel it quickly turned into my worst experience in Thailand. She started to complain immediately, and honest to God I wasn't doing anything except lay there. A BJ over 2 minutes was not acceptable to her. After a few more minutes of complaining about nothing, I gently told her she was in the wrong line of work, and stopped the session.

I went back to Rainbow. I explained the situation to the mamasan. I asked for my barfine back. I had no hopes it would work, but wanted to see what would happen. She told me she knew I was a regular, but that she didn't care. She told me to come back the next day, she wanted to hear her girl's story first. She claimed she didn't have the girl's phone number (whatever!).

I live close, so I did go back the next day out of curiosity. The mamasan said nothing except that I wouldn't get it back, and she walked off.

I won't be back at Rainbow 4 for a long while.

So avoid 55. And maybe avoid Rainbow 4 altogether. They are so popular now, they do not care about customers, they have enough people walking in every day. If you are a regular there, tell the mamasan about this review, maybe it could make her think twice about ripping off regulars.I certainly hope you did not give her the 2000 baht. I would have given her 100 baht and told her to hit the door. Don't pay for poor performance. If you do the girls will continue to get away with as little as they can. I always explain to the girl that I expect her to service me like a gal does in a "sex movie" or like her boyfriend who she really loves. If the service is not up to par, I get up, put my clothes on, leave 100 baht, and I am on my way. Seems more and more girls are not providing good service.

NicFrenchy
05-11-12, 18:52
are you seriously suggesting she would give a fuck? that.

working girlwould not even think twice about it.ahahahahahaha what a crock of shit! i originally wrote wh*re but it was conveniently edited. whatever happened to freedom of speech?

Crocodilexp
05-11-12, 20:40
I talked with number 55 at Rainbow 4. this time she accepted 2000. I went back to Rainbow. I explained the situation to the mamasan. I asked for my barfine back.Did you pay the girl 2000? A proper response is to cancel the session as soon as possible and give her a token cancellation fee. 100-200 baht if you got to the room but didn't have sex, or maybe 300-500 if she gave you a *brief* BJ without finish. The token fee is not because she deserved it, but to close the transaction in her mind and prevent future trouble for non-payment.

Asking the mamasan for your barfine back is not worth the aggravation of trying. As you know, a Thai would never give you back money you paid. Moreover, even if the mamasan somehow had the good will to give you the barfine back, girl's performance is something she can't change, and she doesn't want to aggravate an employee bringing in good money in drinks and barfines (good looking girls are scarce these days in the industry, unlike in the past).

Pekkakoo
05-11-12, 20:48
Bangkok scene is not at its best at the moment and I think you need a lot of luck finding good girls. Of course that depends on what you are looking for and how much you are paying (all the women cost us money one way or another). Like the Norwegian guy writing here I have also done my DIA and Thaifriendly meeting but not with good luck. Everything has happened. Once I got a number from a sweet and pretty girl and then I called her. First she didn't realise who I was but then it became clear to her once I told I was from that dating site. Later I fould out that I had talked to her "sister" and to our meeting she brought this pretty girl of hers who didn't speak English a word. So her "sister" had only been pimping her in DIA. I guess maybe I could have taken her into my room to have sex but did not feel like it.

In DIA and Thaifriendly many girls are street girls or bar girls. I know one who I first met on the street and then a few months later she had ended up working in a gogo bar. Later I found her profile on these sites. Many DIA girls want to meet you at 1am or 2am, which probably means that they are released from their bars at that time. No good girls. I have also met some DIA girls, who work in massage parlours. One of them was quitting in a special massage place and was really good looking and nice. I could have married her but she had 1 child already and I am looking for a single unmarried girl with no children. Looks like all the good looking ones already have been married to thai men, had baby and then of course thai men have gone and these girls end up on dating sites to look for a falang to support their family.

Now you can already guess that I have been looking for a good girl, wife material. But in reality these girls don't hang around on dating sites I think. They see doing that disrespectful. The good girls can't tell their friends that they have met their husbands on the internet I think. Finding a good girl seems impossible. Or I think you need a lot of luck and more than 5 weeks holiday per year. You need to live in Thailand. Good girls dont do sex the first time and if you come to Thailand twice a year you need to wait for 6 months to have sex with her maybe on your 2nd trip. Not good because I think you can tell the first time you have sex if the relationship is going to work or not.

After all, I am in BKK a few days, what is a good massage parlour or a soapie around sukh these days? I just concentrate on having fun this time. No stress about meeting or finding good girls. I think gogos are ripoffs mostly. They concentrate on Japanese customers throwing their money away. You see them sitting on the first row putting money in the girls pants and looking at the dancers like they were drugged. Easy money and tips for girls and this raises the prices for everyone, which leads to bkk scene getting worse and worse.

NicFrenchy
05-12-12, 02:22
I think you need a lot of luck and more than 5 weeks holiday per year. You need to live in Thailand.Yes, that is very true, living here increases your chances dramatically.


Good girls dont do sex the first time and if you come to Thailand twice a year you need to wait for 6 months to have sex with her maybe on your 2nd trip. Not good because I think you can tell the first time you have sex if the relationship is going to work or not.Not true, most girls I met online (and I met a lot) had sex with me the first day / night we met. It's all in the story / technique you use.
And they are regular Thai girls with a job, not hookers


Now you can already guess that I have been looking for a good girl, wife material. But in reality these girls don't hang around on dating sites I think. They see doing that disrespectful. The good girls can't tell their friends that they have met their husbands on the internet I think. Finding a good girl seems impossible.Wrong, completely untrue. There are many very respectable ladies on Dating sites, in thai culture there is nothing disrespectful about going on a dating site or saying you met online. I have met a lot of interesting girls from every "class" from Dating sites (not Hi-so obviously) and many were looking for long term relationships, serious relationships / marriage.

Some of my ex-Staff were on dating sites, the lady was really good looking, serious, hard working and looking for real love on these sites. Girls will be girls and boys will be boys. I think this picture says it all

Golfinho
05-12-12, 02:38
ahahahahahaha what a crock of shit! i originally wrote wh*re but it was conveniently edited. whatever happened to freedom of speech?that's one word that is never let to appear here. and nothing to complain about either. consider what comes up on a google search, and we ought to be thankful for an administration here that knows what it's doing.

NicFrenchy
05-12-12, 04:10
don't let mr nic get you down pekk. if you notice nic has to use technique to get the online chicks-translatiion-he has to lie like a jackal to get them to do what he wants.

nic is a god in his own mind- he sees what others just don't see. and he will tell you you are the idiot. lol.h444, not quite, i also, like you, pay for sex when i want to do p4p, but my message was, if you're going to visit thailand for a short period of time, why try the hard and sometimes non-rewarding way of non p4p? going to a massage / bar / gogo is much easier.

according to peekakoo's description of himself, he is young, nice looking and not fat so he should not have so many problems finding a girl in any country.

now tell me, when was the last time you contributed something to isg? i mean, a real review or helped a fellow forum member?

you see, i post a lot of shit here [i admit it], i also like to push some people's buttons here or rant [i admit that too], but i also like to think that sometimes i post things that are useful. i guess it balances out.

what have you posted that was meaningful lately?

NicFrenchy
05-12-12, 04:29
I was trolling the lower Sukhumvit last night with a Friend and he wanted to play some pool.

We went to NEW WAVE on soi 7 but the place was too crowded and smokey so we left. Since we were at Soi 7, we checked out the Beergarden and it really brought a big smile on my face: It did not change one bit (customers / girls wise I mean).

One just needs to read Evel Penivel's old report to get the true flavor of what the BG7 is:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1971-2005-Bangkok-Reports&p=401692&highlight=purgatory#post401692

We moved to this place on soi 4 that had real pool tables and there were a couple hot waitresses in there. The girls were here to put the balls back on the table between games but seeing the way they were flirting, they gave the impression that they were "Available". We were not interested to know more though.

Took a cab to Ratchada area and up to my friend's favourite place: POSEIDON.

Now making a trip there just reminded me of how much I don't like soapies and fishbowls.

Going up that ramp and seeing all the girls sitting there, oblivious to what was happening outside and watching TV.

Some girl was deep into another girl's hair, watching like a hawk and hoping to see something in there. What was she looking for? White Hair or Head Lice? I am not sure I want to know the answer to that.

Girls looked really average, none above a 5 (my standards) and I think all of them could be sitting in Cupidy, would not make a difference.

My friend took this girl who looked either Bored or on Sleeping Pills and was pushing me to choose one but I declined.

Seems to me that either some places stayed the same as a couple years ago, or went backwards.

Where are all the pretty girls?

Chill Out
05-12-12, 04:41
Why would Poseidon be his favorite? I think it's awful. You should have left him and walked to Copa Cabanna next door, it's much better.

Tony Hoeprano
05-12-12, 04:57
Finding good hot girls in LOS is very similar to college football recruiting. Schools like USC, Michigan, Ohio State, Texas, and Oklahoma are going to get their blue chip recruits no matter what, every kid growing up wants to play for a powerhouse and play in the spotlight. Just like rich hansum Thai dudes can have their pick of the litter with the hottest Thai babes, because they're already so desirable they really don't have to do as much. Not saying the foreigner can't get their share of good girls, but ya going to have to think outside the box and take different angles and not be lazy. The best the falang can aspire to be is a Boise St.the annoying little school they got a good program, on the fringe of the BCS, but will never really compete with the big boys LOL.

From what I'm hearing from the Thai girls on online dating sites, many falang got to step up their game and stop being perv! Do not ask for sex chat or to see them naked on webcam . I know a few of you are guilty of this LOL. Do not show shirtless pics of you trying to show off your muscles, unlike western chicks, thai girls arent into beefcakes or rugged types.

Try to be more creative than."hello you are beautiful, my name is Ernie, nice to meet you I have picture of my cock want to see? LOL

Chill Out
05-12-12, 04:58
Is that the stout lady with short hair who looks like she could play linebacker for the Chicago Bears? She's the meanest human being I've ever seen LOL

No, long wavy hair. She doesn't look mean. And she isn't mean but confused about what her job is. She works as a hooker and doesn't understand that doing a BJ for more than 2 minutes is one of the basic requirements.

Wait, were you talking about the mamasan? Ah yes, that's not a bad description.


I certainly hope you did not give her the 2000 baht. I would have given her 100 baht and told her to hit the door.Of course not. I gave her nothing. I don't see why I should give her 100 or 500 like Crocodile suggested. I just paid 600 baths barfine for her and the session is over after 5 minutes, that's enough for me. I tip for great performance, not for awful performance.

She did not even try asking for money by the way. She knew her performance wasn't acceptable. She was just surprised to get a customer who didn't do as she wanted.


I've said it before. You are paying for a girls look at agogo bars.I disagree. I almost always have a good time with gogo girls.


Are you seriously suggesting she would give a Fuck? That working girl would not even think twice about it.I don't think a girl can keep giving a terrible performance for weeks if customers actually come back and complain about it. Eventually they'll ask her to improve or let her go.

Tony Hoeprano
05-12-12, 05:05
Why would Poseidon be his favorite? I think it's awful. You should have left him and walked to Copa Cabanna next door, it's much better.Does the cops cabana have oilie option? I generally don't like sitting in the bath tub, it makes me feel like a child and I'm waiting for the chick to bust out with a rubber ducky or toy boats LOL

Western787
05-12-12, 08:11
Bangkok scene is not at its best at the moment and I think you need a lot of luck finding good girls. Of course that depends on what you are looking for and how much you are paying (all the women cost us money one way or another). Like the Norwegian guy writing here I have also done my DIA and Thaifriendly meeting but not with good luck. Everything has happened. Once I got a number from a sweet and pretty girl and then I called her. First she didn't realise who I was but then it became clear to her once I told I was from that dating site. Later I fould out that I had talked to her "sister" and to our meeting she brought this pretty girl of hers who didn't speak English a word. So her "sister" had only been pimping her in DIA. I guess maybe I could have taken her into my room to have sex but did not feel like it.Let me get this straight, because I could have the story wrong. I believe you're saying you got a number from a "sweet and pretty girl". Then you called, and it turned out out the girl you were talking to was only "pimping" her "pretty" non english speaking sister? Then you say you could have had sex with her, but "didn't feel like it"

And your complaining? I mean if that isn't proof of the upside down reality of Bangkok. You better it enjoy it while it lasts because Thailand will eventually become completely westernized and most of the women could turn into ballbusting man hating feminists.

Unless you're saying a pretty girl was on a web site "pimping" her ugly sister?

Syzygies
05-12-12, 08:27
So avoid 55. And maybe avoid Rainbow 4 altogether. They are so popular now, they do not care about customers, they have enough people walking in every day. If you are a regular there, tell the mamasan about this review, maybe it could make her think twice about ripping off regulars.Yes I do recall 55 looked hot. I will skip her, Thanks for the advice. However its a little unfair to paint every girl with the same brush. I have had a couple of fun girls from Rainbow 4. Maybe only a 50/50 success / disappointment rate. I do admit its a risky place for finding a really fun girl.

Meanwile I do know some very reliable fun regular girls from other venues, who even are into really enjoying their work. So I really don't need Rainbow 4.

I have always maintained Copa Cabana is a better bet than Poseidon too, and its so close. At times Copa has a quite good lineup, but still without a lot of stunners. Don't recall any bad sessions there though. Had two different girls with really big naturals that both performed quite well. No at Copa has yet reached my favourites list though. So I rate Copa as a good reliable place, without being outstanding. Poseidon I rate as rather mediocre.

NicFrenchy
05-12-12, 09:00
Of course not. I gave her nothing. I don't see why I should give her 100 or 500 like Crocodile suggested. I just paid 600 baths barfine for her and the session is over after 5 minutes, that's enough for me. I tip for great performance, not for awful performance.Amen to that.

Chill Out
05-12-12, 09:15
Yes I do recall 55 looked hot. I will skip her, Thanks for the advice. However its a little unfair to paint every girl with the same brush. I have had a couple of fun girls from Rainbow 4.No I agree. I'll avoid Rainbow because of the management's attitude, not because of that one girl. It's my first problem ever in Rainbow so I can't say it's a bad place. But in the last few months anyway I've started to go to other places where management takes better care and the girls are happy to go for 1500 ST.

What would you rate outstanding in Bangkok?

GentleBoner
05-12-12, 10:02
There's something off with anyone who is life and death for sixteen-dollars. If there's no shortage of people like this, that's more cute ones for someone who's not going to let 500 baht stand in the way of doing what you want.Do you pay 2500ST frequently in gogo bars?

It's not the money. It's the attitude.

Chill Out
05-12-12, 14:39
One just needs to read Evel Penivel's old report to get the true flavor of what the BG7 is:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1971-2005-Bangkok-Reports&p=401692&highlight=purgatory#post401692By the way that was such a great report you reposted Frenchy. Too bad Penivel doesn't post much anymore.

Joe Looking
05-12-12, 14:57
Now you can already guess that I have been looking for a good girl, wife material. But in reality these girls don't hang around on dating sites I think. They see doing that disrespectful. The good girls can't tell their friends that they have met their husbands on the internet I think. Finding a good girl seems impossible. Or I think you need a lot of luck and more than 5 weeks holiday per year. You need to live in Thailand. Good girls dont do sex the first time and if you come to Thailand twice a year you need to wait for 6 months to have sex with her maybe on your 2nd trip. Not good because I think you can tell the first time you have sex if the relationship is going to work or not.You should read some of the articles on this site: http://livingthai.org The guy gives advice on meeting and dating all types of Thai women. His biggest piece of advice regarding the dating sites seems to be sticking to the ones that are in Thai and may require a fee.

I think that you and I may differ strongly on what a good girl is, I see nothing wrong with sex on the first date. I really think that to find your good girl you may need to go far away from cities and head towards more remote, foreigner free areas.

I also imagine that living in Thailand would help if you want to regularly date women, but I constantly read tales of men who meet women on dating sites and only see them for the week or two they are around. The biggest key seems to be patience. I met a guy in Chiang Mai who had flown up from BKK to see a woman he met on a dating site. He confessed that he spends a lot of time on the site but can count on both hands the number of women he has met in real life from the site.

NicFrenchy
05-12-12, 15:28
You should read some of the articles on this site:

http://livingthai.org

The guy gives advice on meeting and dating all types of Thai women. His biggest piece of advice regarding the dating sites seems to be sticking to the ones that are in Thai and may require a fee.Meh, yeah I had a lot of pussy from Free dating sites and did not have that many problems. However, I am not trying to get dates with 18 year old Kids, I prefer 25 as my minimum, I like a girl that knows what to do when she sees a cock.

Goatscrot
05-12-12, 15:32
Meh, yeah I had a lot of pussy from Free dating sites and did not have that many problems. However, I am not trying to get dates with 18 year old Kids, I prefer 25 as my minimum, I like a girl that knows what to do when she sees a cock.Ain't that the truth. I prefer gals in their late 20s. Much more fun.

Goatscrot
05-12-12, 15:35
Finding good hot girls in LOS is very similar to college football recruiting. Schools like USC, Michigan, Ohio State, Texas, and Oklahoma are going to get their blue chip recruits no matter what, every kid growing up wants to play for a powerhouse and play in the spotlight. Just like rich hansum Thai dudes can have their pick of the litter with the hottest Thai babes, because they're already so desirable they really don't have to do as much. Not saying the foreigner can't get their share of good girls, but ya going to have to think outside the box and take different angles and not be lazy. The best the falang can aspire to be is a Boise St. The annoying little school they got a good program, on the fringe of the BCS, but will never really compete with the big boys LOL.

From what I'm hearing from the Thai girls on online dating sites, many falang got to step up their game and stop being perv! Do not ask for sex chat or to see them naked on webcam. I know a few of you are guilty of this LOL. Do not show shirtless pics of you trying to show off your muscles, unlike western chicks, thai girls arent into beefcakes or rugged types.

Try to be more creative than."hello you are beautiful, my name is Ernie, nice to meet you I have picture of my cock want to see? LOLThe last thing I want to do is put effort into wooing and romancing gals. I think many of us came over here to escape that!

Oidar
05-12-12, 19:41
There are just as many married Thai woman on the dating sites, as single girls.

The sucessful Thai man in his 30's or 40's goes for the hot piece of ass. A lazy princess, probably from upper middle class Thai parents. Perhaps, she is college educated but has never worked. Her day is filled with eating, shopping and wasting time. Fast forward a few years, by this time he has gone on to a keeping wife (gik) or whatever. However, this is Thailand. She does not divorce him, she gets even.

Her parents have money, her husband gives her money. She does not need money. She wants a fling with a falang. In time she may tell this falang the truth, maybe he will be ok with the situation or maybe they will both move on.

Now if you are living in a one room shithole on lower Sukhumvit, you don't have much chance of picking up one of these woman. However, if you have a pretty nice place these dating sites are gold mines. If you don't have a sofa, in a different room from your bed, the game is over.

John Dust
05-12-12, 21:21
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Well, the drug should be still available in BKK. I recently (2 or 3 months ago) bought some Apcalis at a drugstore in Sukhumvit.

If you know the intersection Sukhumvit / soi 4 Nana you remember a bezin station at the corner. Walking to JW Marriott Hotel you at first see a money changer, then a small drugstore will follow. Proceed to the next entrance of a larger (!) Drugstore. There you will find anything you may want.

Enjoy and make the girls happy.

FVThanks to all who replied. Since it is available, I'll try said drugstores and in and around Nana. Freebiefan was correct. Some of us have medical issues.

Nick Depalma
05-12-12, 21:47
Yes I do recall 55 looked hot. I will skip her, Thanks for the advice. However its a little unfair to paint every girl with the same brush. I have had a couple of fun girls from Rainbow 4. Maybe only a 50/50 success / disappointment rate. I do admit its a risky place for finding a really fun girl.

Meanwile I do know some very reliable fun regular girls from other venues, who even are into really enjoying their work. So I really don't need Rainbow 4.

I have always maintained Copa Cabana is a better bet than Poseidon too, and its so close. At times Copa has a quite good lineup, but still without a lot of stunners. Don't recall any bad sessions there though. Had two different girls with really big naturals that both performed quite well. No at Copa has yet reached my favourites list though. So I rate Copa as a good reliable place, without being outstanding. Poseidon I rate as rather mediocre.Is there no hands down winner, place with the stunners?

Evil Penivel
05-13-12, 01:26
One just needs to read Evel Penivel's old report to get the true flavor of what the BG7 is:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1971-2005-Bangkok-Reports&p=401692&highlight=purgatory#post401692
By the way that was such a great report you reposted Frenchy. Too bad Penivel doesn't post much anymore.Thank you for the kind words, gentlemen. I hadn't thought about that report on the old Biergarten for a long time. It's interesting that BG7 hasn't changed much through the years. It's been around since the 1980s, maybe even earlier than that. When the founder passed away, his family tried to "reform" BG7 for a short while, but I guess they have given up on that idea.

Evil

GentleBoner
05-13-12, 02:38
There are just as many married Thai woman on the dating sites, as single girls.

The sucessful Thai man in his 30's or 40's goes for the hot piece of ass. A lazy princess, probably from upper middle class Thai parents. Perhaps, she is college educated but has never worked. Her day is filled with eating, shopping and wasting time. Fast forward a few years, by this time he has gone on to a keeping wife (gik) or whatever. However, this is Thailand. She does not divorce him, she gets even.

Her parents have money, her husband gives her money. She does not need money. She wants a fling with a falang. In time she may tell this falang the truth, maybe he will be ok with the situation or maybe they will both move on.

Now if you are living in a one room shithole on lower Sukhumvit, you don't have much chance of picking up one of these woman. However, if you have a pretty nice place these dating sites are gold mines. If you don't have a sofa, in a different room from your bed, the game is over.At what point in your online flirtations with women does the subject of the location of your sofa usually come up?

NicFrenchy
05-13-12, 02:56
Since we are on the topic of chatting up women for sex, I got these from girls last night. Some fun times and some very daring girls.

I got one girl to invite me to her place within 4 minutes of camming.

You got to love Thailand

Bowerboy
05-13-12, 04:10
I think the TRUE key to success in online dating is to be patient (obviously that only really works if you live here).

A German guy I know taught me this and I consider him to be the supreme master of online dating.

It is definitely true that you can laid on the first date but if you play the long game you will, within about 4 to 6 weeks become absolutely inundated with girls, literally one every day is very achievable.

His advice to me was to never aim for sex on the first date and to completely delete that thought from your mind. His approach was to build a massive portfolio of women that had become curious about him and that he would aim to sleep with on the second date after some sms back and forth after first meeting.

This guy had spreadsheets to keep track. He even had predesignated meeting points where he could view the meeting point from a location where he couldn't be seen and if the girl didn't look like her pictures he would just leave.

Make sure you have a meeting place close to where you work or live and don't go to the meeting point until they turn up because they will ALWAYS be late and you will waste hours of your life that way. Make them wait instead.

Never meet for Dinner or Lunch as it is too big of a commitment from both sides and expenses will soon add up. Starbucks gets expensive if you are meeting 2 or 3 girls per day so aim for those really nice Thai style coffee shops that most areas have.

Just some thoughts in case you are thinking about getting into the online dating scene.

I met my wife online and can confirm that it definitely does not hold any stigma at all in Thailand or Asia in general. She is a lovely girl, works in finance and her family do ok for themselves and there are no "support" requests for her or her family and never will be. For all intents and purposes it is just a completely normal relationship. There are PLENTY of nice girls online that make good marriage material.

I will say though that it helps if you have a lot of experience in Thailand and know the signs to look for in terms of not so good marriage material vs marriage material.

Hope this helps a bit

Nick Depalma
05-13-12, 05:49
Are G-Clubs like Forte, Pent, Sherbet worth the while for mongering action, or is it a keep-you-company kinda place?

Looks fun though

PinkPearl
05-13-12, 07:24
At what point in your online flirtations with women does the subject of the location of your sofa usually come up?LOL.

I think it must be way easier to pick up civilian (non P4P) ladies in LOS than places like the USA & UK.

Even without knowing the lingo.

Way too much work, though, unless the hunt turns you on, or your ego is so fragile as to need constant boosting.

After all, time is money.

And chatting with a female, third world or not, is my idea of misery. Instead give me a great action or comedy flick any day, or even something intelligent to read.

NicFrenchy
05-13-12, 08:33
His advice to me was to never aim for sex on the first date and to completely delete that thought from your mind. His approach was to build a massive portfolio of women that had become curious about him and that he would aim to sleep with on the second date after some sms back and forth after first meeting.

This guy had spreadsheets to keep track. He even had predesignated meeting points where he could view the meeting point from a location where he couldn't be seen and if the girl didn't look like her pictures he would just leave.Honestly? If I were to write a book on online dating, what you quoted above from your friend would be on my list of things Not to do.

Huge portfolio? Spreadsheet? Rely on Pictures and hide like a 15 year old to see who the girl is? Not for me. That is a total waste of time.

You need to research properly, talk only with the girls YOU are interested in, Always CAM before any meeting to avoid surprises and always bring the conversation to Naughty stuff (yes, there is a way to bring it up as not to offend the lady). With all that, you get laid on the first date. Hell, I never meet a girl in a public place, she comes to my room on the first date.

I guess different people have different ways.

Spreadsheets. Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha now I have heard it all

Chill Out
05-13-12, 08:40
Great advice from Frenchy.


Always CAM before any meeting to avoid surprisesThis is important, pics lie but cams don't. I would even say, cam as quickly as you can before you invest time in chatting.

Bowerboy
05-13-12, 09:16
Honestly? If I were to write a book on online dating, what you quoted above from your friend would be on my list of things Not to do.

Huge portfolio? Spreadsheet? Rely on Pictures and hide like a 15 year old to see who the girl is? Not for me. That is a total waste of time.

You need to research properly, talk only with the girls YOU are interested in, Always CAM before any meeting to avoid surprises and always bring the conversation to Naughty stuff (yes, there is a way to bring it up as not to offend the lady). With all that, you get laid on the first date. Hell, I never meet a girl in a public place, she comes to my room on the first date.

I guess different people have different ways.

Spreadsheets. Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha now I have heard it allWrong. Totally wrong.

The amount of time needed to cam is extremely time consuming.

If you knew anything at all you would know that THE prime time for online dating is afternoon's between 3pm and 5pm when women are bored at work and they are not going to Cam at work.

Ignore the "work" crowd and you are missing out on about 50% to 60% of girls online...

Nic I think you are one of those fools that have the worst of all worlds. Spending your time chasing hookers online!